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Title: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: Mr. Morden on March 30, 2007, 09:18:01 AM
link:

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/03/the_1st_quarter_1.html

As The Hotline notes, five of the "big six" candidates are already raising $ for the general election as well, but of course that general election $ can't be used for the primary, so it's irrelevant from the perspective of the primary.  So the "real numbers" will be the $ raised for the primary, whereas the following predictions include both primary and general:

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Straight to the point: here are our final predictions, based on reporting with key campaign figures and donors. These figures represent totals -- money raised for both the primary AND the general election accounts.

Yes -- this means that most candidates will be well under the expectations set for them by the media (us included).

Sen. Hillary Clinton will raise between $23M and $28M.

Sen. John McCain will raise between $18M and $22M.

Sen. Barack Obama will raise between $18M and $24M.

Ex-MA Gov. Mitt Romney will raise between $19M and $21M. ** Romney is not raising general election money yet.

Ex-Sen. John Edwards will raise between $13M and $17M.

Ex-NYC Mayor Rudy Giuliani will raise between $12M and $15M.

These figures do not include transfers from other accounts or from the final quarter of '06.

Yes, we're saying that Sen. Obama could outraise HRC.

Burn rates are more difficult to forecast. If Sen. Hillary Clinton winds up with about $16M in the bank, that would track our expectations. Sen. Obama would impress us if he kept about $10-12M. Sen. McCain would need to keep around $15M. Gov. Mitt Romney should have more than $10M in the bank. Edwards and Giuliani will have less.


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: WalterMitty on March 30, 2007, 04:34:37 PM
im predicting chris dodd raised $100 or so.


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: Deano963 on March 30, 2007, 05:22:17 PM

These figures do not include transfers from other accounts or from the final quarter of '06.


Wow. So Hillary Clinton's projected fundraising of $23 - $28 million dosen't even include the $11 million she transferred from her Senate account? Damn - that means she will have raised between $34 and $39 million.

im predicting chris dodd raised $100 or so.

Yeh....as Chairman of the uber-powerful Banking Committee, absolutley no one wants to give him any money ::). He'll probably raise $8-$9 million.


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: Eraserhead on March 30, 2007, 10:36:52 PM
im predicting chris dodd raised $100 or so.

Did you donate $100?


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: WalterMitty on March 31, 2007, 07:16:27 AM

hah!  no.

in that case my prediction may be a bit high.


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on April 01, 2007, 04:54:54 PM
Word is that Edwards has over $14M. $1M of that is for the general election.


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: Eraserhead on April 01, 2007, 06:15:45 PM
Word is that Edwards has over $14M. $1M of that is for the general election.

Meh.


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: Eraserhead on April 01, 2007, 06:25:20 PM
This sounds like bull to me but I'm hearing rumors that Obama raised like $35 million. I'm thinking about $23 million sounds about right.


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: Padfoot on April 01, 2007, 06:54:36 PM
This sounds like bull to me but I'm hearing rumors that Obama raised like $35 million. I'm thinking about $23 million sounds about right.

according to the reports in the Atlas News Aggregator Obama has raised somewhere around $22 million.  Clinton raised about $26 million plus another $10 million left over from her Senate campaign.


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: Tender Branson on April 02, 2007, 07:37:42 AM
"In the Republican presidential primary, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee told CNN he expected to raise $500,000 in the first quarter and show $300,000 in the bank."

WOW, THATS A LOT OF MONEY ! :P


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: Mr. Morden on April 02, 2007, 08:29:56 AM
"In the Republican presidential primary, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee told CNN he expected to raise $500,000 in the first quarter and show $300,000 in the bank."

That's pretty bad....though not as bad as Gilmore:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0307/3335.html

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Gilmore did not hold his first fundraiser until Monday, a week before the end of the first quarter. His campaign consultant, Christian Josi, said Gilmore raised $200,000 and will pick up the fundraising pace in the second quarter.

OK, so it looks like Gilmore and Huckabee are likely out of the running for 4th place in the GOP $ race this quarter.  I wonder who's going to come in 4th.  I guess it would either be Brownback, Hunter, or T. Thompson.


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: Tender Branson on April 02, 2007, 08:48:31 AM
"In the Republican presidential primary, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee told CNN he expected to raise $500,000 in the first quarter and show $300,000 in the bank."

That's pretty bad....though not as bad as Gilmore:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0307/3335.html

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Gilmore did not hold his first fundraiser until Monday, a week before the end of the first quarter. His campaign consultant, Christian Josi, said Gilmore raised $200,000 and will pick up the fundraising pace in the second quarter.

OK, so it looks like Gilmore and Huckabee are likely out of the running for 4th place in the GOP $ race this quarter.  I wonder who's going to come in 4th.  I guess it would either be Brownback, Hunter, or T. Thompson.

I think Mike Huckabees first campaign goal is to mail every registered voter in the US a ball-pen case with "Mike Huckabee 2008" written across (estimated cost: 200.000 US-$ and gamble and eat away the rest ... ;)

Remember: Bill Cliton didn´t have much money either when he started ...


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: Mr. Morden on April 02, 2007, 08:55:19 AM
Remember: Bill Cliton didn´t have much money either when he started ...

But neither did anyone else.  No one was raising $6 million a month back then.


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: Mr. Morden on April 02, 2007, 10:31:04 AM
The Hotline is now saying that Romney has raised $23 million for the first quarter, which should put him in the lead on the GOP side.  And Giuliani has raised "more than $15 million" for the quarter (though that probably includes some general election $, unlike Romney).  They also say "Our educated estimate is that, of the top tier Republicans, McCain will raise the third most amount of money and have the third most on hand."

Ouch.  Not good for McCain if that really is the case.  Most people were expecting that he'd at least finish ahead of Giuliani.


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: Mr. Morden on April 02, 2007, 10:34:37 AM
Update: Now the Hotline is saying this:

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/04/the_order.html

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So far as we can tell...

1. Romney
2. Clinton or Obama
3. Obama or Clinton.
+++++++++++++++
GAP
++++++++++++++++
4,5,6: Giuliani, McCain and Edwards
++++++++++++++++
GAP
++++++++++++++++
Richardson
++++++++++++++++
GAP
++++++++++++++++
Dodd, Biden

Yes, they put Romney ahead of even Clinton.  Presumably because more than $3 million of Clinton's $26 million for the quarter is general election $, whereas all of Romney's $23 million is for the primary.


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: Mr. Morden on April 02, 2007, 01:33:27 PM
Another update: The Hotline now says McCain raised just $12.5 million for the first quarter--a bit less than Giuliani and only about half as much as Romney raised:

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/04/mccains_stateme.html


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on April 02, 2007, 02:04:41 PM
Another update: The Hotline now says McCain raised just $12.5 million for the first quarter--a bit less than Giuliani and only about half as much as Romney raised:

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/04/mccains_stateme.html

Hey, he had more donors than Hillary.


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: WalterMitty on April 02, 2007, 02:17:55 PM
i tried to tell you all romney is a serious candidate.

but no you all wouldnt take my word for it.

OMFG HE FLIP FLOPPED ON ABORTION!!111

who cares?


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: TheresNoMoney on April 02, 2007, 02:44:43 PM
That's an amazing number for Romney.

McCain's total isn't very impressive, but the number of donors is.


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: Deano963 on April 02, 2007, 05:22:34 PM
i tried to tell you all romney is a serious candidate.


You honestly believe that the ability to raise a lot of money by maxing out a lot of big-dollar donors in one quarter makes one a serious candidate?

Wow.

Maybe after I hear Romney actually take a position an ANYTHING WHATSOEVER, and then maybe 6 months later if he has managed to not completely flip-flop his position on said issue, I will regard him as a serious candidate.


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: WalterMitty on April 02, 2007, 05:28:42 PM
romney absolutely is a serious candidate.  ive always predicted him to be the nominee and i stand by that prediction.  ( i do not support romney, in fact, im not a big romney fan at all)

this isnt a good day for the dodd campaign.  so much for that 7-9 million estimate.


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: Deano963 on April 02, 2007, 05:51:51 PM
romney absolutely is a serious candidate.  ive always predicted him to be the nominee and i stand by that prediction.  ( i do not support romney, in fact, im not a big romney fan at all)

Well, you also predicted that Kerry Healey would beat Deval Patrick, and she ended up getting her ass handed to her. So don't take it personally when I say I don't put too much stock in your predictions.


this isnt a good day for the dodd campaign.  so much for that 7-9 million estimate.

Well, he raised $4 million and transferred $5 million from his Senate account for a total of $9 million, so he did raise $9 million if you count the transfer. Either way, it's sure a heck of a lot more than the $100 you predicted he would raise.


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: skybridge on April 02, 2007, 06:00:25 PM
Romney certainly is a serious candidate. Nobody raised his kind of money, won as many endorsements or built a comparatively strong organization the way he did. Romney ran a more sophisticated campaign in a month than people like McCain did in four years! I don't think he'd make a strong general election candidate at all, but there's hardly any stopping him from winning the GOP nomination.


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: WalterMitty on April 02, 2007, 06:07:34 PM
this isnt a good day for the dodd campaign.  so much for that 7-9 million estimate.

Well, he raised $4 million and transferred $5 million from his Senate account for a total of $9 million, so he did raise $9 million if you count the transfer. Either way, it's sure a heck of a lot more than the $100 you predicted he would raise.

facetious: 
1.   not meant to be taken seriously or literally:


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on April 02, 2007, 07:05:52 PM
The Obama campaign is being coy. Has everyone else's numbers been released?


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: Deano963 on April 02, 2007, 07:10:04 PM

facetious: 
1.   not meant to be taken seriously or literally:

As in your election predictions? Duly noted.


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: Verily on April 02, 2007, 07:10:53 PM
The Obama campaign is being coy. Has everyone else's numbers been released?

Obama either didn't do very well and is trying to wait for the storm to pass or outperformed Clinton (and Romney?) and wants to get the headlines all to himself.

FWIW, I got a fundraising call from the Obama campaign last week. No one else has called me.


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: Mr. Morden on April 02, 2007, 07:21:41 PM
The Obama campaign is being coy. Has everyone else's numbers been released?

On the Democratic side, I think everyone's numbers have been released except Obama, Kucinich, and Gravel.  On the GOP side, Giuliani, McCain, and Romney have all released their numbers, but most of the second tier candidates (like Brownback, Hunter, Gov. Thompson, etc.) have not.


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: Eraserhead on April 02, 2007, 07:23:42 PM
A couple more days until Obama's numbers come out. I think they will be big.


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: Deano963 on April 02, 2007, 07:51:43 PM
A couple more days until Obama's numbers come out. I think they will be big.

It would be so awesome if he raised more than Clinton.


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: Eraserhead on April 02, 2007, 10:21:58 PM
A couple more days until Obama's numbers come out. I think they will be big.

It would be so awesome if he raised more than Clinton.

Yeah especially since all the headlines have prematurely said "Hillary wins Round 1". I'm not getting my hopes up though.


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: Bay Ridge, Bklyn! Born and Bred on April 02, 2007, 10:55:30 PM
Romney certainly is a serious candidate. Nobody raised his kind of money, won as many endorsements or built a comparatively strong organization the way he did. Romney ran a more sophisticated campaign in a month than people like McCain did in four years! I don't think he'd make a strong general election candidate at all, but there's hardly any stopping him from winning the GOP nomination.


You don't think Mitt Romney would be a strong candidate in the general election?  LMAO.  As weak as he is, just take a look at who his potential opponents are:  a shrill New York hag with no chance in hell of winning the presidency even if Satan himself were the GOP nominee, a one-term liberal black senator, and another one-term senator ex-trial lawyer.  At least Mitt Romney can point to some sort of accomplishments during his tenure as governor

I predict the 2008 election to be eerily similar to the 1988 election Bush versus Dukasis.  Easy win for the GOP


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on April 02, 2007, 10:57:27 PM
At least Mitt Romney can point to some sort of accomplishments during his tenure as governor

Must be why his approval ratings back in MA are so sky-high.


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: Bay Ridge, Bklyn! Born and Bred on April 02, 2007, 11:08:41 PM
At least Mitt Romney can point to some sort of accomplishments during his tenure as governor

Must be why his approval ratings back in MA are so sky-high.

Completely irrelevent.  Republicans only need to point out the fact that he cut taxes, contrast that to the Democratic frontrunners with no known accomplishments of any kind (except maybe if you want to consider voting to authorize President Bush to go to war with Iraq as an "accomplishment"), and bingo, you get yourself a strong GOP candidate in the general election.

The turning points in this whole campaign were 2 key important dates: October 12, 2006 and December 16, 2006, the days Mark Warner and Evan Bayh exited the race.  The rest is a foregone conclusion: for those of you actually believe Hillary, Obama, or Edwards are going to become the 44th President of the United States are delusional


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: Deano963 on April 02, 2007, 11:36:58 PM
Oh look - the cute little troll who pretends to be a Democrat is back.


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on April 02, 2007, 11:41:06 PM
At least Mitt Romney can point to some sort of accomplishments during his tenure as governor

Must be why his approval ratings back in MA are so sky-high.

Completely irrelevent.  Republicans only need to point out the fact that he cut taxes, contrast that to the Democratic frontrunners with no known accomplishments of any kind (except maybe if you want to consider voting to authorize President Bush to go to war with Iraq as an "accomplishment"), and bingo, you get yourself a strong GOP candidate in the general election.

The turning points in this whole campaign were 2 key important dates: October 12, 2006 and December 16, 2006, the days Mark Warner and Evan Bayh exited the race.  The rest is a foregone conclusion: for those of you actually believe Hillary, Obama, or Edwards are going to become the 44th President of the United States are delusional

I suggest you put all of your life's savings into PRESIDENT.REP2008 at InTrade.


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: Tender Branson on April 02, 2007, 11:46:05 PM
If Obama comes in with something like a 20 Mio. +, Democrats outraised Republicans by 75 to 50 Mio.

Didn´t the Republicans always have the fundraising edge ? Until now ?


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: skybridge on April 03, 2007, 03:12:05 AM
Romney certainly is a serious candidate. Nobody raised his kind of money, won as many endorsements or built a comparatively strong organization the way he did. Romney ran a more sophisticated campaign in a month than people like McCain did in four years! I don't think he'd make a strong general election candidate at all, but there's hardly any stopping him from winning the GOP nomination.


You don't think Mitt Romney would be a strong candidate in the general election?  LMAO.  As weak as he is, just take a look at who his potential opponents are:  a shrill New York hag with no chance in hell of winning the presidency even if Satan himself were the GOP nominee, a one-term liberal black senator, and another one-term senator ex-trial lawyer.  At least Mitt Romney can point to some sort of accomplishments during his tenure as governor

I predict the 2008 election to be eerily similar to the 1988 election Bush versus Dukasis.  Easy win for the GOP


Romney embodies everything people currently dislike about the GOP and that's not going to help in 2008. However, I never said he might not have a trick or two up his sleeve.


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: Bay Ridge, Bklyn! Born and Bred on April 03, 2007, 09:30:33 AM
Oh look - the cute little troll who pretends to be a Democrat is back.

Beano69,

fine then.  i'm an independent.  my first ever vote I cast for Kerry in 2004 and then Jim Webb in 2006, but if the Democrats are stupid enough to nominate your man Hillary and if you're delusional enough to think he has a chance, then knock yourselves out and nominate him.   I'll just vote Independent.

and if Im such a troll, then ignore me, don't respond.  Why do you make such an effort to go out of your way and post angry, wild-eyed hysterical rantings claiming I'm Karl Rove and a Republican in disguise?  my guess is that you know I'm right and you secretly realize that the situation is not good for the Democrats and you're going to lose the White House (again) in 2008 because of the long history of nominating crappy candidates


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: YRABNNRM on April 03, 2007, 10:59:13 AM
Looks like Obama's pulled in $20 million.


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on April 03, 2007, 11:04:02 AM
Looks like Obama's pulled in $20 million.

EXCELLENT!


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: WalterMitty on April 03, 2007, 11:16:02 AM
http://www.courant.com/news/politics/hc-dodd0403.artapr03,0,6738819.story?track=rss

:(

please make checks payable to the dodd for president committee.


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: YRABNNRM on April 03, 2007, 11:17:40 AM
Biden only got $2 million?

I wonder who's dropping out first...


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: Eraserhead on April 03, 2007, 01:58:38 PM

I've heard rumours of numbers from $17 million all the way to $35 million. It is most likely around $21-23 but we won't know for sure until he announces it some time over the next few days.


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: Boris on April 03, 2007, 03:18:24 PM
Can someone explain to me what donors see in Romney? Were I a Republican, I'd invest my money in either Giuliani or Thompson, assuming the latter runs.


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: skybridge on April 03, 2007, 04:31:29 PM
Can someone explain to me what donors see in Romney? Were I a Republican, I'd invest my money in either Giuliani or Thompson, assuming the latter runs.

He's one of them. He can be fully trusted with their money. People like Giuliani or Thompson might think they're so great in their own right that they can follow their own path instead of returning favors. But trust Romney with your money and it will pay off. He won't flop where it matters.


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: Eraserhead on April 03, 2007, 05:14:18 PM
Can someone explain to me what donors see in Romney? Were I a Republican, I'd invest my money in either Giuliani or Thompson, assuming the latter runs.

He's one of them. He can be fully trusted with their money. People like Giuliani or Thompson might think they're so great in their own right that they can follow their own path instead of returning favors. But trust Romney with your money and it will pay off. He won't flop where it matters.

Basically he's a tool.


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: Deano963 on April 03, 2007, 05:19:43 PM
Oh look - the cute little troll who pretends to be a Democrat is back.

Beano69,

fine then.  i'm an independent. 


Well, at least I finally got you stop lying about your party ID.

Now if only I could force some sense into that tiny, ignorant head of yours........

I wont get my hopes up. I'm not a miracle worker.


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: Deano963 on April 03, 2007, 05:29:11 PM
Oh look - the cute little troll who pretends to be a Democrat is back.

  my first ever vote I cast for Kerry in 2004 and then Jim Webb in 2006,

LOL liar. What a frickin liar.


 but if the Democrats are stupid enough to nominate your man Hillary and if you're delusional enough to think he has a chance, then knock yourselves out and nominate him.   I'll just vote Independent.

"My" man Hillary. When did I ever say I was for Hillary? Fact is that I never did. The fact that you can't argue with me w/out making sh**t up and putting words in my mouth only reinforces my belief that you area troll and an idiot to boot. Not an ounce of intelligence in any of your idiotic rants.

Maybe I will begin to take you serisouly when you can say one single thing w/out putting words in my mouth that I never siad.

I suspect you do this b/c you can't argue with me based on that facts b/c you know I am right ;).


and if Im such a troll, then ignore me, don't respond.  Why do you make such an effort to go out of your way and post angry, wild-eyed hysterical rantings claiming I'm Karl Rove and a Republican in disguise? 

Wow - again, you make up crazy sh**t that I never said. Never accused you of being Karl Rove. Only someone as dimwitted as you would even think up something so stupid.

my guess is that you know I'm right and you secretly realize that the situation is not good for the Democrats and you're going to lose the White House (again) in 2008 because of the long history of nominating crappy candidates

LOL! My God you are dumb. You may not be a troll, but if you really do believe half of the sh**t you say (like when you say that things are not good for the Democrats right now), then you are unbelievably stupid.
If you really think that the current political situation is not good for the Democrats right now, you must have been asleep for the past five months, or delusional. The only thing I have ever heard that is even dumber is the suggestion that Mitt Romney would easily beat any of the Democratic candidates in the General Election.


After multiple warnings with regard to not posting such personal attacks, this is the kind of post that gets one banned ... - Dave


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: Deano963 on April 03, 2007, 05:33:15 PM
Can someone explain to me what donors see in Romney? Were I a Republican, I'd invest my money in either Giuliani or Thompson, assuming the latter runs.

Well, one thing that should be noted about Romney is that he only had 30,00 donors (McCain, who only raised 12.5 million, had 60,00 donors). That really is quite pathetic, and what it likely means is that all he did was get a lot of rich, mega-donors to max out for both the primary and the general election already.

Romney remains a pathetically weak candidate who did nothing but put on a show for a quarter. He may be able to keep it up for one more quarter, but no more. He has no small donor base, and is very unlikely to develop one as his GOP primary opponents start to point to his monumental flip-flops and poor record.


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: Mr. Morden on April 03, 2007, 08:47:35 PM
More numbers:

http://www2.ljworld.com/blogs/brownback_report/2007/apr/03/brownback_report/

Quote
Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback's campaign said it raised $1.3 million and transferred $575,000 from his Senate campaign. Colorado Rep. Tom Tancredo, who announced his candidacy Monday, told the Associated Press that he has raised a little more than $1 million. (CNN reports that former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee's campaign raised $500,000.)

Still no word on the fundraising numbers from Duncan Hunter or Tommy Thompson, so we don't know who came in 4th in GOP fundraising....either Brownback, Hunter, or Thompson.


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: MasterJedi on April 04, 2007, 12:39:50 AM
I believe Tommy Thompson said he's going to release the fundraising figures on the 15th.


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: YRABNNRM on April 04, 2007, 12:43:39 AM
O/T: I saw Tommy on "Hardball" and his hair terrified me.


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: skybridge on April 04, 2007, 01:52:23 AM
Can someone explain to me what donors see in Romney? Were I a Republican, I'd invest my money in either Giuliani or Thompson, assuming the latter runs.
Romney remains a pathetically weak candidate who did nothing but put on a show for a quarter.

Yeah, setting the fundraising record and winning the straw poll are such signs of weakness. Even if his numbers aren't there yet otherwise, he knows better than anyone how to "turn things around." The stakes are too high for his campaign to fail.


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: Bay Ridge, Bklyn! Born and Bred on April 04, 2007, 10:21:46 AM
Oh look - the cute little troll who pretends to be a Democrat is back.

  my first ever vote I cast for Kerry in 2004 and then Jim Webb in 2006,

LOL liar. What a frickin liar.


 but if the Democrats are stupid enough to nominate your man Hillary and if you're delusional enough to think he has a chance, then knock yourselves out and nominate him.   I'll just vote Independent.

"My" man Hillary. When did I ever say I was for Hillary? Fact is that I never did. The fact that you can't argue with me w/out making sh**t up and putting words in my mouth only reinforces my belief that you area troll and an idiot to boot. Not an ounce of intelligence in any of your idiotic rants.

Maybe I will begin to take you serisouly when you can say one single thing w/out putting words in my mouth that I never siad.

I suspect you do this b/c you can't argue with me based on that facts b/c you know I am right ;).


and if Im such a troll, then ignore me, don't respond.  Why do you make such an effort to go out of your way and post angry, wild-eyed hysterical rantings claiming I'm Karl Rove and a Republican in disguise? 

Wow - again, you make up crazy sh**t that I never said. Never accused you of being Karl Rove. Only someone as dimwitted as you would even think up something so stupid.

my guess is that you know I'm right and you secretly realize that the situation is not good for the Democrats and you're going to lose the White House (again) in 2008 because of the long history of nominating crappy candidates

LOL! My God you are dumb. You may not be a troll, but if you really do believe half of the sh**t you say (like when you say that things are not good for the Democrats right now), then you are unbelievably stupid.
If you really think that the current political situation is not good for the Democrats right now, you must have been asleep for the past five months, or delusional. The only thing I have ever heard that is even dumber is the suggestion that Mitt Romney would easily beat any of the Democratic candidates in the General Election.


After multiple warnings with regard to not posting such personal attacks, this is the kind of post that gets one banned ... - Dave


Naw, don't ban him.  I believe in free speech, even for raving mad lunatics.  Deano is just a paid Hillary poster and is angry his man Hillary is losing in the polls to Fred Thompson. LOL!

and you called me a liar because i said I voted for Kerry and Jim Webb?  yeah, okay whatever.  Now go crawl back under your bridge, troll


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: YRABNNRM on April 04, 2007, 10:34:47 AM
Naw, don't ban him.  I believe in free speech, even for raving mad lunatics. 

Free speech doesn't matter on a private message board.

Anyway, it looks like Obama raised $25 million now...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070404/ap_on_el_pr/obama_money


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: Tender Branson on April 04, 2007, 10:49:06 AM
Naw, don't ban him.  I believe in free speech, even for raving mad lunatics. 

Free speech doesn't matter on a private message board.

Anyway, it looks like Obama raised $25 million now...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070404/ap_on_el_pr/obama_money

Yep:

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:)


Title: Re: final 1st quarter fundraising predictions from The Hotline
Post by: Mr. Morden on April 10, 2007, 09:16:37 AM
Some new numbers from the second tier candidates on the GOP side are coming in:

link (http://www.postcrescent.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070406/APC0101/70406123/1003/APC01)

It now looks like:

Romney $23 million
Giuliani $15 million
McCain $12.5 million
Brownback $2 million
Huckabee $500,000
Hunter $500,000
T. Thompson $400,000
Gilmore $200,000

So Brownback ends up coming in fourth.

(And again, an unspecified portion of the Giuliani and McCain totals is general election money, which can't be used in the primary.  I don't think any of the other Republicans are already raising general election $.)