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Title: 10 fattest states
Post by: Padfoot on November 22, 2007, 01:41:06 AM
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1. Mississippi
2. Alabama
3. West Virginia
4. Louisiana
5. South Carolina (tie)
5. Tennessee (tie)
7. Kentucky
8. Arkansas
9. Indiana (tie)
9. Michigan (tie)


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: ottermax on November 22, 2007, 01:55:31 AM
I'm not very surprised. People especially in the West Coast have a strong social stigma against obesity. It can be discriminatory at times, but mostly it pressures people to not eat. I see it a lot at school, and all of the Hollywood stars affect it in California too.


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: Gabu on November 22, 2007, 02:09:20 AM
Wow, I had a feeling it'd be localized, but I had no idea it'd be that extreme.

Insert obligatory "LOL DEEP SOUTH" comment here.


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: bgwah on November 22, 2007, 02:39:45 AM
Well now we know what happened to StatesRights. He moved to Mississippi!


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: King on November 22, 2007, 03:17:52 AM
Nearly every fried food you can think of was created in the South so this should come as no surprise.


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: memphis on November 22, 2007, 03:26:47 AM
It's really hard to stay in shape in the South. Cities are very sprawled out and not walkable. Plus, it's too hot and humid for a lot of activity.


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: dead0man on November 22, 2007, 06:25:12 AM
The top 10 dumbest states is quite similar isn't' it?  I'm guessing that isn't a coincidence.


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: Alcon on November 22, 2007, 02:17:40 PM
The top 10 dumbest states is quite similar isn't' it?  I'm guessing that isn't a coincidence.

That list was fake.


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: Verily on November 22, 2007, 02:31:18 PM
Obesity rate by state:

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Red
70%: >27% obese (Mississippi, Alabama, West Virginia and Louisiana)
60%: >25% obese
50%: >23% obese

Blue
50%: >21% obese
60%: >19% obese
70%: >17% obese
80%: <17% obese (only Colorado, at 16.9%)


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck on November 22, 2007, 02:52:27 PM
lol..... oh the south....


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: Ban my account ffs! on November 22, 2007, 04:39:50 PM
And Minnesotans are relatively fat for participating the most in physical activities... it's all the hot dish and Cool Whip infused jello salad


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 22, 2007, 07:48:31 PM
Looking at the map, the link between class and obesity is pretty obvious, though nowhere near perfect (Wisconsin? Maryland?)


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: Ban my account ffs! on November 22, 2007, 08:10:23 PM
Looking at the map, the link between class and obesity is pretty obvious, though nowhere near perfect (Wisconsin? Maryland?)

It's much more complex than that.

Class, culture, traditional foods, availability of physical activities, location all factor in.

Colorado is skinnier than the rest of us because a lot of active people move there since they have so many outdoor activities.


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: Eraserhead on November 22, 2007, 08:12:23 PM
Poor Michigan. It got lumped in with the hillbilly belt.


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: jokerman on November 22, 2007, 08:21:53 PM
Arkansas has been making progress in this field.


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 22, 2007, 08:57:33 PM
I'm suprised Oklahoma is not in the top 10, considering we have the most fast food joints per capita in the United States.  Not a statistic to be proud of.  I know we have to be 11, 12, or 13.


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: memphis on November 22, 2007, 10:25:32 PM
I'm surprised Wisconsin isn't fatter with its cheese, brats, and beer.


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: Small Business Owner of Any Repute on November 22, 2007, 10:33:20 PM
Glad to see Massachusetts clocking in as one of the least fat states.


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: Alcon on November 23, 2007, 12:14:05 PM
Montana is interesting.


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 23, 2007, 01:10:47 PM

"Nowhere near perfect" always indicates that something is complicated :)

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Colorado is skinnier than the rest of us because a lot of active people move there since they have so many outdoor activities.

It's also one of the most midd... ah no that means something different in the U.S... ah... bourgeois, yes, that ought to do, bourgeois parts of North America.


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: Padfoot on November 23, 2007, 01:51:57 PM

I have relatives who are cattle ranchers and they're all super skinny.  Their meals are always well balanced and they spend their entire day doing manual labor to keep the ranch running.  Also, there aren't that many fast food places out in ranch country.


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: 12th Doctor on November 23, 2007, 02:11:19 PM
Looking at the map, the link between class and obesity is pretty obvious, though nowhere near perfect (Wisconsin? Maryland?)

Agreed.  The irony of our age (and in the first world) is that poor people are the most likely to be fat.

I'm surprised that PA wasn't higher acctually.


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: bullmoose88 on November 23, 2007, 02:28:08 PM
Looking at the map, the link between class and obesity is pretty obvious, though nowhere near perfect (Wisconsin? Maryland?)

Agreed.  The irony of our age (and in the first world) is that poor people are the most likely to be fat.

I'm surprised that PA wasn't higher acctually.


My guess...given how the map looks, eastern pa is probably very much like NY/NJ, and that balances out (somewhat, save philadelphia itself) the heavier trend shown in the west...

I wonder if theres also some correlation between %African American and placement on the chart...I wonder because of the higher rates of heart disease and lower rates of income (the poor as a whole might be eating in a less healthy fashion)


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: bullmoose88 on November 23, 2007, 02:31:27 PM
Well...not because of higher rates of heart disease, but in correlation to...


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on November 23, 2007, 03:04:49 PM
Well...not because of higher rates of heart disease, but in correlation to...

Rates of death caused by heart disease in the U.K correlate very closely to class. For what it's worth.


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: opebo on November 23, 2007, 04:18:55 PM
Of course it is all attributable to class.  Not only is it necessary for these poors to be fed cheaply during their brief working lives, it is preferable for their owners that they die at a young age - ideally just before 'retirement'.  Most importantly however, They have very cheap, low-quality, almost inedible foodstuffs must be sold at a high profit - or in other words force-fed to these much abused powerless garbage disposals.


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on November 23, 2007, 04:23:51 PM
Lowest % with a Bachelors:
51. WV
50. AR
49. MS
48. KY
47. IN
46. AL
45. LA
44. WY
43. OK
42. NC
41. ID

http://www.statemaster.com/graph/edu_bac_deg_or_hig_by_per-bachelor-s-degree-higher-percentage


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: Verily on November 23, 2007, 04:24:53 PM
Lowest % with a Bachelors:
51. WV
50. AR
49. MS
48. KY
47. IN
46. AL
45. LA
44. WY
43. OK
42. NC
41. ID

http://www.statemaster.com/graph/edu_bac_deg_or_hig_by_per-bachelor-s-degree-higher-percentage

Another class correlation (and a stronger one).


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on November 23, 2007, 04:30:56 PM
YEAH!  Go Michigan!  Oh wait, this is a BAD thing that Michigan's in the top 10 for.  I knew we'd be on this list though - just walking around, we're incredibly fat.  Or the skinny people live in Detroit, and they just get shot.


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on November 23, 2007, 05:19:36 PM
Do you have a source for this?  I wanted to do a blog post on it, but I need a little more details to work with.


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: Verily on November 23, 2007, 10:51:35 PM
Do you have a source for this?  I wanted to do a blog post on it, but I need a little more details to work with.

http://apps.carleton.edu/MindBodySpirit/lifestyles/assets/US_obesity.jpg

Or, better but less precise:

http://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/dnpa/obesity/trend/maps/

I was using the 2004 data; the 2006 data are even worse. (Mississippi and West Virginia have surpassed 30%.)


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: Ban my account ffs! on November 23, 2007, 11:53:16 PM
This is also based on BMI, though, and I think race/ethnicity has something to do with it, just for the fact of body size/mass.

Minnesota has always been on the heavier side despite being a healthy, active state with a high median income and a well-educated population.

We also have a lot of Scandinavian and German roots here, so people are quite tall and generally bigger than people in other parts of the country.  According to the BMI, Michael Jordan and most football players are borderline obese... despite being quite healthy.

So, this isn't 100% accurate.


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on November 24, 2007, 08:18:11 PM
I think the 5 fattest cities are:

1.   Memphis, Tennessee
2.   Birmingham, Alabama
3.   San Antonio, Texas
4.   Riverside, California
5.   Detroit, Michigan (I think???)

Oklahoma City is #8, just like I thought.

I found it on Yahoo News, but I can't find the link anymore, so I can't post one.


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: Alcon on November 26, 2007, 01:05:35 PM
Do you have a source for this?  I wanted to do a blog post on it, but I need a little more details to work with.

Source: Yo momma.

Actual source: This (http://www.statemaster.com/graph/hea_obe_rat-health-obesity-rate).


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on November 26, 2007, 09:08:31 PM
Do you have a source for this?  I wanted to do a blog post on it, but I need a little more details to work with.

Source: Yo momma.

Actual source: This (http://www.statemaster.com/graph/hea_obe_rat-health-obesity-rate).

No - that's 2001 - and MI's #3 there.


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: Aizen on November 26, 2007, 09:11:03 PM
Obesity rate by state:

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Red
70%: >27% obese (Mississippi, Alabama, West Virginia and Louisiana)
60%: >25% obese
50%: >23% obese

Blue
50%: >21% obese
60%: >19% obese
70%: >17% obese
80%: <17% obese (only Colorado, at 16.9%)


Aww yeah Colorado. Regardless, 16.9% is a still a high number


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: Gabu on November 28, 2007, 02:25:24 AM
Kind of cool, kind of sickening:
Trend Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhx7BFqxODY)

Wow, now that's scary.


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: Jaggerjack on December 01, 2007, 02:03:02 PM
I'm suprised about Arizona, especially given how hot its summers are.


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: Padfoot on December 02, 2007, 03:45:22 AM
Kind of cool, kind of sickening:
Trend Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhx7BFqxODY)

lol on the Weird Al background music


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: Willy Woz on December 09, 2007, 05:39:09 PM
Isn't it ironic that the fattest states are the ones with the hottest women? -well, except Utah


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: Aizen on December 09, 2007, 07:01:44 PM
Isn't it ironic that the fattest states are the ones with the hottest women? -well, except Utah


Fat women with no teeth are not hot.


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: Willy Woz on December 09, 2007, 09:19:52 PM
Isn't it ironic that the fattest states are the ones with the hottest women? -well, except Utah


Fat women with no teeth are not hot.

My point is the same states which have a lot of fat people also tend to have hotter non-fat women. Slim Mississippi girls are far preferable to anorexic Massachussetts prostitutes.


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on December 10, 2007, 12:05:45 AM
dont forget about the south carolina girls!


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: Aizen on December 10, 2007, 01:07:34 AM
Isn't it ironic that the fattest states are the ones with the hottest women? -well, except Utah


Fat women with no teeth are not hot.

My point is the same states which have a lot of fat people also tend to have hotter non-fat women. Slim Mississippi girls are far preferable to anorexic Massachussetts prostitutes.

The only reason that the southern fatty states have "hotter" non-fat women is because there are so many porkers down there that the few who aren't fat end up looking really good by default even if they wouldn't be that great in a non-porker state.


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: opebo on December 10, 2007, 02:01:41 AM
Isn't it ironic that the fattest states are the ones with the hottest women? -well, except Utah


Fat women with no teeth are not hot.

My point is the same states which have a lot of fat people also tend to have hotter non-fat women. Slim Mississippi girls are far preferable to anorexic Massachussetts prostitutes.

Prostitutes?  How do prostitutes enter into this?  Don't get my hopes up.


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on December 10, 2007, 02:05:35 AM
Isn't it ironic that the fattest states are the ones with the hottest women? -well, except Utah


Fat women with no teeth are not hot.

My point is the same states which have a lot of fat people also tend to have hotter non-fat women. Slim Mississippi girls are far preferable to anorexic Massachussetts prostitutes.

Prostitutes?  How do prostitutes enter into this?  Don't get my hopes up.

I don't know about Massachusetts but I hear Rhode Island is full of prostitutes. In fact, it's even quasi-legal there.


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: Willy Woz on December 10, 2007, 09:51:14 AM
Isn't it ironic that the fattest states are the ones with the hottest women? -well, except Utah


Fat women with no teeth are not hot.

My point is the same states which have a lot of fat people also tend to have hotter non-fat women. Slim Mississippi girls are far preferable to anorexic Massachussetts prostitutes.

The only reason that the southern fatty states have "hotter" non-fat women is because there are so many porkers down there that the few who aren't fat end up looking really good by default even if they wouldn't be that great in a non-porker state.

And that's why Texas and Mississippi and South Carolina win so many beauty pageants?


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: Everett on December 10, 2007, 10:02:44 AM
Isn't it ironic that the fattest states are the ones with the hottest women? -well, except Utah


Fat women with no teeth are not hot.

My point is the same states which have a lot of fat people also tend to have hotter non-fat women. Slim Mississippi girls are far preferable to anorexic Massachussetts prostitutes.

The only reason that the southern fatty states have "hotter" non-fat women is because there are so many porkers down there that the few who aren't fat end up looking really good by default even if they wouldn't be that great in a non-porker state.

And that's why Texas and Mississippi and South Carolina win so many beauty pageants?
Well, obviously Miss South Carolina (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww) is such a shining example of the "hot" girls in South Carolina. Except that she isn't hot at all, and her amazing inability to form coherent sentences further detracts from her supposed hotness. There are plenty of women from elsewhere in the country (i.e., places where god-awful accents are not the norm) who are far more attractive and intelligent than Southern bimbos.


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: Willy Woz on December 10, 2007, 04:27:18 PM
Northern girls are MUCH more attractive than southern girls.  Not to mention Northern girls' style isn't stuck in the '80s.

I think anyone who listens to Colbert would realize that Southern girls are way better.


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on December 11, 2007, 10:19:23 PM
I don't know about the NC as a whole but in Greensboro there are alot of hot girls and guys.


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: Willy Woz on December 12, 2007, 06:04:44 PM
I don't know about the NC as a whole but in Greensboro there are alot of hot girls and guys.

Not as many as in Stokes County!


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on December 28, 2007, 12:32:52 AM
Northern girls are MUCH more attractive than southern girls.  Not to mention Northern girls' style isn't stuck in the '80s.

I think anyone who listens to Colbert would realize that Southern girls are way better.

Don't insult the southern girls by mentioning them in the same sentence as that thug Stephen Colbert.


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: Willy Woz on December 28, 2007, 01:52:14 PM
Northern girls are MUCH more attractive than southern girls.  Not to mention Northern girls' style isn't stuck in the '80s.

I think anyone who listens to Colbert would realize that Southern girls are way better.

Don't insult the southern girls by mentioning them in the same sentence as that thug Stephen Colbert.

Colbert is a Southern girl


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: jokerman on December 28, 2007, 04:53:36 PM
Northern girls are MUCH more attractive than southern girls.  Not to mention Northern girls' style isn't stuck in the '80s.
What are you talking about?


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: Willy Woz on December 28, 2007, 09:44:21 PM
Northern girls are MUCH more attractive than southern girls.  Not to mention Northern girls' style isn't stuck in the '80s.
What are you talking about?

He's just being the usual anti-Southern snob...


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: Ban my account ffs! on December 29, 2007, 01:05:12 AM
Skinny southern girls:

()

Upper midwest girls:

()

The southern girls would be named:

Claire, Belle, Adair, etc..

The northern girls:

Ut, Grunhild, Ingrid

Okay, I exaggerated a bit.. but the northern girls definitely look like they're made of a heartier stock.


Title: Re: 10 fattest states
Post by: Friz on December 29, 2007, 01:35:54 AM
How is Wisconsin not listed?  I thought they lived in clusters there.