Talk Elections

ROUND 3 FINAL RESULTS:
(X) Advanced
(E) Eliminated

Republicans       GP      W      L      EVF       EVA  
(X) Mr. Hobbes    8        7      1      2547     1757
(X) MHS2002       8        6      2      2292     2012
(E) Bullmoose88  8        5      3      2296     2008
(E) WMS              8        4      4      2150     2154

Democrats       GP      W      L        EVF       EVA
(X) Gabu            8       4       4       2098    2206
(X) Hughento     8       3       5       2128    2176
(E) Nation          8       2       6       2057    2247  
(E) ThePrezMex 8       1       7       1648    2656

Game by Game Results:

MHS2002 383/276 vs. ThePrezMex 155/262
Mr. Hobbes 329/276 vs. Nation 209/262
Bullmoose88 270/268 vs. Hughento 268/270
WMS 271/266 vs. Gabu 267/272
Mr. Hobbes 298/261 vs. Hughento 240/277
Bullmoose88 281/265 vs. Gabu 257/273
WMS 279/255 vs. ThePrezMex 259/283
MHS2002 278/277 vs. Nation 260/261
Bullmoose88 271/404 vs. ThePrezMex 267/134
WMS 286/264 vs. Nation 252/274
MHS2002 278/272 vs. Hughento 260/266
Mr. Hobbes 320/275 vs. Gabu 218/263
WMS 255/274 vs. Hughento 283/264
MHS2002 265/263 vs. Gabu 273/275
Mr. Hobbes 432/356 vs. ThePrezMex 106/182
Bullmoose88 265/272 vs. Nation 273/266

Cool system.  Very much like a sporting league....Major Presidental Leagues (MPL) perhaps? ;)

Seriously, awesome set-up, looking forward to the simmed elections.

Very cool :)

MHS2002 vs. ThePrezMex:

(R): MHS2002: Pettit/Cuthbert: 383, 68,256,223, 54%
(D): ThePrezMex: Martinez/Bayh: 155, 56,220,336, 45%

Closest State:
Vermont: ThePrezMex wins 50.8-49.0

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yay! round 3!

:'(  :'(


Verin, you want to be my VP? I lost your three states.

What three states?  Indiana, Minnesota, and ???

And Wisconsin.. your cabin.

Oh!  LOL :)

Mr. Hobbes vs. Nation:

(R): Mr. Hobbes: Hobbes/Ryan: 329, 67,735,019, 54%
(D): Nation: Nation/Wrywas: 209, 56,377,476, 45%

Closest State:
Connecticut: Hobbes wins 50.4-49.4

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I keep losing California and winning Texas!

How the heck did I lose Wyoming?

Bullmoose88 vs. Hughento:

(R): Bullmoose88: Arage/McCain: 270, 61,525,105, 49%
(D): Hughento: Bartlett/Sanchez: 268, 60,947,340, 49%

Closest State:
Maryland: Hughento wins 53.6-44.8

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That must be a polarized country, if the closest state was maryland.

damn, first defeat. And you can't get much closer :(

Congrats Bullmoose :D

Thanks.

Interesting match Hugento.
PV and EV close

but almost all of the states on the map were blowouts for either side.

Which is odd...since we're both centrists.

WMS vs. Gabu:

(R): WMS: Slayn/Talent: 271, 61,635,641, 49%
(D): Gabu: Longley/Graham: 267, 62,580,231, 50%

Closest State:
Kansas: WMS wins 50.1-49.7 (3945 votes)

(I accidentally deleted the map...oops! Sorry).

Whooo!  GOP undefeated!

Well, at least I got California this time around. :P

Mr. Hobbes vs. Hughento Race:

(R): Mr. Hobbes: Hobbes/Ryan: 298, 65,500,651, 52%
(D): Hughento: Bartlett/Sanchez: 240, 59,125,441, 47%

Close States:
Arizona: Hughento wins 50.0-48.4
Washington: Hughento wins 50.7-49.1

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Oh dear, i'm nt doing so well this round :S

I sure am in a LOT of close races, and the number of times me or my opponent wins the PV but not the EV is spooky...

Bullmoose88 vs. Gabu:

(R): Bullmoose88: Arage/McCain: 281, 63,652,559, 51%
(D): Gabu: 257, 60,800,482, 48%

Closest State:
Pennsylvania: Bullmoose wins 50.4-49.4

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I retract my earlier statement that this game may not be biased against Democrats. :P

WMS vs. ThePrezMex:

(R): WMS: Slayn/Talent: 279, 65,078,796, 52%
(D): ThePrezMex: Martinez/Bayh: 259, 59,116,684, 47%

Closest States:
Texas: ThePrezMex wins 50.6-49.2

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MHS2002 vs. Nation:

(R): MHS2002: Pettit/Cuthbert: 278, 61,042,026, 48%
(D): Nation: Nation/Wrywas: 260, 63,400,746, 50%

Closest State:
Virginia: MHS wins 50.1-49.7 (13284 votes)

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Missing a map?

Bullmoose88 vs. ThePrezMex:

(R): Bullmoose88: Arage/McCain: 271, 64,197,317, 51%
(D): ThePrezMex: Martinez/Bayh: 267, 60,187,713, 48%

Closest State:
Washington: ThePrezMex wins 51.5-48.4

Sorry, but for some reason I can't go on the 2004 prediction site, so I'm not able to show the percentages. Here's the map though...

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WMS vs. Nation:

(R): WMS: Slayn/Talent: 286, 67,425,636, 54%
(D): Nation: Nation/Wrywas: 252, 56,693, 928, 45%

Closest State:
New Mexico: WMS wins 51.0-48.9

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MHS2002 vs. Hughento:

(R): MHS2002: Pettit/Cuthbert: 278, 64,544,820, 51%
(D): Hughento: Bartlett/Sanchez: 260, 59,768,337, 48%

Closest State:
Rhode Island: Hughento wins 50.0-47.9

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Bugger :)

Congrats mate.

Wait...woah!

You can play President Forever online? How??

No, we're not playing online; we give information about our characters to MHS2002 and then he sticks them into the game and posts the result.

I heard that the newest version will have online play, though.

Mr. Hobbes vs. Gabu:

(R): Mr. Hobbes: Hobbes/Ryan: 320, 62,068,958, 49%
(D): Gabu: Longley/Graham: 218, 62, 134, 909, 49%

Closest State:
Iowa: Hobbes wins 50.7-49.0

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WMS vs. Hughento:

(D): Hughento: Bartlett/Sanchez: 283, 60,693,825, 48%
(R): WMS: Slayn/Talent: 255, 63,354,063, 50%

Closest State:
North Carolina: Hughento wins 50.9-48.9

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MHS2002 vs. Gabu:

(D): Gabu: Longley/Graham: 273, 61,531,174, 49%
(R): MHS2002: Pettit/Cuthbert: 265, 62,457,340, 50%

Closest State:
Rhode Island: Gabu wins 51.8-48.0

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wOOT! go Democrats!

(the bias is incumbency, btw)

YES!!  The Democrats finally win something!

*dances*

we still both lost the PV though :S

The Hobbes-Gabu race was one fricking polarized country...

I lost the popular vote by about fifty thousand and all of the Gabu states were Solid Democratic.

I'd have a very hard time governing. :-P

Mr. Hobbes vs. ThePrezMex:

(R): Mr. Hobbes: Hobbes/Ryan: 432, 71,832,689, 57%
(D): ThePrezMex: Martinez/Bayh: 106, 52,547,956, 42%

Close States:
Iowa: ThePrezMex wins 50.0-49.8
Oregon: Hobbes wins 50.5-49.3

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Bullmoose88 vs. Nation:

(D): Nation: Nation/Wrywas: 273, 62,123,837, 49%
(R): Bullmoose88: Arage/McCain: 265, 62,111,576, 49%

Close States:
Iowa: Nation wins 51.0-48.9
New Mexico: Bullmoose wins 51.0-48.8

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MHS2002 vs. ThePrezMex:

(R): MHS2002: Pettit/Cuthbert: 276, 64,483,352, 51%
(D): ThePrezMex: Martinez/Bayh: 262, 59,708,317, 47%

Closest State:
Texas: ThePrezMex wins 51.6-48.2

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This is turning pretty dramatic! I've lost every election!
It seems that being a democrat with some libertarian traits makes me unelectable (although I've win Texas most of the time! :D )

WAH! I win the PV by 2% but lose the EV by 28 votes? Australian voter fraud, that's what this is... :P

Mr. Hobbes vs. Nation:

(R): Mr. Hobbes: Hobbes/Ryan: 276, 62,163,900, 49%
(D): Nation: Nation/Wrywas: 262, 62,614,938, 50%

Closest State:
Colorado: Hobbes wins 51.3-48.6

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Bullmoose88 vs. Hughento:

(D): Hughento: Bartlett/Sanchez: 270, 61,321,213, 49%
(R): Bullmoose88: Arage/McCain: 268, 62,860,513, 50%

Closest States:
Rhode Island: Hughento: 51.8-48.1

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WMS vs. Gabu:

(D): Gabu: Longley/Graham: 272, 63,924,272, 51%
(R): WMS: Slayn/Talent: 266, 60,321,968, 48%

Close States:
Vermont: Gabu wins 50.1-49.7 (1165 votes)
Connecticut: WMS wins 50.3-49.6

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Dang...lost the popular again, but won the electoral...and lost my state and my Vice-President's state.

Weird.

Sorry, but there won't be any updates for about a week or so. Things are getting pretty busy at school; I'll do my best to start it up again ASAP.

I don't quite understand. Does this have to do with 80-soft's President Forever game?

Mr. Hobbes vs. Hughento:

(D): Hughento: Bartlett/Sanchez: 277, 60,915,002, 48%
(R): Mr. Hobbes: Hobbes/Ryan: 261, 63,198,570, 50%

Closest States:
Vermont: Hughento wins 51.1-48.6

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Bullmoose88 vs. Gabu:

(D): Gabu: Longley/Graham: 273, 61,641,993, 49%
(R): Bullmoose88: Arage/McCain: 265, 62,538,755, 50%

Closest State:
Tennessee: Bullmoose wins 52.6-47.2

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WMS vs. ThePrezMex:

(D): ThePrezMex: Martinez/Bayh: 283, 61,332,798, 49%
(R): WMS: Slayn/Talent: 255, 63,030,895, 50%

Closest State:
Maryland: ThePrezMex wins 51.6-48.3

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the democrats seem to be coming back a bit :)

Bugger...got the tables turned on me.  Won the popular, lost electoral.

How is it fair? Isn't it unbalanced because of him playing? Or do they have coputer v computer now?

I think he makes it computer vs. computer.

Sorry but things have been very busy as of late. I haven't forgotten, I just don't have the time right now. I'll try and start this again when I can.

Take your time.  We're patient. :)

Is it too late for me to enter?

MHS2002 vs. Nation:

(R): MHS2002: Pettit/Cuthbert: 277, 64,245,263, 51%
(D): Nation: Nation/Wrywas: 261, 59,996,653, 48%

Closest Race:
Missouri: Nation wins 50.9-49.0

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dustinasby,

It's too late to enter for this "competition," but if you put your info on here in the format below, I can include you in a future competition, if I decide to do this again. The only problem is, you'd have to put yourself down as a Republican or a Democrat. If I have some time, I can run some "exhibition" matches versus the eventual winners if you'd like.

Title:
Party: Republican/Democrat
First Name:
Last Name:  
Home State:
Age: (not necessary though)
Attributes (Using a maximum of 25 points):    
Leadership 1-5
Charisma 1-5
Integrity 1-5
Stamina 1-5
Experience 1-5
Debating 1-5
Issue Knowledge 1-5

Vice-President:
VP State:
VP Bonus (from one of the categories above except Debating or Stamina):

Platform: Choose your stances on the issues, ranging from Left/Center-Left/Centrist/Center-Right/Right.
Left is on top, Right is on the bottom.

//Abortion
Unrestricted access to abortions.
Legal abortions in the first two trimesters for the mother's health.
Legal abortions in the first trimester for the mother's health.
No legal abortions, except to save the mother's life or rape.
No legal abortions.
@

//Affirmative Action
Make all federal agencies follow strict quotas.
Diversity is a compelling reason for affirmative action.
The benefits of diversity can justify affirmative action.
Affirmative action programs only in certain cases.
Abolish all federal affirmative action programs.
@

//Balanced Budget
A deficit is fine - focus on social programs.
Military spending is more important than the deficit.
Balance lowering the deficit with other priorities.
A Balanced Budget amendment to eliminate the deficit.
Eliminate all national debt as quickly as possible.
@

//Business Tax
Significantly increase business taxation.
Increase business taxation.
Businesses are taxed the right amount.
Reduce business taxation.
Significantly reduce business taxation.
@

//Campaign Finance Reform
Elections are rigged for the two parties - we need major reform!
We need to significantly reduce corporate donations.
We need to put more power into smaller donors' hands.
The McCain/Feingold bill is sufficient.
No campaign finance reform is needed.
@

//Ecology
The environment must be our first national priority.
Good environmental policies are good economic policies.
Balance environmental policies with sound economic policies.
Economic policies must come before environmental policies.
The environment is fine, we don't need to worry about it.
@

//Education
No school vouchers, large increase to federal funding.
No school vouchers, increase federal funding.
Lower-income school vouchers, increase federal funding.
School vouchers for lower-income students.
School vouchers for anyone.
@

//Free Trade
We need to erect large tariff barriers to protect all our industries.
Some industries need to be protected.
Open markets should be approached with caution.
Most markets should be open.
All markets should be open!
@

//Gun Control
Ban all guns!
Ban certain guns, and require registration/background checks.
Guns control is a state issue.
We should be very wary of gun control.
Gun ownership is constitutionally protected - no gun control!
@

//Same-Sex Marriage
Same-sex marriage is a constitutional right.
Same-sex marriage, even if not in name.
Retain marriage as it is, but explore civil unions.
Marriage is between a man and a woman.
Homosexuals need to be treated for their condition.
@

//Immigration
Immigration is great, illegal immigrants granted amnesty.
Legal immigration is great.
Legal immigration is fine, but immigration laws must be obeyed.
Reduce legal immigration, crack down on illegal immigration.
Immigration is destroying the country, stop all immigration now!
@

//Military Funding
Drastically cut military funding, establish a Department of Peace.
We should decrease military funding.
Keep military budget the same, look to be more efficient.
Increase the military budget, but find ways to be more efficient.
We need to significantly increase military funding to meet new threats.
@

//Military Intervention
Military intervention is another way of saying 'empire building'.
For humanitarian causes or if we are attacked.
Only if we are attacked.
Only if our national interests are threatened.
We can and should use our military might to further our own interests.
@

//Personal Tax
Increase income tax for everyone.
Increase income tax for the rich.
Reduce income tax for lower- and middle-class tax brackets.
Reduce income tax across the board.
Reduce income tax for the rich.
@


//Public Health Care
We need a completely public health care system.
Universal health care, whether public or private.
Public health care benefits for the poor and elderly, the rest private.
Only a few public health care benefits.
The health care system should be completely private.
@

//Renewable Energy
Renewable energy all the way!
We should focus on renewable energy sources.
Renewable and non-renewable energy must be equally researched.
Coal and oil are our main concerns right now.
We don't need to worry about renewable energy sources.
@

//Social Security
No to any private investment, dramatically increase funding.
No to private investment, increase funding.
Keep social security as it is.
Let workers privately invest some of their social security payments.
Let workers privately invest all social security payments.
@

//Terrorism
We should surrender to the terrorists.
We need to fight the cause of terrorism, economic and social injustice.
Focus on better foreign policy, but use military force if we must.
We should not hesitate to use military force against terrorism.
Terrorism can only be stopped one way: military force.
@

Bullmoose88 vs. ThePrezMex:

(R): Bullmoose88: Arage/McCain: 404, 66,204,101, 53%
(D): ThePrezMex: Martinez/Bayh: 134, 58,356,355, 46%

Close States:
Maryland: ThePrezMex wins 50.2-49.7
New York: Bullmoose wins 50.4-49.4
Washington: Bullmoose wins 50.5-49.3

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it seems the republicans are back on track...

is it just me or does anyone else think MO goes to the Democrats too easily, and WA goes to the GOP too easily?

WMS vs. Nation:

(D): Nation: Nation/Wrywas: 274, 63,367,792, 50%
(R): WMS: Slayn/Talent: 264: 59,811,884, 48%

Closest State:
California: Nation wins 51.0-48.3

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MHS2002 vs. Hughento:

(R): MHS2002: Pettit/Cuthbert: 272, 62,260,622, 50%
(D): Hughento: Bartlett/Sanchez: 266, 61,937,808, 49%

Closest State:
Oklahoma: MHS wins 50.7-49.1

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Mr. Hobbes vs. Gabu:

(R): Mr. Hobbes: Hobbes/Ryan: 275, 62,418,888, 50%
(D): Gabu: Longley/Graham: 263, 62,075,165, 49%

Closest State:
Arizona: Hobbes wins 52.0-47.9

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oh well :)

good to see it back MHS :)

There seem to be an awful lot of races that look like "27#/26#".

I wanna be in the next one!

Title: Mrs.
Party: Democrat
First Name: Stella
Last Name:  Pershelvski
Home State: OH
Age: 47
Attributes (Using a maximum of 25 points):   
Leadership 3
Charisma 4
Integrity 5
Stamina 4
Experience 3
Debating 3
Issue Knowledge 3

Vice-President: Harold Ford
VP State: TN
VP Bonus: Charisma

Platform: Choose your stances on the issues, ranging from Left/Center-Left/Centrist/Center-Right/Right.
Left is on top, Right is on the bottom.

//Abortion
Legal abortions in the first two trimesters for the mother's health.

//Affirmative Action
Diversity is a compelling reason for affirmative action.

//Balanced Budget
Balance lowering the deficit with other priorities.

//Business Tax
Businesses are taxed the right amount.

//Campaign Finance Reform
We need to significantly reduce corporate donations.

//Ecology
Good environmental policies are good economic policies.

//Education
Lower-income school vouchers, increase federal funding.

//Free Trade
Open markets should be approached with caution.

//Gun Control
Ban certain guns, and require registration/background checks.

//Same-Sex Marriage
Same-sex marriage is a constitutional right.

//Immigration
Legal immigration is fine, but immigration laws must be obeyed.

//Military Funding
We should decrease military funding.

//Military Intervention
For humanitarian causes or if we are attacked.

//Personal Tax
Increase income tax for the rich.

//Public Health Care
Universal health care, whether public or private.

//Renewable Energy
Renewable and non-renewable energy must be equally researched.

//Social Security
Keep social security as it is.

//Terrorism
We need to fight the cause of terrorism, economic and social injustice.

 

WMS vs. Hughento:

(R): WMS: Slayn/Talent: 274, 62,619,141, 50%
(D): Hughento: Bartlett/Sanchez: 264, 61,647,725, 49%

Closest State:
West Virginia: WMS wins 51.3-48.4

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Good ol' dependable Minnesota hands me the margin again.  Bwhahahahaha!

Erm.

Anyways.  Yeah.  Good show MHS.

MHS2002 vs. Gabu:

(D): Gabu: Longley/Graham: 275, 62,718,982, 50%
(R): MHS2002: Pettit/Cuthbert: 263, 61,575,330, 49%

Closest State:
New Mexico: Gabu wins 52.1-47.7

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Yay!  A good finisher.

Mr. Hobbes vs. ThePrezMex:

(R): Mr. Hobbes: Hobbes/Ryan: 356, 65,664,157, 52%
(D): ThePrezMex: Martinez/Bayh: 182, 58,895,908, 47%

Closest State:
Nevada: Hobbes wins 50.8-48.9

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Bullmoose88 vs. Nation:

(R): Bullmoose88: Arage/McCain: 272, 63,118,425, 50%
(D): Nation: Nation/Wrywas: 266, 61,079,393, 49%

Closest State:
New Mexico: Bullmoose wins 51.3-48.5

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yay i'm in the finnal!

Come on Gabu, let's bring it home!