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I'm going to start posting soon about how the effects of a independent Texas effects world history.
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We'd be a third world rump state, most likely. :P

Or we could possibly become a superpower.

Here's where the timeline change happens. After a long debate between joining the United States or remaining a independent Republic. Mirabeau Lamar gives his famous "Empire Texas" speech and gives a small marginal victory to remain a Republic. New things were developing, border disputes with Texas and Mexico would spill over and lead to the Mexican-Texan War(1847-1849), with the ideals of Manifest Destiny running through the nation, Texans prepared for war with Mexico and the best military leaders of the Republic were sent to the front lines. The first flashpoint was called the Johnston Affair which a Mexican calvary unit attacked a attachment of Texan soldiers in the contested Rio Grande area, killing most of them and the few survivors retreated to Fort Brown. When General Thomas Rusk heard of this he ordered the full movement of Texan soldiers over the Rio Grande and an invasion of Mexico, the first real battle of the war, the Battle of Palo Alto which Texan forces led by Thomas Rusk fought the Mexican calvary led by Mariano Arista, the Mexican forces were sure they would crush the Texan forces with there numbers of soldiers but a decisive battle led General Rusk and the Texan forces to be triumphant in the battle, sending the Mexicans in retreat. The Texan forces would charge after the retreating Mexican forces and meet them again at the Battle of Resaca de la Palma, which Texan forces would crush the Mexican forces and send them in another retreat. After only a short time at war with Mexico, a large rebellion in California would divert many Mexican soldiers to the Californian front, letting the Texan forces to begin to flood Mexico.

The war was going smoothly with a long drawn out was with the Mexican forces having to fight with Texas and the newly declared Republic of California, Texas forces cut threw the Mexican lines and advanced through Mexico, but it was slow and their ultimate goal was to starve out a peace with Mexico. A large boost to the war effort was when a large number of American Mormons took up arms and marched to join the Californian cause to liberate the land of Deseret from Mexico. Californian rebels took the small town of Yerba Buena at the Siege of Yerba Buenaand used it as a base to continue to strike at Mexican forces and a good port for the small California navy, led by former US Commodore Robert Stockton, who led daring raids across the Baja Peninsula. Texan forces were quickly stalling and becoming a battle slogging for a small advancement on the battlefield, this a stark opposite to California, the Mexican forces had retreated further into Loyalist areas and also sent many troops to fight against the Texan forces, leading to Commodore Robert Stockton to land at Los Angeles with virtually unopposed. As the Texan forces slowly made headway, US President Winifield Scott secretly funneled weapons to the Texan forces in hopes of putting Texas as the victor in the war. The most western parts of Mexico had fallen under Californian or Texan rule and with meetings between Texan President James Henderson and interim President William Ide worked out plans to send several regiments to help Texan and Californian forces, leading to a spectacular victories at the Battle of La Mesa, Battle of Monterrey and the Battle of Buena Vista, content for the war with Texas and California was growing with the Mexican people and said to end the war with the two nations before Mexico is butchered even more than it already is but the Mexican government under Santa Anna declined and continued the war with California and Texas.

Tension had built up with the anti war supporters and pro war supporters and riots broke out in the Mexican capitol, Mexico City and all the while this was happening, Texan forces were marching to the important Mexican port city of Veracruz, which had been reinforced for an attack by Texan forces. At the Battle of Veracruza large Texan force, headed by Generals Thomas Rusk and Sidney Sherman attacked the port city in hopes of a crushing defeat of the Mexican forces there, but they soon had to besiege the city to bring the important port city under Texan control after weeks of heavy fighting for the city. After this the Mexican people became even more upset at this and the rebellions in the Baja Peninsula against the Mexican Empire, more support rallied around the Anti war movement against the Mexican-Texan War. After debating began to surrender to the Texan forces or continue to fight, what decided there minds was that Texan General Thomas Rusk said that he would march into the Mexican capitol of Mexico City and burn it to the ground in revenge after the many Texan towns that were burned by Mexican forces, after that Mexico officially surrendered to Texas and California in the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, Mexico would secede a large portion of there most western possesions to the two nations and California would take control of the Baja Peninsula, which the two nations collected a lump sum of money and with the help of President Scott's Texan Transactional Actwould give a portion of money to Texas and California to pay to the Mexican government for the seceded land. California and Texas would split the new land that was acquired in the Mexican-Texan War, they used the Colorado River as a natural border and a physically drawn border to complete the new border between the two countries. This is how they look after they split the new lands between the Texas and California.

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IIRC, Lamar supported an extension of Texas to the Pacific.

But keep up those maps. :)

Texas is going to push to the Pacific, but not California's Pacific coast, think more south.

As Texas and California was glorious with the Mexican-Texan War and all the new land they accuired from it, things are not as good for the United States, President Winified Scott is having to run for reelection in 1852 but he hasn't had support from many Whigs because of his "cottling the Texan Republic" and these Anti Scott supporters back Daniel Webster for the Whig nomination. As a power struggle seems to consume the Whig party, divisions in the Democratic party are showing with their nomination of James Buchanan and Joseph Lane, two men who have a lax view on slavery. On the 6Th ballot, President Scott is renominated and drops his VP Millard Fillmore and replaces him with North Carolinan Governor William Graham, with division in both major parties, it does seem the election is anybody's win and with a major spoiler in effect, the Free Soil party has nominated John Hale and George Julian. The election is here.

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Winifield Scott/Alexander Graham(151 EV 49% PV)
James Buchanan/Joseph Lane(140 EV 45% PV
John Hale/George Julian(0 EV 6% PV)

Ah...

Another nice map, BTW.

Thanks!

As for Texas, it was about to elect a new president as well, already having President Rusk(1850-1853) of the Expansionist party in power and the one three year term the term limit for the President. Another General from the Mexican-Texan War would run for the presidency against Vice President Samuel Maverick in the Election of 1853. For Texas, the electoral college wasn't in use and they used the popular vote to choose the president but that was changing with the creation of Fredonia and Jacinto in 1851 and the hispanic populated state of Rio Grande. As for the 1853 election, the Expansionist, Lone Star and Whig parties ran candidates here and results showed that former General Sidney Sherman had about 45%, Samuel Maverick 37% and Henry Brewster 18%. Here's a map of what Texas looks like at the time of the 1853 Election.

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California:The Opening of Japan

The United States and the Republic of California began a competitive journey to open Japan to the Western trade, the main commanders were the US Commodore Matthew Perry and Californian Commodore Robert Stockton. On July 8Th, 1853 the CRS Sonoma sailed into the Japanese port city of Edo and officially won the race to open Japan to trade. Stockton's popularity would carry him to the presidency in the 1854 Californian Republic Election, making Stockton the second elected President of California.

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Who was the first President of California? And how long are terms? 3 years, like in Texas?

Excellent TL, BTW. Keep it up.

Charles Fremont was the first Californian president and they serve a 3 year term and the only difference is that Texan Presidents usually serve only 3 years as Californian Presidents would serve two 3 year terms. Thanks!

I'm assuming you mean John Frémont?

Are the term limits forever, like in America (where Bill Clinton can never be President again),  or applying to continuous terms, like in the Republic of Texas (where Sam Houston was President #1 and #3).

Nitpicking, I know. :P

This is remarkable, keep it up.

Btw, absolutely spectacular maps.

Term limits in Texas and California are forever, but the first Texan president's only ran for one 3 year term as Californian President's usually run for two 3 year terms, but they have no limit so a Texan or Californian President could run for 8 terms or something like that.

Not quite.

Article II, Section 2 of the 1836 Constitution:

"The first President elected by the people shall hold his office for the term of two years, and shall be ineligible suring the next succeeding term…"

http://texashistory.unt.edu/permalink/meta-pth-5872:1081

This is a form of term limits.

I forgot to tell you that Mirabeau Lamar led a Constitutional Amendment that actually led to unlimited term limits, it was suppost to favor the Expansionist party but it had a a better effect with the Lone Star Party.

Okay, then.

12Th President Winfield Scott(1849-1857)Whig
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Under President Scott, numerous compromises were created, the Compromise of 1850, the New Missouri Compromise, the Kansas-Nebraska Act and the country had to begin to truly face the ideas of Slavery and "Popular Sovereignty". Major opponents of the Compromise of 1850 were the Northern Whig leaders who saw the 1850 Compromise as a Pro-South law that only benefitted slavery. The Fugitive Slave Act would be implaced and the Northerners would admit Oregon as a free state but it wouldn't satisfy many Southerners and would lead to the New Missouri Compromise which would draw the border between Slave and Free territory along the lines of the state of Missouri's most northern border. The new Missouri Compromise would satisfy the major leaders of the Northern Whigs, William Seward, Daniel Webster and Oregon Governor Abraham Lincoln grudgingly accepted the Compromise.

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Slave States and Territories
Free States and Territories

So the southern part of the Nebraska Territory is slave while the rest is free?

I may have missed this, but what do you call the panhandle of Florida that is apparently now a state?

The name for it has always been West Florida.

Thanks.

The map is right after the New Missouri Compromise so the map could change and southern Nebraska is probably going to be annexed to the Kansas Territory.

Bleeding Nebraska(1855-1859)
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After the New Missouri Compromise was put into effect a problem arose, the southern most part of the Nebraska Territory was incorporated into slavery territory. Many Northerners saw this isn't a great problem and began to put laws into effect for the Slave portion of Nebraska to be annexed into the Kansas Territory but Stephen Douglas said that the Nebraska Territory should hold a vote to decide if they wish to be a Slave or Free territory, an ideal called Popular Sovereignty. Pro Slavery and Pro Free supporters flooded into the Nebraska Territory to vote for the rights of territory to become a Free or Slave territory, one of the Pro Free was the extreme Abolitionist John Brown. The Antislavery won the vote, but angered many Pro-Slavery and began a bloody guerrilla warfare in the Nebraska Territory over the Slavery issue. The Federal government didn't recognize the vote or the Pro-Slavery side and left the state in a bloody chaos for 4 years.

As Nebraska still bled from guerrilla warfare, the nation prepared once again for the Presidential Election. A new party had risen to national status, the Republican Party which championed an Antislavery ideals and was a large threat to the Whigs and the Democrats in the upcoming election. The Democrats nominated Franklin Pierce as a sacrificial goat for the election and picked Lewis Cass as his VP. For the new Republicans chose John McLean and William Dayton for the 1856 general election and for the Whigs, Millard Fillmore was nominated on the 4Th ballot after a fight with William Graham for the nomination and his Vice President was former congressman Garret Davis, a staunch Anti secessionist. The Presidential Election of 1856 would show a suprising surge of Republicans in the Senate and the House but wouldn't make them the majority.

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Millard Fillmore/Garret Davis(150 EV 38% PV
Franklin Pierce/Lewis Cass(63 EV 30% PV)
John McLean/Willaim Dayton(73 EV 32% PV)

13Th President Millard Fillmore(1857-1861)Whig
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After Millard Fillmores election to the presidency, he had to face the slavery issue as people debated through out the nation and citizens still fought a bloody conflict in the Nebraska Territory. President would recognize the Omaha Constitution, which would recognize the Nebraska Territory as a free territory and angered many southerners in the process. The Dred Scott case would be another fight with free and slave supporters over the issue of a slave named Dred Scott that had went with his master to the Nebraska Territory which was now a free territory and lobbied that since he was brought to a free territory, that he was free himself, but the Supreme Court didn't see it that way and ordered that Dred Scott was property and that his master could take him anywere he wished. Outraged poured from the Whigs and Republicans and many Whigs said that Millard Fillmore was to soft on the slavery issue and Oregon Governor Abraham Lincoln would denounce Fillmore as a "accomplice to the Slave Power". Panic would sweep the nation with the Panic of 1859 which after the Democratic took the majority in the Senate and pushed to lower the tariffs and would lead to the Panic and Treasury Secretary Thomas Corwin began to issue deficit financing for the government, which would anger the Democrats. The secession of South Carolina on December 20Th and soon many other southern states had said they would secede after the 1860 election if another Whig was elected to the presidency was another hit to Millard Fillmore esteem and he said he wouldn't run in 1860.

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The hatred for President Millard Fillmore.

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Things were going on in Texas, the slavery issue in Texas was growing in the nation and had the Lone Star party a more Antislavery while the Expansionist Party was more of a pro slavery supporter and the Texan Whig party was the middle man, putting a Union ideal to people and there message of Unionism would win them the Texan Election of 1856 when Whig Governor of Fredonia, Elisha Pease was elected the 8Th Texan President and steered the nation from the slavery issue and the possibility of any inciting rebellion in the Southern states of the United States. President Pease would also continue to map out the most western edges of the Republic and also increase the Texan military for any invasion of Texas by land grabbing Southerners from the US.

The multied party US Election of 1860 was a four way vie for the presidency with the Democrats easily nominating Stephen Douglas and Hershel Johnson as their nominees while the struggling Whig party had many of their supporters and leaders left for the Republican party, they would nominate a Southern Unionist John Bell and Abraham Lincoln would be picked as Bell's Vice Presidential nominee. The Republican had to pick between four major candidates, the Radical William Seward, Salmon Chase a former Democrat, Edward Bates a former Know Nothing and has little support with the German Americans that dot the western United States and Simon Cameron who was said to be to old for their nomination. The Republicans would go with William Seward and Hannibal Hamlin as their nominees as a splinter group from the Democratic party would nominate Howell Cobb and John Breckinridge under a "Leave the southern way of life alone" base. The election would have a stalemate with Seward and Douglas, the victor would have to be decided in the House of Representatives and after a long thought, both Cobb and Bell would throw there support to stop Seward under the assumption that William Seward would ignite a Civil War in the south and Stephen Douglas becomes the 14Th President of the United States.

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Stephen Douglas/Hershel Johnson(110 EV 36% PV)
William Seward/Hannibal Hamlin(102 EV 31% PV)
John Bell/Abraham Lincoln(56 EV 21% PV)
Howell Cobb/John Breckinridge(31 EV 12% PV)

Just a suggestion: instead of using yellow, use gold.  It shows up better.

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After what some people saw as a trick to the America people, on March 4Th Inauguration Day, Stephen Douglas was officially made the 14Th President of the US, he would say in his inaugural address that he would unite the seceding southern states back into the Union, with negotiations President Douglas passed the Douglas Pact which would make slavery exist until 1894 in the United States and this infuriated the Abolitionists and the major leader was Governor Abraham Lincoln. Lincoln would return to Oregon with displeasment with Stephen Douglas would declare the famous Portland Proclamation in which Lincoln would announce that President Stephen"Little King" Douglas had made a deal wit the devil and the blood was on his hands, he would also tell that the national government had become corrupt and as it says in the Constitution "That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness". He also would go on to explain that the "Little King" had shackled the basic rights of men "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness". Under this unfair government, Governor Lincoln said that he had officially pushed secession through the Oregonian legislator, seceding from the Union and forming an independent Republic of Cascaidia. Soon riots in the Washington Territor would overthrow the Territorial Governor in Olympia and instating former Territorial Governor La Fayette McMullen and allying the Washington Territory with Cascadia, sending representatives to Salem and unanimously making Abraham Lincoln the President of Cascadia.

Awesome update.  Keep it up :)

Something like this?
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Yes; that is much better, thanks :)

YES! Cascadia! I always thought we would rock as a nation, does BC get to join us in this endevour?

Maybe? Who knows, but British Columbia is going to effect Cascadia.

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With the secession of Oregon and the Washington Territory to form the Republic of Cascadia, under the leadership of Abraham Lincoln it was now clear there would be an American Civil War, but not over slavery but over the federal government. As numerous former slaves and Abolitionists came by the droves to Cascadia, now former US General John Pope became the Commander of the Cascadian Army and Isaac Stevens became a General in the Cascadian Army. American forces would try and quickly push through Cascadia at the Battles of Bitteroot Range and Fort Greenstone, many Mormons also came from California to aid the large number of Mormons in the Washington Territory in their fight for independence from the US. General McClellan's forces were stalling in the battlefront in Eastern Washington Territory, the Cascadian Army may be smaller but it makes up for it with good generals and the know how about the land greatly equals in the battlefield. Battle after battle still showed that the US forces were slowly moving into Cascadian land, but it would take a long time to reach the capitol at Portland at the rate they are going. After only several months at war, a ambush on McClellan's forces by a large guerrilla army decimated and shook the US troops, also General McClellan was killed by a Cascadian sniper. President Douglas would send two Generals to replace McClellan and hopefully bring a swift victory over Cascadia, these Generals were Robert E. Lee and Ulysses S. Grant.

Awesome!!! I like it, I should post some stuff I wrote on another website here that is more 1800's alternate history.

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With General Lee and Grant's forces only scratching into the Cascadian territory, former President Winfield Scott comes up with the Anaconda Plan, that to stop Cascadia, American forces must cut the rogue nation in two by first taking the Snake River and use that to ride it to the Columbia River, a natural border that cuts through half of Cascadia. As the US forces slog their way through Cascadia, Abraham Lincoln works out a treaty with the Natives that if they help Cascadia and eventually win the war of Secession, they will grant them a independent territory of their own, Abraham Lincoln and Sitting Bull would create the Greensun Treaty and aid the Cascadian Independence movement.

With the Civil War now drawing to its 1st year, the US forces has gotten some momentum in the war and hope to complete the Anaconda Plan and split Cascadia in two. The American forces momentum would end at the Battle of Mount Pope where the Cascadian forces led by General John Pope fought the US forces led by Ulysses S. Grant and the US forces were crushed by the Cascadian forces at the battle and had the Americans in full retreat and with their commander General Grant dead because of it, growing sentiment to the rebels and ending the war continued to flourish in the rest of the US.

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After the death of US General Ulysses S. Grant, President Douglas would send a up incoming General William Tecumseh Sherman to take Grants place and fight on the Snake River campaign. President Stephen Douglas had to deal with the growing threats from the "Greencoats" or the northerners that sympathize with the Cascadian cause, many Republicans and fought bitterly with them and the Republicans and leftover Whigs in Congress and the Senate. By 1862, the war had progressed and the US soldiers were marching into Cascadia with pride after their victory at the Battle of Clark River and with this, Cascadian forces and their Indian allies fought even harder and used their guerrilla warfare to try and halt the American forces, but it does seem that the US now has momentum in Cascadia and hope to end the Civil War soon floods the American people. Also the House and Senate election occur, with the Senate remaining a powerful Democratic majority and after the Republican takeover of the House after the 1860 House elections using their Slavery banner, but slavery had cooled and hasn't an issue to many people now and what mattered was patriotism for the United States and their hopefull triumph over the Cascadian Republic. The Democrats whittle down the Republicans power in the House and take the House by a fair margin, the ailing Whigs are able to use a Unionist base to hold on to most their House seats.

House Total: 235
Democratic Party -  95(+51)
Republican Party - 80(-28)
Whig Party - 49(+19)
Independent - 11(+10)

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In short time, new General William T. Sherman came into an uneasy friendship with Robert E. Lee, Lee had seen Sherman as a young General with little experience while Sherman had belief in abolishing slavery and Lee didn't much care for the abolition of slavery but both men were cunning on the battlefield. The Battle of Fort Lander was a suprising victory for the US and they also struck the Cascadian forces with revenge for the fallen Grant by killing Cascadian General Isaac Stevens at the battle. General Sherman would submit his plans for a March to the Columbia, which would be approved by President Douglas and General Sherman would engage in a furious campaign to push to the Columbia River.

After a year and a half of General Sherman's March to the Columbia, Cascadia had gotten even more desperate as American forces continue to force their way to the Columbia River. The Cascadian military had been largely expanded from the beginning of the war, with the creation of Indian and Black regiments and the Cascadian soldiers had been trained by several former British officers that were in Canada at the time and came down to Cascadia to "assist" in the Cascadian War of Independence. Now Sherman wishes to have a March to the Sea and a complete Total War to effectively cut the rebel nation in two and take their capitol and hopefully cripple their main government in the process, but President Douglas is very weary of Sherman's Total War and orders not to attack yet, the Election of 1864 is fast approaching and Douglas hopes to win a second term. Anyway Cascadia has gained valuable time to regroup and continue to fight against the US.

Democrats would easily renominate Stephen Douglas for president but they had a problem with his VP, Hershel Johnson of Georgia and replace him with a War Democrat like Daniel Dickinson, Ben Butler or Joseph Holt but Douglas would keep Johnson and a splinter group would nominate Ben Butler and Dickinson for the election. The Republican side was crowded with many "Greencoats" or northern sympathizers and Thaddeus Stevens would run on a strong anti war, anti slavery base to win the nomination and picked Benjamin Wade as his running mate, this ticket was seen as to radical and some voters would be turned away by this. The Whigs would take advantage of this and unite the Know Nothings and the portion the Republican party that was turned away by the Radical Ticket and William Brownlow was chose as the nominee and Nathanial Banks as VP. Stephen Douglas wins the election, but only with the help of the House to crown him the winner of the election.

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Stephen Douglas/Hershel Johnson(130 EV 38%)
Thaddeus Stevens/Benjamin Wade(87 EV 30%)
William Brownlow/Nathaniel Banks(90 EV 32%)

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-A Win and a Loss
After being reelected to the presidency, Stephen Douglas would put into effect General William T. Shermans March to the Columbia plan was now in effect and a ferocious attack on all sides of the Cascadian forces finally gave way to numerous victories for the US and a portion of the Columbia River was taken and Sherman's new plan, the March to the Sea had now begun with US forces taking their first steps on Oregonian soil with the Battle of the East Bend where General Pope would valiantly lead forces against the US forces led by William Sherman and Robert Lee. After the 6 day battle for only a small portion of the Columbia, it now seems that things could repeat themselves and the American forces could become bogged down in the fight for the Columbia River. Cascadian General Joseph"Fighting Joe"Hooker would eagerly command the Army of the Columbia against the US forces, attacking with lighting speed and guerrilla warfare, Hooker successfully did damage and slowed down the US forces for sometime, one of the main battle scared regiments were the 23rd Ohio Regiment, one of the casualty's was Major Rutherford B. Hayes. It was now late 1864 and William Tecumseh Sherman's total war on Cascadia had just begun.

It was early 1865 and the US forces had huge parts of Cascadia now in their possesion, the flame of Cascadian Independence was now beginning to dim and the Americans marched for the Capitol, Portland. The sweet smell of victory was wafting over the American forces as the ever more pushed into Cascadia. Cascadian President Abraham Lincoln threw everything he had against the quickly overwhelming American forces, even throwing the  Lincoln Log Infantry, a guerrilla infantry unit that was involved in holding back the American forces for some time, Robert Lincoln the son of Abraham Lincoln, was also apart of the Lincoln Log Infantry as a Major and would distinguish himselves as a rising military star. After the fall of Fort Zion and the continued attacks from the US, Cascadia was pushed further and further into their territory and Sherman's March to the Sea was working flawlessly.
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The fight has here for Cascadia, US troops were marching towards Portland the capitol, Cascadian would throw everything they had to defend the remaining portions of Cascadia including Joseph Hooker and the Lincoln Log Infantry to stop the incoming American forces at the Battles of Albina and East Portland were the General Robert E. Lee would defeat the Cascadians and force them further and closer to Portland. American forces would surround the city on three sides with Generals Sherman, Lee and Johnston leading this three way army, after the bloody fight they would move into the city and march through the Tualatin Mountains and implace cannons and begin an bombardment of the city. Weakened and in shambles, the Cascadian forces were pushed more and more into the center of the city and soon former a defensive line around the "Green" House and fought to the death. The line broke after several hours and US forces stormed the Capitol building and captured several of President Lincoln's cabinet members but hadn't captured Lincoln himself and a hasty search for the rebel leader was on. Abraham Lincoln would meet up with General Pope's retreating forces and aim for the remaining Cascadian controlled area of Washington and only to hinder this was the continual harassment by American scout forces, but this would be a bad omen that the major forces of the America army were on their way. Planning was made by Pope and Lincoln to make a last ditch fight to try and hold off the American forces, in what could be called stubborn Abraham Lincoln wouldn't leave the Cascadian army to flee to Olympia and instead stay and give help anyway he could in the fight. This would be the last major battle in the American Civil War, the Battle of Tetawken Pass were the Cascadian forces would use a defensive line against the onslaught of the US forces, fighting for nearly a day until a suprise attack crippled the defensive line and led to the death and capture of many Cascadian troops including Abraham Lincoln. After the capture of Lincoln and much of his successors, Territorial Governor LaFayette McMullen would declare himself the acting President of Cascadia.

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After the journey to Washington DC, rebel President Abraham Lincoln would be put on trial by the Supreme Court, only having some support from Samuel Nelson, the Supreme Court would charge Abraham Lincoln with treason against the United States and order him death by hanging. The time was 4:17 and the date was July 6Th 1865 and the nation had celebrated its 82nd birthday only two days earlier but today would be the day that Abraham Lincoln would be hanged, he would write in a journal he had "I have seen a many things in this nation, but for most I have seen the flame of justice, the small glimmer of a new hope for this nation and there must be something new in this country for I fear the problems will only become greater and the people's liberties will be trampled on for a years to come, I hoe that my friends and family will carry on this ember of liberty after my flame has been extinguished today...". Reluctantly President Douglas and First Lady Adele C. Douglas would go to Ford's Theater to see the play Our American Cousin, with the American Civil War now over for several months now, it would seem that it was over, but after only 90 minutes into the play, there would be two shots echo from the Presidential Box as President Stephen Douglas was slumped over and in horrible pain as the bullet had been shot into his skull while Vice President Hershel Johnson wasn't moving and was slumped on the floor, the perpetrator of this was Mary Todd Lincoln, the wife of Abraham Lincoln. The presidents guard Henry Rathbone would storm into the box and take Mary Todd Lincoln into custody as she was rambling on about how "The government took my husband, they took him from me!" . President Douglas would be rushed to a nearby saloon by the name of  Tartavul's Saloon and would be kept there for an agonizing fight for life, he would die only one day later. With the President and Vice President dead the President Pro Tempore of the Senate was next in line for the presidency and Robert M.T. Hunter would become the 15Th President of the United States on February 9Th 1866.

Another post is coming up soon but I need some help, who buys Alaska if the US turns it down?

Britain

There actually some mistrust between Russia and Britain so they might not sell it to Britain but it's top number one on the seller's list for Alaska but does anyone else have any other ideas who could buy Alaska?

Here is several possible nations Alaska could go to

1. Britain
2. France
3. Spain
4. Texas
5. California
6. Russia (they keep it)
7. Japan (possibly in the future)
8. USA (possibly in the future)

15Th President Robert Hunter(1866-1869)Democratic
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After being sworn in as president on February 9Th, he would tell the nation "The mending of the US had begun, with the tragic passing of both President Douglas and Vice President Johnson and with a Civil War that has open wounds, we must continue the healing process". Hunter would be at odds with the Republicans with his ferocious hunt for the remaining Cascadian rebel leaders, this would force many from hiding and head to Canada but with the help of the Whigs he was able to keep control in the House and the Senate during his administration. Irish American rebels would lead raids into Canada called the "Fenian Raids", Hunter would jail them immediately, he would soon face financial troubles and after several attempts by Texas to purchase the Indian Territory, he would sell it to Texas for 2 million. Another possible land grab for the United States came from the Russian held territory of Alaska, it would be offered to the US for a large lump sum of money, but the price of Alaska would cancel out the money they gained when they sold the Indian Territory to Texas, so President Hunter would decline the offer and several other nations would try and vie for the arctic icebox.

Constructive Criticism.


Any war fought in Cascadia at that time period would have looked nothing like the actual American Civil War.

First off, the nature of the region itself would have made set piece battles almost impossible.  Without large populations, large farms, developed transportation routes, etc all, how would either side, but especially the United States, be able to afford to field a large, concentrated army, of any kind, in one place?  The famrs around the area would have been barely enough to sustain the locals, and their forces, let alone an invading Federal Army, and so your conception of a "March to the Sea" likely couldn't have occurred.

The best way to move troops into the area probably would have been by ship onto the West Coast, but even that is a dicey prospect, as you would have to move the entire US Navy, which wasn't very impressive at the time, all the way around South America, then back up.  A very dangerous, very time consuming journey.  By the time they landed, half the men would be diseased.  And even then, it would have taken years to build up a force of just 40,000 or so.

Most likely, the Cascadians would endeavor to fight a guerrilla war, with a very important battles, but by that I mean more along the size of Glorieta Pass, or some of the other battles fought in the Trans-Mississippi Theater.  Certainly nothing even approaching the size of even the smaller battles in the Virginia campaigns.

As such, many of the big name generals we associate with the Civil War would have been terrible choices to lead the effort.  Most of the commanders who rose to prominence would be old Indian fighters; men like John Buford.  Lee and Grant wouldn't even make it to the radar.  And the Army would probably be more immersed in political appointments under a Douglas Administration than under Lincoln in the real TL, and they would have been even less effective in the first few years.

The British almost certainly would have become involved at a high level.  They always fears U.S. invasion of Canada, particularly on the Pacific Coast.  Denying them access to that coast altogether in favor of a small, non-threatening power, would be very much in their interests.  The French, in the meantime, would probably jump into help, hoping to get Mexico established before the U.S. threatened to activate the Monroe Doctrine on old Maximilian.

The war itself could last as long as a decade, or longer, assuming Britain and France decided not to jump in, as the U.S. would have no effective way of gaining support for the cause, getting men to fight the rebels, or supplying them once they got there.  In contrast, the Cascadians would at least have access to Pacific trade routes, and major home field advantage would keep them in the hunt.

It's alright about criticism, Britain and France don't join because Britain see's this as a way to weaken and hold back the US while France is more worried about Texas using their version of the Monroe Doctrine. I haven't posted most of this yet and as for the Civil War I was trying to mirror it with the Civil War in the South and there are still large flare ups of rebellion in Northwest years after the "official" end of the Civil War.

As for the generals sorry about that, could you help me with them, some possibles under a Douglas Administration, there's the Election of 1868 coming up.

Possible Generals during the American Civil War
-John James Peck
-Don Carlos Buell
-Lucius Fairchild
-William Harney
-Stephen Hurlbut
-Braxton Bragg
-George McCall
-Jesse Reno
-William Sherman
-David Twiggs

The Election of 1868 would have two military leaders running under the Republican and Democratic parties while a dying Whigs nominated virtual unknowns Pennsylvania Governor Andrew Curtin and Representitive John Creswell. The Republicans had only a few candidates running for the nomination, General William Sherman was the major factor, gaining much support in the Republican party as only several favorite sons would challenge him. The Democrats would nominate Don Carlos Buell on the 5th Ballot after beating out President Robert Hunter and George Pendleton.

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William Sherman/Schuyler Colfax(167 EV 41%)
Don Carlos Buell/Thomas Marshall(113 EV 37%)
Andrew Curtin/John Creswell(23 EV 22%)

16Th President William T. Sherman(1869-)Republican
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After a suprise victory for the Republicans and only having to loose Pennsylvania to loose the election, but this didn't happen and now President Sherman gets to work on his plans, he would put even more pressure on the Occupied Cascadian Territories and would oversee the control Cascadia to become completely dominated by the Bourbon Democrats. The occupation of Cascadia would become even stricter after President Sherman officially suspended the Constitution in the occupied Cascadia and had a Occupation Governor implaced by the President, making him an extension of the President. Things were happening in the US, William Sherman had just past a law officially making Christmas a federal holiday and it seem that the US was slowly climbing over the Civil War and the rebellions that followed. Britain had not taken it's chance to effectively cripple the US during the Civil War and now with growing national pride and Sherman's ideas of a expansion across the Pacific and Atlantic had them on the defensive, they would continue to pump in more weapons smuggled down from Canada to the remaining Cascadian rebels. As smuggling activities continued under former Cascadian President LaFayette McMullen, these weapon runners major convoy lines were discovered and with this the British involvement was found to be true, President Sherman would be quite outraged and say that if the British Empire doesn't halt the continued weapons and money laundering to the traitorous Cascadian rebels, this will be an act of aggression against the United States, Britain began to mobilize forces along the US/Canada border, Britain had made up it's mind now it's the US turn and on March 12Th they would pass a declaration of war against Britain, the War of 1871 had begun.

TEXAS: The 1860's

As the US struggled with the slavery issue, Texas would also have to face slavery, the eastern Texas mainly centered in Fredonia and parts of Jacinto but in land mass, slavery was only about two/fifths of the makeup of Texas. As the US solved the slavery issue for a long while by the Douglas Pact, the Lone Star and Whigs would try and pass a Texan version of the Pact but it would fail. The Federal District of Austin was the first of abolitionism in Texas, under Austin Mayor B.F. Carter would pass the Federal District Abolition Act, it was a unpleasant law for the Expansionists but with the help of President Sam Houston it would quiet the slavery storm for a short while. The boiling point hit when President Mirabeau Lamar died in 1860, letting loose numerous other Radical Expansionists try and vie for the power vacuum in the party and this new generation of leaders of the Expansionist are under the sway of slavery and the new immigrant Americans from the southern states. In the final days of the third presidency of Sam Houston(1859-1862), Houston would try and begin to end the slave trade into Texas and as a result, angered the Expansionist and many slave holders about this. The short lived Texan Slavery War or the Texan Civil War would be waged after a Radical Expansionist by the name of Louis Wigfall would use the Texan Constitution against the law imposed on the Slave Trade from the US, in Wigfall's word's "They take our slaves today, tomorrow our freedom!", this became a rallying cry for Pro Slavery Texans and after a flash point began when Secessionist Texan rebels took control of a portion of an outlying part of Nachadoches, Texan forces would take on the rebels and defeat them easily but a small force of 18 southern immigrants came to the rebels to late and found the Texan army instead a bloody skirmish began and left all but 6 of them dead. Angered by this, pro slavery supporters began to take up arms against the Texan government. After the much disputed Texan Election of 1862, Lone Star Representative John Hancock would be elected the 10Th President of Texas over Louis Wigfall and former President Elisha Pease of the Whigs. Pro Slavery Texans would begin to rally around Louis Wigfall but many weren't about to actually take up arms at the time but Wigfall would call on "All that wish to continue to protect the Texan Constitution against devilish scalawags as John Hancock and Sam Houston, bring arms against this corrupted federal government...". Raids and skirmishes would flare up in towns and cities like Paris, Nachadoches and Galveston, but these were only small compared to a real battle and only having at least a few hundred(100-250) troops usually under the command of the Texas Rebels or "Wigfall Crusaders". President Hancock would become more worried after the southerners from the United States that were beginning to get weapons and troops and sending them to the Wigfall Rebels, as a result, Texan troops would be stationed all along the eastern border between Texas and the US, it would anger people on both sides of the border. The Rebellion would last from 1862 to 1864, it would change the Texan people and set the stage for the coming of the emancipation of slavery in the upcoming 1870's.

Right now I'm working on a new post about the 1871 War, but right now I need a list of British officers who could fight in the 1871 War, I need Brits who could lead forces on the sea and on the land and Americans that can fight in the war also. Could anyone come up with a list of generals and admirals please?

I'm still hoping for a list of Admirals and Generals for the 1871 War, but for now here's more info on what happened to Texas during the 1860's.

Texan Election of 1865
As the Slavery issue began to cool, incumbent President John Hancock would run for reelection, becoming the first to do this against the Expansionist candidate John Hemphill, a more moderate or liberal Expansionist and Secretary of State under the Independent presidency of Sam Houston(1859-1862). Hemphill would paint him as a different candidate a "change" candidate of sorts, working to balance slavery in Texas, expand women's sufferage and he was a expert on Mexican and Spanish law. The 1865 election had a six point margin of victory over John Hancock by John Hemphill.

11th Texan President John Hemphill
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The presidency of John Hemphill was a golden age for Texas, after arriving through the tumultuous years of the Texan Rebellion, this would be a change of parties and a change of ideals for Texas. Some Radical Expansionist would try and push Hemphill to pardon Louis Wigfall from jail but bluntly refused. President John Hemphill and Californian President John Bigler began to lay out the foundation of the International railroad that would link Texas and California, before this many of the Texan railroads were centered in Fredonia and parts of Jacinto and Rio Grande. As it seem that Texas was coming into a golder age, after several attempts by former President Hancock and now President John Hemphill would work and the Indian Territory would be purchased for about 2 million. As his popularity surged ahead, the Electoral College Act of 1867, that would give more strength to the electoral college, which was still in it's infancy then. The ideals of Manifest Destiny would sound out once again over the Republic, a new expansion of their borders would come from the possibility of annexing Santo Domingo but for now election day approaches.

Texan Election of 1868
Some former contenders from 1865 would fiddle with a run for the Expansionist Party nomination against incumbent John Hemphill, one was the main challenger from 1865 the lawyer Felix Young, none of them would run and would let John Hemphill be easily nominated. The Lone Star Party and the Whigs would join and nominate Lemuel Evans and J.H. Lyons on a fusion ticket for the election. The Election would have the first time the Electoral College was used, a crude version but it worked, Fredonia had 4 electors, Jacinto had 3 and Rio Grande had 2, there was some debate to give a elector to the Federal District of Austin but this would not happen. Hemphill won the Electoral College and the Popular vote.

E-John Hemphill/Edward Clark(55% EV 6)
L/W-Lemuel Evans/J.H. Lyons(45% EV 3)

President John Hemphill's Second Term(1868-1871)
After only a short while after being inaugurated for his second term, Santo Domingo would have a offer to Texas by their president Buenaventura Báez that if Texas would pay 1 million to Santo Domingo, the nation would be annexed to the Republic of Texas. Expansionist were in powere and jumped for this, it easily was passed in the House and Senate and approved by President Hemphill, on June 30th, 1869  San Domingo was officially annexed to Texas. Other things happened during the years, there was a fight to repeal the Electoral College Act of 1867 in 1870 but this was defeated but the Electoral College was still unfavored by many people, the International Railroad, the "Republic" Railroad began to near completion finally after a suprising 6 years. John Hemphill would be mainly known as the "Great Annexer" having Santo Domingo and the Indian Territory come under control of Texas in his 6 years in office.

Anyone have any questions?

Britain had a difference to the US, under a peaceful Prime Minister and lax look on the US, it had been surprised as how many of the Americans had supported President Sherman. Britain had William Gladstone as their Prime Minister, a man that had supported the Cascadians during the Civil War and had a foreign affairs were that to "promote peace and understanding" this was laughable as the 1871 War began. Prime Minister William Gladstone had said the war would be a countdown to the 1872 Presidential Election in the United States, that Britain would demoralize the American people and military to hopefully swing the election to a peace Democrat in 1872. As the Franco-Prussian War raged in Europe, the Royal Navy began there move towards the United States in hopes of a blockade and aiding Canadian and British forces fighting on the land. First movement by both sides were the invasion of Upper New York, Vermont and New Hampshire in a hope to secure a foothold and conquest of the Hudson River in the near future, the main bloody battles would be fought on the Great Lakes and also to hold back the American armies from taking the Canadian capitol of Ottawa and Toronto.

Battles ranged from the 2nd Battle of Lundy's Lane to the bloody Battle of the Champlain Canal. British and Canadian forces swarmed through upper Maine with only minor skirmishes at first until the British began to use the Maine coast as a jumping off point for a British invasion of Boston and after a failed invasion of Boston, the US would force the British from the Maine coast for now. The war on the Great Lakes would have numerous battles on Lake Erie and Lake Ottawa, a daring British forces invaded Cleveland, Ohio and burned numerous parts of the city down and quickly left, this would be a common use with both sides to quickly raid each others cities and usually burn down parts of the cities as well.

As the 1871 War was underway, the 1872 Election had come to the United States. Incumbent William T. Sherman had to drop his incumbent Vice President Schuyler Colfax because of his embroilment in the Crédit Mobilier of America scandal, the search for a new Vice President soon got underway. The Democrats tried for the White House with Fernando Wood, a former NYC mayor and now Representative from New York as a compromise candidate with Lyman Trumbull as his Vice President. At the Republican Convention in Philadelphia, the major task was to nominate a new Vice President and incumbent Schuyler Colfax would still run but a upstart Ohio Governor James Comly pulled a small margin of victory over him and they officially nominated the Sherman/Comly ticket. As for the Whig Party, there staunch Unionism had been for the Civil War time but there support had eroded away from year to year, to try and gain more support they would change to the "National" Whig Party and to bolster more candidates, several Republicans that wished to run for the presidency but didn't want to run against a incumbent decided to run for the National Whig's nomination. The major candidates were Andrew Curtin, Charles F. Adams, Horace Greeley and Benjamin G. Brown. After debating over it, Horace Greeley and Benjamin Brown.

The Election of 1872
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William Sherman/James Comly(43% 183 EV)
Fernando Wood/Lyman Trumbull(34% 113 EV)
Horace Greeley/Benjamin Brown(23% 43 EV)

As William Tecumseh Sherman was reelected to the presidency, the British idea of an election of a Peace Democrat was crushed and so they went to the next viable option they would bring the hammer down on the United States. The first bloody assaults were  when the Royal Navies swarmed the Coast of Maine and Massachusetts, Battles ensued at the 2nd Battle of Boston, the Battle of Rock Coast had the US repulse both of these attacks but with many casualties because of it. The British would begin a campaign against the US held northwestern Pacific Coast, most of the force would be naval and the British was far superior to the small number of American vessels there, at the same time the few docks and ports for the US ships were ether taken or damaged by the Cascadian rebels and a crushing defeat of the American forces was there and the Royal Navy sailed to the coast with many of the residents welcoming them there in hopes of sovereignty.

I'll be posting soon again, maybe tomorrow or Monday since I'm on July 4Th vacation.

Well I'm back!

I'll begin posting soon.

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1874 had bloody effects on New England, with the  British shelling much of the bordering areas, Burlington would be nearly shelled out of existence just as it had been during the War of 1812. As troops marched through New Hampshire, Vermont and Maine, Americans soldiers were mainly stationed to defend New York or Massachusetts in the Northeast, after this Vermont Governor Asahel Peck would continue to try and push for soldiers but they wouldn't come until the British had pushed their way to the southern part of Upper New England.

In mid August, American forces broke through the Niagara peninsula and made their move towards Toronto and the Canadian capitol of Ottawa. American naval ships to try and storm the "Golden Horseshoe" in a hopeful attempt to close in on Ottawa with two American  forces. After the American breakthroughs in the Niagara campaign, Britain would make their move again at the 2nd Battle of Boston were after a bloody battle lasting several days would lead to a British victory and they now had New York City in their eyes now. New Englanders cries of peace went unnoticed by President Sherman.

The new Cascadian front was terrible for the Americans, with British and Cascadians working together, they easily secured the west coast and sealed it off from the US. France had been talking about joining the war on the United States side but they would now wait until the Americans would win a decisive victory against the British. With the 1871 War raging, the political machine started up for the Congressional Elections of 1874:

House Results:
Republicans: 132 (-37)
Democrat: 129 (+36)
Whig: 7 (-1)  
Greenback: 2 (+2)

After the loses in New England and the Cascaidian region and with the fall of the port city of Boston and now the British have their eyes set on a complete invasion of both New York City and Washington D.C. to effectively end the war and force a peace out of America. Now as the Presidential Election was coming and Republicans were pushing President Sherman to run for a third term as the president. With the looses continuing, America only needed one major victory to gain the aid from France and this would come from the Battle of Long Island. As Britain began there invasion of New York City and the Hudson River, the US had invested in the creation of the Ironclads and the most important, the U.S.S. Oliver Hazard under the command of George H. Perkins and after a fierce fight on both the land and the sea the victory would be able to pump some pride and vigor into the American people and as well as some hope. Soon enough France would declare war on Britain and ally themselves with the US, this war now was becoming completely different.