Talk Elections

Dwight Eisenhower [R-PA] (1953-1955)
William F. Knowland [R-CA] (1955-1957)
Albert Gore, Sr. [D-TN] (1957-1965)
Barry Goldwater [R-AZ] (1965-1973)
Robert G. Baker [D-SC] (1973-1977)
Alan Greenspan [R-NY] (1977-1985)
John Seymour [R-CA] (1985-1989)
James Blanchard [D-MI] (1989-1995)
Chris Matthews [D-PA] (1995-1997)
Lynn “Longhorn Nolan” Ryan [R-TX] (1997-2005)
John Spencer [D-NJ] (2005-2006)
Clarence W. Nelson [D-FL] (2006-date)

This is for a TL I've been banding around in my head.  What do y'all think?

Okay, I'll bite.  Who is John Spencer?

Nolan Ryan - sweet!

interesting. Is that three presidential deaths I see?

Nolan Ryan would be awesome

Next week I'm hoping to get some stuff out on this.

Alan Greenspan 1976-1985... does this Alan Greenspan's policies resemble more him in the 80s-90s ('Federal Reserve Dude' Greenspan) or him in the 60s ('Ayn Rand Groupie' Greenspan)? The latter would be fun....

35th: John F. Kennedy (1961-1963)
36th: Lyndon Johnson (1963-1969)
37th: Richard Nixon (1969-1977)
38th: Ronald Reagan (1977-1985)
39th: Bob Dole (1985-1993)
40th: Bill Clinton: (1993-2001)
41st: John McCain (2001-2009)

Just for the hell of it...no reason.

I'm leaning toward the latter, actually...

That seems pretty reasonable for a sans Watergate scenario.

You want Leo McGarry for president? How's that?

Here is a list of presidents which will make your head spin:

20. Winfield S. Hancock/William English, Democrat (1881-1889)
21. Levi Morton/Garret Hobart, Republican (1889-1897)
22. Garret Hobart/Robert Lincoln, Republican (1897-1898)
23. Robert Lincoln/John Hay, Republican (1898-1905)
24. Arthur MacArthur/Alton Parker, Democrat (1905-1912)
25. Alton Parker/Oswald West, Democrat (1912-1917)
26. Charles Hughes/Charles Hughes, Irvine Lenroot, Republican (1917-1929)
27. Irvine Lenroot/Charles Curtis, Republican (1929-1933)
28. John N. Garner/James Farley, Democrat (1933-1941)
29. James Farley/Cordell Hull, Democrat (1941-1949)
30. Thomas Dewey/John Bricker, Thurston Morton, Republican (1949-1965)
31. Pat Brown/Albert Gore, Democrat (1965-1973)
32. Albert Gore/Richard Hughes, Democrat (1973-1977)
33. Howard Baker/Phil Crane, Pete duPont (1977-1985)
24. Pete duPont/Robert Ray, Republican (1985-1993)
25. Bob Graham/Al Gore (1993-2001)
26. Tommy Thompson/Jack Kemp (2001-2005)
27. Wesley Clark/Ray Mabus (2005-Present)

How would a list of such thoroughly unremarkable men affect the presidency and the nation? Without either Roosevelt, Truman, Kennedy, Nixon, Reagan, or either Bush, would the nation stay the same?

Here's a list of Presidents and Vice Presidents I'm using for my Quentin Roosevelt Survives WWI series. To view Chapter One of the series go to this website: Quentin Roosevelt Survives WWI (http://www.othertimelines.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8361)

29. Herbert Hoover/Irvine Lenroot (R) 1921-1929
30. Warren Harding/William Borah (R) 1929-1933
31. Franklin D. Roosevelt (D)/John Nance Garner (1933-1937)/Cordell Hull (1937-1939) 1933-1939
32. Cordell Hull/Millard Tydings (D) 1939-1945
33. Omar Bradley/Styles Bridges (1945-1949)/Quentin Roosevelt (1949-1953) (R) 1945-1953
34. Quentin Roosevelt/Richard Nixon (R) 1953-1961
35. Richard Nixon/Thurston B. Morton (R) 1961-1965
36. John F. Kennedy/Terry Sanford (1965-1969)/Hubert Humphrey (1969-1970) (D) 1965-1970
37. Hubert Humphrey/Abraham Ribicoff (D) 1970-1973
38. Ronald Reagan/Spiro Agnew (R) 1973-1974
39. Gerald R. Ford/George H.W. Bush (R) 1974-1977*
40. Robert F. Kennedy/Ruben Askew (D) 1977-1985
41. Howard Baker/Jack Kemp (R) 1985-1993
42. Bill Clinton/Al Gore (D) 1993-2001
43. Al Gore/Bob Graham (D) 2001-2005
44. John McCain/Fred Thompson (R) 2005-present day

*The asterix under Gerald Ford indicates that Gerald Ford assumed the Presidency after V.P. Agnew resigned and President Reagan had a heart attack in the same week. Speaker of the House, Ford became 39th President of the United States.

I commend the Pete duPont Party for its sudden rise to national prominence. :)

Just for fun...

1961 - 1969  John F. Kennedy (DEM)
1969 - 1977  Nelson Rockefeller (REP)
1977 - 1981  Henry M. Jackson (DEM)
1981 - 1989  John Anderson (REP)
1989 - 1997  Lloyd Bentsen (DEM)
1997 - 2001  Al Gore (REP)
2001 - 2005  John McCain (DEM)
2005 -           John Edwards (REP)

Yes, you read right, Gore REP, McCain DEM and Edwards REP. A Rockefeller Presidency results in the socially liberal wing of the Republican Party (they did exist then) taking over, meaning the Reagan revolution never happened, with Anderson's Presidency being a continuation of that trend; meanwhile, Jackson's Presidency results in the conservatives running in droves to the Democrats, the result being a vastly changed political landscape by the time we get to the 90s. Both parties would probably be more moderately-minded with rather little between them, comparable to, say, a European parliamentary democracy like Germany.

One that I thought up of right now....

1933 - 1939 Franklin D. Roosevelt (DEM)
1939 - 1945 John Nance Garner (DEM)
1945 - 1949 Arthur Vandenberg (REP)
1949 - 1955 Dwight Eisenhower (DEM)
1955 - 1957 Alben W. Barkley (DEM)
1957 - 1965 Thomas Dewey (REP)
1965 - 1973 John F. Kennedy (DEM)
1973 - 1978 Richard Nixon (REP)
1978 - 1981 John Connally (REP)
1981 - 1985 Mo Udall (DEM)
1985 - 1993 Howard Baker (REP)
1993 - 2001 Bill Bradley (DEM)
2001 - 2005 Jeb Bush (REP)
2005 -          Bill Richardson (DEM)             

Bump

I started working on a time line awhile ago that following these Presidents but I ended up abandoning it.

1974 - 1977 President Gerald Ford/Vice President Nelson Rockefeller
1977 - 1981 President Jimmy Carter/Vice President Walter Mondale
1981 - 1981 President Ronald Reagan*/Vice President Gerald Ford
1981 - 1985 President Gerald Ford/Vice President Howard Baker
1985 - 1993 President Howard Baker/Vice President George Bush
1993 - 2001 President Al Gore/Vice President Dick Gephardt
2001 - 2005 President Dick Gephardt/Vice President Bill Bradley
2005 - ? ? ?  President John McCain/Vice President Tom Ridge

*Assassinated

Here's one:

29th: Al Smith (Democratic - New York): 1929-1933
30th: Robert M. La Follette, Jr. (Republican - Wisconsin): 1933-1941
31st: Morgan Larson (Republican - New Jersey): 1941-1949
32nd: Harley Kilgore (Democratic - West Virginia): 1949-1953
33rd: George Aiken (Republican - Vermont): 1953-1961
34th: Frank Clement (Democratic - Tennessee): 1961-1969
35th: Hubert Humphrey (Republican - Minnesota): 1969-1977
36th: Nelson Rockefeller (Republican - New York): 1977-1982
37th: Howard Baker (Republican - Tennessee): 1982-1989
38th: Dale Bumpers (Democratic - Arkansas): 1989-1997
39th: Jim Sasser (Democratic - Tennessee): 1997-2001
40th: John McCain (Republican - Arizona): 2001-2009

37th: President Richard Nixon/Vice President Spiro Agnew - 1969-1973
                                               /Vice President George H.W. Bush - 1973-1974
38th: President George H.W. Bush/Vice President Gerald Ford - 1974-1977
39th: President James Earl Carter/Vice President Walter Mondale - 1977-1981
40th: President Ronald Reagan/Vice President Howard Baker - 1981-1989
41st: President Howard Baker/Vice President Jack Kemp - 1989-1997
42nd: President Albert Gore, Jr./Vice President John Kerry - 1997-2005
43rd: President John Ellis Bush/Vice President Rudolph Giuliani - 2005-Present

28. Theodore Roosevelt 1913-1919
29. Gifford Pinchot 1919-1921
30. James M. Cox 1921-1929
31. Al Smith 1929-1937
32. John W. Bricker 1937-1941
33. Huey Long 1941-1953
34. Dwight D. Eisenhower 1953-1961
35. Adlai Stevenson 1961-1962
36. Henry Jackson 1962-1965
37. Henry C. Lodge 1965-1969
38. Robert F. Kennedy 1969-1977
39. Henry Jackson 1977-1981
40. Ronald Reagan 1981-1989
41. George H.W. Bush 1989-1997
42. Robert Dole 1997-2001
43. Paul Wellstone 2001-2009

I call Mine, the flourishing of Liberalism, and Reagan is is too a liberal in this one. But a arch-conservative on economics.

I love this

25th: William Jennings Bryan (Democrat-Nebraska) 1897-1905
26th: Joseph Cannon (Republican-Illinois) 1905-1913
27th: Charles Hughes (Republican- New York) 1913-1921
28th: James Cox (Democrat-Ohio) 1921-1929
29th: Andrew Mellon (Republican-Pennsylvania) 1929-1933
30th: Cordell Hull (Democrat-Tennessee) 1933-1941
31st: Arthur Vandenberg  (Republican-Michigan) 1941-1949
32nd: Robert Taft (Republican-Ohio) 1949-1953
33rd: Estes Kefauver (Democrat-Tennessee) 1953-1961
34th: Henry Cabot Lodge (Republican-Massachusetts) 1961-1969
35th:Albert Rosellini (Democrat-Washington) 1969-1973
36th: Nelson Rockefeller (Republican-New York) 1973-1979
37th: John Anderson (Republican-Illinois) 1979-1985
38th: Gary Hart (Democrat-Colorado) 1985-1989
39th: Bob Dole (Republican-Kansas) 1989-1997
40th: Douglas Wilder (Democrat-Virginia) 1997-2005
41st: Jeb Bush (Republican-Florida) 2005-2009
42nd: Maria Cantwell (Democrat-Washington) 2009-???

Liberal hack list:

1974-1981: Gerald Ford (R)
1981-1989: Ted Kennedy (D)
1989-1993: Bob Dole (R)
1993-2001: Bill Clinton (D)
2001-2005: Al Gore (D)
2005-2009: John McCain (R)
2009- : Barack Obama (D)


Conservative hack list:

1974-1977: Gerald Ford (R)
1977-1985: Ronald Reagan (R)
1985-1989: Richard Schweiker (R)
1989-1993: Gary Hart (D)
1993-2001: Bob Dole (R)
2001-2009: Joe Lieberman (D)
2009- : John McCain (R)

Actors as presidents!

1961-1969: John Wayne (R)
1969-1977: Henry Fonda (D)
1977-1981: Ronald Reagan (R)
1981-1989: Robert Redford (D)
1989-1993: Dustin Hoffman (D)
1993-2001: James Woods (R)
2001-2009: Martin Sheen (D)
2009- : Ron Silver (R)


Also, John McCain is playing a (Democratic) president on "24" in this alternate timeline.

Ugh. Kill me, please.

This is if Huey Long was not assassinated and fielded a candidate (not him) in 1936:

1933-1937: Franklin Roosevelt/John Nance Garner
1937-1941: Alf Landon/William Knox
1941-1949: Huey Long/Joe Kennedy
1949-1953: Robert Taft/Earl Warren
1953-1961: Estes Kafuavner/Hubert Humphrey
1961-1965: Hubert Humphrey/Scoop Jackson
1965-1973: Nelson Rockefeller/Henry Cabot Lodge
1973-1981: Ronald Reagan/George Wallace
1981-1985: John Connally/Terry Sanford
1985-1993: John Anderson/George Bush
1993-2001: Tom Harkin/Bill Clinton
2001-2005: William Weld/Arlen Specter
2005-Present: John Edwards/Ted Strickland

(D) Jimmy Carter (1977-1981)
(R) Ronald Reagan (1981-1989)
(R) George Bush (1989-1993)
(D) Bill Clinton (1993-1997)
(R) Clint Eastwood (1997-2005)
(R) John McCain (2005-2009)
(D) Barack Obama (2009-)

Clint Eastwood was Mayor of Carmel, California from 1986 to 1988. Had he run for Governor of California in 1990, he would have won and would have been set up perfectly to run, at the age of 66, for President in 1996.

Hubert Humphrey (1969-1977)
Ronald Reagan (1977-1985)
Walter Mondale (1985-1993)
Robert Dole (1993-2001)
Albert Gore (2001-2009)
John McCain (2009-  )

Fun thing about the Dream Ticket / Reagan assassinated scenario that people often forget is that Ford, having never been elected President in his own right, would still be eligible to run for re-election in 1984.

43. John McCain 2001-2009
44. George W. Bush 2009-2013
45. Harold Ford 2013-2021
46. Mark Warner 2021-2029

I started this, but decided not to continue.

35th: John F. Kennedy (1961-1969)
36th: Lyndon B. Johnson (1969-1972, dies of heart attack)
37th: Henry "Scoop" Jackson (1972-1977)
38th: Ronald Reagan (1977-1985)
39th: Robert F. Kennedy (1985-1993)
40th: Lamar Alexander (1993-1997)
41st: Dianne Feinstein (1997-2005)
42nd: John McCain (2005-2009)
43rd: Bill Clinton (2009-present)

This is "what if Nixon beat Kennedy in 1960". 

35. President Richard Nixon - 1961 - 1963
*Nixon assassinated by a crazy Lee Harvey Oswald
36. President Henry Cabot Lodge Jr - 1963 - 1969
37. President John Kennedy - 1969 - 1977
38. President Ronald Reagan - 1977 - 1985
39. President Robert Kennedy - 1985 - 1993
40. President Lloyd Bentsen - 1993 - 2001
41. President John McCain - 2001 - 2005
42. President Bill Clinton - 2005 - 2013

In my timeline he declined to run.

Who is Clinton's Vice President?

The VP pairings I envisioned are

*Richard Nixon/Henry Cabot Lodge Jr
*Henry Cabot Lodge Jr/Everett Dirksen
*John Kennedy/John Connally
*Ronald Reagan/Richard Schweiker
*Robert Kennedy/Lloyd Bentsen
*Lloyd Bentsen/Bill Bradley
*John McCain/Fred Thompson
*Bill Clinton/Max Cleland

In 1933, the 20th amendment is ratified which stipulates that the President shall be elected every 2 years.

1933-1945 Roosevelt
1945-1947 Truman
1947-1953 Dewey
1953-1959 Eisenhower
1959- Nov 1963 Kennedy
Nov 1963- 1969 Johnson
1969-1974 Nixon
1974-1975 Ford
1975-1981 McGovern
1981-1989 Reagan
1989-1993 Bush
1993-1995 Bill Clinton
1995-1999 Gingrich
1999-2001 Gore
2001-2007 Bush
2007-present Hillary Clinton

Point of Divergence: Senator George McGovern of South Dakota defeats President Richard Nixon.

37th: Richard M. Nixon (Republican - California): 1969-1973
38th: George S. McGovern (Democratic - South Dakota): 1973-1977
39th: Ronald Reagan (Republican - California): 1977-1981
40th: Henry M. Jackson (Democratic - Washington): 1981-1983
41st: Lloyd Bentsen (Democratic - Texas): 1983-1989
42nd: Jack Kemp (Republican - New York): 1989-1997
43rd: William J. Clinton (Democratic - Arkansas): 1997-2005
44th: Evan Bayh (Democratic - Indiana): 2005-2009
45th: George F. Allen (Republican - Virginia): 2009-Present Day
 

not bad. I like the Kemp part.

1953-57 Eisenhower. CJ Vinson lives
1957-61 Warren
61-69 JFK/LBJ
69-73 Albert Gore Sr.

1973-1979 Richard Nixon (1)
1979-1981 Charles Percy (2)
1981-1989 Robert F. Kennedy
1989-1993 Bill Clinton (3)
1993-2001 John Warner
2001-2009 John Kerry (4)
2009-present Rudy Giuliani

(1) died from complications of phlebitis and stress caused by backlash in admitting Shah of Iran into the US for medical reasons and subsequent hostage crisis at the US Embassy in Tehran.

(2) VP under Nixon. Selected Bob Dole as Vice President. Criticized for his pro-Arab foreign policies and Marine helicopter crash in the Iranian desert.

(3) Ran for President when Vice President Jimmy Carter decided not to run. Clinton picked John Kerry as his running mate. Extramarital scandals and use of White House bedrooms by political donors led to his re-election defeat.

(4) Defeated Vice President John McCain in 2000. Launched War on Terrorism after 9/11/01. Defeated Taliban and al-Qaeda in Afghanistan and captured Osama bin Laden who was tried in the US personally by Attorney General Bill Weld. Bin Laden was executed in 2003. Secretary of Defense Sam Nunn advised Kerry against starting war with Iraq but approved gun running operations by CIA that resulted in Saddam's overthrow in 2004 and declaration of Kurdish Republic. Recession of late 2008 hurt campaign of Democratic nominee and former Secretary of State Bill Richardson.

Who was Kerry's VP?

Kerry's Vice President was Albert Gore Jr. Gore was elected US Senator from Tennessee in 1984 and serve there until he resigned in 2001 to assume the Vice Presidency.

Gore had previously run for President in 1988 and 2000. In his third try for the White House in 2008, he was the frontrunner until the Iowa caucuses that Bill Richardson won by about 250 votes over Gore.

From there, Gore's campaign went downhill. Richardson would win the New Hampshire primary. But on Super Tuesday, Gore was only able to win the states of Florida, Kentucky and Tennessee. Richardson won the remaining states and Gore dropped out at the end of March. Richardson selected Governor Kathleen Kennedy Townsend of Maryland as his running mate. She became the first woman nominated for Vice President on a major ticket.

Rudy Giuliani selected Senator Condoleeza Rice of California (former Secretary of State in the John Warner administration) as his running mate. His choice helped Giuliani win over 30% of the African-American vote and split the female vote with Richardson.

Interesting, and richly detailed, backstory... thanks.

If you'll indulge me... I'm assuming Rudy was Mayor of NYC during 9/11, and his path in this TL was similar to his path IRL post-9/11. But, would he still be seen as having the "9/11 tourettes", since he didn't have a President Bush or War on Terror to prop up for the party?

31st (R) Herbert Hoover (1929-1933)
32nd (D) Franklin Roosevelt (1933-1945)
33rd (D) Harry Truman (1945-1949)
34th (R) Thomas Dewey (1949-1953)
35th (D) Harry Truman (1953-1969)
36th (R) George Romney (1969-1977)
37th (D) John Kennedy (1977-1981)
38th (R) George Bush (1981-1989)
39th (R) Howard Baker (1989-1997)
40th (D) Evan Bayh (1997-2005)
41st (R) Mitt Romney (2005-2009)
42nd (D) Joe Biden (2009-)

Truman loses to Dewey in 1948, but Dewey's unpopularity in 1952 makes him vulnurable in a re-match with Truman. Truman wins, and with the constitution amended during his Presidency, he is able to run in 1952, 1956, 1960 and 1964...serving through the majority of the 50s and 60s.

Rudy was Mayor of NYC during 9/11. After completing his term as mayor, he capitalized on his popularity by running for Governor of New York in 2002 (George Pataki was "persuaded" to retire). He was able to push through a large income tax cut and a stimulus package to rebuild much of NYC's economy that was affected by 9/11. After the state Supreme Court declared New York's death penalty law unconstitutional, Giuliani got a stronger death penalty law passed that would withstand constitutional scrutiny.

Giuliani was so popular going into 2006 that he was reelected in a landslide with 68% of the vote, a record for a New York Gubernatorial race. His coattails also helped Republicans win the two other statewide offices. Comptroller Alan Hevesi was defeated for re-election by State Senator Serphin Maltese when it was discovered that Hevesi used taxpayer money for a chauffeur to drive his wife to the doctor and to go shopping. Also, Elliot Spitzer's involvement with prostitutes was revealed by the US Attorney's office and it cost him his job as Attorney General. Spitzer resigned in disgrace and former state Assembly Minority Leader John Faso was elected Attorney General.

With Giuliani's ascension to the Presidency, he was succeeded as Governor by Susan Molinari.

So he was the obvious establishment candidate... his "Big State Plan" didn't fall to pieces before Florida... who else ran in the primary?

Sorry to be asking all of these question, but I'm really enjoying this timeline.

Please bear in mind that this Republican party remained a moderately conservative party and Ronald Reagan never became President. Also, the South is still Democrat but conservative.

Rudy Giuliani topped a GOP primary field that included Mitt Romney, Fred Thompson, Bob Ehrlich (he was reelected Governor of Maryland ITTL 2006), Ron Paul (very libertarian), and Frank Keating (Governor of Oklahoma from 1995-2003, same as OTL, and elected to US Senate when David Boren retired).

In the Iowa primary, Giuliani finished in first place with 30% of the vote. Keating finished in second with 29% of the vote. Romney, favored to easily win the neighboring state of New Hampshire, did win the state but by only 5 percent ahead of Giuliani. Keating finished third. The tiny town of Dixville Notch was the first to vote. After all 34 residents voted at midnight, the votes were counted and Ron Paul finished first by 3 votes ahead of Giuliani. Romney did not get a single vote in Dixville Notch.

Keating finally won a primary with his victory in South Carolina, a 10 pont margin of victory over Giuliani. Thompson finished third, Romney finished fourth. Ehrlich dropped out and endorsed Giuliani.

On Super Tuesday, Giuliani won New York with 80 percent of the vote and Florida with 50 percent of the vote. Keating finished second in Florida and won his home state of Oklahoma, Texas, Arkansas, and Tennessee. Giuliani won New Jersey, Connecticut, Vermont, Georgia (thanks to Newt Gingrich's endorsement), North Carolina (endorsed by Senator Elizabeth Dole and Rep. Sue Myrick) and Virginia. Romney won the states of Massachusetts, Rhode Island, and Utah.

Nevertheless, Giuliani became the frontrunner after Super Tuesday. Romney ran out of money and dropped out.

Keating was able to win primaries in Kentucky, West Virginia and Kansas. Giuliani won the rest and clinched the Republican nomination at the end of April.

how awesome wuld that be.

Here is my list based on the POD that Fromme's assasination attempt on Gerald Ford is successful.

38th: Gerald Ford (R-MI), August 9th 1974-September 5th 1975
39th: Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY), September 5th 1975-January 26th, 1979*
40th: John Connally (R-TX), January 26th, 1979- January 20th, 1981
41st: John Glenn (D-OH), January 20th, 1981-January 20th,1989
42nd: Jack Kemp (R-NY), January 20th, 1989-January 20th,1996
43rd: Ann Richards (D-TX), January 20th 1996-January 20th, 2005*
44th: Bill Bradley (D-NJ), January 20th 2005-January 20th 2009
45th: Mike Huckabee (R-AR), January 20th 2009-

Notes: Rocky dies on time as per OTL, after beating Carter in the 1976 General Election. By 1996 Governor Ann Richards of TX narrowly beats out VA Governor Douglas Wilder for the nomination to win the Presidency...So does it seem like a likley list?

32nd (D) Franklin Roosevelt (1933-1945)
33rd (D) Harry Truman (1945-1953)
34th (R) Robert Taft (1953)
35th (R) Douglas MacArthur (1953-1961)
36th (R) Richard Nixon (1961-1969)
37th (D) Hubert Humphrey (1969-1977)
38th (R) Nelson Rockefeller (1977-1979)
39th (R) Ronald Reagan (1979-1989)
40th (D) Gary Hart (1989-1993)
41st (R) George H.W. Bush (1993-2001)
42nd (D) Joe Lieberman (2001-2009)
43rd (R) John McCain (2009-Present)

This assumes Robert Taft got the Republican Nomination in 1952, as he vowed to put General MacArthur on the ticket. Had he, and died in 1953, MacArthur would have become President of the United States. After President MacArthur's two terms, Senator Nixon of California wins the White House and holds it for eight years, followed by Minnesota Senator Hubert Humphrey.

In 1977, President Humphrey is succeeded by Governor Nelson Rockefeller of New York. The Rockefeller/Reagan administration is shortlived, when President Rockefeller dies of a heart attack in 1979. Vice President Reagan becomes President, winning his own term in 1980 with George Bush on the ticket, and then Reagan wins his own re-election in 1984. In 1988, Vice President Bush loses narrowly to Senator Gary Hart of Colorado and despite reservations, rematches with Hart in 1992 to win a landslide against him. President Bush is then re-elected in 1996.

Joe Lieberman defeats Vice President Dick Cheney in one of the closest elections in 2000, serving from 2001 to 2009, suceeded by Arizona Senator John McCain.

Any Dick Lugar fans here?

Voinovich?

I'm discussing two politicians with experience as both Mayor of a large city and a US Senator.

I don't mean to nitpick but wouldn't Jack Kemp serve as President until January 20, 1997?

POD: Dwight Eisenhower decides to run for President in 1948.

34th Dwight Eisenhower (R) (1949-1957)
35th Lyndon B. Johnson (D) (1957-1963) (1)
36th Hubert H. Humphrey (D) (1963-1973)
37th Ronald Reagan (R) (1973-1977)
38th John F. Kennedy (D) (1977-1979) (2)
39th Jimmy Carter (D) (1979-1985)
40th Howard Baker (R) (1985-1993)
41st Albert Gore Jr. (D) (1993-2001)
42nd Joseph Biden (D) (2001-2005)
43rd John McCain (R) (2005-2008) (3)
44th George Allen (R) (2008-2009)
45th Evan Bayh (D) (2009-Present)

(1) Assassinated in Dallas by Lee Harvey Oswald. Succeeded by his Vice President Hubert Humphrey who would avoid a war with Vietnam (no Gulf of Tonkin resolution).
(2) Vice President from 1965-1973. Chose not to run for President in 1972 for health reasons. Governor Ronald Reagan of California tied the Democratic nominee George McGovern to 16 years of Democratic control of the White House. JFK defeated Reagan in 1976 and died in 1979 from complications related to Addison's Disease.
(3) Died in office and succeeded by his Vice President George Allen.

35th (D) John Kennedy (1961-1963)
36th (D) Lyndon Johnson (1963-1969)
37th (R) Nelson Rockefeller (1969-1977)
38th (D) Birch Bayh (1977-1981)
39th (R) Ronald Reagan (1981-1989)
40th (D) Al Gore (1989-1997)
41st (R) Dick Cheney (1997-2005)
42nd (D) Evan Bayh (2005-2009)
43rd (R) George Allen (2009-Present)

South Wins civil War

North
16th: Abraham Lincoln (R-IL): 1861-1865
17th: George McClellan (D-PA): 1865-1873
18th: George Pendleton (D-OH): 1873-1877
19th: James G. Blaine (R-ME): 1877-1889
20th: Levi Morton (R-NY): 1889-1897
21st: Adlai E. Stevenson (D-IL): 1897-1901
22nd: Mark Hanna (R-OH): 1901-1904*
23rd: Elihu Root (R-NY): 1904-1905
24th: Robert LaFollette (R-WI): 1905-1913
25th: John Kern (D-IN): 1913-1917
26th: Charles Hughes (R-NY): 1917-1925
27th: Hiram Johnson (R-CA): 1925-1933
28th: Albert Richie (D-MD): 1933-1936*
29th: Al Smith (D-NY): 1936-1944*
30th: Henry Wallace (D-IA): 1944-1945
31st: Earl Warren (R-CA): 1945-1953
32nd: Adlai Stevenson (D-IL): 1953-1957
33rd: Prescott Bush (R-CT): 1957-1965
34th: Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY) 1965-1969
35th: Hubert Humphrey (D-MN): 1969-1977
36th: Daniel Evans (R-WA): 1977-1985
37th: Walter Mondale (D-MN) 1985-1989
38th: Dan Quayle (R-IN): 1989-1997
39th: George Voinovich (R-OH): 1997-2001
40th: Hillary Rodham (D-NY): 2001-2006^
41st: Gary Locke (D-WA): 2006-2009
42nd: Tommy Thompson (R-WI): 2009-
*died in office
^impeached

South
1. Jefferson Davis (MS) 1861-1889*
2. John Reagan (TX) 1889-1905*
3. Francis Cockrell (MO) 1905-1915*
4. Champ Clark (MO) 1915-1921*
5. John Davis (VR) 1921-1955*
6. Harry Byrd (VR) 1955-1966*
7. Al Gore (TN) 1966-1971
-One party state abolished elections called for 1970
8. George Wallace (P-AL) 1971-1975
9. Strom Thurmond (C-SC) 1975-1987
10. Robert Byrd (P-VR) 1987-1991
11. Jesse Helmes (C-NC) 1991-1995
12. George Wallace (P-AL) 1995-1998*
13. Bill Clinton (P-AR) 1998-2006^
14. Phil Bredesen (P-TN) 2006-2007
15. Haley Barbour (C-MS) 2007-
* Died in office
^impeached

According to the Confederate constitution, the president was to be elected for a single six-year term without the possibility of re-election. Did the Confederacy have a different constitution in your timeline or was it amended after the South's victory?

It was slowly amended over the course of Jefferson Davis Presidency. Towards the end of Davis's first term the constitution was amended to allow him to run for reelection, and he was legitimately reelected for a second term, but subsequent elections became less and less Democratic.

Jerry Brown's Rise

42. Edmund Brown 1993-2001
43. Steve Forbes 2001-2009
44. John McCain 2009-2013
45. David Paterson 2013-2021
46. Aaron Schock  2021-

POD: FDR dies in January 1944

33rd (D) Henry Wallace (1944-1945)
34th (R) Thomas Dewey (1945-1953)
35th (D) W. Averell Harriman (1953-1961)
36th (D) Lyndon Johnson (1961-1965)
37th (R) Richard Nixon (1965-1968), assassinated by Sirhan Sirhan in 1968
38th (R) Everett Dirksen (1968-1969)
39th (D) John F. Kennedy (1969-1977)
40th (D) Terry Sanford (1977-1981)
41st (R) Robert Dole (1981-1989)
42nd (D) Robert F. Kennedy (1989-1995), died of diabetes in 1995
43rd (D) Albert Gore Jr. (1995-1997)
44th (R) John McCain (1997-2005)
45th (D) Bill Clinton (2005-Present)

Thomas Dewey (1949-1957)
Earl Warren (1957-1961)
Stuart Symington (1961-1969)
George Romney (1969-1977)
Edmund Muskie (1977-1981)
Robert Dole (1981-1989)
Jack Kemp (1989-1993)
Gary Hart (1993-2001)
John McCain (2001-2009)
John Kerry (2009-

It is US Grant (instead of Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson) who is accidentally shot by his own men in May of 1863.  Ultimately the South wins the Civil War and George McClellan wins the 1864 election.


NORTH Presidents
16 - Abraham Lincoln (1860 - 1864)
17 - George McClellan (1864 - 1872)
18 - Charles Francis Adams (1872 - 1876)
19 - Winfield Hancock (1876 - 1881)
*shot and killed by Charles Guiteau
20 - Thomas Hendricks (1881 - 1888)
21 - Benjamin Harrison (1888 - 1892)
22 - Grover Cleveland (1892 - 1900)
23 - William Jennings Bryan (1900 - 1901)
*shot and killed by Leon Czolgosz
25 - Adlai Stevenson I (1901 - 1904)
26 - Theodore Roosevelt (1904 - 1912)
27 - William Randolph Hearst (1912 - 1920)
28 - John J Pershing (1920 - 1928)
29 - Herbert Hoover (1928 - 1932)
30 - Franklin D Roosevelt (1932 - 1945)
*dies in office
31 - Scott Lucas (1945 - 1948)
32 - Thomas Dewey (1948 - 1952)
33 - Dwight Eisenhower (1952 - 1960)
34 - John F Kennedy (1960 - 1968)
*no 1963 JFK assassination because he isn't in Texas
35 - Richard Nixon (1968 - 1974)
*resigns following Watergate
36 - Gerald Ford (1974 - 1976)
37 - Birch Bayh (1976 - 1980)
38 - Ronald Reagan (1980 - 1988)
39 - George HW Bush (1988 - 1996)
40 - Evan Bayh (1996 - 2004)
41 - John McCain (2004 - 2012)
Note: No Obama campaign because no 2004 Obama Convention speech


SOUTH Presidents
1 - Jefferson Davis (1861 - 1867)
2 - Alexander Stephens (1867 - 1873)
3 - Nathan Bedford Forrest (1873 - 1877)
*dies in office from diabetes complications
4 - Judah Benjamin (1877 - 1879)
*VP successor of Forrest, doesn't seek election
5 - George Washington Custis Lee (1879 - 1885)
6 - William Henry Lee (1885 - 1891)
7 - Charles Crisp (1891 - 1896)
*dies in office
8 - John T Morgan (1896 - 1903)
*VP successor of Crisp, seeks and wins election of his own
9 - Joseph Blackburn (1903 - 1909)
10 - James "Champ" Clark (1909 - 1915)
11 - Woodrow Wilson (1915 - 1921)
12 - Carter Glass (1921 - 1927)
13 - William McAdoo (1927 - 1933)
14 - John Nance Garner (1933 - 1939)
15 - Alben Barkley (1939 - 1945)
16 - Richard Russell (1945 - 1951)
17 - Harry Byrd (1951 - 1957)
18 - Lyndon Johnson (1957 - 1963)
19 - George Wallace (1963)
*shot and killed in Dallas by Lee Harvey Oswald
20 - Robert Lovett (1963 - 1969)
*VP succesor of Wallace
21 - Strom Thurmond (1969 - 1975)
22 - Jimmy Carter (1975 - 1981)
23 - Fidel "Phil" Castro (1981 - 1987)
*former minor league pitcher and Senator from the CSA state of Cuba which was added after the war with Spain at the turn of the century
24 - Jesse Helms (1987 - 1993)
25 - Bill Clinton (1993 - 1999)
26 - Trent Lott (1999 - 2005)
27 - John Edwards (2005 - 2011)

Franklin D. Roosevelt ( 1932-1945 )
*Roosevelt don't runs in 1944 election and Wallace wins the primary.
Henry Wallace ( 1945-1953 )
Adlai Stevenson ( 1953-1961 )
John F. Kennedy ( 1961-1963 )
Lyndon B. Johnson ( 1963-1973 )
*Johnson promits peace in Vietnam and keeps his promise.
Nelson Rockefeller ( 1973-1981 )
Walter Mondale ( 1981-1989 )
Michael Dukakis ( 1989-1997 )
John McCain ( 1997-2001 )
Al Gore ( 2001-2009 )
Barack H. Obama ( 2009-2017 )

40 straight years of Democratic Presidents? This list jumps the shark.

Henry Wallace's far left (pro USSR) views would make him unelectable in a general election. The Southern delegations would never nominate Wallace. Also in 1944, very few states had primary. The majority of delegates were picked by party bosses and local party conventions.

Even if Wallace won most of the primaries, he would not be guaranteed his party's nomination. Senator Claude Pepper would most likely be the nominee because he is a Southerner who was close to labor unions and was very supportive of the New Deal.

The reason why FDR ran for reelection in 1944 was because the USA was still fighting in World War II. The only reason FDR would not run for reelection would be because WWII ended earlier.

I didn't say it was a realistic alternate list, but it think that could be interesting to imagine a 40 years democratic domination. However, I managed to inser two republicans I find more nice.

Obviously Stevenson could not win in 1952 and 1956, Johnson could very hardly win in 1968, and that would have been very difficult for Mondale and Dukakis too.

19.  Samuel Tilden (Democratic - New York): 1877-1881
20.  Rutherford B. Hayes (Republican - Ohio): 1881-1885
21.  James Blaine (Republican - Maine): 1885-1893
22.  David B. Hill (Democratic - New York): 1893-1897
23.  Nelson W. Aldrich (Republican - Rhode Island): 1897-1905
24.  Boies Penrose (Republican - Pennsylvania): 1905-1909
25.  J. C. W. Beckham (Democratic - Kentucky): 1909-1917
26.  Theodore Roosevelt (Republican - New York): 1917-1919
27.  Frank M. Byrne (Republican  - South Dakota): 1919-1928
28.  Hebert Hoover (Republican - California): 1928-1937
29.  Alben Barkley (Democratic - Kentucky): 1937-1941
30.  Franklin D. Roosevelt (Republican - New York): 1941-1949
31.  John O. Pastore (Democratic - Rhode Island): 1949-1953
32.  Dwight D. Eisenhower (Republican - Kansas): 1953-1961
33.  Orville Freeman (Republican - Minnesota): 1961-1965
34.  Terry Sanford (Democratic - North Carolina): 1965-1970
35.  John F. Kennedy (Democratic - Massachusetts): 1970-1977
36.  Nelson Rockefeller (Republican - New York): 1977-1978
37.  Bob Dole (Republican - Kansas): 1978-1985
38.  Dale Bumpers (Democratic - Arkansas): 1985-1989
39.  Bob Packwood (Republican - Oregon): 1989-1994
40.  Jack Kemp (Republican - New York): 1994-1997
41.  Al Gore (Democratic - Tennessee): 1997-2005
42.  Mario Cuomo (Republican - New York): 2005-??

good but Wouldn't Cuomo be too old?

POD: Herbert Hoover declares his candidacy for President in 1920

29. Herbert Hoover (R), 1921-1929
30. Frank Lowden (R), 1929-1933
31. Harry Byrd (D), 1933-1941
32. Theodore Roosevelt Jr. (R), 1941-1943 (died in office)
33. Styles Bridges (R), 1943-1949
34. Frank Lausche (D), 1949-1957
35. Franklin D. Roosevelt Jr. (R), 1957-1965
36. Henry Cabot Lodge (R), 1965-1969
37. John F. Kennedy (D), 1969-1972 (assassinated by Arthur Bremer)
38. John Connally (D), 1972-1974 (resigned to avoid impeachment)
39. Thomas Eagleton (D), 1974-1977
40. John Chafee (R), 1977-1985
41. Reuben Askew (D), 1985-1993
42. Thomas Kean (R), 1993-2001
43. William Weld (R), 2001-2009
44. John Cornyn (D), 2009-Present

Why would Franklin Roosevelt become a Republican ??

FDR Sr. stays a Democrat but never runs for President. On the other hand, his son FDR Jr. would become a Republican (IOTL, FDR Jr. was a Congressman from NYC during the 1950s).

Thomas Dewey (1945-1953)
Estes Kefauver (1953-1961)
Nelson Rockefeller (1961-1969)
Eugene McCarthy (1969-1977)
William Scranton (1977-1981)
Jerry Brown (1981-1989)
Lloyd Bentsen (1989-1993)
Pete Wilson (1993-2001)
Howard Dean (2001-2009)
Mitt Romney  (2009-

The Death of Conservatism or, actually, no conservatism.

And I assume this would be the Mitt Romney who tried to out Ted Kennedy Ted Kennedy on abortion, not the one who ran for President in 2008.

Yeah thats what I was trying to make with that list; a world without conservatism

The only disappointy thing about is Lloyd Bentsen being defeated in 1992, as he is one of my fav. senators. Pretty good list, though.

Thanks! Might I ask why hes one of your favorites?

I admire him greatly for many reasons, and I can't list all of them. Partly however, for his championing of Abortion Rights, capital punishment, tax cuts, and overall deregulation of industry. But it is also to do the fact that he owned Dan Quayle in the 1988 debate. "I knew Jack Kennedy, Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine.... and senator, you're no Jack Kennedy." He is one of my utmost political heroes. Thank you for asking. :)

43. George W. Bush 2001-2005
44. Howard Dean 2005-2013

Ok here's my next list, based on the POD that President McKinley chooses son of the 16th President and former Secretary of War Robert Todd Lincoln as his Vice Presidential running mate. The ticket goes onto win against WJB on a fairly decent margin.

25. William Mckinley(R-OH): 1897 to September 14th 1901*
26. Robert Todd Lincoln(R-IL):September 14th 1901-March 4th 1909
27. Theodore Roosevelt(R-NY): March 4th 1909-October 12th 1912*
28. Robert M. Lafollette Sr.(R-WI): October 12th 1912-March 4th 1917
29. Champ Clark(D-MI): March 4th 1917-March 2nd 1921*
30. William Gibbs Mcadoo(D-CA?): March 2nd 1921-March 4th 1929
31. Charles Curtis(R-KS): March 4th 1929-March 4th 1932
32. Huey Pierce Long Jr.(D-LA): March 4th 1932-August 30th 1935*
33. Franklin Delano Roosevelt(D-NY): August 30th 1935-April 12th 1945*
34. Henry Agard Wallace(D-IA): April 12th 1945-January 20th 1949
35. Robert Alphonso Taft(R-OH): January 20th 1949-July 30th 1953*
36. Douglas MacArthur(R-AR): July 30th 1953-April 5th 1963*
37. Nelson Aldrich Rockefeller(R-NY): April 5th 1963-January 20th 1965
38. Russell Billiu Long(D-LA): January 20th 1965-January 20th 1973
39. Robert Todd Lincoln Beckwith(R-IL): January 20th 1973-March 30th 1981*
40. Robert Taft Jr(R-OH): March 30th 1981-January 20th 1985
41. Edward Moore Kennedy(D-MA): January 20th 1985-August 9th 1987*
42. Ronald Harmon Brown(D-VT): August 9th 1987-April 3rd 1996*
43. Chuck Robb(D-VA): April 3rd 1996-January 20th 2001
44. Christine Todd Whitman(R-NJ): January 20th 2001-Sept 11th 2001*
45. Theodore Roosevelt IV(R-NY): Sept 11th 2001-January 20th 2009
46. Bill Richardson(D-NM):January 20th 2009-?

notes

25. Assasinated per otl
27. Assasinated
29. Dies in office same time as in otl
32. Assasinated
33. Dies in office per otl
35. Dies in office same time as in otl
36. Dies in office a year earlier than in otl, due to the added stresses of the Presidency
39. Assasinated
41. Resigns office due to major scandal
42. Dies in office same time as in otl under simmilar circumstance
44. Assasinated

POD RFK survives

Robert Kennedy (1969-1977)
Ronald Reagan (1977-1985)
Robert Dole (1985-1989)
Edward Kennedy (1989-1997)
Albert Gore (1997-2001)
John McCain (2001-2009)
Barack Obama (2009-

I'm guessing Chappaquiddick never happened in this TL.

Thats right, Senator Kennedy was visiting his brother, the President that night in this TL.

Point of Divergence: Dukakis Defeats Bush

Michael Dukakis 1989-1993
Robert Dole 1993-2001
Al Gore 2001-2005
George Allen 2005-

-Roosevelt does not run in 1912
27th: William Taft (R-OH) 1909-1917
28th: Teddy Roosevelt (R-NY) 1917-1919-died in office
29th: John Weeks (R-MA) 1919-1921
30th: James Cox (D-OH) 1921-1929
31st: Franklin Roosevelt (D-NY) 1929-1933
32nd: Herbert Hoover (R-CA) 1933-1941
33rd: John Nance Garner (D-TX) 1941-1949
34th: Thomas Dewey (R-NY) 1949-1953
35th: Lyndon Johnson (D-TX) 1953-1961
36th: Richard Nixon (R-CA) 1961-1967 -assassinated
37th: Henry Cabot Lodge JR (R-MA) 1967-1973
38th: John Kennedy (D-MA) 1973-1974- Died in office
39th: Hubert Humphrey (D-MN) 1974-1978-Died in office
40th: Robert Byrd (D-WV) 1978-1981
41st: Bob Dole (R-KS) 1981-1981 -assassinated
42nd: Daniel Evans (R-WA) 1981-1989  
43rd: Howard Baker (R-TN) 1989-1993
44th: Paul Tsongas (D-MA) 1993-1996-resigned
45th: Dick Gephart (D-MO) 1996-1997
46th: Colin Powell (R-NY) 1997-2005
47th: Bill Clinton (D-AR) 2005-2009
48th: Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX) 2009-???

This TL is so great, I want to have sex with it.

Here's my stuck in limbo RFK timeline

Robert Kennedy/Ralph Yarborough 1969-1977
Ronald Reagan/Brian Schweiker 1977-1985
Julian Bond/George McGovern 1985-1989*
Jack Kemp/Pierre DuPont 1989-1997
Al Gore/Harris Wofford 1997-2001
John McCain/Christine Todd Whitman 2001-2009
Joseph Patrick Kennedy II/Mark Warner 2009-Present

*=Bond served as the equivalent of HUD secretary under RFK. He then defeated Wyche Fowler for Georgia's 5th Congressional District in 1978

Colin Powell In 2000

Colin Powell 2001-2009
Mike Bloomberg 2009-Present

Here's a new one POD... Jimmy doesn't appoint Volcker to the Fed, and The Economic Recession of 1982 lasts untill the 1984 General Election.

39. James E. Carter Jr(D-GA): January 20th 1977-January 20th 1981
40. Ronald W. Reagan(R-CA): January 20th 1981-January 20th 1985
41. Hugh L. Carey(D-NY): January 20th 1985-January 20th 1993
42. Jesse Jackson(D-IL): January 20th 1993-January 20th 1997
43. Ross Perot(REF-TX): January 20th 1997-January 20th 2001
44. Elizabeth Dole(R-NC): January 20th 2001-January 20th 2009
45. Gary Locke(D-WA): January 20th 2009-???

POD: Dwight Eisenhower dies of a heart attack on Labor Day 1952.

Adlai Stevenson/John Sparkman (1953-1957)
Thomas Dewey/Everett Dirksen (1957-1965)
John F. Kennedy/George Smathers (1965-1973)
Barry Goldwater/Robert Griffin (1973-1977)
Robert F. Kennedy/James E. Carter (1977-1985)
James E. Carter/Gary Hart (1985-1989) (1)
Jack Kemp/William Roth (1989-1997)
Dianne Feinstein/Albert Gore Jr. (1997-2005)
George Allen/Larry Craig (2005-2009) (2)
Kathleen Kennedy Townshend/Barack Obama (2009-Present) (3)

(1) Carter did not seek reelection in 1988 for health reasons.
(2) President Allen was hurt by his use of the word "macaca," stories of secret guilty plea by Vice President Craig in relation to a gay sex bathroom incident when he was a Senator, and the recession of 2008 that resulted in several banks declaring bankruptcy. Allen replaced Craig on the ticket with Alaska Governor Sarah Palin.
(3) Kennedy Townshend was elected Governor of Maryland in 2002 and served until her election as President. Lt Governor Kweisi Mfume moved up to Governor.

President Locke? Intresting.

Here's a new list guys...The POD is that the Assasination Attempt on President Truman by Collazo and Torresola is successful.

33. Harry S. Truman(D-MO): April 12 1945-November 1st 1950*
34. Alben W. Barkley(D-KY): November 1st 1950-January 20th 1957
35. Prescott Bush(R-CT): January 20th 1957-December 11th 1960*
36. William F. Knowland(R-CA): December 11th 1960-January 20th 1969
37. Lyndon B. Johnson(D-TX): January 20th 1969-January 22nd 1973*
38. Edward M. Kennedy(D-MA): January 22nd 1973-January 20th 1981
39. Spiro Agnew(R-MD): January 20th 1981-October 10th 1983*
40. Howard H. Baker Jr.(R-TN): October 10th 1983-January 20th 1989
41. Edward Brooke(R-MA): January 20th 1989-January 20th 1997
42. Ann Richards(D-TX): January 20th 1997-Sept 13th 2004*
43. Bill Bradley(D-NJ): Sept 13th 2004-January 20th 2009
44. John Ellis "Jeb" Bush(R-CT): January 20th 2009-???

notes

33. President Truman awakes from his nap early, decides to take a breath of fresh air outside the Blair House. Torresola manages to kill the President as well as Officer Cofflet.
35. While vacationing in Palm Springs, Florida...President Bush is assainated by 73 year old, fomer Postal Worker Richard P. Pavlick, when the old man ramed his dynamite-laden Buick into Bush's vehicle. The suicide bombing occured a little bit over a month after President Bush won a landslide victory over Democratic Presidential nominee; Senator Stuart Symington of Missouri
37. Stress over the escalation of the Vietnam War, caused President Johnson to have his third and final heartattack while in the oval office.
39. President Agnew is forced to resign Office after charges were brought up against the 39th President for Bribery, money laundering and Tax evasion. Agnew is a little bit more careful ITTL so it takes a longer for his dealings to be found out, but Agnew is still Agnew.
42. The stress from the Presidency which prompted President Richards to smoke more than usual accelerated her esophagul cancer while in office, thus having her die sooner ITTL.

Seem like a plausibe list.

A Moderate Hero's My wet dream.

Ok Im about two 1976 Scenario's

1. Senator Henry "Scoop" Jackson of Washing is able to best Carter in the Primaries, clinches the nomination with Governor Rueben Askew of Florida as his running mate. Scoop is able to beat Ford in the General Election with a fairly decent margin of victory. The nation as a  whole ITTL's 2009, is a much more centrist place after the almost 30 year hold on the Presidency. The Neoconservatives have stuck with Democrats, with the Republicans holding on to a more Realpolitk like dogma.  The South is also more competetive for the Democrats, via the Presidencies of Jackson, Askew and Wilder.

38. Gerald R. Ford Jr.(R-MI): August 9th 1974-January 20th 1977
39. Henry "Scoop" M. Jackson(D-WA): January 20th 1977-September 1st 1983*
40. Reubin OD Askew(D-FA): September 1st 1983-January 20th 1989*
41. Paul D. Laxalt(R-NV): January 20th 1989-January 20th 1997
42. Paul Wellstone(D-MN): January 20th 1997-Oct 25th 2002*
43. Douglas Wilder(D-VA): Oct 25th 2002-January 20th 2009
44. James Richard "Rick" Perry(R-TX): January 20th 2009-???

Notes

39. Scoop Jackson has a better handle on foriegn policy and knows how to work with the Democratic-controlled congress, thus not loosing their support. He successfully rescues the Hostages from Iran during the 1980 Presidential Campaign. The rally around the flag support extends to election day, winning him a second term against Ronald Reagan in a landslide. However, he dies at his desk in the oval office at the age of 71 due to an aortic anuyerism on Sept 2st 1983.
40. Rueben Askew comes into office luckily right as the economy begins to turn around due to Jackson's appointment of Volcker to the Fed. He wins the 1984 Election against George H.W. Bush in massive Landslide. However his direct involvement in the Iran-Contra scandal seriously hurts his view in the American People's eyes. He does not seek a second term, and his Vice President Gary Hart looses a close election to Reagan ally Senator Laxalt of Nevada.
42. President Wellstone '96 nomination was largely reactionary, as the Democrats needed a Progressive after their third place loss following Ross Perot. He wins the Presidency on a plurailty and soon wins over many Perot voters for bringing the first true Universal Healthcare system in the US, Welfare reform and enviormental issues. After being reelected on a comfortable margin, President Wellstone and his family are killed ITTL's version of the 911 attacks when a suicide bomber rammed a truck full of high explosives into a school gymnasium.  President Wellstone was in a town hall meeting for Congressional canidates when he was killed.

Ok here is my second atl 1976 scenario


2. What if Ronald Reagan won the 1976 nomination against President Ford? Reagan is able to peel away the Missisippi delegation from Ford and after several rounds of balloting wins the nomination. Running as an Washington Outsider, Reagan uses his charisma to win out against Jimmy Carter in an extremley close election. The ultimate result however that ITTL America is a center-left country and that The Democrats have won five of the last seven elections.

38. Gerald R. Ford Jr.(R-MI): August 9th 1974-January 20th 1977
39. Ronald W. Reagan(R-CA): January 20th 1977-January 20th 1981*
40. Morris "Mo" K. Udall(D-AZ): January 20th 1981-January 20th 1989*
41. Hugh L. Carey(D-NY): January 20th 1989-January 20th 1993
42. Carroll Campbell(R-SC): January 20th 1993-January 20th 2001
43. Harvey Gantt(D-SC): January 20th 2001-January 20th 2009*
44. Willard Mitt Romney(R-MA): January 20th 2009-???

notes.
 
39. Reagan goes the way of Carter ITTL' as he fumbles the Iran Hostage Rescue Operation, made a strong push for Nuclear Energy untill Half-mile island, and with the economy still in the toilet there is little chance of a Reagan victory in '80.
40. President Udall ushers in a new liberal age, as he presided over recovered economy, a growing Enviormentalist movement, Universal Health care etc. He would also beat former Vice President  a Shweiker in a landslide during the '84 election. Udall with his comedic charm is able to hide hjis battle with Parkinson's disease for most of his term. In late 1987 he finally discloses the disease to the American people, but refuses to resign the office.
43. The First African-American President of the United States, Harvey Gantt although he beat Senator Helms in 1990 due to the popularity of the Carey adminstration is only able to make it into the White House after a House Vote. The aggresive campaigns of Senator Gantt and Vice President Kemp deadlock the electoral college 269-to-269. With a Democratic majority since 1998, Harvey Gantt assumes the Presidency. He also wins another extremley close election in 2004 against Senator John McCain of Arizona.

The Gipper Goes Down: Reagan Assassinated

40. Ronald Reagan 1981
41. George Bush 1981-1989
42. Gary Hart 1989-1993
43. Colin Powell 1993-2001
44. George W. Bush 2001-2005
J45. John Kerry 2005-2009
46. Kay Bailey Hutchison[ 2009-2017/color]
47. Mark Warner 2017-2023
48. Evan Bayh 2023-2025
49. Gabrielle Giffords 2025-  

Bush Pulls a Rabbit from a Hat

41. George Bush/Dan Quayle 1989-1997
42. Colin Powell/Jack Kemp 1997-2001¹
43. Bob Kerrey/Angus King 2001-2009
44. Jeb Bush/Kay Bailey Hutchison 2009-

¹ Powell decides to retire in 2000, citing his desire to spend more time with his family. Though he enjoys relatively high popularity, he faces an uphill battle for reelection, mostly due to Republicans having occupied the White House for twenty years. Jack Kemp, his Vice President, is defeated by Senator Bob Kerrey.

Perot Wins in 1992

42. Ross Perot 1993-1997
43. Colin Powell 1997-2005*
44. John Kerry 2005-2009
45. George Allen 2009-Present

*Colin Powell declares himself a Democrat, runs, and wins in 1996 after Perot decides not to run again.

Here is a new list...Based on the scenario, that former Gov. George Wallace of Alabama wins the 1968 election.  It results in a 2009 America having a truly third-party system.

37. George Wallace(AI-AL): January 20th 1969-May 15th 1972*
38. Curtis E. LeMay(AI-CA): May 15th 1972-January 20th 1973
39. Nelson A. Rockefeller(R-NY): January 20th 1973-January 26th 1979*
40. John Tower(R-TX): January 26th 1979-January 20th 1985
41. John H. Glenn Jr.(D-OH): January 20th 1985-January 20th 1993
42. H. Ross Perot(AI-TX): January 20th 1993-January 20th 1997
43. Colin Powell(R-NY): January 20th 1997-January 20th 2005
44. John Edwards(D-NC): January 20th 2005-January 20th 2009
45. Sarah Palin(AI-AK): January 20th 2009-???

notes

37. Wallace wins the '68 election after a wore serious of Riots springs up in the South and the northern industrial cities during the General Election. Nixon is recored in one of his drunken rages, which is used by the Wallace campaign to showcase Tricky Dick as even tricker. He wins an extremley close election, and due to his hard line against Anti-war and Problack protesters he gains a large well support within middle class America. He is assasinated by the crazed Arthur Bremer at a Campaign stop in Maryland.
38. Ronald Reagan does not run in '72 after Wallace's death with a fear of a split in the conservative coice which could shift the election to McGovern/Chisholm. Rocky finally gets the nomination, and wins the election on a comfortable margin. He dies from a heartattack at his desk in the Oval Office during the same time

16th:Abraham Lincoln 1861-1865
17th:Hannibal Hamlin 1865-1873
18th:Ulysses S. Grant 1873-1877
19th:Samuel J. Tilden 1877-1881
20th:James G. Blaine 1881-1889
21th:Grover Cleveland 1889-1897
22th:Thomas B. Reed 1897-1901
23th:Theodore Roosevelt 1901-1917
24th:Charles Hughes 1917-1921
25th:William G. McAdoo 1921-1929
26th:John W. Davis 1929-1933
27th:Herbert Hoover 1933-1949
28th:Robert Taft 1949-1953
29th:Earl Warren 1953-1961
30th:Richard Nixon 1961-1963
31th:Henry C. Lodge 1963-1965

Here is my new list...based on the POD that FDR keeps Wallace as his VP in '44, thus ensuring that Henry Wallace becomes President in April of 1945.

32. Franklin D. Roosevelt(D-NY): March 4th 1933-April 12th 1945*
33. Henry A. Wallace(D-IA): April 12th 1945-January 20th 1949
34. Thomas E. Dewey(R-NY): January 20th 1949-January 20th 1957
35. Earl Warren(R-CA): January 20th 1957-January 20th 1961
36. Lyndon B. Johnson(D-TX): January 20th 1961-November 22nd 1963*
37. John F. Kennedy(D-MA): November 22nd 1963-June 6th 1968*
38. Terry Sanford(D-NC): June 6th 1968-January 20th 1973
39. Spiro Agnew(R-MD): January 20th 1973-August 9th 1974*
40. Robert "Bob" Dole(R-KA): August 9th 1974-January 20th 1981
41. Edmund S. "Ed" Muskie(D-MI): January 20th 1981-March 26th 1986*
42. Lloyd M. Bentsen(D-TX): March 26th 1986-January 20th 1993
43. Thomas H. Kean(R-NJ): January 20th 1993-January 20th 2001
44. James D. "Dan" Quayle(IN): January 20th 2001-January 20th 2005
45. Condoleezza Rice(D-CA): January 20th 2005-???

notes.

32. FDR goes with his intial choice to keep Wallace as his VP,ignoring the call of party leaders to drop him. Roosevelt dies of an Cerebral hemmorage as he did in otl.
36. LBJ due to the stresses of the Presidency has his third and final heart-attack  while in the Oval Office in TTL's November 22nd 1963.
37. The popular President JFK is assasinated in the kitchen of the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles California by Sirhan Sirhan.
39. Spiro Agnew is the first President to resign the office, after powerful revalations are made by Congress of bribery charges by the 39th President.
41. 72 year old President Muskie dies of Congestive heart-failure in his sleep on March 26th 1986.

35. Richard Nixon 1961-1969
36. Robert F. Kennedy 1969-1971
37. Lloyd Bentsen 1971-1977
38. Hubert Humphrey 1977-1978
39. Milton Shapp 1978-1981
40. Jack Kemp 1981-1989
41. James Baker 1989-1993
42. Roland Burris 1993-2001
43. Steve Forbes 2001-2009
44. Mark Warner 2009-Present

Why is Condoleeza Rice a Democrat?

Condi was a Democrat untill 1982 in OTL, and mainly left the party due to Carter's ineptitude when it dealt with Foriegn Policy. She is brought in as a special counsel to President Muskie and works her way up to be Bentsen's National Security Advisor. Her popularity regarding Foriegn Policy enables her to win the open senate seat vacated by Alan Cranston in 1992.

POD TR wins in 1912...

Theodore Roosevelt (P) 1913-1921
Hiram Johnson (P) 1921-1925
Al Smith (D) 1925-1933
Franklin Roosevelt (P) 1933-1941
Henry Wallace (P) 1941-1945
Robert Taft (D) 1945-1953
Thomas Dewey (D) 1953-1957
Lyndon Johnson (P) 1957-1961
Barry Goldwater (D) 1961-1969
Robert Kennedy (P) 1969-1977
Henry Jackson (D) 1977-1981
Walter Mondale (P) 1981-1985
Jack Kemp (D) 1985-1993
Pete Wilson (D) 1993-2001
Al Gore (P) 2001-2009
Barack Obama (P) 2009-

Ok...I don't know if annyone's attempted to make a list of the Presidents in FaT but here it goes. Im not sure if this totally correct, because it does get a little confusing toward the end but this is what I can infer...

For All Time: Presidential List

32. Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY): March 6th 1933-December 21st 1941*
33. Henry A. Wallace (D-IA): December 21st 1941-January 20th 1945
34. Robert Taft(R-OH): January 20th 1945-May 20th 1950*
35. Thomas Dewey(R-NY): May 20th 1950-January 20th 1953
36. Joseph P. Kennedy Jr. (D-MA): January 20th 1953-January 3rd 1962*
37. Robert Lafollette Jr. (D-WI): January 3rd-December 12th? 1962*
38. Clark Gable (D-CA): December 12th 1962-January 20th 1965
39. Barry Goldwater(R-AZ): January 20th 1965-January 20th 1969
40. Joseph Foss(R-SD): January 20th 1969-January 20th 1973
41. George S. McGovern (D-SD): January 20th 1973-January 20th 1977
42. James W. “Jim” Jones (D-PA):  January 20th 1977-December 26th 1980*
43. Alexander M. Haig, Jr. (R?-PA): December 26th 1980-January 20th 1993*
44. Thomas Slade Gorton III (D-WA): January 20th 1993-January 20th 2001
45. Russ D. Feingold(R-WI): January 20th 2001-January 20th 2005
46. L. Neil Smith(R-NV): January 20th 2005-???

Notes

32. ITTL, FDR dies four years earlier but I think it’s still the cerebral hemorage that does him in.
34. President Taft is assassinated by two Pro-Independence Puerto Rican activists outside the Blair House.
36. President Kennedy is assassinated by Charles Whitman on the campus ground of the University of Texas.
37. After a disastrous attempt to reconcile the growing hostilities between races, President Lafollette commits suicide on national television.
42. I want to say that Haig has one of his men assassinate Jones due to the reading but I am not exactly sure if that is correct.
43. I assume that the Haig remains a “Democrat” his reign of power of the White House, however it would make more sense if he was a republican thus putting Gorton into office as a Democrat. Who knows such things.

I believe that Jim Jones ITTL was a Congressman and Governor of Pennsylvania before he was elected President.

Here is a new one, Wouldn't it be kinda cool if we had 50 Presidents by 2001?Here is what I came up with...

For Want for a Climate

31. Herbert Hoover (R-CA): March 4th 1929-Febuary 15th 1932*
32. Charles Curtis(R-KA): February 15th-March 4th 1932*
33. Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY): March 4th 1932-Setember 8th 1935*
34. John N. Garner IV (D-TX): September 8th 1935-January 20th 1941
35. Wendell L. Willkie (R-NY): January 20th 1941-October 8th 1944*
36. Arthur H. Vandenberg (R-MI): October 8th 1944-January 20th 1945*
37. John W. Bricker(R-OH): January 20th 1945-November 1st 1950*
38. Douglas MacArthur(R-WI): November 1st 1950-January 20th 1953
39. Adlai E. Stevenson III (D-IL): January 20th 1953-January 20th 1961
40. Robert S. Kerr (D-OK): January 20th 1961-January 1st 1963*
41. John F. Kennedy (D-MA): January 1st 1963-March 31st 1968*
42. George A. Smathers (D-FL): March 31st 1968-January 20th 1969
43. Richard M. Nixon(R-CA): January 20th 1969-April 10th 1972*
44. Spiro T. Agnew(R-MD): April 10th 1972-October 10th 1973**
45. Nelson A. Rockefeller(R-NY): October 10th 1973-January 26th 1979*
46. Howard H. Baker Jr.(R-TN): January 26th 1979-January 20th 1981
47. Edward M. Kennedy (D-MA): January 20th 1981-January 20th 1989
48. Rueben Askew (D-FL): January 20th 1989-January 20th 1993
49. Jack Kemp(R-NY): January 20th 1993-January 20th 2001
50. Douglas Wilder (D-VA): January 20th 2001-???*

Notes

31. Giuseppe Zangara sticks to his original plan, and travels to Washington DC (disregarding its lack of a Mediterranean climate) to assassinate the sitting President. He is able to catch the President while he is playing his morning routine of Tennisball (A weird volleyball and Tennis combination). The President succumbed to his wounds a few hours later.

32. The 73 year old Kansan is sworn as the thirty-second President and becomes the first President with acknowledged non-European Ancestry (He was nearly Half-Native America). He also has the shortest term in office as he only serves for only 19 days.

33. Due to the minimal butterflies involving Hoover’s assassination, FDR’s 1st term goes pretty much unchanged from OTL. However ITTL, President Roosevelt maintains a good relationship with Huey Long. Seeing him as essential to his reelection campaign, President Roosevelt visited his friend’s home state of Louisiana. The President was addressing a joint session of the Louisiana state legislature with Huey Long at his side, when both he and the Senator were shot at by Carl Weiss. President Roosevelt is killed instantly while; Senator Long succumbed to his wounds two days later.

35. President Willkie, the former businessman who narrowly won the 1940 election over Cactus Jack. The man, who rallied the nation after the attack on Pearl Harbor to fight a Second World War against the Axis nations, finally succumbed to Heart disease while on the campaign trail for reelection.

36. With the death of Vice President McNary on February 25th 1944 due to the spread of a malignant Brain Tumor, there was a vacancy in the Vice Presidency. Due to that vacancy, Secretary of State Arthur H. Vandenberg was sworn in as the 36th Presidency. His short term was mainly a caretaker Presidency before handing over the office to former Governor of Ohio, John Bricker…Willkie’s Vice Presidential running mate in the 1944 election.

37. After a resounding victory over former Secretary of Agriculture Henry A. Wallace in the 1948 election…President Bricker is assassinated by two Pro-Independence Puerto Ricans while outside his temporary residence of the Blair House.

40. The Sixty-six year old 40th President of the United States has a fatal heart attack while working in the oval office.

41. The nation would be shook to its core after the surprise death of their young and vibrant 41st President John F. Kennedy by a massive heart attack. The sudden death was mainly attributed to growing stress about what to do about the quagmire in Vietnam and his ridiculously high Cholesterol level.

43. Richard M. Nixon otherwise known as the comeback kid, after his close loss to Vice President Kerr in the 1960 election only to beat President Smathers as Governor of California in the 1968 election was assassinated by the crazed Arthur Bremer in Ottawa, Canada.

44. President Agnew became the first President to resign the Presidency due to criminal charges about his activities as Governor of Maryland. Those charges include tax evasion, money laundering and bribery.

45. Leader of the moderate wing of the Republican Party, President Rockefeller died at the age 70 from a heart attack under circumstances whose details have been covered up, but reportedly whilst having sex with his 25 year old mistress in the White House.

50. Although Seventy years old upon election day, not only is the popular former Governor of Virginia, the fiftieth President of the United States but he is also the first African American President as well.

Teddy Roosevelt wins in 1912:

28th: Theodore Roosevelt (Progressive - New York) 1913-1921
29th: Claude Swanson (Democratic - Virginia) 1921-1929
30th: William Borah (Progressive - Idaho) 1929-1933
31st: Millard Tydings (Democratic - Maryland) 1933-1935
32nd: Franklin D. Roosevelt (Democratic - New York) 1935-1949
33rd: Claude Pepper (Democratic - Florida) 1949-1953
34th: Earl Warren (Progressive - California) 1953-1961
35th: James Roosevelt (Democratic - California) 1961-1969
36th: Henry 'Scoop' Jackson (Democratic - Washington) 1969-1977
37th: Ronald Reagan (Democratic - California) 1977-1981
38th: Mike O'Callaghan (Progressive - Nevada) 1981-1989
39th: John Warner (Democratic - Virginia) 1989-1997
40th: Colin Powell (Progressive - New York) 1997-2005
41st: Paul Wellstone (Progressive - Minnesota) 2005-2009
42nd Albert Gore Jr. (Democratic - Tennessee) 2009 -??

31 and 32. The year should be 1933 instead of 1932.

34th: Thomas Dewey (Republican - New York): 1949-1957
35th: Earl Warren (Republican - California): 1957-1961
36th: Stuart Symington (Democratic - Missouri): 1961-1969
37th: Nelson Rockefeller (Republican - New York): 1969-1973
38th: Hubert H. Humphrey (Democratic - Minnesota): 1973-1979
39th: Ralph Yarborough (Democratic - Texas): 1979-1985
40th: Howard Baker (Republican - Tennessee): 1985-1993
41st: Kit Bond (Republican - Missouri): 1993-1997
42nd: Ned McWherter (Democratic - Tennessee): 1997-2005
43rd: Pat Leahy (Democratic - Vermont): 2005 - ??

Hughes Defeats Wilson

29th: Charles E. Hughes (R-NY)/ Charles Fairbanks (R-IN), Hiram Johnson (R-CA): 1917-1925
30th: Hiram Johnson (R-CA)J. Calvin Coolidge (R-MA): 1925-1933
31st: Alfred E. Smith (D-NY)/Morris Shepherd (D-TX): 1933-1941
32nd: Henry Ford (R-MI)/Fiorello La Guardia (R-NY): 1941-1949
33rd: George Marshall (D-PA)/Richard Russell (D-GA): 1949-1957
34th: Richard Russell (D-GA)Hubert Humphrey (D-MN): 1957-1961
35th President: Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/John Stennis (D-MS): 1961-1965
36th: William Scranton (D-PA)/George Romney (R-MI): 1965-1973
37th: George Romney )R-MI)/Ronald Reagan (R-CA): 1973-1977
38th: John F. Kennedy (D-MA)/Dale Bumpers (D-AR): 1977-1981
39th: Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Jack Kemp (R-NY): 1981-1989[color]
40th: Jack Kemp (R-NY)/Lamar Alexander (R-TN): 1989-1993
41st: Sam Nunn (D-GA)/Bill Bradley (D-NJ): 1993-2001
42nd: Tommy Thompson (R-WI)/Dan Lungren (R-CA): 2001-2005
43rd: Tom Daschle (D-SD)/Tim Kaine (D-VA): 2005-2013

PBrunsel, as much as I love the idea, I think that in order for Richard Russell to become President, civil rights would have to no longer be an issue; likewise for a Vice President John Stennis.

Ben,

I put the liberal Humphrey with them with that in mind, but now that I think about it, Humphrey would never have ran with such figures due to their positions of civil rights.

I could see someone like Smathers getting on the ticket, but never Russell or Stennis.  Remember what happened when Russell tried to run for President in 1952.

Don't Go Ike

34th: Dwight D. Eisenhower (R-PA) 1953-1957*
35th: Adlai E. Stevenson II (D-IL) 1957-1959*
36th: Samuel T. Rayburn (D-TX) 1959-1961*
37th: Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY) 1961-1969
38th: Dan K. Moore (D-NC) 1969-1973*
39th: Henry M. Jackson (D-WA) 1973-1981*
40th: Ronald Reagan (D-CA) 1981-1985*
41st: James R. Thompson (R-IL) 1985-1993
42nd: Lamar Alexander (R-TN) 1993-2001
43rd: Ben Nelson (D-NE) 2001-2005*
44th: Lincoln Chafee (R-RI) 2005-2009*
45th: Mark Warner (D-VA) 2009-??

34. Eisenhower would declare that he wasn't in the running for reelection to the presidency on account of health issues, this coupled with Nixon being ever more polarizing than OTL would have a strong "Drop Nixon" campaign and after Eisenhower goes and endorses the opposition candidate against Nixon.

35. Stevenson would be assassinated by an ardent states rights supporter by gunshot. Stevenson would succumb to his wounds quickly and with Vice President KeFauvers death in 1957 in an assassination of his own, the presidency fell upon Speaker of the House Samuel Rayburn.

36. "Mr. Sam" would take his place as the 36th President and would serve for a little over a year and would announce that he wasn't running for the Presidency shortly after his swearing in, making him an caretaker and lame duck President.

38. Hubert Humphrey, the "Comeback Kid" would win the nomination again like in 1960 and would sail to election in 1968 with NC Governor Dan Moore as VP. Humphrey would make an tour of the nation as President-Elect and this would lead to tragedy. Sirhan B. Sirhan would gun down the President-Elect at a tour of an hotel, which Sirhan would be quickly caught and brought to justice but Humphrey would die at the hospital. Vice President-Elect Moore would become the 38th President come January and would serve his term with the distinction of continuing the draw down in Vietnam and continuing the support for Civil Rights and adding onto the several civil rights bills passed under President Rockefeller. Moore would announce that he wasn't running for the Presidency in 1970.

39. Henry "Scoop" Jackson won the nomination handidly with Birch Bayh as his VP and against Republican Raymond Shafer of PA. Jackson would serve out his first term with a strong national security-esque legislation but in 1976, Vice President Bayh would die in an aviation disaster and Jackson would appoint liberal Walter Mondale of Minnesota to fill the Vice Presidency. Jackson won reelection in a fairly close race over Republican Charles Percey of Illinois.

40. Ronald Reagan would never become an Republican on account of the Rockefeller Republicans still being in power inside the Republican Party as Barry Goldwater's 1960 campaign on an conservative platform failed against Nelson Rockefeller and Reagan would stay an conservative Democrat. In 1970, Reagan was elected Governor of California and would use this as a jumping point into the US Senate and using this to jump into the Democratic Nomination of 1984 against VP Mondale. Reagan won over Mondale and the Republicans in the general election. Under Reagan the military budget would continue to balloon and would have an economic downfall as the nation went into a recession. Reagan would loose reelection in 1984 to Illinois Governor James Thompson.

43. Conservative Governor of Nebraska Ben Nelson would push his way to the Democratic nomination against several progressive candidates, the major one being Paul Wellstone. Nelson would win the election with voter exhaustion after 16 years of Republican rule and voted in the Democrats. 9/11 would occur (basically the same OTL with the exception of the attack on the Panama Canal, which is still leased to the US) and would prompt President Nelson would round up a coalition of nations like President Thompson had done during the Gulf War but the Nelson coalition would first form a commando force to hunt and kill if necessary the leaders of the 9/11 attacks. This "Hunter" plan wouldn't work as well as the Nelson Administration wanted it to as Osama bin Laden escaped and went into hiding. In 2002, the US invaded Afghanistan and would face triumph and failure in the Afghan nation. In the 2004 Presidential Election, Nelson was defeated in a upset by Republican Lincoln Chafee.

44. Son of former Chairmen of the Republican Party (or RNC), Lincoln Chafee would become Mayor of Warwick in 1992 and would be appointed to the Senate in 1999 after the death of his father John Chafee. Lincoln Chafee would make a name for himself after his criticism of the Nelson Administration and also his "maverick" voting record. Chafee would run for the Republican Nomination of 2004 and would pick up numerous endorsements and win the nomination and choose the fairly conservative former Governor of Virginia and incumbent Senator Chuck Hagel as his running mate. The Chafee/Hagel ticket would win over the Nelson/Bayh ticket in a suprise and upset. Chafee would work out an non binding timetable for the war in Afghanistan and would lead fairly well as the administration's response to Hurricane Katrina was seen as good as President Chafee gave the credit to FEMA director James L. Witt. Even with fair approval ratings, President Chafee would loose reelection to center-conservative former Virginia Governor Mark Warner. This suprise would be linked to the American peoples weary outlook on the economic recession(which is much more mild than OTL) and President Chafee's continual assurance that the nation would get through the economic ruffpatch. Warner would use the weariness to his advantage and win over handfuls of economic conservatives with his economic plans and would go directly to the American people with the joint series of town hall debates between Chafee and Warner.

Great list, with the triumphant Roosevelt destroying the Republican Party ( a dream... :) ).

POD: 22nd Amendment not added to the Constitution

34. Dwight D. Eisenhower (1953-1965)
35. Richard M. Nixon (1965-1969)
36. Hubert H. Humphrey (1969-1977)
37. Terry Sanford (1977-1981)
38. Jack Kemp (1981-1989)
39. Robert F. Kennedy (1989-1997)
40. Pete Wilson (1997-2005)
41. Albert Gore Jr. (2005-Present)

34. During his third term, President Eisenhower provided air cover to in the Bay of Pigs operation which led to the revolt that overthrew Fidel Castro in 1962 and returned Fulgencio Batista to power.

35. After serving three terms as Ike's loyal Vice President, Richard Nixon was nominated by the Republicans. He selected Pennsylvania Governor William Scranton as his running mate. With the Nixon/Scranton and Johnson/Humphrey tickets committed to civil rights (1964 Act was signed into law by Eisenhower), Alabama Governor George Wallace launched his third party campaign for President. He selected former Rep. John Rousselot (R-CA), a John Birch Society leader, as his running mate. Wallace was only able to win his home state plus Mississippi. Nixon won Florida and Viriginia. Johnson won the remaining Southern states. Nixon's term in office was plagued with the ongoing civil war in Cuba and protests against American involvement in the war (there were very few American military advisers in Vietnam as there was no Gulf of Tonkin incident exploited by Eisenhower). In 1966, Democrats scored huge gains in the midterm elections. In California, Governor Pat Brown was re-elected to a third term against Ronald Reagan who would not run for political office again. Senator Paul Douglas survived a challenge from Charles Percy in Illinois (Percy would be elected Governor in 1968). In Massachusetts, Bobby Kennedy ran for Governor and defeated incumbent John Volpe. A united Democratic party nominated Hubert Humphrey for President and former North Carolina Governor Terry Sanford for Vice President. George Wallace was elected to the US Senate in Alabama and endorsed the Humphrey/Sanford ticket. Nixon returned to California in disgrace and would die of phlebitis on August 9, 1974.

36. As President, Humphrey ended the war in Cuba with a peace treaty in 1969. South and North Vietnam ended its war by cease fire after the death of North Vietnamese leader Ho Chi Minh. Also passed into law was the Earned Income Tax Credit, Environmental Protection Act and school lunch programs along with amendments to the 1968 voting rights act. In 1970, Senator John F. Kennedy, 1960 Democratic nominee for President, chose not to seek reelection citing health problems. Governor Robert Kennedy was elected to his brother's Senate seat. Also, Governor Pat Brown was elected to the Senate by defeating incumbent George Murphy. He was succeeded as Governor by Assembly Speaker Jess Unruh. In 1972, Senator Wallace challenged Humphrey in the primaries as an opponent of the numerous liberal programs championed by the President but his campaign ended after surviving an assassination attempt by Arthur Bremer. Wallace was left paralyzed from the waist down and did not seek reelection in 1974. Humphrey was reelected in 1972 over former Vice President William Scranton who was forced to pick Barry Goldwater as his running mate. On Thanksgiving of 1975, President Humphrey announced that he would not seek a third term when he revealed that he had cancer.

37. Sanford easily cruised through the primaries and won the Democratic party nomination. He chose Rep. Morris Udall as his running mate. The Republicans nominated Barry Goldwater for President and John Tower for Vice President. Goldwater's controversial foot in the mouth statements doomed his campaign from the start. His denials that Poland was not dominated by the Soviet Union in a debate hurt. Sanford would run away with a 46 state landslide victory that November. But the energy crisis, Panama Canal, recession and the Iran hostage crisis hurt Sanford. Jack Kemp's tax cut agenda result in victory in the New Hampshire primary and the Republican nomination. His running mate was Bob Dole.

39. Former Vice President Udall announced in 1987 that he had Alzheimers and retired from politics. That made Senator Robert F. Kennedy the frontrunner. He easily defeated Senator Paul Simon, Rep. Richard Gephart, Senator Albert Gore Jr. and former Arizona Governor Bruce Babbitt to win the Democratic party nomination. He selected Gore as his running mate and won a close race against Vice President Dole and his running mate Phil Gramm. Despite RFK's poularity, Gore could not defeat Governor Pete Wilson in 1996.

40. Most of President Wilson's presidency focused on the War on Terrorism especially after 9/11/01. But his decision to start the war in Iraq led to over 2,000 deaths there. In his second try, Gore defeated Wilson who sought to become the first President since Eisenhower to be elected to a thrid term, but it was not to be.

Whatever happened to?

Pat Brown: After serving three terms as Governor of California (1959-1971), Brown was elected to the Senate with his victory over Republican incumbent George Murphy in 1970. In the Senate, Brown championed numerous public works and highway building projects all over California. He retired from the Senate in 1982.

Robert Finch: A protege of Nixon, Finch was a Chief of Staff to the Vice President. When Nixon was elected President, Finch became Secretary of HUD. His tenure was marked by the building of public housing units and going after violators of the Civil Rights Act. After Nixon left the White House, Finch returned to Los Angeles to practice law. In 1974, he ran for Governor and defeated the corrupt and unpopular incumbent Jess Unruh. As Governor, Finch cut income taxes several times and left office with an over $300 million surplus. He was succeeded as Governor in 1982 by San Diego Mayor Pete Wilson.

Jerry Brown: After comtemplating the priesthood, Brown dropped out of divinity school and moved to Oakland. He was elected to the City Council in 1971. In 1974, he was elected State Attorney General. In that position, he successfully won lawsuits against tobacco companies and stopped offshore oil drilling. In 1982, he was elected to his father's Senate seat. In 1990, Brown resigned from the Senate after he was elected Governor. After serving two terms, Brown retired from politics and spent a few years doing missionary work in India. He lives quietly in Oakland with his wife and is an occasional commentator for CNN.

Ronald Reagan: After his unsuccesful race for Governor of California in 1966, Reagan returned to acting. After failing to unseat Senator Alan Cranston in 1974, Reagan quit politics for good. He would continue to be a spokesman for conservative causes and served as President of the NRA from 1979-1983. Reagan quit public life after his 1994 announcement that he had Alzheimers which took his life in 2004.

Edward Kennedy: A prominent trial lawyer and liberal activist, Ted Kennedy was elected Attorney General of Massachusetts in 1974 and reelected in 1978. He did not run for public office in 1982 in order to spend more time with his family and battle his drinking problems. In 1988, he chaired Bobby's campaign for President and served as White House Chief of Staff from 1989 to 1995. When Al Gore was elected President, Kennedy served as US Attorney General from 2004 to 2008, resigning when he revealed that he had cancer. Kennedy currently lives at the family compound in Hyannis Port and serves as consultant to the Robert F. Kennedy Presidential Library. He is also a spokesman for research on diabetes, which took the life of Bobby in 2002.

Bill Clinton: After serving for 12 years as Governor of Arkansas (1979-1991), Clinton succeeded Dianne Feinstein as US Attorney General (1992-1996). He returned to Arkansas and was elected to the US Senate. When Al Gore was elected President in 2004 and the Democrats regained the Senate majority, Clinton became Senate Majority Leader. His name is mentioned as a possible Presidential candidate in 2012.

Ok...Here is another list...Based on the POD that FDR does not seek a third term and instead pushes his friend and Commerce Secretary Harry Hopkins as his successor.

Give 'em Hell Harry!!!

32. Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY): March 4th 1933-January 20th 1941*
33. Harry L. Hopkins (D-NY): January 20th 1941-January 19th 1946*
34. Claude D. Pepper (D-FL): January 19th 1946-January 20th 1953
35. Harold E. Stassen (R-MN): January 20th 1953-Mary 30th 1963*
36. Everett Dirksen (R-IL): May 30th 1963-January 20th 1965*
37. Ralph Yarborough (D-TX); January 20th 1965-January 20th 1973
38. Ronald Reagan (D-CA): January 20th 1973-January 20th 1977
39. James L. Buckley (R-NY): January 20th 1977-June 17th 1982*
40. Howard Baker, Jr. (R-TN): June 17th 1982-January 20th 1989
41. Edward M. Kennedy (D-MA): January 20th 1989-August 9th 1994*
42. Martha L. Collins (D-KY): August 9th 1994-January 20th 2001*
43. John Ritter (R-CA): January 20th 2001-September 11th 2003*
44. Martin L. King III (R-GA): September 11th 2003-January 20th 2009*
45. Henry G. Cisneros (D-TX): January 20th 2009-???*

Notes

32. The lack of the “Roosevelt Recession” in 1938, allows FDR to see his work as President as done, and doesn’t break the Roosevelt traditions. He and Charles McNary focus their political energies into getting Commerce Secretary Harry Hopkins the nomination. After fighting off Garner from the right and Wallace from the left at the convention, the sickly Hopkins emerges as the compromise candidate and wins a comfortable victory over Wendell Willkie in the 1940 Presidential election.

33. Despite his stomach illness, Hopkins handles the War as much as Franklin did in OTL, holding his body together by sheer will. But by time the of the 1944 election rolls around, he begrudgingly runs for a second term although looking like he was at Death’s Door. Only able to work but two to three hours a day, most of the heavy lifting of governing was done to his Cabinet. He would finally succumb to his long bout with stomach cancer on January 19th 1946.

35. The young, popular war-hero/Governor Harold Stassen ascends to the White House as the first Republican President in Twenty years. He becomes a symbol in many Americans minds as the symbol of the mass-consumerist, new suburban society of the 1950’s. This popularity with American people gains him an unprecedented third term in 1960 over the bland Senator Symington of Missouri. However, Stassen does not live to run for a fourth term, as he was assassinated while giving a commencement address on the campus grounds of the University of Texas by a 23 year old student, who felt as if Stassen were to become a Dictator-for-life, whose sole goal was to bring about WWIII with the Soviet Union.

36. President Dirksen, assumed the Presidency in a dramatic way as he instantly pushed for the passage of a Civil Rights Act in 1964. His stance on the civil rights issue would bond Blacks to the Republican Party through to the new millennium. President Dirksen refused to seek out a term in his own right, as he cited he would be too old for the office. A brokered GOP Convention between Rockefeller and Goldwater would ultimately lead to Goldwater’s narrow loss to Ralph Yarborough of Texas

39. The last Hurrah for the Conservative wing of the GOP, James L. Buckley was elected on a close electoral victory over the staunch liberal Reagan Presidency in 1976. Buckley’s swift and successful handling of the Iran Hostage Crisis enabled him to win a resounding victory over Mo Udall in the 1980 Election. However, the nation falls into a deep recession within the first year of his second term. The Recession leads to a young, disgruntled factory worker to successfully assassinate the President while in on the stump in Flint, Michigan. Yet the economy does turn around just in time for the 1984 Presidential Election, for President Baker.

41. After Vice President Joe Kennedy Sr.’s landslide loss to President Stassen in 1956 and the surprise death of Senator Jack Kennedy in 1963 due to congestive heart failure, and Senator Robert F. Kennedy nomination to the United States Supreme court in 1968 by President Yarborough, many though the idea of a Irish-American Catholic President would never come to be. Yet in 1988, the liberal lion successfully won back the White House for the Democrats. However, President Kennedy triumphs in Government programs were to be overshadowed by an enormous political scandal that would ultimately result of his resignation of the office.

42. The United States first Female President of the United State…Collins is able to distance herself away from the Kennedy scandal enough to ensure a victory in her own right in 1996.

43. Due to the clench rule TTL’s John Ritter although similar to OTL version in appearance and personality, this reality’s Ritter is more politically ambitious. A moderate to liberal Republican, the former Actor won a surprise victory over Diane Feinstein in the 1990 California Gubernatorial race. The first baby boomer President, the first years of his term went rather smoothly as many Americans reaped the boom of the Dot com bubble. It would cause a shock to many, when news that President Ritter had an aortic dissection at his desk in the Oval office on September 11th2003.

44. Martin Luther King III was swiftly sworn in as the nation’s 44th and 1st African American President after the untimely death of President Ritter. TTL’s King is essentially the same as in OTL, however he is also politically more ambitious and using the populist rhetoric of his late father is able to cobble together a coalition of blacks and poor white votes to allow him to emerge as a Republican Senator from Georgia. Successful execution in the Second Gulf War allows King to be reelected in a resounding victory in 2004.

45. However, President King’s hands off policy would come to be his downfall in his “2nd” term after the fall of the US Economy into another deregulation sponsored Recession around election season and his overall detachment from the major issues would add to his loss to Texas Governor Henry Cisneros. The first Hispanic President of the United States promised to bring Responsibility back to Washington, whether he makes good on his promise remains to be seen.

FDR Dies in 1944

32. Franklin Delano Roosevelt (D-NY) (1933-1944)
33. Henry Wallace (D-IA) (1944-1945)
34. Thomas Dewey (R-NY) (1945-1953)
35. John Bricker (R-OH) (1953-1957)
36. Claude Pepper (D-FL) (1957-1963)
37. John F. Kennedy (D-MA) (1963-1969)
38. Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY) (1969-1977)
39. Robert F. Kennedy (D-MA) (1977-1985)
40. Jim Wright (D-TX) (1985-1989)
41. Jack Kemp (R-NY) (1989-1997)
42. Albert Gore, Jr. (D-TN) (1997-2005)
43. John McCain (R-AZ) (2005-2013)

33. After FDR suffered a fatal heart attack on September 7, 1944, Vice President Wallace assumed the Presidency. However, the public perception of Wallace as too far to the left and sympathetic to the USSR, Governor Dewey gained support even among the New Dealers and a key endorsement from Frances Perkins, who resigned as Secretary of Labor after Roosevelt's death.

34. As soon after he was sworn in to office, President Dewey learned for the first time of the existence of the Manhattan Project. After meeting with Prime Minister Churchill and General Dwight Eisenhower, Dewey put George Patton in charge of leading the drive to Berlin shortly after Mussolini was deposed from power. Even though this move infuriated Stalin, Dewey wanted to win the war and bring the troops back home. Allied tanks reached Berlin on May 6, 1945 beating out the Russian Red Army by two days. This resulted in a united Germany emerging in 1948. President Dewey gave the order to drop the atomic bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki on July 1-2. Emperor Hirohito announced Japan's surrender on July 3. World War II was over and the July 4th celebrations would become the greatest so far in history. In Italy, King Victor Emmanuel III abdicated in favor of his son, Crown Prince Umberto, after he was urged to do so by Dewey. In a close vote, the Italians retained the monarchy in a plebiscite. Secretary of State Arthur Vandenberg pushed a plan through Congress to fund post-war reconcstruction of Europe. Other domestic measures passed included funding for housing construction, the Civil Rights Act of 1947 and the Taft-Hartley Labor Relations Act, despite opposition from labor unions. In the first national elections since the war, pro-USSR parties failed to win in Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Rumania, Bulgaria and Greece. However, Communists would hold power in Albania and Yugoslavia. Dewey also provided financial assistance to Chiang Kai-Shek that enabled the Kuomintang to defeat the Communists in the Chinese Civil War. The Communists would also taste defeat in Korea and Vietnam.

35. Riding Dewey's popularity in 1952, Vice President John Bricker and his running mate Senator Earl Warren of California defeated the Democratic ticket of Averell Harriman and Georgia Governor Herman Talmadge. Being more conservative than his predecessor, President Bricker's attempts to eliminate four Cabinet posts, Social Security and the Tennessee Valley Authority met with defeat in Congress although the Republicans controlled both houses from 1950-1954. Vice President Warren refused to run for reelection in 1956 and was replaced on the ticket by Senator Karl Mundt of South Dakota. The Democrats nominated Senator Claude Pepper for President and 39 year old Senator John F. Kennedy for Vice President.

36.  President Pepper would preside over a prosperous economy and would navigate through the Suez Crisis and a CIA-sponsored coup that overthrew Albania's Stalinist dictator Enver Hoxha and led to democracy in that country. Pepper would nominate former Vice President Earl Warren to the Supreme Court and enjoy re-election over Nelson Rockefeller in 1960. But tragedy would strike when President Pepper was assassinated in Dallas on November 22, 1963 by Lee Harvey Oswald.

37. Coming into office, President Kennedy would use Pepper's memory to push through legislation creating Medicare, open housing, cut capital gains taxes and strengthen consumer protections. After a Constitutional Amendment was ratified allowing the President to fill a vacancy in the Vice Presidency, Kennedy selected Congressman Wilbur Mills of Arkansas for Vice President. In 1964, Kennedy defeated Barry Goldwater in a landslide. In 1968, Kennedy declined to seek re-election in the wake of health problems and rumors of extramarital affairs.

38. With the country weary of the Democrats 12 years in the White House, the last thing the Democrats needed was another scandal when its Presidential nominee, Vice President Wilbur Mills was involved in a car accident while drinking. Also found in the car was burlesque dancer Fanny Foxe, a woman not his wife. Mills was forced to resign as the Democratic nominee. He was replaced by his running mate, Senator Hubert Humphrey. Rockefeller cruised to an easy victory that November.

39. Elected to the Senate in 1958 to succeed his brother who was elected Vice President, Bobby Kennedy became Senate Majority Leader in 1970 defeating Lyndon Johnson. Bobby served in that position until stepping down in 1975. Kennedy and his running mate, Congressman Jim Wright of Texas won comfortably over the Republican ticket of Vice President Gerald Ford and his running mate, Ohio Governor Jim Rhodes.

40. President Wright's single term in office was marked by a scandal in which he pressured lobbyists to purchase copies of his autobiography in order to get around campaign contribution laws. Wright survived impeachment but the Republicans used the issue to sweep the 1986 Congressional elections. Wright chose not to run for reelection in 1988.

41. Senator Jack Kemp had an easy path to the GOP nomination. He selected former Delaware Governor Pete du Pont as his running mate. Senator Paul Simon never had a chance against Kemp. However, a recession in Kemp's second term resulted in Democrats sweeping the 1994 elections. Senator Gore and his running mate Joe Biden would easily defeat the du Pont/Lugar ticket in 1996.

Thats a really good list. Good job!

Patton Survives World War II

33. Harry S Truman (D-MO), 1945-1949
34. George Patton (R-CA), 1949-1957
35. Harold Stassen (R-MN), 1957-1961
36. Estes Kefauver (D-TN), 1961-1963
37. Stuart Symington (D-MO), 1963-1969
38. John F. Kennedy (D-MA), 1969-1972
39. George Smathers (D-FL), 1972-1973
40. James Rhodes (R-OH), 1973-1977
41. Ronald Reagan (D-CA), 1977-1985
42. John Warner (R-VA), 1985-1993
43. Mario Cuomo (D-NY), 1993-2001
44. Richard Gephardt (D-MO), 2001-2009

36. Dies of a heart attack on August 10, 1963

38. Assassinated May 15, 1972 by Arthur Bremer at a shopping center in Laurel, Maryland

41. Reagan remains a Democrat. During Patton's presidency, Reagan would often criticize him for wasteful spending programs such as highway construction. His politics were pro-small business and for cutting income taxes. Otherwise, he remained a New Deal (rather than Great Society) Democrat. The Republicans would remain a budget balancing, socially libertarian, conservative party (no Christian Right takeover of the GOP, but generally white Protestant).

43. Mario Cuomo defeated Congressman Ed Koch and incumbent NYC Mayor Abe Beame in the Democratic party primary in 1977. He would solve the city's fiscal crisis and leave office in 1989 with a budget surplus. He would turn down pleas from the Democrats to run for Governor in 1986 and 1990. Was touted as a possible Presidential candidate since his 1984 keynote speech at the Democratic National Convention as well as a Supreme Court Justice during the Reagan administration. Cuomo finally threw his hat in the ring in 1992 and defeated Vice President Alan Simpson.

44. Served as Vice President under Mario Cuomo. When Gephardt won his party's nomination in 2000, he picked former Congressman and California Governor Michael Reagan as his running mate.

Gerald Ford Victorious

38. 1974-1981 Gerald Ford
39. 1981-1982 Birch Bayh
40. 1982-1989 Gary Hart
41. 1989-1997 John Warner
42. 1997-2001 Paul Wellstone
43. 2001-2009 John McCain
44. 2009-2017 Kay Bailey Hutchison

One Six-Year Term
Franklin Roosevelt (D-NY) (1933-1939)
Harry Truman (D-MO) (1939-1945)
Thomas Dewey (R-NY) (1945-1951)
Dwight Eisenhower (R-NY) (1951-1957)
Richard Nixon (R-CA) (1957-1963)
Lyndon Johnson (D-TX) (1963-1969)
Hubert Humphrey (D-MN) (1969-1975)
Gerald Ford (R-MI) (1975-1981)
Ronald Reagan (R-CA) (1981-1987)
Walter Mondale (D-MN) (1987-1993)
Robert Dole (R-KS) (1993-1999)
John McCain (R-AZ) (1999-2005)
John Kerry (D-MA) (2005-

Reagan wins in '76


Ronald Reagan (R-CA) (1977-1985)
Richard Schweiker (R-PA) (1985-1989)
Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX) (1989-1997)
Albert Gore (D-TN) (1997-2001)
John McCain (R-AZ) (2001-2009)
Barack Obama (D-IL) (2009-

bumping this thread

POD: Warren Harding Survives Heart Attack in 1923

29. Warren G. Harding (R-OH) (1921-1925)
30. Charles W. Bryan (D-NE) (1925-1933)
31. Herbert C. Hoover (R-CA) (1933-1941)
32. Theodore Roosevelt, Jr. (R-NY) (1941-1944)
33. Robert Taft (R-OH) (1944-1949)
34. Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY) (1949-1953)
35. Claude Pepper (D-FL) (1953-1957)
36. Thomas Dewey (R-NY) (1957-1965)
37. Hubert H. Humphrey (D-MN) (1965-1973)
38. Charles Percy (R-IL) (1973-1981)
39. Ronald Reagan (D-CA) (1981-1989)
40. Jack Kemp (D-NY) (1989-1993)
41. Dianne Feinstein (R-CA) (1993-2001)
42. John McCain (R-AZ) (2001-2009)
43. Albert Gore, Jr. (D-TN) (2009-Present)

29. Harding's presidency would be hurt by the Teapot Dome Scandal and his health problems that limited his campaigning for re-election in 1924. The Democrats nominated Gov. Charles Bryan of Nebraska on the tenth ballot. To appease the northern delegates that supported Al Smith and the southern and western delegates that supported William Gibbs McAdoo, Congressman Alben Barkley (D-KY) was nominated for Vice President. Bryan campaigned on a law and order platform, tax breaks for farmers and lowering tariffs.

30. President Bryan presided over a prosperous economy that categorized the Roaring 20s. In 1928, prominent Republicans Herbert Hoover, Hiram Johnson and William Borah chose not to run. But former Vice President Calvin Coolidge did and the Republicans nominated him on the first ballot. However, Bryan was easily re-elected. In his second term, Bryan vetoed the Smoot-Hawley Act which would have increased tariffs. The stock market would fall by 5 percent and a recession would follow. The Republicans would make huge gains in the 1930 congressional races and win back the majority in the House and Senate.

31. Herbert Hoover decided to throw his hat in the ring. The former Commerce Secretary and President of the American Red Cross earned great praise for his humanitarian activities in the aftermath of the Great Mississippi River flood of 1927. The Republicans nominated Hoover on the first ballot. His running mate was Senator George Norris of Nebraska. Hoover's "Chicken in every pot" campaign earned the victory of Democratic nominee Barkley. In office, Hoover successfully pushed major banking reforms, housing bills and the Highway Act of 1934. Hoover won a landslide re-election over Al Smith, the first Catholic nominated for President. Smith's religion hurt him in the South as Hoover would win Texas (home state of Smith's running mate, John Nance Garner), Florida and Virginia. Despite Hoover's opposition, the Prohibition Amendment was repealed in 1937. Despite being heavily favored for a third term in 1940, Hoover decided to retire and handpicked New York Governor Theodore Roosevelt, Jr. as his successor. Roosevelt chose Senator and former US Attorney General Robert Taft (R-OH) as his running mate, primarily to win over supporters of Senator Arthur Vandenberg (R-MI). They easily defeated the Democratic ticket of Cordell Hull and Millard Tydings.

32. As President, Roosevelt worked to increase the size of the navy and promised to remain neutral in WWII but that neutrality was broken when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. Roosevelt asked Congress to declare war on Japan and the Axis powers. WWII goes the same as OTL. Tragedy would strike on the eve of the Republican National Convention when President Roosevelt died on July 12, 1944 due to complications from arthritis and heart trouble. He was 56.

33. Taft was sworn in as President and in his first nationally broadcast speech promised to continue the war until victory. The Republicans unanimously nominated Taft. He selected Congressman Fred Hartley (R-NJ) as his running mate. Taft would also learn of the existence of the Manhattan Project. The Taft-Hartley ticket defeated the Democratic ticket of Albert Chandler and his running mate Ernest McFarland. The war ended when atomic bombs were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945. In peacetime, Taft would prove to be less popular. He got the GI Bill, 1945 Civil Rights Act, and public housing legislation passed but was denounced by organized labor when he signed the 1946 Labor Relations Act limiting union activities into law. In foreign affairs, Taft's opposition to the United Nations and financial aid to postwar Europe led to the resignation of Arthur Vandenburg as Secretary of State. The Democrats swept the 1946 midterm elections. Taft decided to run for reelection in 1948 but Vice President Hartley decided to retire from politics. Taft chose Governor Earl Warren (R-CA) as his running mate as a nod to the progressive wing. Franklin D. Roosevelt, a former Governor of New York elected to the Senate in 1944, was nominated by the Democrats. He selected Senator Claude Pepper as his running mate. The Roosevelt-Pepper ticket won in a landslide.

34. In his inauguration speech, FDR promised a New Deal for the American people and to fight Communism abroad. FDR got the Marshall Plan (named after his Secretary of State George Marshall) passed as well as funding for a future site of the United Nations building in New York City. The UN, located at this time in Toronto, would move to New York in 1951. FDR named Adlai Stevenson as the first US Ambassador to the UN. On the recommendation of Secretary of War Dwight Eisenhower, Roosevelt ordered increased aid to the Chinese Nationalists and military advisors to South Korea. This resulted in the capture and execution of Mao Zedong in China and Kim Il Sung in Korea. Chiang Kai Shek would rule China until his death in 1975. Korea would drift between democracy and military dictatorships until 1985. Upon the formation of NATO in 1950, FDR appointed Eisenhower as the first US Ambassador to NATO. In 1952, FDR announced that he would not seek reelection for health reasons (he would die of a stroke in 1954). Vice President Pepper easily won the Democratic nod and picked Adlai Stevenson as his running mate.

35. Vice President Pepper defeated the Republican candidate, Senator William Knowland of California in 1952. While Pepper was praised for his progressive reforms and a voting rights act that became law thanks to the efforts of Senate Majority Leader Lyndon Johnson, his civil rights stance caused a backlash in the South. In 1956, Senator Richard Russell announced his candidacy for President as the States Rights Democratic party candidate. Russell and his running mate Strom Thurmond won most of the South except Florida and Texas. The Republicans nominated former New York Governor Thomas Dewey for President and Senator Wayne Morse of Oregon for Vice President. Dewey would have more electoral college votes than Pepper but short of an absolute majority. Congress would vote for the next President and Vice President. When Russell's conditions for his support became unacceptable to both Dewey and Pepper, a deal was reached and Pepper instructed the Florida House delegation to vote for Dewey and he was elected President. In the Senate, a coalition of Republicans, non-Southern Democrats, and Senator George Smathers (D-FL) voted to elect Wayne Morse Vice President. The vote was announced by Adlai Stevenson in his role as President of the Senate.

36. After Dewey was inaugurated, he announced the nomination of former President Pepper as Ambassador to the UN. Pepper would play a role in mediating the Suez Crisis but would find it tougher to bring peace in Vietnam. Dewey was reelected in 1960 over former Vice President Stevenson. Senator Humphrey was nominated by the Democrats in Atlantic City. He selected Senator John F. Kennedy for Vice President. In the Republican primaries, Barry Goldwater win a upset victory over Vice President Morse in California. By the time the Republican convention began in San Francisco, no candidate clinched the nomination. After two ballots, Nelson Rockefeller and William Scranton released their delegates who voted for Morse and clinching the nomination. The conservative delegates demanded that Morse pick Goldwater as his running mate, which President Dewey opposed. Although Morse selected Senator Margaret Chase Smith (R-ME), the delegates forced a roll call vote. Smith barely won the delegate vote for VP over Goldwater. When Smith spoke before the convention, the delegates walked out in protest. By election day, Humphrey won a landslide victory over Morse. HHH won every Southern state except Mississippi and South Carolina, which were carried by States Rights Democrat Strom Thurmond. Morse won only the states of Oregon (barely), Vermont, Maine and Wyoming.

Reagan gets assassinated and HW Bush is president (1981-1985)
HW gets hit with a recession and he is blamed and loses to Bob Dole in the primary
Bob Dole         (1985-1993)
 
No 1987 October stock market melt down, no Bill Clinton Dukakis speach.

Mario Cuomo  (1993-2001)

FDR follows the two- term tradition
POD FDR does not run for a third term in 1940.
Cordell Hull (D-TN) (1941-1949)
Claude Pepper (D-FL) (1949-1953)
Thomas Dewey (R-NY) (1953-1961)
Edmund "Pat" Brown (D-CA) (1961-1969)
Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY) (1969-1977)
Reubin Askew (D-FL) (1977-1981)
Howard Baker (R-TN) (1981-1989) (
Phil Crane (R-IL) (1989-1993)
Jerry Brown (D-CA) (1993-2001)
Orrin Hatch (R-UT) (2001-2009)
Douglas Wilder (D-VA) (2009-

Watergate Breaks Early
37. Richard M. Nixon(R-CA): January 20th 1969-January 20th 1973*
38.  George S. McGovern (D-SD): January 20th 1973-January 20th 1977*
39. Ronald W. Reagan (R-CA): January 20th 1977-March 30th 1981*
40. Edward Brooke(R-MA): March 20th 1981-January 20th 1985*
41. Gary Hart (D-CA): January 20th 1985-January 20th 1993*
42. Dan Quayle (R-ID): January 20th 1993-January 20th 1997*
43. Geraldine Ferraro (D-NY): January 20th 1997-January 20th 2005*
44. Lincoln Chafee (R-RI): January 20th 2005-???

Quayle ? ???

Was it a mistake, or is Quayle meant to be from Idaho instead of Indiana in that scenario?

Just A Hearbeat Away

41. George H.W. Bush (R-TX): January 20th 1989-May 5th 1991*
42. James D. “Dan” Quayle (R-IN): May 5th 1991-January 20th 1993*
43. Mario Cuomo (D-NY): January 20th 1993-January 20th 2001*
44. Sam A. Nunn Jr, (D-GA): January 20th 2001-January 20th 2005*
45. John E. “Jeb” Bush (R-FL): January 20th 2005-January 20th 2009*
46. Harold Ford Jr. (D-TN): January 20th 2009-???*

Notes

41. On May 5th 1991, while on a normal morning jog President Bush suffered from an atrial fibrillation due to his hyperthyroidism. However ITTL, Bush instead has congestive heart failure and is not able to resuscitate. Dan Quayle is sworn in as the 42nd President by the evening soon after the late President was declared dead.

42. In the first days of the “Quayle” administration, it soon became apparent that Dan was to handle the rest of Bush’s term as a Caretaker President. This was especially true after he appointed Secretary of State James Baker as his Vice President. Yet he soon became the darling of the Social made Conservative base within his party, which made him decide to run for his own term as President. Quayle is challenged by New Jersey Governor Tom Kean to represent the moderate wing of the party. The 42nd President sweeps the South, the Midwest and a couple Industrial states which enable him to clinch the nomination.

43. The “Hamlet on the Hudson” made his decision in the fall of 1991 that he decided to seek the nomination of his party against the perceived weak candidate of President Quayle. Although both Quayle and Perot tried to portray Cuomo as to Liberal for the country, due to effective party split with moderate Republicans backing Perot. Cuomo would walk away from the election 342-171-25. The former Governor of New York, has a very successful Presidency bringing about Health Care Reform, A “Fair trade Agreement” with Canada/Mexico, and winning a landslide victory over former Vice President James Baker in the 1996 Election.

44. Vice President Sam Nunn won an incredibly narrow victory over moderate Arizona Senator John McCain as voter’s supported for what they saw as essentially Cuomo’s third term. Although he had an extremely high public support for his aggressive execution of the War on Terror after the Al Qaeda Terrorist Attacks. Yet Gridlock in Congress, fears over his age, and the want for change after 12 years of Democratic rule allows for President Nunn to be defeated by son of the late President George H.W. Bush and Florida Governor Jeb Bush.

45. Running on a platform of Change, John E. “Jeb” Bush was sworn in as the 45th President of the United States. Although immensely popular at the start of his first term, his fumble of not providing fast enough relief in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, a failed policy in Afghanistan, and a Congressional showdown over Social Security reform, already made his reelection chances pretty dim. After barley gathering enough delegates to clinch the nomination, the economy crashes due to the economic policies pursued by the Cuomo and Nunn administrations. He is defeated in his bid for Re-election by the young, African American Governor from Tennessee…Harold Ford Jr.

46. The First African American and Generation X President…Harold Ford Jr. scored a resounding victory in November of 2008 against President Bush. The young Congressman won a narrow victory for the Tennessee Governorship in 2002, which propelled him against frontrunner Andrew Cuomo for the nomination.

Taft in 1952 is victorious and dies later, no Nixon no watergate.

1953-1957 Robert A. Taft
1953-1957 E. Warren
1961-1969 LBJ
1969-1977 Albert Gore Sr.
1977-1985 Bob Dole
1985-1989 Howard Baker
1989-1997 Dick Gephardt
1997-2001 Joe Biden
2001-2009 John McCain
2009-current John Forbes Kerry

Jerry Brown (D-CA) (1977-1981)
Bob Dole (R-KS) (1981-1989)
Jack Kemp (R-NY) (1989-1993)
Al Gore (D-TN) (1993-2001)
John McCain (R-AZ) (2001-2009)
Joe Biden (D-DE) (2009-

What is the POD?

There isnt one. Thats just for fun.

Hey...Heres one I wipped up based on DUBYAWELUVYA's America's Black President Timeline which is based on the POD that Nixon goes with Massachusetts Senator Edward Brooke as his replacement for Agnew.

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Edward Brooke TL continued.

37. Richard M. Nixon (R-NY): January 20th 1969-August 9th 1974*
38. Edward W. Brooke III (R-MA): August 9th 1974-January 20th 1977*
39. Henry M. “Scoop” Jackson (D-WA): January 20th 1977-September 1st 1983*
40. Dale Bumpers (D-AR): September 1st 1983-January 20th 1989*
41. Jack Kemp (R-NY): January 20th 1989-January 20th 1997*
42. Douglas Wilder (D-VA): January 20th 1997-October 25th 2002*
43. Albert A. “Al” Gore Jr. (D-TN): October 25th 2002-January 20th 2005*
44. John Engler (R-MI): January 20th 2005-???*

Notes;

37. Events the same as in DUBYWELUBYA's Timeline

38. Events the same as in DUBYWELUBYA'S Timeline

39. Has a much more successful presidency than OTL Carter’s, his long tenure as Senator from Washington gives him the advantage of getting a lot of his domestic agenda through Congress. A rather heavy handed yet successful extraction of the Hostages in Iran early in 1980 allows Scoop to rap up the nomination without any major challenges. With the rally around the flag effect outweighing the economy, Scoop is able to win a fairly comfortable win over Ronald Reagan in the General Election. President Jackson’s approval ratings drop during the midst of the 1982 Recession (Jackson still appoints Volcker to the FED, so it’s the same economic news). The 71 year old President would be found dead at his oval office desk from an aortic aneurism after giving a speech condemning the Soviet attack on Korean Air Lines Flight 007.

40. With his oratorical skills, personal charm and outsider image…the nation’s 40th President was able to portray himself as a smart capable leader in the weeks following President Jackson’s death. This and the fact that the economy had began to turn around ensured his landslide victory over the moderate ticket of George H.W. Bush and Paul Laxalt in the 1984 General Election. He would largely be remembered as the President whose discussions with Secretary Gorbachev ensured the end of the Soviet Union and the Cold War.

41. The First President to win the White House straight from the US House of Representatives since James Garfield in the 1880 Presidential Election. Running on a change platform and as an Economic Conservative and Social libertarian, Kemp won the election over the scandal ridden Vice President Gary Hart on comfortable margin. A quick and Successful end to the Persian Gulf War in 1991 and an Economic Recovery act in 1992 helped ensure his resounding victory over former Vice President Tsongas in the 1992 General Election. He would end his term an extremely popular President, as he left office in 1997 with a 65% approval rating.

42. Vice-President Pat Robertson on the other hand, was not so lucky…after barely surviving a strong Primary challenge by the moderate wing of the GOP in New Jersey Governor Tom Kean. Many moderates within the party, swamped to the charismatic yet populist campaign of Governor Douglas Wilder of Virginia. This would ensure an incredibly narrow victory over Robertson, and enable Wilder to become the first African American to be elected President of the United States. In office Wilder pursues a rather centrist policy working with the Republican Senate to get a majority of his agenda passed. Wilder would win a second term against the reform-minded Senator John McCain in the 2000 General Election. However, while on the campaign trail for the 2002 Congressional Election, The 71 year old President would be assassinated when a Van loaded with explosives crashed into a High School Gymnasium where President Wilder was holding a Town-Hall.

43. President Gore would be most memorable for successfully pursuing the War on Terror after the Al-Qaeda sponsored attack on the late President Wilder. However, his push for environmentalist reforms and serious Congressional deadlock would ensure to the confusing results of the 2004 Election. Although winning the Popular Vote, President Gore would loose the state of Ohio to Michigan Governor John Engler in the Electoral College, thus giving him the Presidency.

44. Although President Engler came into office without the popular support of the people, his economic revitalization plan for the Rust Belt secured him a victory over Illinois Senator Hillary Rodham in the 2008 General Election.

35th:Richard Nixon 1961-1963
36th:Henry C. Lodge 1963-1969
37th:George McGovern 1969-1977
38th:Edmund Muskie 1977-1981
39th:George H. W. Bush 1981-1989
40th:Bob Dole 1989-1993
41th:Bill Clinton 1993-2001
42th:George W. Bush 2001-2009
43th:Barack Obama 2009-

39th:Morris K. Udall 1977-1985
40th:Dale Bumpers 1985-1993
41th:Bob Dole 1993-2001
42th:Dick Gephardt 2001-2005
43th:John McCain 2005-2009
44th:John Edwards 2009-

40:Ronald Reagan 1981-1989
41:Bob Dole 1989-1993
42:Bill Clinton 1993-2001
43:Albert Gore 2001-2009
44:Jeb Bush 2009 -

40: Ronald Reagan 1981-1989
41: Alexander Haig 1989-1990
Nuclear Annihilation of Humanity August 21st 1990

Haha, yeah.

Grover Cleveland (1893-1897)
Todd Lincoln (1897-1905)
WH Taft  (1905-1909)
Charles Hughes (1909-1917)
Wilson (1917-1925)
HF Stone (1925-1929)
HC Hoover (1929-1933)

The rest follows history

With the exception of Taft, Hoover, and Cleveland, I would have voted for everyone of them

Alexander Haig=Nuclear Destruction

Works everytime!

35th:Estes Kefauver 1961-1963
36th:Pat Brown 1963-1969
37th:Richard Nixon 1969-1974
38th:Gerald Ford 1974-1977
39th:Jimmy Carter 1977-1981
40th:Robert Finch 1981-1989
41th:Bob Dole 1989-1993
42th:Jerry Brown 1993-2001
43th:John McCain  2001-2009
44th:John Edwards 2009-

29th:Warren G. Harding 1921-1925
30th:William G. McAdoo 1925-1933
31th:Herbert Hoover 1933-1949
32th:Thomas E. Dewey 1949-1953
33th:Richard Russell 1953-1961
34th:Nelson Rockefeller 1961-1969
35th:Eugene McCarthy 1969-1977
36th:Jerry Brown 1977-1981
37th:Howard Baker 1981-1989
38th:George H. W. Bush 1989-1993
39th:Tom Harkin 1993-2001
40th:Al Gore 2001-2005
41th:John McCain 2005-2009
42th:Tom Vilsack 2009-

37th:Richard Nixon 1969-1973
38th:George McGovern 1973-1977
39th:Ronald Reagan 1977-1981
40th:George McGovern 1981-1985
41th:Mike Gravel 1985-1993
42th:Chuck Grassley 1993-2001
43th:Dan Quayle  2001-2005
44th:Howard Dean 2005-2009
45th:Rudy Giuliani 2009-

LOL Original, George's back !

32th:Franklin Roosevelt 1933–1945
33th:Henry A. Wallace 1945-1949
34th:Douglas MacArthur 1949-1957
35th:Richard Nixon 1957-1994
36th:Dick Cheney 1994-1997
37th:John McCain 1997-2001
38th:Chuck Hagel 2001-2005
39th:Jeb Bush 2005-2009
40th:Skip Humphrey 2009-

???

Here's one possibility resulting from JFK living - it's a bit of a "second order" counterfactual, whereby a familiar pattern reasserts itself. (Using the regular "red=R," "blue=D" scheme)

35. John F. Kennedy (D, 1961-1969)
36. Lyndon B. Johnson (D, 1969-1973)
37. Nelson A. Rockefeller (R, 1973-1977)
38. Edward M. Kennedy (D, 1977-1981)
39. Ronald Reagan (R, 1981-1989)
40. Richard Lugar (R, 1989-1993)
41. William J. "Bill" Clinton (D, 1993-2001)
42. John S. McCain, III (R, 2001-2009)
43. Barack Obama (D, 2009-present)

My one ( I did a mini-timeline ) was that :

Kennedy : 1961-1969
Johnson : 1969-1973
Rockefeller : 1973-1977
Reagan : 1977-1985
G. H. W. Bush : 1985-1989
Gore : 1989-1997
J. Bush : 1997-2001
Dean : 2001-2009
McCain : 2009-



Wow, Nixon president for limetime ? :o

Ok here's the list based on my unfinished mini TL, which was based on the POD that Rocky wins the '64 nomination, leaving Goldwater to take the '68 nomination and the Presidency

36. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX): November 22nd 1963-January 20th 1969
37. Barry Goldwater (R-AZ):  January 20th 1969-April 10th 1972*
38. Spiro Agnew (R-MD): April 10th 1972-October 10th 1973**
39. Margaret Chase Smith (R-ME): October 10th 1973-January 20th 1977
40. Ronald Reagan (R-CA): January 20th 1977-January 20th 1981
41. John H. Glenn Jr. (D-OH): January 20th 1981-January 20th 1989
42. Edmund G. “Jerry” Brown (D-CA): January 20th 1989-January 20th 1993
43. Barry Goldwater Jr. (R-AZ): January 20th 1993-January 20th 2001
44. Andrew Young (D-GA): January 20th 2001-January 20th 2009
45. Hillary Rodham-Goldwater (R-FL): January 20th 2009-???

Notes

37. Assasinated by Arthur Bremer while on the campaign trail
38. Resigned the Presidency after discovery of bribery charges

Ok...here is the list of Presidents for my second unfinished MiniTL, Rocky's Road...About a Rockefeller Presidential Dynasty

Rocky's Road

34. Dwight “Ike” Eisenhower (R-NY): January 20th 1953-January 20th 1961
35. Nelson A. “Rocky” Rockefeller (R-NY): January 20th 1961-October 1st 1962*
36. Roman Hruska (R-NE): October 1st 1962-January 20th 1965
37. Hubert H. Humphrey (D-MN): January 20th 1965-January 20th 1969
38. Winthrop Rockefeller (R-AK): January 20th 1969-Febuary 22nd 1973*
39. Robert P. Griffin (R-MI): February 22nd 1973-January 20th 1981
40. Lawton M. Chiles Jr. (D-FL): January 20th 1981-January 20th 1989
41. Hugh Carey (D-NY): January 20th 1989-January 20th 1993
42. James D. “Dan” Quayle (R-IN): January 20th 1993-January 20th 1997
43. Colin Powell (D-NY): January 20th 1997-January 20th 2005
44. Winthrop P. Rockefeller (R-AK): January 20th 2005-July 16th 2006*
45. Olympia Snowe (R-ME): July 16th 2006-???

Notes.

35. Rocky is assasinated by a White Segregationist, while escorting James Meredith to the University of Mississippi.
38. Winthrop dies of Pancreatic cancer as IOTL.
44. Wintrhop Paul dies of Myeloproliferative disease as IOTL.

LOL That is great ! :D

A little different Bradley effect is the POD.

The Bradley Effect

41st: George H.W. Bush (1989-1993) Republican
42nd: Thomas J. "Tom" Bradley (1993-1998) Democrat*
43rd: Bob Kerrey (1998-2001) Democrat
44th: John S. McCain III (2001-2009) Republican
45th: Francis A. "Frank" Keating (2009-??) Republican

41: Tom Bradley was elected Governor in 1982 and reelected Governor in the following 1986 Gubernatorial Election. After this, Governor Bradley would be swayed to make a Presidential run in 1992, Bradley would push himself through the primaries to the nomination. In the General Election he would win against incumbent President Bush. Bradley then became the first even African American to serve as President. Bradley would serve with honor, being reelected in 1996 but in 1998 his life was cut short after a suprise heart attack killed President Bradley and put Vice President Kerrey into office.

Just a dumb little though of a near continual Bush/Clinton dynasty in America.

Monarchical Democracy

41. George H.W. Bush (1989-1993) Republican
42. William J. "Bill" Clinton (1993-2001) Democrat
43. George W. Bush (2001-2009) Republican
44. Hillary R. Clinton (2009-2017) Democrat
45. John E. "Jeb" Bush (2017-2025) Republican
46. Chelsea C. Kane (2025-2033) Democrat
47. George P. Bush (2033-2041) Republican
48. Manuel "Manny" Brantley (2041-??) Independent*

48. After 52 Years of Bushism/Cintonite rule, American turns to the more obscure politician Senator Brantley to lead the nation. Calling on reform and change for the American Republic during the 2040 Presidential Election and reamending the Constitution to allow President to just serve two terms once again and other major reforms, "Manny" Brantley would become the 48th President of the United States come January.

POD Nixon wins in 1960.

Richard Nixon (R-CA) (1961-1969)
Hubert Humphrey (D-MN) (1969-1977)
Edmund Muskie (D-ME) (1977-1981)
George H.W. Bush (R-TX) (1981-1989)
Phil Crane (R-IL) (1989-1993)
Bill Clinton (D-AR) (1993-2001)
George W. Bush (R-TX) (2001-2009)
Barack Obama (D-IL) (2009-

New Progressives

30. Calvin Coolidge (1923-1925) R
31. Robert LaFollette Sr (1925) P*
32. Burton Wheeler (1925-1929) P/D*
33. Charles Curtis (1929-1933) R
34. Franklin D. Roosevelt (1933-1945) D*
35. Henry A. Wallace (1945-1949) D/P*
36. Thomas Dewey (1949-1957) R
37. Earl Warren (1957-1962) R*
38. Leverett Saltonstall (1962-1965) R
39. Hubert Humphrey (1965-1973) D
40. John Ashbrook (1973-1977) R
41. Bronson LaFollette (1977-1981) D
42. Bob Dole (1981) R*
43. Howard Baker (1981-1989) R
44. Bruce Babbit (1989-1993) D
45. Jack Kemp (1993-2001) R
46. John McCain (2001) R*
47. Fred Thompson (2001-2005) R*
48. John Edwards (2005-??) D*

31. LaFollette dies in 1925 of Cardiovascular Disease like OTL

32. Wheeler takes over the presidency and is luke warm at it, in 1928 Wheeler runs for the Democratic nomination after declaring himself a half breed "Democratic-Progressive" candidate for President. He fails and takes his candidacy to a Progressive ticket.

34. Roosevelt is elected in 1933 and dies in 1945 like in OTL but keeps Henry Wallace as VP.

35. Henry A. Wallace becomes President and has a hard time working with Congress, this leads to a "Boot Wallace" at the Democratic Convention in 1948 and succeeds. Wallace then runs on a Progressive third party ticket for the Presidency.

37. Earl Warren serves as VP under Dewey and succeeds Dewey as President in the 1956 Election. After reelection in 1960, President Warren is shot by a pro segregationist supporters when visiting Alabama to meet with MLK.

42. After winning the 1980 Election, Dole becomes the next victim of "Tecumseh's Curse" after only a short time in office.

46. President McCain also becomes another victim of "Tecumseh's Curse" a short time in office.

47. VP Fred Thompson is thrusted into an uneasy time as shortly after taking office, "9/11" occurs and shakes the nations and sends the nation into a war in Afghanistan.  After the waiting and pressure on Iraq and Saddam Hussein by the Thompson Administration, unsatisfaction built as Thompson's approval ratings fell.

48. Democrats would fight in the primaries as John Edwards and Howard Dean fought it out for the nomination, ultimately leading Edwards to win and some progressive Democrats to try and get Dean to run as a third party candidate in the election. Edwards played up the dissatisfaction with the Thompson Administration and won in 2004. He would win reelection in 2008 in a very close race as the economy began to go down hill and allegations of affairs by Edwards on his cancer stricken wife would crop up. Come 2009, the allegations turned into facts as a sentiment for Impeachment for President Edwards began to grow in Congress....

Something I came up with in two minutes. Reagan gets the nomination in 1976.
Ronald Wilson Reagan (R-CA), 1977-1981
Lloyd Millard Bentsen (D-TX), 1981-1989
Albert Arnold "Al" Gore (D-TN), 1989-1993
John Sidney McCain (R-AZ), 1993-2001
Howard Brush Dean (D-VT), 2001-2005
Thomas Joseph Ridge (R-PA), 2005-2009
Barack Hussein Obama (D-IL), 2009-

Here is if Spanish-American War Veteran and American Hero, won the Democratic Nomination in 1900 and unseated Mckinley for the Presidency.

25. William McKinnely (R-OH): March 4th 1897-March 4th 1901
26. George Dewey (D-VT): March 4th 1901-January 16th 1904*
27. Charles A. Towne (D-MN): January 16th 1904-March 4th 1913
28. Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY): March 4th 1913-January 6th 1919*
29. Hiram Johnson (R-CA): January 6th 1919-March 4th 1921
30. Thomas R. Marshall (D-IN): March 4th 1921-June 1st 1925*
31. Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY): June 1st 1925-March 4th 1933
32. Herbert Hoover (R-CA): March 4th 1933-January 20th 1941
33. Theodore Roosevelt II (R-NY): January 20th 1941-July 12th 1944*
34. Arthur H. Vandenberg (R-MI): July 12th 1944-January 20th 1949
35. Henry A. Wallace (D-IA): January 20th 1949-January 20th 1957
36. W. Averell Harriman (D-NY): January 20th 1957-January 20th 1961
37. Cecil H. Underwood (R-WV): January 20th 1961-Feburary 12th 1964*
38. Everett McKinley Dirksen (R-IL): February 12th 1964-January 20th 1969
39. Joseph Patrick Kennedy Jr.  (D-MA):  January 20th 1969-August 12th 1974*
40. George Smathers (D-FL): August 12th 1974-January 20th 1981
41. Robert H. Finch (R-CA): January 20th 1981-January 20th 1989
42. Howard Baker (R-TN): January 20th 1989-January 20th 1993
43. John D. “Jay” Rockefeller IV (D-WV): January 20th 1993-January 20th 2001
44. John S. McCain III (R-AZ): January 20th 2001-January 20th 2009
45. Michelle Robinson-Jordan (D-IL): January 20th 2009-???*

Notes.

26. Assassinated by Leon Czolgosz
28. Dies in his sleep of a coronary embolism as IOTL.
30. Dies in Office as IOTL.
33. Dies of a heart attack while in office.
37. Assassinated by a White Segregationist in Mobile, Alabama
39. Dies in an Air Force One Plane Crash.
45. First Female, African-American President(An Alt version of OTL Michelle Obama)

President and Vice President rules (both on same ticket, ascendancy, plus a rule on assigning a new VP) are set at the Constitutional Convention. 12th Amendment is never passed due to it not being needed. The two term rule is univerally accepted by all presidents. Lots of controversy in this timeline to the point where there is a joke made about going to the White House:"White House:Because smoking and drinking aren't the only bad things for your health!" This is pretty long so I'll have to do another post to finish off the notes.
1. John Hancock(MA)/John Jay(NY) (Federalist) 1789-1793
2.Thomas Pinckney(SC)/Alexander Hamilton(VA) 1793-1801 (Federalist)*
3.Thomas Jefferson(VA)/George Clinton(NY) 1801-1809/(Democratic-Republican)
4. James Madison(VA)/John Q. Adams(MA) 1809-1817 (Democratic-Republican)*
5.James Monroe(VA)/Daniel D. Tompkins(NY) 1817-1825 (Democratic Republican)*
6.John Q. Adams(MA)/William Crawford(GA) 1825-1828 (Democratic Republican)1828-1829 (Democratic)
7.Henry Clay(KY)/Richard Rush(PA) 1829-1833 (National Republican)
8.William Smith(SC)/Andrew Jackson(TN) 1833 (Democratic)*
9.Andrew Jackson(TN)/Martin Van Buren(NY) 1833-1841 (Democratic)
10.Daniel Webster(MA)/John Tyler(VA) 1841-1845 (Whig)
11.Martin Van Buren(NY)/John Fairfield(ME) 1845-1850 (Democratic)*
12.John Fairfield(ME)/Franklin Pierce(NH) 1850-1853 (Democratic)
13.Stephen A Douglas(IL)/Jefferson Davis(MS) 1853-1857 (Democratic)
14.John C Fremont(CA)/Abraham Lincoln(IL) 1857-1864 (Republican)*
15.Abraham Lincoln(IL)/Ulysses S. Grant(OH) 1864-1865 (Republican)*
16.Ulysses S. Grant(OH)/Schuyler Colfax(IN) 1865-1873 (Republican)*
17.Benjamin Gratz Brown(MO)/Andrew G. Curtin(PA) 1873-1874 (Liberal Republican) 1874-1881 (Republican)*
18.Andrew G. Curtin(PA)/Blanche Kelso Bruce(MS) 1881 (Republican)*
19.Blanche Kelso Bruce(MS)/Marshall Jewell(CT) 1881-1885 (Republican)
20.Grover Cleveland(NY)/Thomas A Hendricks(IN) 1885/Adlai E Stevenson I(IL) 1885-1893 (Democrat)
21.Adlai E Stevenson I(IL)/Arthur P. Gorman(MD) 1893-1897 (Democrat)
22.Williams Jenning Bryan(NE)/Arthur Sewall(ME) 1897-1900/Thomas Edward Watson(GA) 1900-1901 (Democrat)*
23.William McKinley(OH)/Thomas B. Reed(ME) 1901 (Republican) *
24.Thomas B. Reed(ME)/Theodore Roosevelt(NY) 1901-1902 (Republican)*
25.Theodore Roosevelt(NY)/Charles W. Fairbanks(IN) 1902-1905 (Republican)*
26.William Howard Taft(OH)/Chales W. Fairbanks(IN) 1905-1909/James S. Sherman(NY) 1909-1913 (Republican)
27.Theodore Roosevelt(NY)/Hiram Johnson(CA) 1913-1919 (Progressive)*
28.Hiram Johnson(CA)/Robert M. LaFollette(WI) 1919-1921 (Progressive)
29.Warren G. Harding(OH)/Calvin Coolidge(MA) 1921-1923 (Republican)
30.Calvin Coolidge(MA)/Frank O. Lowden(IL) 1923-1929 (Republican)
31.Herbert Hoover(IA)/Charles Curtis(KS) 1929-1933 (Republican)
32.Franklin Delano Roosevelt(NY)/Robert M. La Follette Jr.(WI) 1933-1937 (Progressive)*
33.Robert M. La Follette Jr.(WI)/Henry Wallace(IA) 1937-1945 (Progressive)
34.Henry Wallace(IA)/Glen H. Taylor(ID) 1945-1953 (Progressive)
35.Thomas E. Dewey(NY)/Earl Warren(CA) 1953-1961 (Republican)
36.Nelson Rockefeller(NY)/Richard Nixon(CA) 1961-1965 (Republican)*
37.Richard Nixon(CA)/Margaret Chase Smith(ME) 1965-1969 (Republican)*
38.Eugene McCarthy(MN)/George McGovern(SD) 1969-1977 (Progressive)
39.Frank Church(ID)/Fred Harris(OK) 1977-1981 (Progressive)
40.Robert F. Kennedy(MA)/Llyod Bentsen(TX) 1981-1983 (Democratic)*
41.Llyod Bentsen(TX)/Morris Udall(AZ) 1983-1989 (Democratic)
42.Gary Hart(CO)/Bill Clinton(AR) 1989-1993 (Democratic)*
43.Jerry Brown(CA)/Paul Tsongas(MA) 1993-1997/Al Gore(TN) 1997-2001 (Republican)*
44.Ralph Nader(CT)/Winona LaDuke(MN) 2001-2005 (Progressive)
45.John McCain(AZ)/Sam Brownback(KS) 2005-2009 (Democratic)
46.Steven Kubby(CA)/Jesse Ventura(MN) 2009-present (Liberty)*

Notes:
2.Due to his failing health, president Hancock decides not to run for re-election. The young Thomas Pinckney is seen as the compromise candidate at election and wins. He is noted for being a pretty young president at a time when most elected officials were in their late 50's or early 60's. So was his Vice President, Alexander Hamilton, who may have been as young as 37 on the day he moved into office.
4. John Q. Adams, unlike IOTL, is a pretty solid Democratic-Republican (which disappointed his father quite a bit). In fact the only thing he has in common with the Federalist (major issue wise) is being against war with Great Britain in 1812. Thanks to some political manuevering on Adams part (including personally visiting the King and Queen at Buckingham Palace), war between the US and Great Britain was averted. However, his reputation as peace maker couldn't help him win the nomination against the very popular James Monroe.
5. James Monroe is as popular in this timeline as he was in ours, winning the election of 1816 in a huge landslide. The Era of Good Feelings is pretty much the same except that James Monroe wins re-election unamiously.
8. William Smith, the oldest man ever elected president, died only a few months in office due to heart complications. His successor, Andrew Jackson, would be well loved by the people but widely reviled by Congress.
11. Martin Van Buren finally becomes president, however he is much older and the tolls of the office drastically affect his health. He dies five years after taking office and his successor screws up his anti-slavery agenda (which sounds eerily like the Liberty Party’s platform).
14. Fremont pretty much becomes what Abraham Lincoln becomes in our time line except that: the civil war starts about 3 years early, martial law is not declared, and the draft, while still enforced, is nowhere near as excessive as IOTL. Oh and he dies from a stomach virus at the age of 51, becoming one of if not the youngest president to die in office.
15. Still gets shot.
16. Goes from Union General to Vice President to President in like a year or so time. Talk about quick advancement! The radicals don’t fare so well in this timeline though…….
17. After the out of control antics of the Radical Republicans over the past eight years, the populace decided to go with the Liberal Republicans, who promised a return to sane republicanism and to remove the military governments from the southern states. About two years after forming the party would break up since a majority of the party already were more aligned with the Liberal Republicans than the Radical Republicans.
18. When VP Andrew G. Curtin clinched the nomination for president, the Republican National Committee suprised everyone by electing Blanche Bruce, an african american senator from Mississippit, as the nominee for Vice President. When the ticket of Curtin and Bruce won, the KKK started panicking up a storm and plotted ways to dispose of the then widely reviled Vice President. When they go their chance Curtin accidently slipped and fell right into the bullet meant for Bruce. Now instead of a freedmen sympathesizer as president, the KKK and their ilk had their greatest fear come true: a free black man as US president.
22. This is where the chaos begins. For all you Bryan fans out there, Bryan becomes president and not only is he president, he’s the youngest president at the age of 36 (just one year over the requirement, booyah!). He lightens up a bit on his bimetallism issue (still goes through with it). His first VP dies of natural causes. 2nd VP is only in office for a year before Bryan gets kicked out by the Republicans, and this is where the real fun begins:
23. The compromise ticket of William McKinley and Thomas Brackett Reed is made to appease both the conservatives and progressives within the Republican party. William McKinley wins election 1900, too bad he won it a term later than he did IRL, lol. He dies just like he did IOTL, but even more chaos would ensue only a year later.
24. Thomas B. Reed, sworn into office as the 23rd president of the United States, appoints the young Governor of New York, Theodore Roosevelt, a fellow Progressive, to be Vice President. Reed would die suddenly of a heart attack on December 7, 1902. Roosevelt would be sworn in as president just five hours after.

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25. The Taft faction is too strong in this timeline and Teddy is president for only two years, but considering what happened the past two presidencies, he's lucky to even be alive! People start making jokes about how many presidents and vice presidents die in office.
27. Teddy creates the Progressive Party and it becomes WAY stronger than IOTL. It will become so strong that in fact it becomes the third major party throughout the rest of the century. In fact, it will hold majorities in the house and senate for parts of the century. Because of them the Democrats don’t have another president until THE FRIGGIN 80’S! Anyway back to Teddy: Teddy still gets shot while campaigning, he survives but it affects his heart. Eventually it tears and he dies a very painful death and Hiram Johnson succeeds him as president.
32. Progressive juniors retake the white house but FDR’s polio is way worse than it was IOTL and he only survives for four years before succumbing to it again….a month before his first term in office was complete.
36. If you haven’t guessed by now the Republicans have become the moderate party of the three party political system. John Kennedy doesn’t succeed in this timeline, so sorry. Rockefeller decides not to run for another term in office because of the media revealing his affair outside of marriage, but nobody cares but the Democrats….who are still the conservative populist party of the late 1800’s but a bit less racist than IOTL since segregation was done away with under Henry Wallace’s first term in office.
37. First female Vice President. As in real life Nixon does some nasty tricks on his opponents, but they backfire during election season and the leftist ticket of Eugene McCarthy and George McGovern benefit greatly from the controversy and pull off one of the biggest electoral upsets in US history over the car salesman-like Richard Nixon and the Democrats own extremely charismatic John F. Kennedy, who at the time seemed the most likely to get into office. In a time when conservative-populist politics were having a resurgency, the Progressives winning the presidency was a huge shock. Their luck wasn't that great in the Congress, as the Progressives stayed in the minority in both houses. Alliances with both parties over paricular issues (economic issues w/Democrats, social issues w/Republicans).
38. Immediately after getting into office McCarthy and McGovern both appear before the press and declare that all US forces in Vietnam will be brought home immediately. The US pulls out of Vietnam in as little as a month and a half (Progressives and Republicans are the majority opposition with a few renegade Democrats). The fact that this administration doesn't waver on the issues they campaigned on and actually goes through with them helps McCarthy/McGovern win the 1972 election in a landslide with 48% of the vote (win every state except for Maine (R), New Hampshire (R), Kansas (R), Wyoming (R), Alabama (D), and Mississippi (D) which is incredible in this timeline where there are two other major competiting political parties to worry about).
40. Robert Kennedy becomes the dream candidate for the Democratic party and helps them reclaim the big house for America’s first party. He is a bit of a moderate for a Democrat, he favors environmental protection laws, supports affirmative action laws, and reducing the tax burden on the upper and middle classes. However he is very tough on crime and foreign policy. This is kind of a Fluke of the Gods rip-off but Kennedy pulls off a Watergate like move that screws him over big time and he becomes the very first president to be impeached. His vice president, also pretty moderate Lloyd Bentsen, becomes this universe’s Reagan.
41. Lloyd Bentsen proves to be hugely popular IOTL. He and Morris Udall (who's quite liberal for a Democrat) pull off an upset win (considered upset because he was the successor to a corrupt president Kennedy) over the Progressive ticket of former vice president Fred Harris of Oklahoma/US Representative Bill Clay of the 1st congressional district of Missouri and the Republican ticket of Senate Majority leader Joseph Biden of Delaware/former US Senator Birch Bayh of Indiana. The success of the Bentsen/Udall administration would lead to the ascension of the moderate wing of the Democratic party to party leadership and help give the ticket of Gary Hart/Bill Clinton an electoral landslide over the Republican ticket of US Senator George HW Bush of Connecticut/US House Majority Leader Dick Gephardt of Missouri with 56% of the popular vote and every state except for Maine (R) and the the District of Columbia (P).
42. Gary Hart is just as much a New Democrat in this timeline as IOTL, so is Bill Clinton, but for different reasons. In fact, Pat Buchanan criticizes both Hart and Clinton in his Culture War speech delivered on the campaign trail in 92 saying there was little difference between them and the average Republican. These guys get screwed over big time, both metaphorically and literally. Around the beginning of October 1992, a photographer reveals some nasty news about Gary Hart. The very next week someone comes in and tells about how Bill-o had his way with some staffers. Both counts end up being true and both men get slaughtered during election season. Hell, at least they helped get the Liberty candidate some votes! People jokingly call this the “party hard” administration. Major setback for the Democrats in a time when setbacks are the very last things they need…….
43. Jerry Brown and Paul Tsongas run on a civil libertarian and economic reform platform. They bring the Republican party a bit back towards the center than they were under Rockefeller and Nixon. Kind of like Clinton and Gore, but not really. Tsongas dies from liver failure just 3 days before Brown’s second inauguration. So at the very last minute Brown brings in……Al Gore, to be vice president.
44. With actual “leftists” having a voice in government through the “Progressive Party”, Ralph Nader actually has a chance and does win the election of 2000. And the headline news? “Nader Stole Florida” details how Nader took a strong Republican state and turned it Progressive.
46. The Liberty party was formed in 1992 by Edward Clark (former Libertarian Party candidate from 1980 election who got over 8,400,000 popular votes and won Alaska, Idaho, Wyoming, and Montana which arguably cost the Republicans the election), Harry Browne, and Ross Perot. Imagine a fusion between the Reform Party and the Libertarian Party and it being on steroids. The Liberty party gets into office by placing blame on unnecessary government intervention into the economy by the Nader and McCain administrations and the excessive spending on pointless wars overseas for causing the economic meltdown. Steven Kubby is the first president to take medical marijuana on a daily basis.

Call me crazy, but I'm contemplating making a What-If scenario based off of this.

Here is my new list....Based on if "Fighting Bob" LaFollete would have finally won the Presidency in the 1924 Election under the Progressive Party

30. Calvin Coolidge (R-MA): August 2nd 1923-March 4th 1925
31. Robert M. Lafollette Sr. (P-WI): March 4th-June 20th 1925*
32. Burton K. Wheeler (P-MT): June 20th 1925-March 4th 1933
33. Huey P. Long Jr. (D-LA): March 4th 1933-September 10th 1935*
34. William Gibbs McAdoo Jr (D-CA) September 10th 1935-January 20th 1941
35. Theodore Roosevelt II (P-NY): January 20th 1941-July 12th 1944*
36. Phillip “Phil” Lafollette (P-WI): July 12th 1944-January 20th 1953
37. Joseph P. “Joe” Kennedy Sr. (D-MA): January 20th 1953-December 19th 1961*
38. J. William Fullbright (D-AK): December 19th 1961-January 20th 1965
39. Nelson A. Rockefeller (P-NY): January 20th 1965-January 20th 1973
40. Carl Curtis (P-NE): January 20th 1973-January 20th 1977
41. Edwin W. Edwards (D-LA): January 20th 1973-January 20th 1981
42. Robert F. “Bobby” Kennedy (D-NY): January 20th 1981-June 6th 1988*
43. Frances “Sissy” Farenthold (D-TX): June 6th 1988-January 20th 1993
44. John D. “Jay” Rockefeller IV (P-WV): January 20th 1993-January 20th 2001
45. Bill Bradley (P-NJ): January 20th 2001-November 22nd 2003*
46. Carol Mosley Braun (P-IL): November 22nd 2003-January 20th 2005
47. Richard A. “Dick” Gephardt (D-MO): January 20th 2005-???

Notes.

31. Died of Cardiovascular disease while in office, as per in OTL
33. Assassinated by Carl Austin Weiss in Baton Rouge, Louisana
35. Died of a heart attack while in Office.
37. 1st President to break the Washington tradition, as he won a third term for the Presidency at age 72. He would die in office, from complications of a massive stroke.
38. Assassinated while on the campaign trail for Vice President Farenthold.
45. Died of an Anthrax related complications during an Islamic Fundamentalist terrorist attack.

My list :

Coolidge wins in 1920

1921-1929 : Calvin Coolidge (R-MA) / Thomas Sterling (R-SD)
1929-1933 : Thomas Sterling (R-SD) / Charles Curtis (R-KS) *
1933-1933 : Albert Ritchie (D-MD) / FDR (D-NY) *
1933-1941 : FDR (D-NY) / Harry Truman (D-MA)
1941-1949 : Henry Cabot Lodge Junior  (R-MA) / Leverett Saltonstall (R-MA)
1949-1957 : Harry Truman (D-MO) / Henry Wallace (D-IA)
1957-1965 : Dwight Eisenhower (R-NY) / Harold Stassen (R-MN)
1965-1973 : John F. Kennedy (D-MA) / Jimmy Carter (D-GA)
1973-1977 : Richard Nixon (R-CA) / Roman Hruska (R-NE) *
1977-1981 : Jimmy Carter (D-GA) / Walter Mondale (D-MN)
1981-1989 : Ronald Reagan (R-CA) / George H.W Bush (R-TX)
1989-1993 : Jack Kemp (R-NY) / Dick Cheney (R-TX) *
1993-2001 : Bob Graham (D-FL) / Bill Clinton (D-AR)


That's it for now.

* Sterling was diagnosed with a fatal lung illness in 1930. He doesn't run for a 2nd term. Dies on Jan 20 1933
* Ritchie is shot on May 12th 1933. Dies on spot

* No watergate for Nixon ,Nixon just decided he should retire
* Jack Kemp had been diagnosed with Cancer in 1991. He doesn't run for a 2nd term , he lives until 2009.

Henry Cabot Lodge Jr cannot pick a running mate from the same state.

Oh crap forgot about that.

Ok here is a list..if Congressman Anderson was able to win the 1980 election.

39. James “Jimmy” Carter (D-GA): January 20th 1977-January 20th 1981
40. John B. Anderson (I-IL): January 20th 1981-January 20th 1985
41. George H. W. Bush (R-TX): January 20th 1985-January 20th 1993
42. Mario Cuomo (D-NY): January 20th 1993-January 20th 2001
43. Douglas Wilder (D-VA): January 20th 2001-January 20th 2005
44. John E. “Jeb” Bush (R-FL): January 20th 2005-January 20th 2009
45. Michael R. Bloomberg (I-NY): January 20th 2009-???

Here's a list based on the POD that General Leonard Wood was able to rest away the nomination from Harding at the 1920 Convention.

28. Woodrow Wilson (D-NJ): March 4th 1913-March 4th 1921
29. Leonard Wood (R-NH): March 4th 1921-August 7th 1927*
30. Frank O. Lowden (R-IL): August 7th 1927-March 4th 1933
31. Hugh S. Johnson (D-KS): March 4th 1933-April 15th 1942*
32. Claude D. Pepper (D-FL): April 15th 1942-January 20th 1949
33. Douglas MacArthur (R-AK): January 20th 1949-January 20th 1957
34. Alfred E. Driscoll (R-NJ): January 20th 1957-January 20th 1961
35. Joseph P. Kennedy Jr. (D-MA): January 20th 1961-August 12th 1964*
36. Albert B. “Happy” Chandler (D-KY): August 12th 1964-January 20th 1969
37. Robert B. Anderson (R-TX): January 20th 1969-August 14th 1973**
38. James A. Rhodes (R-OH): August 14th 1973-January 20th 1977
39. Henry M. “Scoop” Jackson (D-WA): January 20th 1977-September 1st 1983*
40. Daniel “Chappie” James Jr. (D-FL): September 1st 1983-January 20th 1989
41. Marion G. “Pat” Robertson (R-VA): January 20th 1989-January 20th 1997
42. Lynne Cheney (R-WY): January 20th 1997-January 20th 2001
43. Gary Locke (D-WA): January 20th 2001-December 7th 2006*
45. Zell B. Miller (D-GA): December 7th 2006-January 20th 2009
46. Rudolph “Rudy” Giuliani (R-NY): January 20th 2009-???

Notes.

29. Died in office due to complications of Surgery for a brain tumor
31. Died in office
35. Died in a tragic plane crash, while on the campaign trail.
37. Resigned the Presidency due to criminal misconduct, and alcoholism
39. Died in office of an aortic aneurism
43. Assassinated in a Terrorist Bomb Attack

Chappie James died in 1978.

How could Pat Robertson ever win the GOP nomination?

What If.......?

Another Civil War arose , and the  states that seceded won the war. There are now 2 countries

First the years of the war (2009-2014)

Now for the map after the war :

()

Green  states are the New country (The Democracy of Texas)
Blue states  are the U.S.A


U.S.A  Presidents :

Barack Obama (Liberal-IL) / Joe Biden (Liberal-DE) 2009-2017 *Term limits destroyed
Andrew Cuomo (Liberal-NY) / Hillary Clinton (Liberal-NY) 2017-2025)
Eric Cantor (Conservative-VA) / Shelley Moore Capito (Conservative-WV) 2025-2029
Andrew Lanza (Conservative-NY) / Kristen Gillibrand (Conservative-NY) (2029-2033)
Chelsea Clinton Moore (Liberal-NY) / Beau Biden (Liberal-WV) (2033-2041)
 Levi Johnston (Moderate-Oregon) / Aaron Schock (Moderate-IL) (2041-2049)



Democracy of Texas Prime Ministers :
Rick Perry (R-TX) / Sarah Palin (R-AK) 2009-2017) * Maximum terms allowed is 3)
Sarah Palin (R-AK) / Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (R-SD) 2017-2025
Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (R-SD) / Bobby Jindal (R-LA) 2025-2033)
Kay Hagan (P-NC) / Bev Perdue (P-NC) 2033-2041)
George P. Bush (R-TN) / Joshua Clinton (R-TX) 2041-2049 *


* Joshua CLinton is fictional son of Chelsea Clinton.

I don't think ive ever done a RFK Lives list...well here it goes...

36. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX): November 22nd 1963-January 20th 1969
37. Robert F. “Bobby” Kennedy (D-NY): January 20th 1969-May 15th 1972*
38. Ralph W. Yarborough (D-TX): May 15th 1972-January 20th 1977
39. Howard H. Baker Jr. (R-TN): January 20th 1977-March 30th 1981*
40. James L. Buckley (R-NY): March 30th 1981-January 20th 1989
41. Charles S. “Chuck” Robb (D-VA): January 20th 1989-January 20th 1993
42. Newton L. “Newt” Gingrich (R-GA):  January 20th 1993-January 20th 2001
43. Warren Beatty (D-CA): January 20th 2001-March 30 1983*
44. Ronald “Ron” Kirk (D-TX): March 30th 2003-January 20th 2009
45. Willard Mitt Romney (R-MA): January 20th 2009-???

Notes.

37. Assassinated by Arthur Bremer while on the campaign trail in Laurel, Maryland.
39. Assassinated by John Hinckley Jr. in Washington D.C.
43. Died in office of congestive heart failure.

Beatty/Kirk definitely would have made an interesting ticket.

I'm a bit late, but very impressive, Mechaman.

1965-1969 : Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY) / Gerald Ford (R-MI)
1969-1973 : George McGovern (D-SD) / RFK (D-NY)
1973-1975 : Gerald Ford (R-MI) / Ronald Reagan (R-CA) *Ford is shot and dies
1975-1985 : Ronald Reagan (R-CA) / Richard Nixon (R-CA)
1985-1993 : George H.W. Bush (R-TX) / Howard Baker (R-TN)
1993-2001 : Bob Graham (D-FL) / Zell Miller (D-GA)

Wow. First I was surprised that a crazy conservative like you chose a Rockefeller presidency as the start of a timeline. But looking at the 20 years of continuous republican presidency that you imagine, I understand better.

Ok everyone here is my newest ALT President list: POD...Willkie wins the 1940 Election.

32. Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY): March 4th 1933-January 20th 1941
33. Wendell L. Willkie (R-NY): January 20th 1941-October 8th 1944*
34. Arthur Vandenberg (R-MI): October 8th 1944-January 20th 1949
35. James Roosevelt (D-NY): January 20th 1949-January 20th 1953
36. Earl Warren (R-CA): January 20th 1953-January 20th 1961
37. Estes Kefauver (D-TN): January 20th 1961- August 10th 1963*
38. Joseph P. Kennedy II (D-MA): August 10th 1963-January 20th 1969
39. George Romney (R-MI): January 20th 1969-January 20th 1977
40. Frank F. Church II (D-ID): January 20th 1977-April 7th 1984*
41. Benjamin O’ Davis Jr (D-DC): April 7th 1984-January 20th 1988
42. Donald H. Rumsfeld (R-IL): January 20th 1988-January 20th 1993
43. Joseph R. “Bob” Kerry (D-NE): January 20th 1993-January 20th 2001
44. John R. Kasich (R-OH): January 20th 2001-October 3rd 2002*
45. Lynn Morley Martin (R-IL): October 3rd 2002-January 20th 2009
46. William B. “Bill” Richardson III (D-NM): January 20th 2009-???

Notes.

33. Died in office of a massive heart attack.
37. Died in office of a massive heart attack.
40. Died in office from complications of pancreatic cancer.
44. Assassinated while on the campaign trail for Congressional candidates via Sniper fire

Santorum elected president? SWEEEEEETTTT :)

Thanks! I decided to go ape and make a from the very beginning list of alternate presidents. When I have a ton of free time on my hand I'll probably start making the storyline. I'm probably going to have to do it in segments though, and I'm not really adept at early US history so I'm going to have to do a ton of research on Wikipedia. I always found US history (before 1860) to be pretty boring. It took me 7 hours just to think of alternate presidents and come up with the notes.
I think I may begin with the election of 1796 with a preface of the whole presidential succession rule covered at the Continental Congress to avoid future incidents.
Pretty much the Federalist party are still total douchebags, the Democratic-Republican Party still becomes the one party state and breaks into different parties. The National Republican party gets one candidate into office, as does the Whig party. The Democratic Party is a lot more split over the slave issue than IOTL. Democrats like Martin Van Buren, Lewis Cass, and even Franklin Pierce were occasional critics of the slave system. However, men like John Fairfield, Stephen A. Douglas, Jefferson Davis, and James Buchanan (who the nickname "doughface" was widely used) helped pass through legislation that pretty much reversed the flow of the emancipation movement of the 1840's. Pretty much almost every Republican opposes the continuation of slavery with John Fremont going further and proclaiming that blacks and whites should live in peace, harmony, and freedom in the same society. After the Civil War the Democrats become the conservative populist party and the Republicans become the classically liberal party. Democrats favor policies that favor the poor white man and are for restrictive laws against the black man like IOTL. The Republicans are for full civil rights for all races, women's suffrage (gets passed way early under the tenure of Kelso Blanche), strong supporters of civil liberties, and favor a free market system (free trade, low taxes), but with some progressives forming within the ranks in concern to the growth of corporations. Early on the progressive movement isn't as strong as IRL, but throughout the 20th century it would be a great deal stronger than IOTL.
In the 20th century the Progressive Party is formed and becomes the third big party in American politics. Unlike the so called "progressive American left", this party is actually pretty left. It's as left as most European leftist parties IOTL today as a matter of fact. Leftism would be quite a bit more popular than IOTL.
During the late 20th century, two minor parties, the Libertarian Party and the Reform Party would have some noticeable electoral success. Eventually the two parties decide that they'd be most effective if joined. Thus the "Liberty Party" was formed in 1992, members of the Liberty Party are simply called "Libertarians". This party would become the moderate libertarian party.
Small overview.

Here's a quick list I just put together this morning...POD, that Ronald Reagan due to his age decides not to run for the nomination and the presidency in 1980. John M. Ashbrook, Ohio Congressman and 1972 Primary Opponent to Nixon, decides to run in his place and is able to assemble enough support to clinch the nomination...

The Ashbrook Revolution

39. James E. “Jimmy” Carter Jr. (D-GA): January 20th 1977-January 20th 1981
40. John M. Ashbrook (R-OH): January 20th 1981-April 24th 1982*
41. Howard H. Baker Jr (R-TN): April 24th 1982-January 20th 1989
42. Jean Spencer Ashbrook (R-OH): January 20th 1989-January 20th 1993
43. Albert A. “Al” Gore Jr. (D-TN): January 20th 1993-January 20th 2001
44. Gary L. Bauer (R-KY): January 20th 2001-May 10th 2005*
45. John S. McCain III (R-AZ): May 10th 2005-January 20th 2009
46. Clarence Ray Nagin Jr. (D-LA): January 20th 2009-???

Notes.

41. Died suddenly in office of a massive gastric hemorrhage
44. Assassinated in a grenade-caused explosion in Tbilisi, Georgia thrown by Vladimir Arutyunian

The Symington Dynasty

35th: W. Stuart Symington (1961-1963) Democrat*
36th: John F. Kennedy (1963-1968) Democrat*
37th: John McCormack (1968-1969) Democrat
38th: Richard Nixon (1969-1974) Republican
39th: John Connally (1974-1981) Republican
40th: James W. Symington (1981) Democrat*
41st: John Glenn (1981-1989) Democrat
42nd: Robert "Bob" Dole (1989-1997) Republican
43rd: J. Fife Symington III (1997-1998) Republican*
44th: Lamar Alexander (1998-2001) Republican
45th: Paul Wellstone (2001-2003) Democrat*
46th: Harvey Gantt (2003-2009) Democrat*
47th: Kay Bay Hutchison (2009-???) Republican

35: Stuart Symington would decide to run int the primaries and after campaigning in primary states and non primary states, Symington would amass a large number of delegates. The Convention was a toss up as either Kennedy or Symington were the main challengers in the primaries and had the most delegates but some suspected a compromise candidate could take the nomination. Symington won the nomination in a close ballot and would offer the Vice Presidency to John F. Kennedy in a courtesy move and Kennedy surprisingly accepted. With the strange pairing, the Symington/Kennedy ticket won against the Nixon/Lodge in the super close election of 1960. Symington would be sworn in and would serve as a good President until after going to the south would have consequences as segregationists assassinated President Symington in a dastardly move and put Kennedy in office.

36: Vice President Kennedy came into office with the assassination of President Symington and would serve out the remainder of the slain President's term. Kennedy would be elected in his own right in 1964 against Nelson Rockefeller. Come Kennedy's first elected term, marital problems came up and that led to allegations at first of affairs between Kennedy and a number of women. The facts began to appear more readily until Congress began to call for impeachment of the quickly becoming unpopular Kennedy. President Kennedy would instead decide to resign from office.

40: Senator James Symington of Missouri would make his way to the Democratic Nomination in 1980 and would win against incumbent President Connally in a fairly close race. President Symington would only be in office for a short time when crazed man John Hinckley Jr would assassinate the President. Vice President Glenn would succeed him as President.

43: Governor Fife Symington of Arizona would run for the 1996 Republican Nomination after Dole's Vice President opted out of a run. Fife Symington would be the dark horse in the race but pulled off suprising wins and won the nomination. Symington won in a close election over the Democrats. During the 1996 Election, rumors of money laundering were floating around about Symington and when he got into office, allegations and evidence to back this up began to surface in 1997 and after a "Year of Hell" for Symington, resigned in 1998.

45: Senator Paul Wellstone defeated President Alexander in a close margin. Wellstone would lead the nation in uncertain times and would also die in 2003 of cancer. This sent the nation into mourning as Vice President Gantt succeeded Wellstone.

46: Harvey Gantt became the first African American President and would lead the nation through the War on Terror. After a close victory over John McCain in 2004, Gantt would be a good president for the remainder of his term.

47: Senator Kay B. Hutchison was elected the first ever Female President over Senator Joe Biden. Her Presidency has yet to be determined.

Those unlucky Symingtons.

My dream

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WTF

Fallwell was a Democrat for much of his life. He became a Republican the same time a lot of southerners did (mid to late 1960s). But yeah, GOP FTW, those are not strong tls

Here's a new list...Based on the POD that Governor Earl Warren openly campaigns in the 1948 primaries, and is able to clinch the nomination away from Dewey. He then is able to beat Truman, Thurmond and Wallace in the 1948 Election.

Warren's World

33. Harry S. Truman (D-MO): April 12th 1945-January 20th 1949
34. Earl Warren (R-CA): January 20th 1949-January 20th 1957
35. Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (R-MA): January 20th 1957-January 20th 1961
36. Adlai E. Stevenson II (D-IL): January 20th 1961-July 14th 1965*
37. Robert F. Wagner Jr. (D-NY): July 14th 1965-January 20th 1969
38. James A. “Jim” Rhodes (R-OH): January 20th 1969-January 20th 1973
39. Harold Hughes (D-IA): January 20th 1973-January 20th 1981
40. Charles H. “Chuck” Percy (R-IL): January 20th 1981-January 20th 1989
41. William E. “Bill” Brock III (R-TN): January 20th 1989-January 20th 1993
42. Richard A. “Dick” Gephardt (D-MO): January 20th 1993-January 20th 2001
43. John R. “Jock” McKernan Jr. (R-ME): January 20th 2001-January 20th 2009
44. James E. “Jim” Clyburn (D-SC): January 20th 2009-???*

Notes.

36. Died in office of a massive heart attack.
44. First African-American President

Here's a random one.

1921-1929 : Calvin Coolidge (R-MA) / Warren Harding (R-ND)
1929-1933 : Warren Harding (P-ND) / Herbert Hoover (P-OH) *
1933-1942 : FDR (D-NY) / Henry Wallace (D-IA) *
1942-1945 : Henry Wallace (D-IA) / Harry Truman (D-MO)
1945-1947 : Alf Landon (R-KS) / Robert Taft (R-OH) *
1947-1953 : Robert Taft (R-OH) / Barry Goldwater (R-AZ)
1953-1961 : Barry Goldwater (R-AZ) / Dwight Eisenhower (R-PA)
1961-1969 : JFK (D-MA) / Lyndon Johnson (D-TX)
1969-1970 : George McGovern (D-SD) / RFK (D-NY)*
1970-1977 : RFK (D-NY) / Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)
1977-1985 : Gerald Ford (R-MI) / Ronald Reagan (R-CA)
1985-1993 : Ronald Reagan (R-CA) / Jack Kemp (R-NY)
1993-1997 : George H.W Bush (R-TX) / Dan Quayle (R-IN)
1997-2005 : Bob Graham (D-FL) / Zell Miller (D-GA)
2005-2009 : Bill Clinton (D-AR) / Hillary Clinton (D-NY)
2009-Current : George W. Bush (R-TX) / Sarah Palin (R-AK)

*1933 : Harding was impeached for trying to rigg election of 1932, which he lost
*1942 : FDR Is shot by Nazi Supporter in Germany
*1947 : Landon killed self after  a assassin killed his family
*1970 : McGovern impeached for bribing GOP Congress to pass his agenda, then he lied about it
 
Also pres. who retired after one term :

Bill Clinton, left with 87% app.ratings
George Bush Senior, left with 72% App.Ratings
Robert Taft, left with 65% App. Ratings

Here's another :

Consequences of 2010 Midterm Elections :

2009-2013 : Barack Obama (D-IL) / Joe Biden (D-DE)
2013-2021 : Kay Bailey Hutchinson (R-TX) / Sarah Palin (R-AK)
2021-2025 : Bobby Jindal (R-LA) / John Thune (R-SD)
2025-current : Stephanie Herseth-Sandlin (D-SD) /  Chelsea Clinton Rogers (D-NJ) 

Ok here is a list based on if Al Smith was able to gain the nod again in 1932, and went on to win a narrow victory over Hoover.

31. Herbert Hoover (R-CA): March 4th 1929-March 4th 1933
32. Alfred E. “Al” Smith Jr. (D-NY): March 4th 1933-October 4th 1944*
33. Millard Evelyn Tidings (D-MD): October 4th 1944-January 20th 1949
34. John W. Bricker (R-OH): January 20th 1949-January 20th 1957
35. William Averell Harriman (D-NY): January 20th 1957-November 22nd 1963*
36. Albert A. Gore Sr. (D-TN): November 22nd 1963-January 20th 1969
37. William W. Scranton (R-PA): January 20th 1969-January 20th 1973
38.  William C. Westmoreland (R-SC): January 20th 1973-January 20th 1981
39.  Birch E. Bayh II (D-IN) January 20th 1981-November 1st 1985*
40. Frances T. “Sissy” Farenthold (D-TX) November 1st 1985- January 20th 1993*
41.  Jack F. Kemp (R-NY): January 20th 1993-January 20th 2001
42.  Andrew Young (D-GA): January 20th 2001-March 12th 2002*
43. Albert A. “Al” Gore Jr. (D-TN): March 12th 2002-January 20th 2009
44. William W. Scranton, III (R-PA): January 20th 2009-???

Notes.

32. Died in office of a massive heart attack
35. Assassinated by Lee Harvey Oswald in Dallas, Texas.
39. Assassinated by a crazed anti-nuclear weapons activist.
40. First Female President of the United States
42. First African-American President of the United States, also killed in a domestic terrorism bombing

Congratulations. This list just jumped the shark.

Ok here is my newest list...Based on if former First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt had accepted President Truman's offer of the VP slot during the 1948 Election.
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Eleanor's Day

33. Hary S. Truman (D-MO): April 12th 1945-November 1st 1950*
34. Eleanor Roosevelt (D-NY): November 1st 1950-January 20th 1953
35. Robert A. Taft (R-OH): January 20th-July 31st 1953*
36. Douglas MacArthur (R-AK): July 31st 1953-January 20th 1961
37. Frank G. Clement (D-TN): January 20th 1961-June 12th 1963*
38. Robert F. Wagner Jr. (D-NY): June 12th 1963-January 20th 1969
39. Nelson A. Rockefeller (R-NY): January 20th 1969-January 20th 1977
40. Edward M. “Ted” Kennedy (D-MA): January 20th 1977-January 20th 1981
41. John M. Ashbrook (R-OH): January 20th 1981-April 24th 1982*
42. John G. Tower (R-TX): April 24th 1982-January 20th 1989
43. Arlen Specter (R-PA): January 20th 1989-January 20th 1993
44. Kent Conrad (D-ND): January 20th 1993-January 20th 2001
45. Winthrop P. Rockefeller Jr. (R-AK): January 20th 2001-July 16th 2006*
46.  Richard G. “Dick” Lugar (R-IN): July 16th 2006-January 20th 2009
47. Robert C. “Bobby” Scott (D-VA): January 20th 2009-???

Notes.

33. President Truman is able to convince former First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt to run with him as his Vice Presidential Running mate. Her enormous popularity ensures an even more decisive victory of Dewey, Thurmond, and Wallace. However, due to butterflies…Harry S. Truman is assassinated by Puerto Rican nationalists Griselio Torresola and Oscar Collazo outside the Blair House on November 1st 1950.

34. Eleanor Roosevelt is sworn as the nation’s 34th and first Female President. Eleanor continued many of the New Deal Programs, doesn’t attempt to seize the Steel Mills and fought off calls from Joseph McCarthy about Communists in her administration. In dealing with the Korean War, she does not cross the 38th Parallel, which allowed the US to properly fund the Chinese to do the fighting for them. Despite her high approval ratings, Eleanor cites against running for a Second term in her own right, citing her age. Her lack of a Vice President leads to an incredibly divided National Convention in 1952.

35. Adlai Stevenson is able to clinch the Democratic Nomination away from Senator Estes Kefauver. The Republican National Convention was almost just as divided, as General Eisenhower declined the nomination. Senator Robert Taft would clinch the nomination after several rounds of balloting and choose General Douglas MacArthur as his running mate. The Taft/MacArthur ticket would go on to soundly defeat Stevenson in the General Election. However Bob Taft would not be able to institute many of his Conservative Reforms, when he died of a Brain Hemorrhage from complications of cancer, only seven months after being inaugurated.

36. Douglas MacArthur was sworn in as the nation’s 36th President, after the nation suffered its third Presidential death in less than ten years. President MacArthur would govern a relatively quiet and boring 1950’s much like OTL Eisenhower did. Although 76 years old, the Vigorous MacArthur decides to seek a second term and indeed wins it against New York Governor Averell Harriman. MacArthur leaves office with high approval ratings and as the nation’s oldest president at 80 years old.

37. In 1960, The Democrats needed a Young Moderate that could appeal to both the South and its growing ethnic strength in the Northeast. Due to his rapidly declining health Senator John F. Kennedy of Massachusetts, declined to seek the Presidency. The American People would turn to the 40 year old, Two-Term former Governor of Tennessee Frank G. Clement, who with the support of Lyndon B. Johnson and the Southern Bosses was able to clinch the nomination. For his running mate Clement chose chief Primary rival, the Catholic New York Senator Robert F. Wagner Jr. The Clement/Wagner ticket would win a narrow victory over Vice President Wayne Morse and his running mate Senator Roman Hruska of Nebraska. President Clement would handle things relatively like Jack did IOTL, even on Civil Rights. In the summer of 1963, in order to squelch the growing backlash against the Civil Rights movement, Clement did a Southern Listening Tour. On June 12th, in Jackson, Mississippi…President Clement would meet with NAACP Field Secretary Medger Evers, when both were assassinated by Byron de la Beckwith. He was only 43 years old.

38. Robert F. Wagner Jr. was sworn in as the nation’s first Catholic President and 38th President. After the assassination of Clement, Wagner felt as if something had to be done about Civil Rights, and after months of arm twisting…The Civil Rights Act of 1964 passed. Wagner, with his running mate Governor John Connally of Texas would win a landslide victory over the Nixon/Goldwater ticket. However, it would be a growing White Backlash against Urban rioters, Anti-War protests against his escalation of Vietnam and an increased Tax Burden due to a large number of his domestic programs that would ensure his defeat to fellow New Yorker, the Law and Order moderate Governor Nelson Rockefeller.

39. Nelson Rockefeller ascended the White House to fight a nation torn asunder, and he felt that he was just the man to unite it. His presidency, with his foreign policy guided by Henry Kissinger, would be almost identical to the policies pursued by OTL Nixon and Ford. He would win, despite being distracted by his increasingly ill brother Winthrop, a landslide victory over former Vice President Connally with his running mate Senator Ed Muskie. Yet a worsening economy and lack of personality would doom Vice President Dole’s chances of winning the Presidency, against the political Kennedy machine.

40. In the aftermath of the assassination of his brother Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy in 1968, Senator Edward M. Kennedy felt as if the weight of his father’s hopes rested in his shoulders. He finally convinced himself to run against the perceived weak Vice President Dole in the 1976 election. However during the Presidency, the young Teddy was not able to shake his playboy image, and a republican Congress shot down many of his attempts to pass Wagnerian Domestic Programs. Kennedy’s indecisiveness in dealing with the Iran Hostage Crisis effectively ended his chances of reelection against the fiery conservative ticket of Ohio Governor John Ashbrook and former Defense Secretary John Tower of Texas.

41. Former Ohio Congressman turned Governor in 1974; John M. Ashbrook quickly rose as the figurehead of the growing Conservative wing of the GOP. After sweeping the moderate opposition in the 1980 primaries, Ashbrook would clinch the nomination and choose former Senator and Secretary of Defense John Tower as his running mate. The Ashbrook/Tower ticket would soundly defeat Kennedy/Askew in the General Election. His Conservative Revolution was short lived as he died of a massive Gastric Hemorrhage while in office.

42. John Tower would take on the mantle of the Presidency after President Ashbrook’s sudden death and continue his conservative policies, whether that would Supply-side economics, a massive buildup of the US Military or hard balling the Soviets. His pick of moderate Senator Alen Specter of Pennsylvania as his running mate was crucial to his gargantuan victory over former Vice President Ruben Askew in the 1984 election. Questions over his alcoholism and womanizing would badly damage his approval ratings at the end of his second term. Vice President Specter worked hard to distance himself from the President’s personal issues, and was able to secure his own nomination and narrowly beat the gaffe prone Senator Joe Biden of Delaware.

43. The nation’s first Jewish President would receive high approval ratings in pursuit of his moderate approval ratings and his successful execution of solving the Persian Gulf Crisis. However, it would be Specter’s own party and the economy which would prove to be his downfall. A strong third party showing led by Conservative Patrick Buchanan weekend Specter’s already lukewarm support in the South threw the ’92 election to moderate-to-conservative Democrat…Senator Kent Conrad of North Dakota.

44. With his immense knowledge of Economic issues, Kent Conrad, a farm Baby Boomer from North Dakota was able to use that to his advantage in the 1992 General Election. Conrad’s 1st term was mainly hampered by a resurgent Republican congress in 1994, but he did manage to have a balanced federal budget by the end of his 1st term. Conrad in 1996 would go on to defeat former Vice President Donald Rumsfeld of Illinois in the General Election by a fairly comfortable margin. Conrad’s second term would even be more Republican-lite as he mostly dealt with the American response to the genocide in Kosovo and a push for Alternative energy sources. The President’s immense popularity upon leaving office was thought to guarantee Vice President Mckernan the 2000 election…that would turn out to not be the case.

45. Vice President John Mckernan would be denied in the Presidency not by the popular vote of America but in the House of Representatives. In the closest election in history, neither candidate received the necessary amount of electoral votes to win the Presidency as it was effectively tied. However since congress had been in GOP hands since ’95, their Delegations went for the moderate-to-conservative Arkansas Governor Winthrop Paul Rockefeller and his running mate Senator Dick Lugar of Indiana. Yet coming in to office without a mandate from the public and congressional deadlock caused Rockefeller to have a rough start at the Presidency. On March 30th 2003, catastrophe struck as Islamic Fundamentalist terrorist hijacked multiple airplanes and crashed them into several American monuments. President Rockefeller’s approval ratings would soar in the aftermath of the attacks and his successful persecution of his War on Terror would ensure his reelection against Senator Sam Nunn of Georgia in 2004. However On July 20, 2005, however, citing myeloproliferative disease, a blood disorder that could have developed into leukemia if left untreated, transferred his executive powers to Vice President Lugar. Rockefeller underwent several unsuccessful bone marrow transplants, and only almost a year later lost his battle with the disease on July 16th 2006.

46. Richard G. “Dick” Lugar would ascend to the Presidency, amid a nation consumed in grief and uncertainty. In the month’s following Rockefeller’s death Lugar would use the Presidency to try to get a number of treaties passed for the dismantling of nuclear, biological and chemical weapons with various nations. He would also push for subsidies for farmers to turn their corn into Ethanol to help wing America’s dependence of foreign oil. In the end Lugar’s advanced age, his lack of a successful conclusion in the War on Terror and a Recession brought on by both Conrad era and Rockefeller era economic policies. He would loose his bid for reelection in 2008 against former Virginia Governor Bobby Scott.

47. The first African American and the first with Filipino Ancestry, Robert C. “Bobby” Scott came into the office under a platform of Change. The former congressman became Virginia’s second African American Governor on January 12 2002 and campaigned on Welfare Reform, Solving the economic crisis and ending the War in Terror with honor.

LBJ suffers a fatal heart attack during the Gulf of Tonkin incident.

36. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX): November 22, 1963 to August 2, 1964
37. John McCormack (D-MA): August 2, 1964 to January 20, 1965
38. Hubert H. Humphrey (D-MN): January 20, 1965 to January 20, 1973
39. Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY): January 20, 1973 to February 2, 1979
40. John Tower (R-TX): February 2, 1979 to January 20, 1981
41. Robert F. Kennedy (D-NY): January 20, 1981 to January 20, 1989
42. Lawton Chiles (D-FL): January 20, 1989 to January 20, 1993
43. Jack Kemp (R-NY): January 20, 1993 to January 20, 1997
44. William J. Clinton (D-AK): January 20, 1997 to September 6, 2003
45. John F. Kerry (D-MA): September 6, 2003 to January 20, 2005
46. John S. McCain (R-AZ): January 20, 2005 to January 20, 2009
47. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-IL): January 20, 2009 to Present

37. With a vacancy in the Vice Presidency, Speaker of the House John McCormack was sworn into office with a major foreign policy crisis on his hands. After ording Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara to investigation, it was determined that no navy ships were attacked by the North Vietnamese. President McCormack announced this in his first televised address in the Oval Office and also announced that he would not be a candidate for President in 1964. At the Democratic National Convention in Atlantic City, NJ, Senator Hubert Humphrey was nominated on the first ballot. He selected Governor Terry Sanford of North Carolina, a southerner with a progressive record on education and civil rights. Humphrey would defeat Barry Goldwater in a landslide and add to the Democrats majorities in the House and Senate.

38. After being sworn into office, Humphrey would continue the Great Society programs begun by President Johnson. Humphrey would begin pulling American military advisors from Vietnam and authorize his Secretary of State J. William Fulbright to mediate in the conflict (instead of military action). With no military involvement in Vietnam or race riots in the cities, more money would be invested in the Great Society programs and enforcement of civil rights laws including the 1965 Voting Rights Act. The Republicans achieve minor gains in congressional races in 1966. Actor and Republican activist Ronald Reagan fell short in his race for Governor of California as incumbent Edmund G. "Pat" Brown was reelected. In 1968, President Humphrey was easily re-elected over former Vice President Richard Nixon and former Alabama Governor George Wallace, running as an independent. Nixon's criticisms over the increased spending of the Great Society fell on deaf ears. This would be Nixon's final political campaign.

39. Rockefeller won the White House back for the Republicans as he defeated Vice President Sanford, the Democratic nominee who won every southern state except Florida and Texas, home state of Rockefeller's running mate Senator John Tower. Rockefeller's liberalism in civil rights and social issues did not sit well with southern conservatives especially Senator Jesse Helms, who ran an independent campaign for President in 1976. By default, the Democrats nominated Governor Jerry Brown but he won only in Hawaii, Rhode Island and DC. Helms won in Mississippi, Alabama and Georgia. Rockefeller won the rest.

40. On February 2, 1979, John Tower was visiting John Conally in Texas when he learned that President Rockefeller suffered a heart attack in the Oval Office and died shortly thereafter. As President, Tower had to deal with a recession and rising inflation at home, an Iranian revolution and the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan. On the advice of Secretary of State Henry Kissinger and Vice President Robert Dole, Tower allowed the former Shah of Iran into the US for medical treatment. This resulted in the taking of hostages at the US Embassy on Teheran. An aborted rescue attempt by US Marines drove President Tower to the bottle (it was rumored that he had drinking problems for many years). On the campaign trails, Tower appeared visibly inebriated. After passing up races for President in 1972 and 1976, Bobby Kennedy threw his hat in the ring and was on his way to the nomination after winning the Iowa caucuses and New Hampshire primary. Former Governor Jimmy Carter of Georgia won most of the southern primaries but RFK clinched the party's nomination. Kennedy selected Senator Lawton Chiles as his running mate and promised Carter the job of National Security Advisor (became Secretary of Defense after Scoop Jackson died in 1983). The November 1980 election was a rout. Kennedy won 62 percent of the popular vote. Tower won his home state (barely) plus Alabama, Mississippi and Oklahoma: just 4 states. The Republicans having won control of the Senate in 1976, lost it to the Democrats in 1980. RFK had a mandate.

42. As President, Chiles handling of the war against Iraq in the Persian Gulf earned him an 89 percent popularity rating but that fell when he was unable to handle to recession and budget crises. Bob Dole, 1984 GOP nominee, decided not to run in 1992. Chiles was defeated for reelection by Senator Jack Kemp.

43. Although President Kemp entered 1996 with an economic recovery thanks to his tax and spending cuts, he decided not to run for re-election. To satisfy social conservatives and supporters of Speaker Newt Gingrich, Vice President Pete Wilson picked Tom DeLay as his running mate. The Republican convention in San Diego was noted for its hard right shrill tone and dubbed "Nuremberg in the Pacific." For the Democrats, former Governor Clinton scored an upset victory in the Iowa caucuses over former Vice President Michael Dukakis. Although Dukakis won the New Hampshire primary, the momentum was on Clinton's side as he swept the Super Tuesday primaries which forced Dukakis to suspend his campaign. When Clinton clinched the nomination, he selected Senator John Kerry as his running mate. Clinton enjoyed a comfortable victory that November over Wilson.

44. By 2000, Clinton balanced the budget and would win easy re-election over Florida Governor Jeb Bush. In his second term, Clinton dealt with the aftermath of 9/11/01. The US led an international military coalition that invaded Afghanistan and defeated Al Qaeda and the Taliban. By Christmas, British commandos captured Osama bin Laden in a cave at Tora Bora and turned him over to the US. Bin Laden was convicted and executed on March 13, 2003. Many Republicans demanded that Clinton invade Iraq and remove Saddam Hussein from power but he would not do that. The stress over the situation caused Clinton to have a heart attack and he died on September 6.

45. President Kerry continued Clinton's policies toward the Middle East and refused to invade Iraq. John McCain defeated Kerry in the 2004 election. Although Republicans won back control of the Senate, the Democrats picked up a Republican Senate seat in Illinois with the election of Bill Clinton's widow Hillary (she trounced Alan Keyes).

46. Shortly after his inauguration, McCain ordered the invasion of Iraq. While Saddam was removed from power, the troops were bogged down trying to keep the peace. Over 5,000 troops died after McCain declared mission accomplished. Senator Hillary Clinton breezed through the Democratic primaries in 2008 and defeated McCain that November.

Ok here is another quick list I whipped up based on if Humphrey had won the '68 election against Nixon and Wallace

All The Way with HHH

36. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX): November 22nd 1963-January 20th 1969
37. Hubert H. Humphrey (D-MN): January 20th 1969-January 20th 1973
38. Ronald W. Reagan (R-CA):  January 20th 1973-September 5th 1975*
39. Charles H. “Chuck” Percy (R-IL): September 5th 1975-January 20th 1981
40. Harold E. Hughes (D-IA): January 20th 1981-January 20th 1985
41. Paul D. Laxalt (R-NV): January 20th 1985-January 20th 1993
42. Jack F. Kemp (R-NY): January 20th 1993-January 20th 1997
43. Kent Conrad (D-ND): January 20th 1997-January 20th 2005
44. Colin L. Powell (R-NY): January 20th 2005-???*

Notes.

38. Assassinated by Lynette “Squeaky” Fromme in Sacramento, California.
44. First African American President

The Death of Conservatism

POD FDR dies in 1943.

Franklin Roosevelt (D-NY) (1933-1943)
Henry Wallace (D-IA) (1943-1945)
Thomas Dewey (R-NY) (1945-1953)
John Bricker (R-OH) (1953-1957)
Adlai Stevenson (D-IL) (1957-1965)
Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY) (1965-1973)
John Kennedy (D-MA) (1973-1981)
Robert Dole (R-KS) (1981-1989)
Jack Kemp (R-NY) (1989-1993)
Mario Cuomo (D-NY) (1993-2001)
Pete Wilson (R-CA) (2001-2009)
John Edwards (D-NC) (2009-

Both Kemp and Dole are conservatives.

My dream... :)

The Three Party system 1913-2009, this is kind of like 1913-2009 in my massive list, but a little different.

Theodore Roosevelt (NY)/Hiram Johnson (CA) (Progressive) (1913-1919)*
Hiram Johnson (CA)/Robert M. La Follette Sr. (WI) (Progressive) (1919-1925)
Calvin Coolidge (MA)/Frank Lowden (IA) (Republican) (1925-1929)
Herbert Hoover (IA)/Charles Curtis (KS) (Republican) (1929-1933)
Franklin Delano Roosevelt (NY)/Robert M. La Follette Jr. (WI) (Progressive) (1933-1937)*
Robert M. LaFollette Jr. (WI)/Henry Wallace (IA) (Progressive) (1937-1945)
Thomas Dewey (NY)/Harold Stassen (MN) (Republican) (1945-1953)
Robert S. Kerr (OK)/Estes Keyfauver(TN) (Democratic) (1953-1961)
Nelson Rockefeller (NY)/Richard Nixon (CA) (Republican) (1961-1965)*
John F. Kennedy (MA)/Daniel Brewster (MD) (Democratic) (1965-1967)*
Daniel Brewster (MD)/Hubert Humphrey (MN) (Democratic) (1967-1969)*
Eugene McCarthy (MN)/George McGovern (SD) (Progressive) (1969-1977)
Frank Church (ID)/Fred Harris (OK) (Progressive) (1977-1981)
Robert F. Kennedy (MA)/Lloyd Bentsen (TX) (Democratic) (1981-1983)*
Lloyd Bentsen (TX)/Howard Baker (TN) (Democratic) (1983-1989)
Howard Baker (TN)/Gary Hart (CO) (Democratic) (1989-1993)*
Paul Tsongas (MA)/Al Gore (TN) (Republican) (1993-1997)*
Al Gore (TN)/Bill Clinton (CA) (Republican) (1997-2005)*
Howard Dean (VT)/Russ Feingold (WI) (Progressive) (2005-2009)
Hillary Rodham Rubin (NY)/Bill Richardson (NM) (Democratic) (2009-present)*

Notes:
1. Teddy dies of heart complications
2. FDR's polio is much more severe than IOTL and he dies 3 days before being sworn in for his second term. Robert M. LaFollette Jr. is sworn in 5 hours later and shows up on inauguration day where there is a confused air about the place.
3. Like IOTL Rockefeller's affair with Happy is made public and that destroys his popularity. To save face and help Nixon's own presidential aspirations he announces he won't be seeking re-election. It wouldn't be enough though, as the very charismatic Democrat nominee John F. Kennedy would win election.
4. JFK gets assasinated during a parade on October 21st, 1967 in downtown Baltimore. A PI that was gathering info on JFK's hidden affairs and mafia dealings decides not to come out with the information out of respect for JFK's passing. Vice President Daniel Brewster is sworn in as president.
5. The revelation of Brewster getting bribes a week before election destroys his approval rating and he suffers a huge electoral defeat which results in the underdog Progressive ticket of McCarthy/McGovern to take the White House.
6. Robert F. Kennedy (pretty moderate for a Democrat, like his brother) benefits greatly from the legacy of his brother and the economic downturn of 1980 to regain the White House for the Democrats. A Watergate like scandal that occurs only 8 months into office would result in his impeachment by the US Congress in 1983 whereby his vice president, also moderate Lloyd Bentsen, becomes president. Bentsen would become the Ronald Reagan equivalent ITTL.
7. In January of 1992, the affair between Gary Hart and Donna Rice is revealed to the public. Being the conservative leaning party, this isn't a good breakthrough for the GOP. Public disapporval of the event goes against Howard Baker's re-election campaign and helps the ticket of Paul Tsongas/Al Gore take the White House for the Republicans for the first time in 28 years.
8. Tsongas dies of a liver failure just 3 days before Inauguration. Al Gore is sworn as president and Congress approves of the selection of California Governor Bill Clinton as Vice President. Clinton moved from Arkansas to California in the mid 70's to find legal work before becoming a US Representative (1978-1982), a US Senator (1982-1990) before becoming Governor (1990-1997). His lieutenant governor Gray Davis would succeed him as governor. His selection was very controversial due to his common law relationship with the significantly younger model Elaine Irwin (22 years his junior). On May 4th, 2001 Clinton and Irwin would finally tie the knot with Clinton’s son Steven (born 1968) as the best man and English supermodel Kate Moss as the maid of honor.
9. Hillary Rodham Rubin, the wife of former Secretary of Treasury Robert Rubin (1995-2001), becomes the first woman elected president. Her vice president, Bill Richardson, would become the first Hispanic vice president.

Here is a list based on if LBJ had picked Conneticut Senator Thomas Dodd instead of Humphrey for Vice President. Dodd is able to clinch the nomination and wins a narrow victory over Nixon and Wallace...Dodd is revealed for his corruption charges during his 1st term and resigns office before being impeached.

Doddamned

36. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX): November 22nd 1963-January 20th 1969
37. Thomas J. Dodd (D-CT): January 20th 1969-January 1st 1971**
38. Harold E. Hughes (D-IA): January 1st 1971-January 20th 1973
39. Ronald Reagan (R-CA): January 20th 1973-January 20th 1981
40. Hugh L. Carey (D-NY): January 20th 1981-January 20th 1985
41. Pierre S. “Pete” du Pont IV (R-DE): January 20th 1985-January 20th 1993
42. Larry L. Pressler (R-SD): January 20th 1993-January 20th 1997
43. Joseph P. Kennedy II (D-MA): January 20th 1997-January 20th 2005
44. Lynn C. Swann (R-PA): January 20th 2005-???*

Notes.

37. First President to Resign Office mainly due to corruption charges
44. First African-American President.

George H.W. Bush(R-TX)/James Danforth "Dan" Quayle (R-IN): 1989-1997
John F. Kerry (D-MA)/Evan Bayh (D-IN): 1997-2001
John Ellis "Jeb" Bush(R-FL)/John S. McCain (R-AZ): 2001-2005
John Edwards (D-NC)/Howard B. Dean (D-VT): 2001-2007**
Howard B. Dean (D-VT) 2007-2009
Wesley K. Clark(D-MO)/Barack H. Obama (D-IL):2009-?

**impeached

Great list ! :)

Thanks. I seem to be pretty good at making these :). I've always been intrigued by the possibility of a strong Progressive Party. I think American politics would've been alot more interesting if it actually had a legit leftist party, although I don't describe myself as one. I think a party that is legitly left would've challenged the other two more so than individual progressives in each party did.

Barack Obama/Joe Biden (2009-2017)
Haley Barbour/Sarah Palin (2017-2021)

Yawn. You have to do much better than that.

Agreed. ;)

1940's and onwards

Franklin Roosevelt (D-NY) / Henry Wallace (D-IA) (1933-1940) *
Henry Wallace (D-IA) / Harry Truman (D-MO) (1940-1941)
Harry Truman (D-MO) / Adlai Stevenson (D-IL) (1941-1945)
John S. McCain, Jr (R-NY) / George A. Wilson (R-IA) (1945-1953)
Barry Goldwater (R-AZ) / Dick Nixon (R-CA) (1953-1961)
John F. Kennedy (R-MA) / Henry Cabot Lodge (R-MA) (1961-1965)
Lyndon Johnson (D-TX) / Scoop Jackson (D-WA) (1965-1967) *
Scoop Jackson (D-WA) / Robert Kennedy (D-NY) (1967-1973)
George McGovern (D-SD) / Jimmy Carter (D-AL) (1973-1975) *
Jimmy Carter (D-AL) / None (1975-1977)*

*Republican Party dissolves*

Howard Baker (L) / Nelson Rockefeller (L) (1977-1981) L =Liberal

*World ends on Jan 14th 1981

Ive Always wanted to do a list based on a Lindbergh presidency in 1940...This is as close to distopia as my lists can get lol.

32. Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY): March 4th 1933-January 20th 1941
33. Charles Lindbergh (R-NY): January 20th 1941-April 12th 1945*
34. Dewey J. Short (R-MO): April 12th 1945-January 20th 1949
35. Scott W. Lucas (D-IL):  January 20th 1949-January 20th 1953
36. Henry C. Lodge Jr. (R-MA): January 20th 1953-January 20th 1961
37. William F. Knowland (R-CA): January 20th 1961-Febuary 23rd 1962*
38. Everett Dirksen (R-IL): February 23rd 1962-January 20th 1965
39. Matthew E. Welsh (D-IN): January 20th 1965-January 20th 1973
40. Daniel B. Brewster (D-MD): January 20th 1973-August 9th 1974**
41. Eugene J. “Gene” McCarthy (D-MN) August 9th 1974-January 20th 1977
42. Mark Hatfield (R-OR): January 20th 1977-January 20th 1981
43. Martin L. King Jr. (D-GA): January 20th 1981-April 4th 1988*
44. Gary Hart (D-CO): April 4th 1988-January 20th 1993
45. Joseph I. “Joe” Lieberman (R-CT) January 20th 1993-January 20th 2001*
46. June Carter Cash (D-VA): January 20th 2001-May 15th 2003*
47. James R. “Rick” Perry (D-TX): May 15th 2003-January 20th 2009
48. Antonio Villaraigosa (R-CA): January 20th 2009-???*

Notes.

33. Assassinated by German Espionage Agents during the height of the Pacific War.
37. Died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head, after the failed Bay of Pigs invasion into Cuba.
40. First to resign the Presidency due Bribery Charges while he was Senator and Vice President.
43. First African American President, Assassinated during the final year of his second term by a Neo-Nazi skinhead.
45. First Jewish President.
46. First Female President, Died in office due to complications following heart valve replacement surgery.
48. First Hispanic American President.

McCain in the white house :

1953-2021

* In 1948 : lowest age for president lowered to 30

1953-1959 : John S. McCain, Jr (R-NY) / Dwight Eisenhower (R-PA)
1959-1965 : Dwight Eisenhower (R-PA) / Roman Hruska (R-NE)
1965-1967 : John F. Kennedy (D-MA) / Frank Church (D-ID) *
1967-1973 : Frank Church (D-ID) / Bobby Kennedy (D-NY)
1973-1975 : Barry Goldwater (R-AZ) / Gerald Ford (R-NE) *
1975-1977 : Gerald Ford (R-NE) / Ronald Reagan (R-CA)
1977-1981 : Walter Mondale (D-MN) / George McGovern (D-SD)
1981-1989 : Ronald Reagan (R-CA) / Jack Kemp (R-NY)
1989-1997 : Al Gore (D-TN) / Joe Biden (D-DE)
1997-2005 : George W. Bush (R-TX) / Joe Lieberman (R-CT)
2005-2009 : Hillary R. Kerry (D-NY) / Bill Clinton (D-CA)
2009-2017 : John Thune (R-ND) / Denny Rehberg  (R-MT)
2017-Current : Sarah Palin (R-UT) / Bobby Jindal (R-TX)

*JFK dies of heart disease
* Goldwater disappeared after a plane crash in 1975
 

How did June become president?

Yes, how could the world live without the Republican Party ? :P

Robert Kennedy TL

Robert Kennedy/Ralph Yarborough: 1969-1977
Ronald Reagan/John Connally-1977-1985
Julian Bond/John Glenn: 1985-1989
Jack Kemp/Bob Dole: 1989-1993
Mario Cuomo/Al Gore: 1993-2001
Al Gore/Evan Bayh: 2001-2005
John McCain/Tommy Thompson: 2005-2009
Robert Kennedy Jr./Mark Warner

Gore wins in '88

41. Al Gore Jr (1989-1997) Democratic
42. Donald Rumsfeld (1997-2000) Republican
43. Phil Gramm (2000-2001) Republican
44. Paul Wellstone (2001-2005) Democratic
45. Rick Perry (2005-2009) Democratic
46. John McCain (2009-) Republican

Goldwater Waits Until 1968

36. Lyndon Johnson (D-TX): November 22, 1963-January 20, 1969
37. Richard Nixon (R-CA): January 20, 1969-August 9, 1974
38. Barry Goldwater (R-AZ): August 9, 1974-September 5, 1975
39. Ronald Reagan (R-CA): September 5, 1975-January 20, 1977
40. Jimmy Carter (D-GA): January 20, 1977-January 20, 1981
41. Robert Dole (R-KS): January 20, 1981-January 20, 1989
42. John Tower (R-TX): January 20, 1989-February 17, 1991
43. Jack Kemp (R-NY): February 17, 1991-January 20, 1993
44. Bill Clinton (D-AK): January 20, 1993-January 20, 2001
45. John McCain (R-AZ): January 20, 2001-December 20, 2006
46. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX): December 20, 2006-January 20, 2009
47. Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN): January 20, 2009-Present

36. Senator Goldwater stunned his conservative supporters when he announced that he would not be a candidate for President in 1964. In a private conversation with Arizona Governor Paul Fannin, Goldwater remarked that the election was over for the Republican when President Kennedy was assassinated. The Republicans would nominate Nelson Rockefeller for President and William Scranton for Vice President. Governor George Wallace of Alabama broke from the Democrats to run as the nominee of the American Independent party; he would win only in Mississippi, Georgia and his home state. President Johnson won his own term with 56 percent of the popular vote, Rockefeller had 40 percent and Wallace had 4 percent. In 1968, Goldwater threw his hat in the ring. Since primaries did not determine the parties' presidential nominees, former Vice President Nixon had the support of the GOP establishment (mostly in non-primary states). Goldwater was strongest in the Southern and interior Western states. Nixon clinched the nomination going into the convention and offered the nomination to Goldwater, which he accepted. Wallace decided not to run in 1968 and endorsed Nixon. Nixon swept the South and won a 44 state landslide over Hubert Humphrey.

37. President Nixon resigned over the Watergate scandal and was succeeded by Vice President Goldwater.

38. Once President Goldwater learned the extent of Nixon's involvement in Watergate, he announced that he would not pardon Nixon. In private, he told his wife that "anyone who would lie to Congress and his own wife is no good in my book." After the 1974 elections, Congress confirmed Ronald Reagan as Vice President.In foreign policy, President Goldwater replaced Henry Kissinger as Secretary of State with General William Westmoreland. With the might of the US Armed Forces, Goldwater ordered nonstop attacks on North Vietnam and Special Forces assaults on Viet Cong positions at the border between North and South Vietnam. On July 2, 1975, Goldwater ordered hydrogen bomb attacks on Hanoi that killed over a million people on the ground and destroyed every government building, resulting in the end of any effective Communist government there. With US air cover, South Vietnamese tanks entered Hanoi with little resistance on July 3. Vietnam was united and the South won. A united Vietnam would emerge as the dominant power in Indochina as it invaded Cambodia and Laos to prevent Communists from taking over. Back at home, Goldwater was criticized for dropping the hydrogen bomb and his popularity began to drop. While visiting Sacramento on September 5, 1975, Goldwater was shot in the head and died three hours later. The assassin, Lynette Fromme, was convicted and executed on March 4, 1977.

39. Ronald Reagan was sworn into office. He nominated Senator Robert Dole for Vice President. However, Reagan's inability to address rising inflation and the recession led to former Georgia Governor Jimmy Carter's election in 1976.

41. Bob Dole's victories in the 1980 Iowa caucus and New Hampshire primary made him the front runner and he never looked back. He selected Senator John Tower as his running mate. While Dole is regarded as a popular President, his balance the budget approach to the economy over tax cuts and increased spending on defense resulted in record high budget deficits.

42. John Tower and his running mate Jack Kemp would enjoy a comfortable victory over the Dukakis/Bentsen ticket in 1988. The stress of handling the Gulf War with Iraq and his alcoholism, a worst kept secret in politics, resulted in his fatal heart attack two weeks before the end of the Gulf War.

43. On February 28, 1991, President Kemp announced the victory over Iraq as it was forced out of Kuwait. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld wanted to continue to march into Baghdad and remove Saddam Hussein. But Kemp sided with General Colin Powell and overruled Rumsfeld. Kemp's popularity ratings peaked at 88 percent but the recession proved to be an Achilles heel.

45. John Warner, former Vice President (1991-1993) and unsuccesful 1996 Republican nominee, declined to run again in 2000. Senator John McCain made the race and won nearly every primary. He selected Texas Governor Kay Bailey Hutchison as his running mate. McCain defeated Vice President Gore in a landslide. President McCain was re-elected in 2004 thanks to succesfully leading the US-led coalition to victory over al Qaeda and the Taliban in the War on Terror in Afghanistan. Despite pleas from conservatives to invade Iraq, McCain refused to do so. Nevertheless, covert CIA gun running operations in the Shiite and Kurdish parts of Iraq led to a rebellion that overthrew Saddam in October 2004 and the triumphant return of Ahmed Chalabi to Baghdad. He was named provisional President of Iraq and elected in his own right in 2005. In his second term, McCain suffered a loss in political capital by invading Iran, which unlike Iraq had admitted having a nuclear program. After two months of warfare, American tanks entered Teheran on October 31, 2005. Newly elected Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad fled Teheran but was caught by British soldiers in Isfahan. But Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei chose a martyr's death as his basij militia bodyguards fought to the death in a gunfight with American Marines in Qom. Former President Abolhassan Banisadr returned to Teheran in January 2006 after nearly 25 years in exile in France. McCain allowed Banisadr to assume a provisional Presidency of Iran. However with American troops bogged down in Iran and fighting guerillas from the disbanded Revolutionary Guards, McCain's popularity fell and the Democrats regained its Congressional majorities after the Novermber 2006 elections. The stress of dealing with Iran led to a fatal heart attack for McCain.

46. Hutchison became the first female President of the United States and promised to continue McCain's policies. By November 2008, over 5,000 American troops died since the invasion of Iran. Former Vice President Gore decided to return to political life and easily breezed through the primaries. He selected Senator Barack Obama of Illinois as his running mate and promised to bring the troops home from Iran if elected President. Gore defeated Hutchison in a landslide as he swept the Northeast and run every Southern state (except Texas). Two weeks later, former Majlis Speaker Mehdi Karroubi, a moderate, was elected President of Iran after Banisadr decided to retire.

Here is a quick list a whiped up based on if President Carter was Assasinated in 1979...

Jimmie’s Gone

38. Gerald Ford (R-MI): August 9th 1974-January 20th 1977
39. James E. “Jimmy” Carter (D-GA): January 20th 1977-May 5th 1979*
40. Walter Mondale (D-MN): May 5th 1979-January 20th 1989
41. George Deukmejian (R-CA): January 20th 1989-January 20th 1997*
42. Nancy L. K. Baker (R-KA): January 20th 1997-January 20th 2001*
43. Julian Bond (D-GA): January 20th 2001-January 20th 2009*
44. Eric Cantor (R-VA): January 20th 2009-???*

Notes.

39. Assassinated by Raymond Lee Harvey in Los Angeles, California.
41. First Armenian-American President.
42. First Female President.
43. First African-American President.
44. First Jewish President.

Lyndon Johnson (D-TX) / Nelson Rockefeller (D-NY) 1963-1969
George Romney (R-MI) / Gerald Ford (R-MI) 1969-1977
Scoop Jackson (D-WA) / Jimmy Carter (D-AL) 1977-1979 *
Jimmy Carter (D-AL) / Walter Mondale (D-MN) 1979-1981
Ronald Reagan (R-CA) / Chic Hecht (R-NV) 1981-1989
Chic Hecht (R-NV) / Jack Kemp (R-NY) 1989-1997
Al Gore (D-TN) / Bob Graham(D-FL) 1997-2005
Joe Lieberman (D-CT) / John McCain (R-AZ) 2005-2006 *
John McCain (R-AZ) / George W. Bush (R-TX) 2006-2007 *
George W. Bush (R-TX) / Mike Huckabee (R-LA) 2007- Current

* Scoop Jackson dies of drug overdose. He overdosed on prescription drugs that were illegally given to him. Dr. Morgan Johs is now on Death Row for the death of Jackson
* Lieberman is killed by Tony Villgroasa, his Military aide.
* McCain dies after  visiting Gov. Schwarzenegger in California. He died of  a severe heart attack.

Here is a new list...Based on if Teddy never makes his promise not to seek a third term, and runs/wins the 1908 election.

Teddy's Game

25. William McKinley Jr. (R-OH): March 4th 1897-September 14th 1901
26. Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY): September 14th 1901-October 12th 1912*
27. Charles W. Fairbanks (R-IN):  October 12th 1912-March 4th 1913
28. Robert M. Lafollette (R-WI): March 4th 1913-March 4th 1917
29. James B. “Champ” Clark (D-MO): March 4th 1917-March 2nd 1921*
30. Judson Harmon (D-OH): March 2nd 1921-March 4th 1925
31. Hiram Johnson (R-CA): March 4th 1925-March 4th 1933
32. Albert C. Ritchie (D-MD): March 4th 1933-Feburary 23rd 1936*
33. William G. McAdoo (D-CA): February 23rd 1936-Feburary 1st 1941*
34. James A. “Jim” Farley (D-NY): February 1st 1941-January 20th 1949
35. Harold E. Stassen (R-MN): January 20th 1949-January 20th 1957
36. Earl Warren (R-CA): January 20th 1957-January 20th 1961
37. Robert B. Meyner (D-NJ): January 20th 1961-May 27th 1962*
38. J. William Fulbright (D-AK): May 27th 1962-January 20th 1969
39. William W. Scranton (R-PA): January 20th 1969-January 20th 1977
40. Robert C. Byrd (D-WV): January 20th 1977-January 20th 1981
41. Elliot L. Richardson (R-MA): January 20th 1981-December 30th 1985*
42. Robert H. Fitch (R-CA): December 30th 1985-January 20th 1989
43. Bruce E. Babbitt (D-AZ): January 20th 1989-January 20th 1997
44. Richard G. “Dick” Lugar (R-ID): January 20th 1997-January 20th 2001
45. Caroll A. Campbell Jr. (D-SC): January 20th 2001-December 7th 2005*
46. Arlen Specter (D-PA): December 7th 2005-January 20th 2009
47. Cory A. Booker (R-NJ): January 20th 2009-???*

Notes.

25. Assassinated as in OTL
26. Assassinated by John Schrank in Milwaukee, Wisconsin on the campaign trail for Republican nominee Senator Lafollette.   
29. Died in office.
32. Died in office due to a cerebral hemorrhage.
33. Died in office due to a massive heart attack. 
37. Assassinated by Richard Pavlick while vacationing in Palm Beach, Florida.
41. Assassinated by crazed Nuclear-freeze advocates in New York City, New York.
45. Died in office due to a massive heart attack.
47. First African American President.

A lot of people seem to die in your timelines Historico.

Go for it! I would love such a timeline.

Give 'em hell Jerry!

POD Ford wins in 1976.

Gerald Ford (R-MI) (1974-1981)
Edward "Ted" Kennedy (D-MA) (1981)*
Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX) (1981-1989)
Gary Hart (D-CO) (1989-1993)
Pete Wilson (R-CA) (1993-2001)
Albert Gore (D-TN) (2001=2009)
Willard "Mitt" Romney (R-MA) (2009-

* Assassinated by John Hinckley Jr.  on March 30th, 1981.

LOL, I know right...It reall just depends if I want to keep the 20 year curse going or not, or if they died of natural causes in OTL. Btw, here is my newest Presidential list based on the POD that Progressive Judge Learned Hand of New York was nominated by the Republican Party at the deadlocked convention of 1930.

The Visible Hand:

28. Woodrow Wilson (D-NJ):  March 4th 1913-March 4th 1921
29. B. Learned Hand (R-NY): March 4th 1921-March 4th 1929
30. Charles Curtis (R-KA): March 4th 1929-March 4th 1933
31. Huey P. Long (D-LA): March 4th 1933-September 10th 1935*
32. Robert F. Wagner (D-NY): September 10th 1935-January 20th 1945
33. Arthur H. Vandenberg (R-MI) January 20th 1945-April 18th 1951*
34. Phillip F. Lafollette (R-WI): April 18th 1951-January 20th 1953
35. Adlai E. Stevenson II (D-IL): January 20th 1953-January 20th 1961
36. Christian A. Herter (R-MA): January 20th 1961-January 20th 1965
37. Thruston B. Morton (R-KY): January 20th 1965-January 20th 1969
38. Russell B. Long (D-LA): January 20th 1969-January 20th 1977
39. Edward W. Brooke III (R-MA): January 20th 1977-January 20th 1981*
40. Edmund G. “Jerry” Brown Jr. (D-CA): January 20th 1981-January 20th 1989
41. Fred Harris (D-OK): January 20th 1989-January 20th 1993
42. John M. “Mike” Hayden (R-KA): January 20th 1993-January 20th 2001
43. Henry G. Cisneros (D-TX): January 20th 2001-January 19th 2007**
44. William W. “Bill” Bradley (D-NJ): January 19th 2007-January 20th 2009
45. Lincoln D. Chafee (R-RI): January 20th 2009-???

Notes.

31. Assassinated by Carl Austin Weiss in Baton Rouge, Louisiana.
33. Died in office due to complications of Cancer
39. First African American President.
43. First Hispanic American President, and first to resign due to obstruction of justice.

The fall of the G.O.P

28. Woodrow Wilson (D-NJ) / Thomas R. Marshall (D-IN) : 1913-1924*
29. Thomas R. Marshall (D-IN) / None : 1924-1925
30. Calvin Coolidge (R-NH) / Herbert Hoover (R-KS) : 1925-1933
31. Frank Emerson (R-WY) / Joseph M. Dixon (R-MT) : 1933-1941
32. Franklin Roosevelt (D-NY) / Henry Wallace (D-IA): 1941-1949

*** 1943 : GOP splits. Social Conservatives and Pro-Interventionists and moderates leave the party and create the FREEDOM PARTY. Fiscal Conservatives are only remaining faction in GOP. The split was caused by the Fiscal Conservatives refusing to let the U.S Enter WW2. So to break the GOP Majority, Social Conservatives, Moderates and Interventionists left the party which gave the Dems a 47-29 Majority in the Senate and a 200-145 in the House 

33. Dwight Eisenhower (F-PA) / Harry Truman (F-MO) : 1949-1957
34. Richard Nixon (R-CA) / Henry Cabot Lodge JR (R-MA) : 1957-1961
35. Lyndon Johnson (D-TX) / John F. Kennedy (D-MA) : 1961-1969
36. John F. Kennedy (F-MA) / Roman Hruska (F-NE) : 1969-1971*
37. Roman Hruska (F-NE) / Ronald Reagan (F-CA) : 1971-1977
38. Scoop Jackson (D-WA) / Robert Kennedy (D-NY) : 1977-1985
39. Ronald Reagan (F-CA) / Chic Hecht (F-NV) : 1985-1993

*** GOP Announces it will disband. Fiscal Conservatives flee to Freedom Party and Democrat Party.


40. Zell Miller (F-GA) / Bob Graham (F-FL) : 1993-2001
41. Al Gore (D-TN) / Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NJ) : 2001-2009
42. Sarah Palin (F-WY) / George W. Bush (F-TX) : 2009-Current

*28 : Woodrow Dies as in Real Life
*36 : JFK Dies after getting shot by Republican Protester in Dallas, Texas.

If you're gonna make 38 posts a day at least make them good and not hackish.

Formidable list. I love alternate realities where conservatives don't pollute american politics... :)

Who was Chafee's opponent?

YES!!! Two Longs in one timeline. I'm an especially big fan of Russy-Russ. There's actually a case to be made that he was the most conservative president in your atl Historico, considering he was socially conservative and pro-buisness.

Chafee defeated the incumbent President Bradley in the 2008 Election...Here's a new list everyone that ive had in my head for a while now...based on the POD that President Wilson died of his stroke in 1919.

Wilson Dies

28. Woodrow Wilson (D-NJ): March 4th 1913-October 2nd 1919*
29. Thomas R. Marshall (D-IN): October 2nd 1919-March 4th 1921
30. William Cameron Sproul (R-PA): March 4th 1921-March 21st 1928*
31. Calvin Coolidge (R-MA): March 21st 1928-March 4th 1929
32. Nicholas M. Butler (R-NY): March 4th 1929-March 4th 1933
33. John W. Davis (D-WV): March 4th1933-January 20th 1941
34. Harry L. Hopkins (D-NY): January 20th 1941-January 29th 1946*
35. James F. Byrnes (D-SC): January 29th 1946-January 20th 1949
36. Leverett A. Saltonstall (R-MA): January 20th 1949-January 20th 1957
37. Goodwin J. “Goodie” Knight (R-CA): January 20th 1957-January 20th 1961
38. J. Howard McGrath (D-RI): January 20th 1961-September 2nd 1966*
39. George Wallace (D-AL): September 2nd 1966-January 20th 1969
40.  John Wayne (R-CA): January 20th 1969-January 20th 1977
41. Robert Sargent Shriver Jr. (D-MD): January 20th 1977-January 20th 1981
42. Barry Goldwater (R-AZ): January 20th 1981-January 20th 1989
43. Ronald V. “Ron” Dellums (D-CA): January 20th 1989-January 20th 1997*
44. Phil Gramm (R-TX): January 20th 1997-January 20th 2001
45. Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH): January 20th 2001-January 20th 2009*
46. Albert A. “Al” Gore Jr. (D-TN): January 20th 2009-???

Notes.

28. Died in office of a massive stroke.
30. Died in office.
34. Died in office due to complications of stomach cancer.
38. Died in office due to a cerebral hemorrhage
43. First African American President
45. First Female President

34. Thomas Dewey (R-NY) / Alf Landon (R-KS) 1949-1953 ***
35. Richard Russell Junior (D-GA) / Adlai Stevenson (D-IL) 1953-1955 *
36. Adlai Stevenson (D-IL) / Alben Barkley (D-KY) 1955-1957 ***
37. Dwight Eisenhower (R-KS) / Harold Stassen (R-MN) 1957-1964 *
38. Harold Stassen (R-MN) / Earl Warren (R-CA) 1964-1969 **
39. John F. Kennedy (D-MA) / Scoop Jackson (D-WA) 1969-1972 *
40. Scoop Jackson (D-WA) / Robert Kennedy (D-NY) 1972-1977 **
41. Jimmy Carter (D-GA) / George Wallace (D-AL) 1977-1981 ***
42. Ronald W. Reagan (R-CA) / Chic Hecht (R-NV) 1981-1989 ****
43. Arlen Specter (D-PA) / Joe Lieberman (D-CT) 1989-1993 ***
44. Bob Dole (R-KS) / Jack Kemp (R-NY) 1997-2001

*** = Defeated
**** = Cold war ends
** = Takes over presidency for dead president
* = Killed in office

Here is a new list

****

The Virtue of Moderation

37. Richard M. Nixon (R-NY): January 20th 1969-August 9th 1974**
38. Robert H. Finch (R-CA): August 9th 1974-January 20th 1981
39. Reubin O’D. Askew (D-FL): January 20th 1981-January 20th 1989
40. Pierre S. “Pete” Du Pont IV (R-DE): January 20th 1989-January 20th 1993
41. Paul E. Tsongas (D-MA): January 20th 1993-January 18th 1997*
42. Zell B. Miller (D-GA): January 18th 1997-January 20th 2001
43. George E. Pataki (R-NY): January 20th 2001-January 20th 2009
44. Clinton B. LeSueur (D-MS): January 20th 2009-???

Notes.


37. Tricky Dick is able to convince friend, former campaign manager and California Lieutenant Governor Robert H. Finch to run with him as his running mate during the 1968 Election. Nixon’s Presidency goes essentially the same as IOTL, and resigns due to the Watergate scandal. The Sitting Vice President Robert H. Finch becomes the nation’s 38th President.

38. The Moderate President focuses much more on the domestic issues hurting the nations and is able to get Comprehensive Universal Health Insurance passed. Despite taking major flack for pardoning President Nixon, Finch is able to win an incredibly narrow victory over Scoop Jackson in the ’76 Election. However worsening economic conditions, slow reaction to the Iranian crisis and a mandate for change led to the defeat of Vice President Bob Dole to the Southern Moderate to Conservative Democrat in the 1980 Election.

39. Askew came into office in an atmosphere of change and against Washington Insiders. He would be a champion of Civil Rights and Capital Punishment but anti-nuclear freeze, anti-ERA and anti-Gay Rights. Relations with the Soviet Union would remain particularly frosty but economic prosperity would ensure him a comfortable victory over Senator Howard Baker of Tennessee. The Heightened sense of possible Nuclear War dominated his second term, which intern allowed Vice President Bayh to be defeated by Pete DuPont in 1988 election

40. Running on a platform for Economic Renewal, Pete du Pont’ despite his aristocratic lineage was supported by many working class voters for his lowered tax rates and passage of a balanced budget amendment. Yet it would be a failed attempt to reform the Social Security system and the bloody US Occupation of Iraq which doomed his reelection chances to Massachusetts Senator Paul Tsongas.

41. One of the last vestiges of the socially liberal yet economically conservative Northeastern wing of the Democratic Party, Tsongas was thrust into the White House largely due to a strong third party candidacy of Ross Perot. His economic policies were fairly popular as well as his successful withdraw from the Iraq conflict gave Tsongas high approval ratings. Yet it would be his health which would deter him from seeking reelection, allowing Vice President Miller to defeat former Vice President Laxalt in the ’96 Election. He would die two days before Miller’s inauguration on January 18th, of pneumonia and liver failure while in office.

42. President Miller would maintain Tsongas’ popular economic policies but socially reign as a social conservative Askew Democrat. He would make renewing America’s failed public school system his major championing issue. However he would loose in the most disputed election in history, where a three way election between Reform Party nominee Angus King of Maine, and Republican nominee Governor George Pataki of New York was thrown to the House of the Representatives. Pataki was able to extract concessions from King and win in the House, thus ensuring him the Presidency.

43. Although not the true popular vote choice for President, Pataki came into office wanting to cement his legacy as leader of the progressive wing of the Republican Party. Administrating as an Environmentalist who continued Miller’s education reforms but it would be a strong response to the terrorist attacks on March 20th 2003 which ensure him a landslide victory over former Vice President Tom Harkin in the 2004 election. Pataki would leave office and highly successful President, but Vice President John McCain could not overcome the mantra of change echoed by Mississippi Governor Clinton LeSueur.

44. Clinton P. LeSuer is the nation’s 1st African American and youngest President to be sworn into office as an Askew Democrat which is known term as socially conservative, economic Keynesian.

Theodore Roosevelt is narrowly nominated at the 1916 Republican Convention, when Charles Evan Hughes refuses to accept the nomination. Roosevelt defeats Wilson by about 2 points.

29)Theodore Roosevelt (R) 1917-1919 *
30)Charles Fairbanks (R) 1919-1921
31)Leonard Wood (R) 1921-1925****
32)Calvin Coolidge (R) 1925-1929
33)Frank O. Lowden (R) 1929-1933***
34)Al Smith (D) 1933-1937***
35)William Edgar Borah (R) 1937-1940*
36)Alf Landon (R) 1940-1949
37)Harold Stassen (R) 1949-1957
38)Richard Nixon (R) 1957-1963**
39)Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (R) 1963-1969
40)Lyndon B. Johnson (D) 1969-1972*
41)John F. Kennedy (D) 1972-1981
42)Ronald Reagan (R) 1981-1989
43)Jesse Jackson (D) 1989-1993****
44)Howard Baker (R) 1993-2000
45)John McCain (R) 2000-2009
46)George W. Bush (R) 2009-Current

*Died of Natural Causes While in Office
**Assassinated While in Office
***Defeated for Reelection
****Lost Party Nomination

30) Calvin Coolidge (R-RI) / Miles Poindexter (R-WA)  : 1921-1929
31) William H. McMaster (R-SD) / Herbert Hoover (R-NE) : 1929-1934 *
32) Herbert Hoover (R-NE) / Charles Curtis (R-KS) : 1934-1937
33) Franklin Roosevelt (D-NY) / Henry Wallace (D-IA)  : 1937-1945
34) Arthur Vandenberg (R-MI) / Dwight Eisenhower (R-PA) : 1945-1949
35) Henry Wallace (D-IA) / Harry Truman (D-MO) : 1949-1957
36) Dwight Eisenhower (R-PA) / Dick Nixon (R-CA) : 1957-1962 *
37) Dick Nixon (R-CA) / Henry Cabot Lodge Junior (R-MA) : 1962-1973
38) John F. Kennedy (D-MA) / John Tower (D-TX) : 1973-1975 *
39) John Tower (D-TX) / Ronald Reagan (I-CA) : 1975-1977
40) Gerald Ford (R-MI) / George H.W Bush (R-CT) : 1977-1981
41) Ronald Reagan (I-CA) / John Anderson (I-IL) : 1981-1989
42) Mike Dukakis (D-MA) / Lloyd Bentsen (D-OK) : 1989-1993
43) Bill Clinton (R-AR) / George W. Bush  (R-TX) : 1993-2001
44) John McCain (R-AZ) / Orrin Hatch (R-UT) : 2001-2005
45) Hillary Clinton (I-TN) / Mike Bloomberg (I-NY) : 2005-2013
46) Mike Bloomberg (I-NY) / Susan Collins (I-ME) : 2013- Current


# 31 : McMaster dies of heart attack, which is suspected to be caused by poison.
# 36 : Eisenhower is shot on a Vietnam visit. His death started the Vietnam war
# 38 : Disappeared in Plane crash in Texas
# 45 : First female President
# 46 : First Jewish President


Most conservative President  :

Bill Clinton (R-AR) / George W. Bush (R-TX)


Most Moderate President :

Mike Bloomberg (I-NY) / Susan Collins (I-ME)

Most Liberal President :

Henry Wallace (D-IA) / Harry Truman (D-MO)

This basically starts from the very beginning.
1790-1797: George Washington (no party)
1797-1801: John Adams
1801-1809: Thomas Jefferson
1809-1817: James Madison
1817-1825: James Monroe
1825-1833: John Quincy Adams (first a Democrat, than a National Republican)
1833-1837: Henry Clay (unpopular first term leads to defeat by Webster at Convention)
1837-1845: Daniel Webster
1845-1853: John C. Calhoun/Lewis Cass
1853-1857: Winfield Scott (anti-southern policies lead to civil war starting in 1857)
1857-1865: Stephen Douglas (North victorious in Civil War in 1863, Douglas announces that slaves in territory held by the Union Army will be free. This includes most of Virginia, Tennessee, Kentucky, Missouri, Arkansas, and parts of North Carolina and Mississippi and Louisiana)
1865-1869: John Breckenridge (Douglas attempts to run for a third term in 1864 but the Southern delegation shoots him down and nominates Breckenridge)
1869-1873: Horace Greeley (shot in 1872 while campaigning in Arlington, Virginia. The year before Greeley had abolished slavery and the South had not seceded)
1873-1881: Winfield Scott Hancock
1881-1889: James Blaine
1889-1893: Grover Cleveland
1893-1901: William McKinley
1901-1913: Theodore Roosevelt
1913-1921: William Jennings Bryan
1921-1923: Robert Marion LaFollette (shot and killed while walking down the steps of the capitol)
1923-1933: Calvin Coolidge (depression occurs as it did in real life)
1933-1941: Al Smith (first Catholic president)
1941-1945: John Nance Garner
1945-1953: Thomas Dewey
1953-1957: Richard Russell
1957-1961: Earl Warren (passes integration and civil rights laws)
1961-1969: Joe Kennedy Jr.
1969-1970: Nelson Rockefeller (dies of a massive stroke)
1970-1973: Gerald Ford (does not run for reelection)
1973-1981: Richard Nixon
1981-1985: Ronald Reagan
1985-1993: Robert Dole
1993-2001: Mario Cuomo
2001-2005: Fred Thompson
2005-Present: Mitt Romney

Most Liberal President: Earl Warren: Passed a slew of liberal domestic programs and civil rights over his only term

Most Conservative President: John Breckenridge: Opposed pretty much any expansion of the role of the federal government and opposed any move to abolish slavery in the deep south. Did nothing to prevent "slave hunters" from taking free blacks from free Southern states.

Most moderate president: Teddy Roosevelt: a foreign policy hawk and domestic liberal. Also considered by many to be the greatest president

Republican base: northern and western protestants, suburban voters, women, blacks

Democratic base: southerners and border states whites, Catholics, "ethnics", white working class, Hispanics

Here is a new list based on if there had been a deadlock at the 1952 Republican National Convention, coming after Ike declines the nod...Joe McCathy is nominated in his stead.

Tail-Gunner in the White House

33. Harry S. Truman (D-MO): April 12th 1945-January 20th 1953
34. Joseph R. “Joe” McCarthy (R-WI): January 20th 1953-May 2nd 1957*
35. Alfred E. Driscoll (R-NJ): May 2nd 1957-January 20th 1965
36. Edmund G. “Pat” Brown (D-CA): January 20th 1965-January 20th 1969
37. Cecil H. Underwood (R-WV): January 20th 1969-January 20th 1977
38. Dale Bumpers (D-AK): January 20th 1977-January 20th 1985
39. James R. “Big Jim” Thompson (R-IL): January 20th 1985-January 20th 1993
40. Robert P. Casey (D-PA): January 20th 1993-March 30th 2000*
41. Patricia “Pat” Schroeder (D-CO): March 30th 2000-January 20th 2005*
42. Malcolm S. “Steve” Forbes Jr. (R-NY): January 20th 2005-???

Notes.

34. Died in Office due to acute hepatitis/cirrhosis of the liver.
40. Died in Office due to complications of Appalachian familiar amyloidosis.
41. First Female President.

It started with a Little Flower…

32. Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY): March 4th 1933-January 20th 1941
33. Fiorella H. La Guardia (R-NY): January 20th 1941-September 20th 1947*
34. Robert M. Lafollete Jr. (R-WI): September 20th 1947-January 20th 1949
35. Scott W. Lucas (D-IL): January 20th 1949-January 20th 1953
36. Douglas McKay (R-OR): January 20th 1953-July 22nd 1959*
37. Leverett A. Saltonstall (R-MA): July 22nd 1959-January 20th 1965
38. Stewart L. Udall (D-AZ): January 20th 1965-January 20th 1973
39. Jacob K. “Jack” Javits (R-NY): January 20th 1973-January 20th 1977
40. Fred R. Harris (D-OK): January 20th 1977-January 20th 1981
41. Robert H. Bork (R-PA): January 20th 1981-January 20th 1989
42. Richard B. “Dick” Cheney (R-WY): January 20th 1989-January 20th 1993
43. David N. Dinkins (D-NY): January 20th 1993-Janurary 20th 2001*
44. James E. Folsom Jr. (D-AL): January 20th 2001-January 20th 2005
45.  John D. Ashcroft (R-MO): January 20th 2005-January 20th 2009
46. Thomas S. “Tom” Udall (D-NM): January 20th 2009-???

Notes.

33. Died in office due to complications of Pancreatic Cancer
36. Died in office due to aggravated Heart Disease
43. First African American President.

Suicide

Oh, poor Dick, nobody likes him ;)

Harding Takes a Fall

29. Warren G. Harding (R-OH): March 4, 1921-August 2, 1923
30. Albert Fall (R-NM): August 2, 1923-March 4, 1925
31. Cordell Hull (D-TN): March 4, 1925-March 4, 1933
32. Herbert Hoover (R-IA): March 4, 1933-January 20, 1941
33. Kenneth Wherry (R-NE): January 20, 1941-January 20, 1949
34. Albert “Happy” Chandler (D-KY): January 20, 1949-January 20, 1957
35. Irving Ives (R-NY): January 20, 1957-February 24, 1962
36. Earl Warren (R-CA): February 24, 1962-November 22, 1963
37. Charles Halleck (R-MI): November 22, 1963-January 20, 1965
38. Hale Boggs (D-LA): January 20, 1965-July 18, 1969
39. Ronald Reagan (D-CA): July 19, 1969-January 20, 1977
40. Charles Percy (R-IL): January 20, 1977-January 20, 1985
41. Robert F. Kennedy (D-MA): January 20, 1985-June 6, 1990
42. James E. Carter (D-GA): June 6, 1990-January 20, 1993
43. Bill Bradley (R-NJ): January 20, 1993-January 20, 2001
44. Rudolph Giuliani (D-NY): January 20, 2001-January 20, 2009
45. Ray Nagin (R-LA): January 20, 2009-Present

Notes:
30. When President Fall’s name surfaced in the Teapot Dome scandal, the Republicans were doomed. Cordell Hull and the Democrats capitalized and won a landslide victory in 1924.

31. Hull had an uneventful first term. But his second was marked by the stock market crash in October 1929 and his inaction in the face of an impending recession which would have been worse if he did not veto the Smoot-Hawley bill raising tariffs. The Republicans won back majorities in Congress in the 1930 elections.

32. Hoover won a landslide victory over the hapless Democratic nominee, Vice President John Davis, by promising a New Deal for the American people and “a chicken in every pot.” In his first hundred days in office, Hoover pushed for passage of landmark banking reforms, the Securities Exchange Act, interstate highway construction, and rural electrification. After defeating Governor Alfred Smith in a landslide in 1936 (Hoover even won Florida, Texas, Virginia, and North Carolina), Hoover had the political capital to pursue more legislation. The Civil Rights Act of 1937 would end institutional discrimination against racial minorities, lynching and the poll tax. To this day, blacks and Hispanics are the most loyal supporters of the Republicans. With war brewing in Europe in 1938, Hoover was tempted to seek a third term in 1940 but decided to honor the two term tradition. He hoped that Vice President William Borah would succeed him as President but Borah died on January 19, 1940. The Republicans nominated Senator Kenneth Wherry and he offered the Vice Presidency to Mayor Fiorello LaGuardia of New York City. After LaGuardia refused, Governor Theodore Roosevelt Jr. of New York accepted. Wherry defeated Senator Earl Long (D-LA) in 1940.

33. As President, Wherry continued Hoover’s isolationist policies but that came to an end when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor in 1942. The USA entered World War II on the side of the Allies. On July 12, 1944, Vice President Roosevelt died of a heart attack. The Republicans nominated Secretary of State Morgan Larson for Vice President. Wherry won reelection against the Democratic nominee, Governor Franklin D. Roosevelt of New York. In 1945, World War II ended when President Wherry ordered atomic bombs dropped on Hiroshima, Kyoto and Nagasaki which forced the Japanese to surrender. With the country switching to a peacetime economy, the recession began in 1946 and it hurt the Republicans in the midterm elections. In 1948, the Republicans nominated General Douglas MacArthur for President and Senator Styles Bridges of New Hampshire for Vice President. The country tired of 16 years of Republican Presidents and MacArthur’s speeches about using atomic bombs against the Chinese and Russians turned off voters.

35. Died in office and succeeded by his Vice President Earl Warren.

36. President Warren was assassinated in Los Angeles. He traveled to California to raise money for the Republicans and to mend fences between its conservative and progressive wings. With the Vice Presidency vacant, Speaker of the House Charles Halleck became President and he announced that he would not run for the office in 1964.

38. First Roman Catholic President. Boggs died when Air Force One crashed over the Boston Harbor. He was on his way to visit Senator John F. Kennedy. When Vice President Reagan moved up to the Presidency, he selected Kennedy for Vice President.

39. President Reagan was able to win the Vietnam War with honor and push tax cuts which grew the economy. He won a landslide 49 state victory over Senator George McGovern (R-SD) in 1972. Vice President Kennedy became the frontrunner for the nomination in 1976 but his struggles with Addison’s disease resulted in a stroke in 1975 which resulted in his death that year.

41. Bobby Kennedy was elected to his brother’s Senate seat in 1970 and served there until his election as President in 1984. Bobby was also a diabetic and suffered a fatal heart attack in 1990.

42. President Carter won high praise for handling the Persian Gulf War that freed Kuwait and ended the regime of Saddam Hussein. His popularity ratings peaked at 86 percent by 1991. But insurgencies against American troops in Iraq would lead to his defeat to Bill Bradley who promises to bring the troops home. His running mate was former Attorney General and Senator Bill Clinton (R-IL).

44. Attorney General in the Kennedy and Carter administrations and Governor of New York, Giuliani won the Democratic nomination in 2000 and made history with his choice of a female running mate, Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison (D-TX). Giuliani’s first term was marked by the terrorist destruction of the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001. A coalition of US, Canadian, British, French and ANZAC troops invaded Afghanistan, removed the Taliban from power and put al-Qaeda out of business. Osama bin Laden was killed in a gun battle in Tora Bora. Taliban leader Muhammad Omar and the high ranking al-Qaeda leadership were captured and held at Guantanamo Bay. After defeating Governor Howard Dean (R-VT) in a 48 state landslide in 2004, Giuliani set his sights on Iran and started a war when President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad announced his country tested its nuclear weapons. Canada, Australia, New Zealand and France refused to go to war unless Iran struck first. But the British stuck with the US and started a war with Iran. Victory was declared after the nuclear reactor in Hormuz was struck. The unpopularity of the war and President Giuliani’s lack of action during Hurricane Katrina in 2005 resulted in a Republican rout in the 2006 elections. Ray Nagin, former New Orleans mayor and first Republican Senator from Louisiana since Reconstruction, swept the Super Tuesday primaries in the south and clinched the nomination. With his running mate, Governor Kathleen Sebelius (R-KS), Nagin defeated Vice President Hutchison to become the nation’s first African-American President.

1961-1967 : John F. Kennedy (D-MA) / Lyndon Johnson (D-TX) *
1967-1973 : Lyndon Johnson (D-TX) / George McGovern (D-SD)
1973-1977 :  Richard Nixon (R-CA) / Spiro Agnew (R-MD)
1977-1985 : Robert Kennedy (D-NY) / Jimmy Carter (D-GA)
1985-1993 : Thad Cochran (R-MS) / Ronald Reagan (R-CA)
1993-1999 : Chic Hecht (R-NV) / Jack Kemp (R-NY) *
1999-2005 : Jack Kemp (R-NY) / Bob Dole (R-KS)
2005-2008 : Bill Clinton (D-KY) / John Kerry (D-RI) *
2008-2009 : John Kerry (D-RI) / Tom Ridge (D-PA)
2009-Current : Hillary Clinton (D-NH) / John Edwards (D-VA)

* JFK shot in Dallas
* Hecht dies of heart attack, continuing the senator's curse
* B. Clinton dies  after being shot on campaign trail. Also continuing the senator's curse

Don't you mean Reagan/Cochran?

No Cochran  / Reagan

Cuomo victory in '88
Ronald W. Reagan (R-CA) / George H.W. Bush (R-TX): 1981-1989
Mario M. Cuomo (D-NY) /  Albert A. Gore (D-TN): 1989-1997
Richard G. Lugar (R-IN) / Connie A. Mack III (R-FL): 1997-2003*
Connie A. Mack III (R-FL) / John S. McCain (R-AZ): 2003-2009
Lawrence D. Wilder (D-VA) / John F. Kerry (D-MA): 2009- present**

*Dies of heart attack while in office
** First African-American President

Ford accepted Reagan V.P. nomination

38. Gerald R. Ford (R-MI), August 6, 1974 - January 20, 1977
39. James E. Carter (D-GA), January 20, 1977 - January 20, 1981
40. Ronald W. Reagan (R-CA), January 20 - March 31, 1981
41. Gerald R. Ford (R-MI), March 31, 1981 - January 20, 1985
42. George H. W. Bush (R-TX), January 20, 1985 - January 20, 1989
43. Walter F. Mondale (D-MN), January 20, 1989 - January 20, 1997
44. Albert A. Gore, Jr. (D-TN), January 20, 1997 - January 20, 2001
45. John S. McCain (R-AZ), January 20, 2001 - January 20, 2009
47. John F. Kerry (D-MA), January 20, 2009 - present

40 - Assassinated
41 - One of just two Presidents who served non-consensutive terms and only who did it without even being elected President at least once. Ford was eglible to run for re-election in 1984 but declined in favor of V.P. Bush
43 - Mondale decided to skip 1984 and allow Hart to get swallowed by Bush. He himself beat Bush in 1988
42, 44 - Defeated for reelection

1945-1953: Henry Wallace (D)
1953-1959: Robert Taft (R)
1959-1974: Gus Hall (C)
1974-1988: Lyndon LaRouche (C)
1988-1999: Bill Ayers (C)
1999-2000: Angela Davis (C)
2000-2008: Peter Camejo (C)
2008-  : Mitt Romney (C)

D = Democratic Party
R = Republican Party
C = Communist Party

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1953-1957: Joseph McCarthy (R)
1957-1961: Richard Nixon (R)
1961-1972: J. Edgar Hoover (AP)
1972-1985: George Wallace (AP)
1985-1993: Gordon Liddy (AP)
1993-1995: Pat Buchanan (AP)
1995-1997: John McCain (AP)
1997-2001: Dennis Kucinich (F)
2001-2005: Russ Feingold (F)
2005-2009: Howard Dean (F)
2009-  : Olympia Snowe (M)

R = Republican Party
AP = American Patriot Party
F = Freedom Party
M = Moderate Party

President Romney of the Communist Party? He would go everywhere and "believe" in anything just to gain a power :)

Another what-if list based on the Rise of the Progressives:
I felt like being a mindless hack today, lol

A dominate libertarian Republican party
Theodore Roosevelt (NY)/Robert M. LaFollette Sr. (WI) (Progressive) 1913-1919*
Robert M. LaFollette Sr. (WI)/Hiram Johnson (CA) (Progressive) 1919-1921
Warren G. Harding (OH)/Frank O. Lowden (IA) (Republican) 1921-1923*
Frank O. Lowden (IA)/Calvin Coolidge (MA) (Republican) 1923-1929
Calvin Coolidge (MA)/James Wolcott Wadsworth (NY) (Republican) 1929-1937
Robert Taft (OH)/Alfred Landon (KS) (Republican) 1937-1945
Franklin Delano Roosevelt (NY)/Robert M. LaFollette Jr. (WI) (Progressive) 1945
Robert M. LaFollette Jr. (WI)/Henry Wallace (IA) (Progressive) 1945-1949
Harry Truman (MO)/Thomas Dewey (NY) (Republican) 1949-1950*
Thomas Dewey (NY)/Harold Stassen (MN) (Republican) 1950-1957
Lyndon Baines Johnson (TX)/John F. Kennedy (MA) (Democrat) 1957-1963*
John F. Kennedy (MA)/Daniel Brewster (MD) (Democrat) 1963-1969
Ronald Reagan (CA)/ William Scranton (PA) (Republican) 1969-1977
Fred Harris (OK)/Birch Bayh (IN) (Progressive) 1977-1981
Ted Kennedy (MA)/Lloyd Bentsen (TX) (Democrat) 1981*
Lloyd Bentsen (TX)/Gary Hart (CO) (Democrat) 1981-1985
Jerry Brown (CA)/Paul Tsongas (MA) (Republican) 1985-1993
Paul Tsongas (MA)/Mary Ruwart (TX) (Republican) 1993-1997*
Mary Ruwart (TX)/Steven Kubby (CA) (Republican) 1997-2005
Steven Kubby (CA)/Wayne Allyn Root (NV) (Republican) 2005-present

*Death in office.

37th:Hubert Humphrey/Edmund Muskie 1969-1973
38th:Nelson Rockefeller/Margaret C. Smith 1973-1979
39th:Margaret C. Smith/George H. W. Bush 1979-1981
40th:Jerry Brown/Ernest Hollings 1981-1989
41th:Bob Dole/Jack Kemp 1989-1993
42th:Tom Harkin/Bill Clinton 1993-1998
42th:Tom Harkin/Douglas Wilder 1998-2001
43th:Elizabeth Dole/Chuck Hagel 2001-2009
44th:Al Gore/Bill Richardson 2009-

26th:Theodore Roosevelt/Charles W. Fairbanks 1901-1913
27th:Robert M. LaFollette/Charles W. Fairbanks 1913-1917
28th:Woodrow Wilson/Thomas R. Marshall 1917-1921
29th:Robert M. La Follette/Calvin Coolidge 1921-1925
30th:Hiram Johnson/Calvin Coolidge 1925-1933
31th:John N. Garner/Al Smith 1933-1941
32th:Thomas E. Dewey/Charles L. McNary 1941-1944
32th:Thomas E. Dewey/ 1944-1945
33th:Thomas E. Dewey/Harold Stassen 1945-1949
34th:Harold Stassen/Raymond E. Baldwin 1949-1953
35th:Robert Taft/Richard Nixon 1953-1953
36th:Richard Nixon/Douglas MacArthur 1953-1961
37th:Robert M. La Follette, Jr./Henry C. Lodge 1961-1969
38th:Barry Goldwater/Spiro Agnew 1969-1973
38th:Barry Goldwater/John Ashbrook 1973-1977
39th:Morris Udall/Lloyd Bentsen 1977-1981
40th:Ronald Reagan/Bob Dole 1981-1989
41th:Michael Dukakis/Al Gore 1989-1993
42th:Bob Dole/Dan Quayle 1993-1997
43th:Al Gore/Bob Kerrey 1997-2005
44th:Dan Quayle/Kay Bailey Hutchison 2005-2009
45th:John McCain/Joe Biden 2009-

Three very good lists.

34) Thomas Dewey/Earl Warren (R-NY) 1949-1953*
35) Dwight Eisenhower/Richard Nixon (R-TX) 1953-1965*
36) Richard Nixon/Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (R-CA) 1965-1972**
37) Henry Cabot Lodge Jr./George Romney (R-MA) 1972-1977*
38) John Kennedy/George Wallace (D-MA) 1977-1981***
39) Ronald Reagan/George H. W. Bush (R-CA) 1981-1989*
40) George H. W. Bush/Donald Rumsfeld (R-TX) 1989-1997*
41) George W. Bush/Richard Cheney 1997-2001|John McCain 2001-2009 (R-TX)****
42) Mitt Romney/Tim Pawlenty 2009-Current

*Refused to run again for the nomination
**Assasinated while campaigning in Philadelphia
***Narrowly defeated in his reelection bid
****Richard Cheney was assasinated while being evacuated from the White House during the terrorist attacks in Washington D.C. Bush declined renomination in 2008

wtf?

It would be to lengthy to explain in full, but the idea is that the Southern Conservatives split off from the Democratic party. This split, and also the popularity of the Republican administrations in most cases, resulted in their continued political defeats until 1976.

By 1976, the Democrats had abandoned Civil Rights as part of their platform, and had agreed to prerogative of always establishing a ticket of at least one Northerner, acceptable to those related delegates, and one Southerner, acceptable to the Southern delegations.

JFK, despite a generally good term in office, gets brought down by the crisis in Iran, even though it is by a narrow margin, losing the popular vote by 2 percent. 1984 is no better, as Reagan's popularity carries him over the opposition ticket of Mondale/Bumpers.

1988 becomes the turning point. Dukakis choose Paul Simon of Illinois, instead of the traditional Southerner. Al Gore, feeling he should have won the Vice-Presidential nomination, runs as a Conservative Democrat. This dooms their chances against Bush in the election.

In 1992, a similar thing occurs. Though Gore wins the popular vote in the primaries, Kerrey's endorsement of Paul Tsongas leads to another schism, as Tsongas subsequently chooses Kerrey as his VP. Bush wins a narrow victory as a result of the split in the Democratic Party, and Perot's campaign.

From then on, the Reform Party continuously picks off of the Conservative Democrat base, until it is disbanded in 2005. As a result, the really only remain competitive in the Northeast.

The Republicans could have lost in 2008, due to the War in Iran taking a toll on Coalition forces. However, John Edwards, the Reform Party nominee, is brought down by the scandal involving his campaign aide. What was once a 10 point lead quickly was sent to a 6 point deficit. As a result, Romney wins.

Here's another complete list of alternate presidents. It's a bit different than my other:
Federalist dominance leads to extreme craziness timeline

1.George Washington (VA) (No Party)/John Adams (MA) (Federalist) 1789-1797
2.John Adams (MA)/Thomas Pinckney (SC) (Federalist) 1797-1805
3.Thomas Pinckney (SC)/Rufus King (NY) (Federalist) 1805-1813
4.John Quincy Adams (MA)/DeWitt Clinton (NY) (Federalist) 1813-1829*
5.Henry Clay (KY)/John C. Calhoun (SC) (Federalist) 1829-1833
6.King George Washington Adams (MA) (American Monarch) 1833-1865*
7.Revolutionary Council (Alliance of the Revolution) 1865-1869*
8.John C. Fremont (CA)/Ulysses S. Grant (OH) (Alliance of the Revolution) 1869-1872*
9.Ulysses S. Grant (OH)/Henry Wilson (MA) (Revolutionary) 1872-1877
10.Benjamin Gratz Brown (MO)/Andrew Curtin (PA) (Liberal) 1877-1885*
11.Blanche Kelso Bruce (MS)/James Baird Weaver (IA) (People's Party) 1885-1890*
12.James Baird Weaver (IA)/James Gaven Field (VA) (People's Party) 1890-1893
13.Charles Horatio Matchett (MA)/Matthew Maguire (NJ) (Social Democratic) 1893-1897
14.Grover Cleveland (OH)/John G. Carlisle (KY) (Liberal) 1897-1901
15.Eugene V. Debbs (IN)/Theodore Roosevelt (NY) (Social Democratic) 1901*
16.Theodore Roosevelt (NY)/Job Harriman (CA) (Social Democratic) 1901-1909
17.Robert M. LaFollette Sr. (WI)/Hiram Johnson (CA) (Social Democratic) 1909-1917
18.Hiram Johnson (CA)/Allan Louis Benson (NY) (Social Democratic) 1917-1921
19.Calvin Coolidge (MA)/Frank O. Lowden (IA) (Liberal) 1921-1929
20.Herbert Hoover (IA)/Charles Curtis (KS) (Liberal) 1929-1933
21.Franklin Delano Roosevelt (NY)/Robert M. LaFollette Jr. (WI) (Socialist) 1933-1937*
22.Robert M. LaFollette Jr. (WI)/Henry Wallace (IA) (Socialist) 1937-1945
23.Henry Wallace (IA)/Glen H. Taylor (ID) (Communist Party of America) 1945-1953*
24.Joseph McCarthy (WI) (1953-1976)/VPs: Harold Stassen (MN) 1953-1961/Richard Nixon (CA) 1961-1967/James A. Rhodes (OH) 1967-1972/Nelson Rockefeller (NY) 1972-1976 (Communist Party of America)*
25.Nelson Rockefeller (NY)/Henry M. Jackson (WA) (Communist Party of America) 1976-1978*
26.Council to Restore America 1978-1981*
27.Fred Harris (OK)/Ted Kennedy (MA) (Progressive Democrat) 1981-1989*
28.Ted Kennedy (MA)/Jerry Brown (CA) (Progressive Democrat) 1989-1993
29.Al Gore (TN)/Bill Clinton (AR) (Liberal Republican) 1993-2001*
30.Pat Buchanan (VA)/George W. Bush (TX) (American Nationalist Party) 2001-2005*
31.Howard Dean (VT)/Russ Feingold (WI) (Progressive Democrat) 2005-2009
32.Mary Ruwart (TX)/Steven Kubby (CA) (Liberal Republican) 2009-present*

Notes:
4.With the Democratic Republican party destroyed in 1819, the Federalists hold complete dominance over the American government. This allows John Quincy Adams to stay in office for 16 years (4 terms) with no strong challenge. He doesn't go up for re-election in 1828 due to health problems.

6.After Congress passes the American Monarch Act, the offices of president and vice president are abolished and replaced by the position "King". America is now an oligarchy ruled by the interests of the Federalist elite. The King George Washington Adams would reign for 32 years that would forever alter the course of American history. America during this stage was called "The American Empire".

7.After years of being abused by the higher power of the oligarchy, the people of America answer the cries of revolution from the The American People's Revolutionary Brigade, a leftist revolutionary group that based most of their ideology off that of the French Revolution before them. In 1861, the nation would explode into a state of constant civil war between Monarchist and Revolutionary forces. On April 21st, 1865, King George Washington Adams, the first and only monarch of the American Empire (which would be renamed "The United People's Republic of America") would be executed along with his family for crimes against the people of America. For four years after the Revolutionary Council would reside over the nation until all legislative, judicial, and executive positions were refilled. Also, slavery was abolished in every piece of land in America and minorities and women were granted social equality with white men. Leftists around the world would call this "A true triumph for the common man over the forces of Imperialism and Oligarchy."

8.John C. Fremont, who many consider the "Father of the Revolution", would become the first president of the United People's Republic of America. However, he wouldn't live through his term, instead ending up assasinated by John Wilkes Booth, an anti leftist, on April 15th, 1872. His vice president, former Revolutionary Brigade general Ulysses S. Grant would ascend to the presidency.

10.The Liberal party is the classically liberal party that traces it's lineage back to the Democratic-Republican party of Jefferson.

11.The People's Party is the leftist party that sprung up after the Revolutionary Party was disbanded in the late 1870s. It's closest in ideology to the Greenback Party IOTL.

13.The Social Democratic Party is a Democratic Socialist party.

15.Eugene V. Debbs has the same fate as William McKinley does IOTL. Theodore Roosevelt assumes the role of a non-interventionist in ITTL and is a great deal more left.

21.After the Great Depression occurs under the watch of the progressive Liberal president Herbert Hoover, the citizens vote in the Socialist ticket of Franklin Roosevelt/Robert M. LaFollette into office by a landslide. FDR would live until a week before his second inauguration before passing away due to complications brought on by polio.

23.In 1945, Henry Wallace merges the Socialist and Communist Parties together and creates the "Communist Party of America", other wise known as CPA. America had now become the second world power to become a communist nation. Little did Henry Wallace know how drastic this transformation would effect the future of America.

24.Joseph McCarthy is elected in 1953 to the office of president. Almost immediately he starts consolidating power to the Executive Branch and grants himself powers to put down dissent to "keep peace" in America. He orders police actions against those who are found harboring "anti-American pro-captialist tendencies or British sympathies". By 1957, every party is disbanded except the Communist Party of America. By 1960 millions of Americans would be thrown into large work camps in the deserts of Arizona and southern California or the barren wastes of the Alaska wilderness with little nourishment. Many would die from the harsh conditions. His first Vice President Harold Stassen would resign out of disgust at his policies before being deemed "an enemy of the state" and executed. Second VP Richard Nixon would be found out conspiring to overthrow McCarthy and would also be summarily executed. Throughout the 60s and 70s Communist American forces would spread throughout the Americas converting much of the Western hemisphere by sheer force to American Communism. With Soviet Russia, Maoist China, and Communist America, it seemed like Karl Marx's dream of a world under Communism was inevitable. Third VP James A. Rhodes was a close follower of McCarthyism (which was pretty close to Stalinism) and pretty loyal to McCarthy. He was responsible for granting the National Guard authority to put down any and all protests by American citizens against government actions in South America. Through fear McCarthy wins re-elections by at least 92%. Rhodes would be assasinated by a rebel from the Liberty Resistance while visiting Mexico in November of 1972. He would be replaced by fourth VP Nelson Rockefeller who had an immense hunger for power. Many speculate that Rockefeller may have poisoned McCarthy so he could grab power himself. All told, Joseph McCarthy during his 23 year reign of hell would be responsible for the death of 80 million innocent people in the Western hemisphere, at least 30 million of which would be his own people. Just like another Joseph, he would forever be associated with the words "evil" and "genocide".

25.Rockefeller was nowhere near the tyrant of his predescessor, but he still had no qualms about using force to achieve his goals. Under his reign the Liberty Resistance exploded and pretty soon were liberating South American countries left and right with the popular support of the people of the nations. By January 1978, the Liberty Resistance had liberated much of the American West and Canada and advancing rapidly on the East and West Coasts. On November 12th, 1978, the government of the United People's Republic of America was overthrown. A new dawn of freedom and liberty for humanity had begun. The forces of tyranny would die once and for all.

26.Between the overthrow of the government and the rebooting of the branches of government, the nation was organized by an interim government ran by the Council to restore America.

Notes cont.:

27.Fred Harris, one of the founders of the Liberty Resistance is elected the first president of the re-established United States of America on the Progressive Democratic ticket with fellow revolutionary leader Ted Kennedy as vice president. Harris would survive an attempt on his life shortly after taking office by a former CPA military officer. He would break all ties to the Soviet Union and would get the US to join NATO to oppose further Soviet aggression. The Progressive Democratic Party is similar to the Democratic Party IOTL, but a bit more civil libertarian.

29.Al Gore becomes the first president in the Liberal Republican Party. His vice president is former Arkansas Governor and former revolutionary guerilla captain Bill Clinton. The Liberal Republican Party is the descendant to the Liberal Party which died off during the 1950s. It's pretty close in ideology to the Libertarian Party IOTL.

30.The American Nationalist Party is exactly how it sounds: A right wing party that is pretty damn protectionist and borderline racist. They win a narrow victory over the Progressives and Republicans off a campaign of protecting American jobs and by energizing the new social conservative base.

32.Mary Ruwart becomes the first woman president. Her vice president Steven Kubby would become the first vice president to survive off of daily marijuana use.

Wow, I think I just found my next what if scenario......

Wow..lol

29) Calvin Coolidge (R-MA) / Harry Stewart New (R-IN) : 1921-1929
30) Harry New (R-IN) / Herbert Hoover (R-ND) : 1929-1931 *
31) Herbert Hoover (R-ND) / Charles Curtis (R-KS) : 1931-1933
32) Franklin Roosevelt (D-NY) / Henry Wallace (D-IA) : 1933-1942 * WW2 Starts 1942
33) Henry Wallace (D-IA) / Harry Truman (D-MO) : 1942-1945
34) Arthur Vandenburg (R-MI) / Dwight Eisenhower (R-PA) : 1945-1953 (WW2 Ends 1947)
35) Thomas Dewey (D-NY) / Robert Kerr (D-OK) : 1953-1957
36) Dwight Eisenhower (R-PA) / Dick Nixon (R-CA) : 1957-1965
37) John F. Kennedy (D-MA) / Scoop Jackson (D-WA)  : 1965-1973
38) Scoop Jackson (D-WA) / Robert Kennedy (D-NY) : 1973-1981
39) Ronald Reagan (R-CA) / Jack Kemp (R-NY) : 1981-1989
40) Jack Kemp (R-NY) / Bob Dole (R-KS) : 1989-1997
41) Bill Clinton (D-AR) / Bob Graham (D-FL) : 1997-2005
42) Al Gore (D-TN) / Zell Miller (D-GA) : 2005-2009
43) Tom Coburn (R-OK) / Kay Hutchinson (R-TX) : 2009-Current


My dream List!

My god man, you really are crazy!!!!!

Please, do it!!

Guerilla Commandante Clinton, lol :D

Ladies and gentelmans... the honorable Presidents of the Confederate States of America!


1st: Jefferson Davis (D-MS), February 18, 1861 - February 20, 1867
2nd: John C. Breckinridge (D-KY), February 20, 1867 - February 20, 1874
3rd: Alexander Stephens (W-GA), February 20, 1874 - May 12, 1878
4th: Richard Coke (W-TX), May 12, 1878 - February 20, 1881
5th: Alvin Hawkins (W-TN), February 20, 1881 - February 20, 1888
6th: John Brown Gordon (D-GA), February, 20, 1888 - February 20, 1895
7th: Thomas Jordan Jarvis (D-NC), Febuary 20, 1895 - February 20, 1902
8th: Thomas Watson (P-GA), February 20, 1902 - February 20, 1909
9th: William D. Jelks (C-AL), Feburuary 20, 1909 - February 20, 1916
10th: William Hodges Mann (C-VA), February 20, 1916 - October 3, 1919
11th: Sidney Johnston Catts (C-FL), October 3, 1919 - February 20, 1923
12th: Ellison D. Smith (C-SC), February 20, 1923 - February 20, 1930
13th: Bibb Graves (P-AL), February 20, 1930 - February 20, 1937
14: Richard Russell, Jr. (P-GA), February 20, 1937 - February 20, 1944
15th: Theodore Bilbo (C-MS), February 20, 1944 - August 21, 1947
16th: Harry F. Byrd (C-VA), August 21, 1947 - February 20, 1951
17: Estes Kefauver (P-TN), February 20, 1951 - February 20, 1958
18th: Lyndon B. Johnson (P-TX), February 20, 1958 - February 20, 1965
19th: John M. Patterson (C-AL), February 20, 1965 - February 20, 1972
20th: Jimmy Carter (P-GA), February 20, 1972 - February 20, 1979
21st: William E. Brock (C-TN), February 20, 1979 - January 3, 1981
22nd: John G. Tower (C-TX), January 3, 1981 - February 20, 1986
23rd: Dale Bumpers (P-AR), February 20, 1986 - February 20, 1992
24th: Newt Gingrich (C-GA), February 20, 1992 - February 20, 1999
25th: Al Gore (D-TN), Febuary 20, 1999 - February 20, 2006
27th: Bill Richardson (P-NM), February 20, 2006 - present

Democratic Party: The first party, conservative and seccessionist

Whig Party: Founded by Stevens, more moderate

Constitution Party: Conservative, smilliar to mainsteram today Southern Republicans and previously Dixiecrats

Populist Party: Progressive, composing working class, big cities, educated whites and emancipated minorities

19th:Samuel J. Tilden/Thomas A. Hendricks 1877-1885
20th:George F. Edmunds/John Alexander Logan 1885-1886
20th:George F. Edmunds/ 1886-1889
21th:Grover Cleveland/Allen G. Thurman 1889-1893
22th:William McKinley/Russell A. Alger 1893-1897
23th:Horace Boies/Arthur Sewall 1897-1900
23th:Horace Boies/Adlai Stevenson 1900-1901
24th:Adlai Stevenson/Alton B. Parker 1901-1909
25th:Alton B. Parker/John W. Kern 1909-1913
26th:Robert LaFollette/Hiram Johnson 1913-1921
27th:Hiram Johnson/Calvin Coolidge 1921-1933
28th:John Nance Garner/Albert Ritchie 1933-1936
28th:John Nance Garner/James A. Reed 1936-1941
29th:Arthur H. Vandenberg/Charles L. McNary 1941-1944
29th:Arthur H. Vandenberg/Harold Stassen 1944-1949
30th:Harold Stassen/Earl Warren 1949-1953
31th:Adlai Stevenson/John Sparkman 1953-1961
32th:Estes Kefauver/Stuart Symington 1961-1963
33th:Stuart Symington/John F. Kennedy 1963-1969
34th:Richard Nixon/George Romney 1969-1974
35th:George Romney/Bob Dole 1974-1977
36th:Henry Jackson/Birch Bayh 1977-1981
37th:Ronald Reagan/George H. W. Bush 1981-1981
38th:George H. W. Bush/Bob Dole 1981-1989
39th:Bob Dole/Jack Kemp 1989-1993
40th:Douglas Wilder/Al Gore 1993-2001
41th:Elizabeth Dole/George W. Bush 2001-2009
42th:Barack Obama/Tom Vilsack 2009-

1921-1929 : Calvin Coolidge (R-MA) / Frank Lowden (R-IL)
1929-1933 : Franklin Roosevelt (D-NY) / Michael Cox (D-OH)
1933-1944 : Arthur Vandenberg (R-MI) / Harry S. New (R-IN) *
1944-1949 : Harry S. New (R-IN) / Herbert Hoover (R-KS)
1949-1955 : Richard Nixon (D-CA) / Henry Cabot Lodge  JR (D-MA) **
1955-1965 : Dwight Eisenhower (R-KS) / Harold Stassen (R-MN) ***
1965-1969 : Barry Goldwater (R-AZ) / John Tower (R-TX)
1969-1972 : John F. Kennedy (D-MA) / Lyndon Johnson (D-TN) *
1972-1977 : Lyndon Johnson (D-TN) / Jimmy Carter (D-AL)
1977-1981 : Jimmy Carter (D-AL) / George Romney (D-MI)
1981-1989 : Jack Kemp (R-NY) / Ronald Reagan (R-CA)
1989-1997 : George H.W Bush (R-CT) / Fred Thompson (R-TN)
1997-2005 : Bill Clinton (D-AR) / Zell Miller (D-GA)
2005-Current : George W. Bush (R-KS) / Kay Hutchinson (R-TX)

* Vandenberg is killed when White House is bombed by Germany. Vandenberg only one killed.
** Nixon is impeached for corruption crimes, as is lodge
*** Fmr Gen. And Speaker Eisenhower (R-KS)  is sworn in as president!
* JFK is killed on a trip to Tulsa, OK

America: The New Rome

America falls into a Ceaser-esque Dictatorship.  It is a sort of Monarchy, and the President before chooses his successor. His successor may not be an immediate family member, so that you may not create a dynasty. They must also be over the age of 35. A President must be born in a US State or Territory. Presidents serve life-terms, and can only be removed from office if they choose to step down or a unanimous vote from the Senate.

Their Excellencies, the Presidents:

1789-1799 George Washington
1799-1826 Thomas Jefferson
1826-1852 Henry Clay
1852-1867 Abraham Lincoln
1867-1886 Winfield Hancock
1886-1901 Benjamin Harrison
1901-1932 Theodore Roosevelt
1932-1948 Franklin Roosevelt
1948-1963 Lyndon Johnson
1963-1969 James Roosevelt
1969-2005 John F. Kennedy
2005-         Hillary Rodham

Good list

It's even probable FDR would appoint LBJ and TR would appoint cousin Franklin ;D

Yeah, agreed.

Thank you.

Hey...Here's a list on possible CSA President's based on my friend's Robert's Black and Gray timeline featured here http://www.geocities.com/robertp6165/blackconfederatecontents.html .Ill probably do a continued list for the USA, TX, and Desert at a later date.

The Black and The Gray TL: CSA Presidents

1. Jefferson F. Davis (D/I-MS): February 18th 1861-Feburary 22nd 1868
2. Robert E. Lee (L-VA): February 22nd 1868-October 10th 1870*
3. Patrick R. Cleburne (L-TN): October 10th 1870-Feburary 22nd 1874
4. James Longstreet (L-GA): February 22nd 1874-Febuary 22nd 1880
5. Wade Hampton III (L-SC): February 22nd 1880-September 22nd 1881*
6. Fitzhugh Lee (L-VA): September 22nd 1881-February 22nd 1892
7. Joseph Wheeler (L-AL): February 22nd 1892-Feburary 22nd 1898
8. Raphael Semmes JR. (SS-MD): February 22nd 1898-Feburary 22nd 1904
9. J.E.B. Stuart, Jr. (SS-VA): February 22nd 1904-February 22nd 1910
10. Simon Bolivar Buckner Jr. (SS-KY): February 22nd 1910-Feburary 22nd 1916
11. Woodrow Wilson (L-VA): February 22nd 1916-Februrary 22nd 1922
12. Eugene Talmadge (SS-GA): February 22nd 1922-February 22nd 1928
13. Albert C. Ritchie (L-MD): February 22nd 1928-February 22nd 1934
14. Thomas W. Hardwick (L-GA): February 22nd 1934- February 22nd 1940
15. Harvey Parnell (SS-AK): February 22nd 1940-Febuary 22nd 1946
16. Richard B. Russell Jr. (L-GA): February 22nd 1946-February 22nd 1952
17. John J. Sparkman (SS-AL): February 22nd 1952-February 22nd 1958
18. Estes Kefauver (L-TN): February 22nd 1958-August 10th 1963*
19. George C. Wallace Jr. (L-AL): August 10th 1963-Feburary 1972
20. George A. Smathers (SS-FL): February 22nd 1972-February 22nd 1980
21. James E. “Jimmy” Carter (L-GA): February 22nd 1980-Febuary 22nd 1986
22. Edwin W. Edwards (L-LA): February 22nd 1986-March 10th 1990**
23. Harvey B. Gantt (L-NC): March 10th 1990-Febuary 22nd 1998***
24. Marion G. “Pat” Robertson (SS-VA): February 22nd 1988-Feburary 22nd 2006
25. Katherine Harris (SS-FL): February 22nd 2006-???***

Notes.

2. Died in office due to complications of pneumonia.
5. Assassinated by a Cuban Revolutionary via explosive.
18. Died in office due to a massive heart attack.
22. Resigned the office of POTCS, due to corruption charges.
23. First African American President
25. First Female President

Ladies and Gentelmen, Presidents of the Commonwealth of New England!

No FDR, depression caused to break the U.S. into severeal parts, inluding New England commonwelath

Like in now NH and VR, two-year term, possible two reelections

1st: Wilbur Lucius Cross (D-CT), October 13, 1933 - January 2, 1935 (provisional)
2nd: James Michael Curley (D-MA), January 2, 1935 - January 2, 1941
3rd: Theodore F. Green (D-RI), January 2, 1941 - January 2, 1945
4th: H. Styles Bridges (R-NH), January 2, 1945 - January 2, 1951
5th: George D. Aiken (R-VT), January 2, 1951 - January 2, 1953
6th: John O. Pastore (D-RI), January 2, 1953 - January 2, 1959
7th: John F. Kennedy (D-MA), January 2, 1959 - October 23, 1964
8th: John W. King (D-NH), October 23, 1964 - January 2, 1967
9th: John A. Volpe (R-MA), January 2, 1967 - January 2, 1971
10th: Edmund S. Muskie (D-ME), January 2, 1971 - January 2, 1977
11th: Meldrim Thomson, Jr. (R-NH), January 2, 1977 - January 2, 1979
12th: Michael S. Dukakis (D-MA), January 2, 1979 - January 2, 1985
13th: William A. O'Neill (D-CT), January 2, 1985 - January 2, 1989
14th: William F. Weld (R-MA), January 2, 1989 - January 2, 1995
15th: Judd A. Gregg (R-NH), January 2, 1995 - January 2, 1999
16th: Howard B. Dean (D-VT), January 2, 1999 - January 2, 2005
17th: Susan M. Collins (R-ME), January 2, 2005 - January 2, 2009
18th: Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH), January 2, 2009 - present

15, 17: Defeated for third term
7: Died from natural causes
8: V.P. who succeeded the office. Defeated for second full term
9, 13: Declined to run for reelection
5, 11: Defeated after just one term.

Thomson was the most conservative President in Commonwealth and sometimes, along Bridges and, in some degree, Gregg, considered only "really conservative".

The GOP disappears after 1936 :

Franklin D. Roosevelt : 1933-1945
Henry Wallace : 1945-1953
Dwight Eisenhower : 1953-1961
Lyndon Johnson : 1961-1969
Nelson Rockefeller : 1969-1977
Walter Mondale : 1977-1981
Ronald Reagan : 1981-1993
Newt Gingrich : 1993-1997
Al Gore : 1997-2005
John McCain : 2005-2009
Dennis Kucinich : 2009-

After 1936, the Republican Party starts to collapse, and Roosevelt is reelected without any real opposition. An "era of good feelings" begins, with democratic party becoming an ultra-dominant party. However, in the end of 1960's, appears a Conservative party, led by Richar Nixon, and clearly rightist on all issues. After the economic crisis, conservative Ronald Reagan defeats incumbent democratic president Walter Mondale, and since there was no term limit, he remains in office until 1993. However, his successor Newt Gingrich's far-rightist policies permit the rise of the Moderate party, gathering moderates on both sides. After the 2008 economic crisis, moderate president McCain becames unpopular and his defeated by Dennis Kucinich, candidate of the newborn Social-democratic party.

Good list!

Random list...

Ronald Reagan (R-CA) / Robert J. "Bob" Dole (R-KS): 1981-1989
Bruce E. Babbitt (D-AZ) / Mark E. White (D-TX): 1989-1993
George V. Voinovich (R-OH) / Dirk A. Kempthorne (R-ID): 1993-2001
Dirk A. Kempthorne (R-ID) / Richard M. Burr (R-NC): 2001-2005
John F. Kerry (D-MA) / Russel D. Feingold (D-WI): 2005-??

Some of the more talked about political what-ifs?
JFK Lives
John F. Kennedy/(Lyndon Johnson/Terry Sanford) 1961-1969 Kennedy drops Johnson to choose Mr. New South
Nelson Rockefeller/John Rhodes 1969-1973
Robert Kennedy/Scoop Jackson 1973-1981
Ronald Reagan/Gerald Ford 1981-1989
Jack Kemp/Carroll Campbell 1989-1993
Doug Wilder/Bill Bradley 1993-1997
John McCain/Lamar Alexander 1997-2005
Roy Barnes/Skip Humphrey 2005-2013

Bobby Lives...and Wins
Robert Kennedy/Ralph Yarborough 1969-1977 GOP Nominee(s): Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan
Julian Bond/Birch Bayh 1977-1981 GOP Nominee(s): Nelson Rockefeller
Ronald Reagan/Charles Percy 1981-1989 DEM Nominee(s): Julian Bond, John Glenn
Mario Cuomo/Ann Richards 1989-1997 GOP Nominee(s): Bob Dole, Jack Kemp
John McCain/Carroll Campbell-Fred Thompson 1997-2005 Dem Nominee(s): Al Gore, Jeanne Shaheen
John Edwards/Robert Kennedy Jr. 2005-Present GOP Nominee(s): Fred Thompson, Mitt Romney

Ronald Reagan Assasinated
George Bush/Alexander Haig 1981-1989 Bush wins in 1984 partly due to pitty, partly due to some success, defeating Walter Mondale by a much closer margin.
Michael Dukakis/Lloyd Bentsen 1989-1993Defeats Bob Dole in 1988 due to Bush's very low popularity, as he is no "great communicator"
Jack Kemp/Dan Quayle 1993-1997 Defeats Dukakis who can't really turn things around, but runs up against a certain charismatic governor
Bill Clinton/Doug Wilder 1997-2005 Wins a narrow victory over Kemp before beating George W. Bush by a wide margin. Very popular despite well known philandering.
Doug Wilder/John Kerry 2005-2009 Rides on Clinton's popularity to victory over John McCain, but falls to Mitt Romney
Mitt Romney/Jeb Bush 2009-Present

Here is a new list a whipped up based on if Wallace won the Presidency under the Progressive Party. This inturn leads to a domino were both parties end up splitting resulting in a New Two Party System...The Progressives and Conservatives...

By Any other name

33. Harry S. Truman (D-MO): April 12th 1945-January 20th 1949
34. Henry A. Wallace (P-IA): January 20th 1949-January 20th 1953
35. Robert A. Taft (R-OH): January 20th-July 31st 1953*
36. Harold Stasssen (R-MN): July 31st 1953-January 20th 1961
37. Hubert H. Humphrey (P-MN): January 20th 1961-January 20th 1969
38. J. William Fullbright (C-AK): January 20th 1969-January 20th 1977
39. Birch E. Bayh III (P-IN): January 20th 1977-January 20th 1981
40. Phillip M. “Phil” Crane (C-IL): January 20th 1981-January 20th 1989
41. John B. Connally Jr. (C-TX): January 20th 1989-January 20th 1993
42. Thomas R. “Tom” Harkin (P-IA): January 20th 1993-January 20th 2001
43. Lamar Alexander (C-TN): January 20th 2001-January 20th 2009
44. Eric H. Holder Jr. (P-NY): January 20th 2009-???*

Notes.

35. Died in office via cerebral hemorrhage largely due to complications of cancer.
44. First African American President

President / Vice President

Thomas Dewey / Earl Warren  (1949-1953) (Republican)
Adali Stevenson/ John Sparkman (1953-1957) (Democrat)
Earl Warren/ Prescott Bush (1957-1961) (Republican)
John F. Kennedy/ Estes Kefauver (1961-1963) (Democrat)
Estes Kefauver/ Robert B. Meyner (1963-1969) (Democrat)
Richard Nixon/ George Romney (1969-1974) (Republican)
George Romney/ Robert Dole (1974-1985) (Republican)
John Glenn/ Gary Hart (1985-1993) (Democrat)
Robert Dole/ Paul Laxalt (1993-1997) (Republican)
Douglas Wilder/Paul Tsongas (1997-2005) (Democrat)
John Mccain/ Lindsey Graham (2005-2013) (Republican)


Note: 1963- JFK was assignation like real life
          1974- Richard Nixon was impeached like real life
          1996- Douglas Wilder was elected first African-American President

I assume Tsongas had to survive beyond 1977 in your list

41st: George H. W. Bush (TX)/J. Danforth Quayle (IN), January 20, 1989 - January 20, 1993
42nd: Paul E. Tsongas (MA)/William J. Clinton (AR), January 20, 1993 - January 18, 1997
43rd: William J. Clinton (AR), January 18 - January 20, 1997 :P
44th: Jack F. Kemp (NY)/Thomas F. Kean (NJ), January 20, 1997 - January 20, 2001
45th: Albert A. Gore (TN)/D. Robert Graham (FL), January 20, 2001 - January 20, 2009
46th: John S. McCain (AZ)/Michael D. Huckabee (AR), January 20, 2009 - present

Hackish, to say the least.

The Democrats had fallen apart by 1992, as the Conservative and Liberal wings could no longer find an acceptable match-up. As a result, the Democratic party is eventually reduced to the New England area and California. The Reform Party soon takes in the Conservative Democrats, being more moderate than either the Democratic or Republican parties, and eventually eclipses the Democrats. John Edwards, the Reform nominee in 2008, almost defeated Romney, but the sex scandal destroyed his canidacy, which allowed Romney to achieve a narrow victory.

Most of the other Republican Presidential victories are due to either good economic times, or vote-splitting.

Here a short list in memory of the late Walter Cronkite...

And that's the way it is...

37. Richard M. Nixon (R-CA): January 20th 1969-January 20th 1973
38. Walter L. Cronkite Jr. (D-NY):  January 20th 1973-January 20th 1981
39. Charles H. “Chuck” Percy (R-IL): January 20th 1981-March 30th 1983*
40. William E. “Bill” Brock (R-TN): March 40th 1983-January 20th 1989
41. Gary Hart (D-CO): January 20th 1989-January 20th 1993
42. John Chafee (R-RI): January 20th 1993-January 20th 1997
43. Zell Miller (D-GA): January 20th 1997-July 15th 2002*
44. Carol E. Mosley Braun (D-IL): July 15th 2002-January 20th 2005***
45. Lincoln Chafee (R-RI): January 20th 2005-???*

Notes.

39. Assassinated by John Hinckley Jr.
43. Assassinated by Islamic fundamentalists.
44. First African American and First Female President

The two day President, I love it! :)

Yeah, you're President for two day and you got pension, funds, prestige, car and secret service buddies for rest of you life ;)

No Watergate

1969- 1977: Richard Nixon
1977- 1981: John Connally
1981- 1984: Henry "Scoop" Jackson
1984- 1993: Reubin Askew
1993- 2001: Howard Baker
2001- 2005: John McCain
2005- 2009: John Kerry
2009-         : Rudy Giuliani

Out of curiosity, why doesn't Jackson run for re-election? Or did you have him die in '84?

Ok here is my new list for a possible "The Republic of Texas" Survives to the Present Day TL after im done with my Ronnie in '68 TL. I must admit I was reaching toward the end, cuz I belive butterflies would have radically different political figures who wern't even born IOTL be President.

The Eyes of Texas are upon You…

1. Samuel “Sam” Houston (I-Huntsville): October 22nd 1836-December 10th 1838
2. Mirabeau B. Lamar: (I-Laredo): December 10th 1838- December 13th 1841
3. Samuel “Sam” Houston: (I-Huntsville): December 13th 1841-December 9th 1844
4. Barnard E. Bee Sr.(N-Houston): December 9th 1844-December 9th 1847
5. Mirabeau B. Lamar (N-Laredo) December 9th 1847-December 9th 1850
6. Abner S. Lipscomb (N-Brenham): December 9th 1850-December 9th 1853
7. Thomas J. Rusk (H-Nacogdoches): December 9th 1853-December 9th 1856
8. Hardin R. Richards (N-Bowie County): December 9th 1856-December 9th 1859
9. Elisha M. Pease (H-Lampsas): December 9th 1859-December 9th 1862
10. Louis T. Wigfall (N-Galveston: December 9th 1862-December 9th 1865
11. Elisha M. Pease (H-Lampsas): December 9th 1865-December 9th 1868
12. Andrew J. Hamilton (H-Austin): December 9th 1868-December 9th 1871
13. Edmund J. Davis (H-Austin): December 9th 1871-December 9th 1874
14. Hamilton P. Bee (N-San Antonio): December 9th 1874-December 9th 1877
15. Richard Coke (N-Waco): December 9th 1877-December 9th 1880
16. Richard B. Hubbard Jr. (N-Tyler): December 9th 1880-December 9th 1883
17. Richard Coke (N-Waco): December 9th 1883-December 9th 1886
18. Lawrence S. “Sul” Ross (N-Brazos.): December 9th 1886-December 9th 1889
19. John Ireland (N-Seguin): December 9th 1889-December 9th 1891
20. Lawrence S. “Sul” Ross (N-Brazos): December 9th 1891-December 9th 1894
21. James S. “Big Jim” Hogg (P-Houston): December 9th 1894-December 9th 1897
22. Charles A. Culberson (P-Dallas): December 9th 1897-December 9th 1900
23. Joseph D. Sayers (N-Austin): December 9th 1900-December 9th 1903
24. James S. “Big Jim” Hogg (P-Houston): December 9th 1903-March 3 1906*
25. Roger Q. Mills (P-Corsicana): March 3rd-December 9th 1906
26. Thomas M. Campbell (P-Longview): December 9th 1906-December 9th 1909
27. Andrew J. Houston (P-Independence): December 9th 1909-December 9th 1912
28. Oscar B. Colquitt (N-Daingerfield): December 9th 1912-December 9th 1915
29. John Morris Shepard (N-Texarkana): December 9th 1915-December 9th 1918
30. William P. Hobby (N-Houston): December 9th 1918-December 9th 1921
31. James E. “Pa” Ferguson (P-Salado): December 9th 1921-December 9th 1924
32. Miriam A. “Ma” Ferguson (P-Salado): December 9th 1924-December 9th 1927**
33. James E. “Pa” Ferguson (P-Salado): December 9th 1927-December 9th 1930
34. John N. Garner (P-Uvalde): December 9th 1930-December 9th 1933
35. Sam Rayburn (N-Bonham): December 9th 1933-December 9th 1936
36. James V. Alfred (N-Corpus Christi): December 9th 1936-December 9th 1939
37. Sam Rayburn (N-Bonham): December 9th 1939-December 9th 1941
38. Thomas T. “Tom” Connally (N-Waco): December 9th 1941-December 9th 1944
39. James V. Alfred (N-Corpus Christi): December 9th 1944-December 9th 1947
40. Thomas T. “Tom” Connally (N-Waco): December 9th 1947-December 9th 1950
41. Wilbert L. “Pappy” O’Daniel (P-Dallas): December 9th 1950-December 9th 1953
42. Coke R. Stevenson (P-San Angelo): December 9th 1953-December 9th 1956
43. Allen Shivers (P-Austin): December 9th 1956-December 9th 1959
44. Marion P. Daniel Sr.(P-Liberty): December 9th 1959-December 9th 1962
45. Lyndon B. Johnson (N-Stonewall): December 9th 1962-December 9th 1965
46. Ralph W. Yarborugh (N-Austin): December 9th 1965-December 9th 1968
47. John Tower (P-Houston): December 9th 1968-December 9th 1971
48. John Connally (P-Houston): December 9th 1971-December 9th 1974
49. Lloyd M. Bentsen (N-Houston): December 9th 1974-December 9th 1977
50. Dolph Briscoe (P-Uvalde): December 9th 1977-December 9th 1980
51. Lloyd M. Bentsen: (N-Houston): December 9th 1980-December 9th 1983
52. George T. Leland: (N-Houston): December 9th 1983-December 9th 1986**
53. Eligio de la Garza (N-Mercedes): December 9th 1986-December 9th 1989**
54. Ann Richards (N-Austin): December 9th 1989-December 9th 1992**
55. Robert D. “Bob” Bullock (P-Austin): December 9th 1992-December 9th 1995
56. Ross Perot (I-Texarkana): December 9th 1995-December 9th 1998
57. James R. “Rick” Perry (P-Austin): December 9th 1998-December 9th 2001
58. Ron E. Paul (P-Lake Jackson): December 9th 2001-December 9th 2004
59. James R. “Rick” Perry (P-Austin): December 9th 2004-December 9th 2007
60. Richard S. “Kinky” Friedman (N-Medina) December 9th 2007-???**

Notes.

24. Died in office due to a Railroad accident.
32. First Female President
52. First African-Texan President
53. First Tejano President
54. Second Female President
60. First Jewish-Texan President.

N: Stands for the Nationalist Party, established in 1843 by Lamar, representing the anti-annexation, pro-slavery and pro-expansion political wing. Essentially the same as OTL Democrats, until the Great Depression and Dust Bowl which enabled them to become the big government and was able to pull away significant minority votes. The Nationalists in 2009 are a left to center party where the strong holds are border towns and the big urban areas.

H: Stood for the Houstonian Party, After Henry Clay’s victory in 1844(POD), The Pro Annexation wing that supported the nation’s 1st President eventually coalesced into the namesake party. Essentially the same as OTL 19th Century, the Houstonians wanted friendly relations with Native Americans, Abolitionists and generally Ameriphile. They also kept Texas neutral during the War of Secession, but were unable to win an election against Coke’s new Nationalist Party.

P: Populist Party, after the dissolution of the Houstonian Party in the 1890’s, many of the Pro-Farm faction of the party were caught up in the growing Populist movement in the US. The Party from the 1890’s to arguably the 1960’s, the party was a fiscally conservative, Pro-Farm, Pro Civil Rights for blacks that capitalized on the Progressive era of the early 1900’s. After the New Age policies of the Nation lists under Rayburn, the Populists shifted to the Center to Right Party it is today

Two Term POTROT’s: Sam Houston, Mireabeau Lamar, Elisha M. Pease, Richard Coke, Sul Ross, Big Jim Hogg, Pa Ferguson, Sam Rayburn, John V. Alfred, Tom Connally, and Rick Perry.

I am glad neo-con Republicans were for only eight years. I agree neo-libs are no better, but this alternative history shows alot more loyal Registered Republicans than during a real republican presidential administration. the Democrats had a powerhouse from 1932-1952 with FDR and Truman, but not that good.

Duverger's Law.

But Bush served three terms?

The 22nd amendment was never passed, therefore not setting any term limits. Eisenhower also served three terms, though Nixon did most of the real work in that final term. Bush had been planning on running for a fourth, but the War in Iran, starting in 2005, had grown unpopular, and he opted out in 2007.

You should come up with a list of US Presidents. It JFK is still elected President ITTL, looks like he will not make a trip to Dallas on November 22, 1963.