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General Politics => Political Debate => Topic started by: Meeker on January 22, 2008, 03:35:05 AM



Title: 17-year-old primary election voting
Post by: Meeker on January 22, 2008, 03:35:05 AM
I've managed to convince my State Representative to introduce this amendment to our State Constitution and the House State Government Committee Chair is on board too. We've got a hearing coming up in a week or so and I wanted to know all of your opinions on it.

Obviously I am in favor.


Title: Re: 17-year-old primary election voting
Post by: J. J. on January 22, 2008, 05:44:20 AM
Yes.  In PA, you can register to vote if your birthday will be on the day after the date the primary or election is held.  If your birthday was in October, for example, you couldn't vote in the PA primary (April).


Title: Re: 17-year-old primary election voting
Post by: 7,052,770 on January 22, 2008, 08:23:55 AM
Yes.  You should be able to vote in any election that you would turn 18 during the elected person's term.


Title: Re: 17-year-old primary election voting
Post by: Gustaf on January 22, 2008, 08:58:06 AM
No, I see no reason for it. The underlying principle, if I understand it correctly, makes little sense to me.


Title: Re: 17-year-old primary election voting
Post by: perdedor on January 22, 2008, 10:36:25 AM
I would personally be in favor of lowering the voting age to 16. If you can drive and pay taxes at that age, why shouldn't you have a meaningful say in your governmnet?


Title: Re: 17-year-old primary election voting
Post by: Person Man on January 22, 2008, 10:55:15 AM
I would personally be in favor of lowering the voting age to 16. If you can drive and pay taxes at that age, why shouldn't you have a meaningful say in your governmnet?
Those who can't vote shouldn't have to pay taxes.


Title: Re: 17-year-old primary election voting
Post by: Meeker on January 22, 2008, 12:15:59 PM
A bill to lower the voting age to 16 was also introduced, but it's obviously much less likely to pass than this one.

Washington State is an especially good case for it - we have no state income tax so most of our income comes from the state sales tax which everyone pays for years before they turn 18.


Title: Re: 17-year-old primary election voting
Post by: Person Man on January 22, 2008, 12:34:15 PM
A bill to lower the voting age to 16 was also introduced, but it's obviously much less likely to pass than this one.

Washington State is an especially good case for it - we have no state income tax so most of our income comes from the state sales tax which everyone pays for years before they turn 18.

there's still federal taxes...but I guess familial representation theory works at state-wide elections, where there are no taxes.


Title: Re: 17-year-old primary election voting
Post by: Meeker on January 22, 2008, 12:43:36 PM
A bill to lower the voting age to 16 was also introduced, but it's obviously much less likely to pass than this one.

Washington State is an especially good case for it - we have no state income tax so most of our income comes from the state sales tax which everyone pays for years before they turn 18.

there's still federal taxes...but I guess familial representation theory works at state-wide elections, where there are no taxes.

Yea, the federal taxes are even more of a reason since the majority of 16 and 17-year-olds have had some sort of job they've paid taxes for.


Title: Re: 17-year-old primary election voting
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on January 22, 2008, 07:28:38 PM
Certainly. My 18th birthday is less than a week before the 2012 elections. If I can vote then, why not in the primary?


Title: Re: 17-year-old primary election voting
Post by: ilikeverin on January 22, 2008, 08:43:11 PM
I can vote in the MN caucuses even though I turn 18 this August, so I don't see why not.


Title: Re: 17-year-old primary election voting
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on January 22, 2008, 09:16:12 PM
Yes.  You should be able to vote in any election that you would turn 18 during the elected person's term.

Uh, that'd allow 12 year olds to vote in Senate elections. Probably not the best move.

I support this and actually lowering the age to 17 (but not 16) altogether. If it was lowered to 17 though, I'd support the same rule for 16 year olds in the primary.


Title: Re: 17-year-old primary election voting
Post by: CultureKing on January 22, 2008, 10:33:58 PM
I personally see no reason for the law, you can just wait until you are 18, I know its a drag and real annoying but oh well.


Title: Re: 17-year-old primary election voting
Post by: jokerman on January 22, 2008, 11:48:50 PM
I am in this singular situation (in fact I turn 18 on the day of the general election).