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Title: Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill [Failed] Post by: Verily on February 18, 2008, 05:30:32 PM Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill
1. In all areas of federal jurisdiction, the use of electroshock weapons (including, but not limited to, tasers) by law enforcement is hereby prohibited. (Sponsor: Ebowed) Title: Re: Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill [Debate Open] Post by: Хahar 🤔 on February 18, 2008, 05:31:31 PM Prohibited? No. Heavily restricted? Yes.
Title: Re: Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill [Debate Open] Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on February 18, 2008, 05:32:31 PM Prohibited? No. Heavily restricted? Yes. Title: Re: Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill [Debate Open] Post by: Sensei on February 18, 2008, 05:36:58 PM I'm against this bill. Tasers ought to be used sparingly, but they should not be eliminated altogether.
Title: Re: Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill [Debate Open] Post by: Sam Spade on February 18, 2008, 06:38:25 PM I oppose this legislation.
Title: Re: Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill [Debate Open] Post by: Jake on February 18, 2008, 06:43:37 PM I oppose this legislation. I shudder to think how many more police killings there would be without tasers. Title: Re: Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill [Debate Open] Post by: Sensei on February 18, 2008, 08:54:34 PM I oppose this legislation. I shudder to think how many more police killings there would be without tasers. Title: Re: Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill [Debate Open] Post by: Colin on February 18, 2008, 10:00:12 PM I have to agree completely with both Jake and Sam in my opposition to this bill. While tasers and other such weaponry can be very dangerous when used improperly they are, by far, much less dangerous than the alternative, deadly force.
Title: Re: Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill [Debate Open] Post by: Jake on February 18, 2008, 10:38:53 PM I oppose this legislation. I shudder to think how many more police killings there would be without tasers. Just to make myself clear, I'm talking about police killing suspects. Title: Re: Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill [Debate Open] Post by: Small Business Owner of Any Repute on February 19, 2008, 01:57:37 AM Count myself among those opposed. I recognize the dangers of taser use, but I also recognize that they're much safer for all involved than the alternatives.
As long as police use tasers responsibly, which I believe to be the case in 99.9% of instances, I think it's an appropriate tool in their arsenal. Title: Re: Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill [Debate Open] Post by: Bacon King on February 20, 2008, 05:29:38 PM I'd like to echo the previous sentiments against this bill. Yes, sometimes the use of tasers is taken too far, but I'm pretty sure police would resort to handguns too often if they did not have the taser as an alternative.
Title: Re: Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill [Debate Open] Post by: Speed of Sound on February 22, 2008, 12:24:32 PM I was going to make an argument about why this is a bad idea, but I see this has already been done. Therefore, I will simply say that I support the arguments of the other senators, and respectfully ask the Senator to withdraw the bill, so as to allow a new piece of legislation to reach the floor.
Title: Re: Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill [Debate Open] Post by: Small Business Owner of Any Repute on February 22, 2008, 05:19:28 PM Looks like we have no fewer than 7 opposed.
Title: Re: Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill [Debate Open] Post by: Sensei on February 22, 2008, 05:44:54 PM I would like to propose cloture
Title: Re: Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill [Debate Open] Post by: Ebowed on February 22, 2008, 05:50:33 PM The Pacific Region has not experienced an increase in police brutality since instating its ban on taser use.
In many countries it is unheard of for normal police to be armed with handguns and tasers in the first place. But I guess the culture of violence always wins out even in the most "liberal" of Senates. Title: Re: Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill [Debate Open] Post by: Verily on February 22, 2008, 07:20:07 PM The Pacific Region has not experienced an increase in police brutality since instating its ban on taser use. That is a dishonest assertion at best with no GM. Quote In many countries it is unheard of for normal police to be armed with handguns and tasers in the first place. But I guess the culture of violence always wins out even in the most "liberal" of Senates. A somewhat different debate than the one this bill inspires. Title: Re: Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill [Debate Open] Post by: Verily on February 22, 2008, 07:20:34 PM I would like to propose cloture We are now voting on a motion for cloture. Please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain. Title: Re: Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill [Cloture Vote] Post by: Sensei on February 22, 2008, 07:40:58 PM aye
Title: Re: Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill [Cloture Vote] Post by: Ebowed on February 22, 2008, 07:41:52 PM Nay
Title: Re: Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill [Cloture Vote] Post by: Jake on February 22, 2008, 10:27:02 PM Aye
Title: Re: Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill [Cloture Vote] Post by: Speed of Sound on February 22, 2008, 10:36:46 PM aye
Title: Re: Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill [Cloture Vote] Post by: Verily on February 22, 2008, 10:41:49 PM Forgot to vote... Aye.
Tally on Cloture Motion Aye: 4 (Sensei; Jake; Speed of Sound; Verily) Nay: 1 (Ebowed) Yet to vote: 5 (Afleitch; Bacon King; Friz; Moderate; Sam Spade) Title: Re: Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill [Cloture Vote] Post by: Small Business Owner of Any Repute on February 23, 2008, 02:40:36 AM Aye.
Title: Re: Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill [Cloture Vote] Post by: afleitch on February 23, 2008, 05:43:54 AM Aye. I have to oppose this bill.
Title: Re: Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill [Cloture Vote] Post by: Verily on February 23, 2008, 09:55:22 PM Revised Tally on Cloture Motion
Aye: 6 (Sensei; Jake; Speed of Sound; Verily; Moderate; Afleitch) Nay: 1 (Ebowed) Yet to vote: 3 (Bacon King; Friz; Sam Spade) Title: Re: Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill [Cloture Vote] Post by: Sam Spade on February 24, 2008, 12:11:18 AM Aye
Title: Re: Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill [Cloture Vote] Post by: Verily on February 24, 2008, 12:43:36 AM Result on Cloture Motion
Aye: 7 (Sensei; Jake; Speed of Sound; Verily; Moderate; Afleitch; Sam Spade) Nay: 1 (Ebowed) Yet to vote: 2 (Bacon King; Friz) With seven in favor, the motion for cloture passes. We are now voting on the final passage of the following legislation. Please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain. Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill 1. In all areas of federal jurisdiction, the use of electroshock weapons (including, but not limited to, tasers) by law enforcement is hereby prohibited. (Sponsor: Ebowed) Nay Title: Re: Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill [At Final Vote] Post by: Ebowed on February 24, 2008, 12:59:29 AM Aye
Title: Re: Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill [At Final Vote] Post by: Speed of Sound on February 24, 2008, 01:01:26 AM Nay
Title: Re: Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill [At Final Vote] Post by: Sensei on February 24, 2008, 01:11:59 AM nay
Title: Re: Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill [At Final Vote] Post by: Jake on February 24, 2008, 02:09:15 AM Nay
Title: Re: Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill [At Final Vote] Post by: Sam Spade on February 24, 2008, 01:55:59 PM No way, Jose.
Title: Re: Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill [At Final Vote] Post by: afleitch on February 25, 2008, 02:09:11 PM Nay
Title: Re: Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill [At Final Vote] Post by: Verily on February 25, 2008, 04:36:14 PM This legislation has enough votes to fail. Senators have twenty-four hours to change their votes.
Title: Re: Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill [At Final Vote] Post by: Bacon King on February 25, 2008, 08:53:34 PM nay ftr.
Title: Re: Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill [At Final Vote] Post by: Small Business Owner of Any Repute on February 26, 2008, 05:07:43 PM Nay.
Title: Re: Electroshock Weapons Restrictions Bill [At Final Vote] Post by: Verily on February 26, 2008, 11:02:55 PM Result on Final Passage
Aye: 1 (Ebowed) Nay: 8 (Verily; Speed of Sound; Sensei; Jake; Sam Spade; Afleitch; Bacon King; Moderate) Abstain [Didn't vote]: 1 (Friz) With eight opposed, this legislation fails. |