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Title: What's the latest on Virginia and New Jersey
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 19, 2008, 10:29:25 PM
Virginia and New Jersey both elect their governors in just a little over 18 months in November 2009.  Is their any news coming from either state on that front?  Are their any candidates being thrown around right now?


Title: Re: What's the latest on Virginia and New Jersey
Post by: Keystone Phil on April 19, 2008, 10:36:22 PM
Here's all you need to know about NJ - The Dems win.


Title: Re: What's the latest on Virginia and New Jersey
Post by: Joe Biden 2020 on April 19, 2008, 10:39:09 PM
Here's all you need to know about NJ - The Dems win.

I know that -- but who will it be?


Title: Re: What's the latest on Virginia and New Jersey
Post by: Keystone Phil on April 19, 2008, 10:43:34 PM
Here's all you need to know about NJ - The Dems win.

I know that -- but who will it be?

There are a number of people on both sides. They don't even know if Corzine will seek re-election. Give it a few more months.


Title: Re: What's the latest on Virginia and New Jersey
Post by: Nutmeg on April 19, 2008, 11:02:30 PM
Well, Corzine's certainly not acting like someone who's seeking to retire.  So D hold there.

As for VA, the race is basically set: one of State Sen. Creigh Deeds (D) and State Del. Brian Moran (D) will face state Atty Gen Bob McDonnell (R).  McDonnell just barely beat Deeds for his current job in 2005, so the 2009 gubernatorial race could be a rematch.  It should be competitive.


Title: Re: What's the latest on Virginia and New Jersey
Post by: Keystone Phil on April 19, 2008, 11:04:57 PM
Well, Corzine's certainly not acting like someone who's seeking to retire.

Actually...if anything...he is...


Title: Re: What's the latest on Virginia and New Jersey
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on April 20, 2008, 12:55:17 AM
Well, Corzine's certainly not acting like someone who's seeking to retire.

Actually...if anything...he is...

Oh God I hope so. Fake Democrat.


Title: Re: What's the latest on Virginia and New Jersey
Post by: Nutmeg on April 20, 2008, 11:51:00 AM
Well, Corzine's certainly not acting like someone who's seeking to retire.
Actually...if anything...he is...

Why...do you...say that?


Title: Re: What's the latest on Virginia and New Jersey
Post by: DownWithTheLeft on April 20, 2008, 01:10:05 PM
Eternal optimism aside, if Chris Christie runs (which it looks like he might) the Repubs certainly have a shot


Title: Re: What's the latest on Virginia and New Jersey
Post by: Small Business Owner of Any Repute on April 20, 2008, 04:09:19 PM
The general line on New Jersey is that Corzine is likely to run again.  He's got enough money and clout such that he should be able to avoid a primary fight, even if he stays as unpopular as he is now (or gets even more unpopular).

The likely Republican candidate looks to be Chris Christie, who has been making some not so subtle gestures regarding the race.  Christie actually has a decent shot at things—he's a highly accomplished and well regarded prosecutor—but there have been some recent mini-scandals that have tarnished his squeaky clean image.

Corzine is favored to win, of course, but it probably won't be a huge landslide.


Title: Re: What's the latest on Virginia and New Jersey
Post by: DownWithTheLeft on April 20, 2008, 04:38:24 PM
The general line on New Jersey is that Corzine is likely to run again.  He's got enough money and clout such that he should be able to avoid a primary fight, even if he stays as unpopular as he is now (or gets even more unpopular).

The likely Republican candidate looks to be Chris Christie, who has been making some not so subtle gestures regarding the race.  Christie actually has a decent shot at things—he's a highly accomplished and well regarded prosecutor—but there have been some recent mini-scandals that have tarnished his squeaky clean image.

Corzine is favored to win, of course, but it probably won't be a huge landslide.
Actually, Mr. Moderate, the biggest thing Christie has working against him is that he is known for fighting corruption not creating it :P


Title: Re: What's the latest on Virginia and New Jersey
Post by: Keystone Phil on April 20, 2008, 04:44:40 PM
Well, Corzine's certainly not acting like someone who's seeking to retire.
Actually...if anything...he is...

Why...do you...say that?

I was being told that his campaigning for the very unpopular toll hike was a sign that he didn't care about another term.


Title: Re: What's the latest on Virginia and New Jersey
Post by: Small Business Owner of Any Repute on April 22, 2008, 03:57:51 PM
Well, Corzine's certainly not acting like someone who's seeking to retire.
Actually...if anything...he is...

Why...do you...say that?

I was being told that his campaigning for the very unpopular toll hike was a sign that he didn't care about another term.

Jon Corzine has been campaigning for unpopular stuff since his 2000 U.S. Senate campaign.  It's just the way he does business.


Title: Re: What's the latest on Virginia and New Jersey
Post by: Nutmeg on April 22, 2008, 08:37:28 PM
Well, Corzine's certainly not acting like someone who's seeking to retire.
Actually...if anything...he is...
Why...do you...say that?
I was being told that his campaigning for the very unpopular toll hike was a sign that he didn't care about another term.
Jon Corzine has been campaigning for unpopular stuff since his 2000 U.S. Senate campaign.  It's just the way he does business.

Heh.  Yeah, that's basically what I was thinking.

More specifically, though, Corzine has just embarked on a long-term greenhouse gas initiative, which would seem to me to indicate that he's not planning on packing it in quite yet.


Title: Re: What's the latest on Virginia and New Jersey
Post by: Kevin on April 23, 2008, 06:38:00 PM
The general line on New Jersey is that Corzine is likely to run again.  He's got enough money and clout such that he should be able to avoid a primary fight, even if he stays as unpopular as he is now (or gets even more unpopular).

The likely Republican candidate looks to be Chris Christie, who has been making some not so subtle gestures regarding the race.  Christie actually has a decent shot at things—he's a highly accomplished and well regarded prosecutor—but there have been some recent mini-scandals that have tarnished his squeaky clean image.

Corzine is favored to win, of course, but it probably won't be a huge landslide.

What has harmed Christie as of recently?


Title: Re: What's the latest on Virginia and New Jersey
Post by: Conan on April 24, 2008, 05:54:13 PM
The general line on New Jersey is that Corzine is likely to run again.  He's got enough money and clout such that he should be able to avoid a primary fight, even if he stays as unpopular as he is now (or gets even more unpopular).

The likely Republican candidate looks to be Chris Christie, who has been making some not so subtle gestures regarding the race.  Christie actually has a decent shot at things—he's a highly accomplished and well regarded prosecutor—but there have been some recent mini-scandals that have tarnished his squeaky clean image.

Corzine is favored to win, of course, but it probably won't be a huge landslide.

What has harmed Christie as of recently?
NJ Dem congressmen have muddied him up. He awarded John Ashcroft multi-million dollar no bid contracts which then led to his subpeona along with the AG. This forced the justice dept to stop this practice, which further enforced a sense of wrong doing.


Title: Re: What's the latest on Virginia and New Jersey
Post by: Brittain33 on April 25, 2008, 09:54:37 AM
NJ Dem congressmen have muddied him up. He awarded John Ashcroft multi-million dollar no bid contracts which then led to his subpeona along with the AG. This forced the justice dept to stop this practice, which further enforced a sense of wrong doing.

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. I guess we won't be having leaks about upcoming indictments of Frank Lautenberg/Robert Andrews appearing in the Star-Ledger on October 20...


Title: Re: What's the latest on Virginia and New Jersey
Post by: Conan on April 25, 2008, 04:41:01 PM
NJ Dem congressmen have muddied him up. He awarded John Ashcroft multi-million dollar no bid contracts which then led to his subpeona along with the AG. This forced the justice dept to stop this practice, which further enforced a sense of wrong doing.

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. I guess we won't be having leaks about upcoming indictments of Frank Lautenberg/Robert Andrews appearing in the Star-Ledger on October 20...
Well Frank Lautenberg has never been acused of unethical behavior, so an indictment would be a far stretch for him.


Title: Re: What's the latest on Virginia and New Jersey
Post by: DownWithTheLeft on April 25, 2008, 04:46:35 PM
NJ Dem congressmen have muddied him up. He awarded John Ashcroft multi-million dollar no bid contracts which then led to his subpeona along with the AG. This forced the justice dept to stop this practice, which further enforced a sense of wrong doing.

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. I guess we won't be having leaks about upcoming indictments of Frank Lautenberg/Robert Andrews appearing in the Star-Ledger on October 20...
Well Frank Lautenberg has never been acused of unethical behavior, so an indictment would be a far stretch for him.
Menendez is corrupt, Lautenberg is simply incompetent

Plus, Christie is too busy waiting to indict the people involved in the EnCap fiasco


Title: Re: What's the latest on Virginia and New Jersey
Post by: Small Business Owner of Any Repute on April 25, 2008, 09:27:14 PM
That's true.  Lautenberg isn't corrupt, which is about the one good thing I can see it fit to say about him.