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With the passage of the Supreme Court Bar Act (http://www.uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=77665.0), the Senate has formally constituted the Supreme Court Bar.

As the sitting AG, I am happy to be of service to the Court in helping to draft regulations for the Bar if they so wish, and I shall be preparing a list of citizens who I will nominate to the Bar, as the Act allows. Should the Justices wish to contact me regarding this subject, please feel free to do so.

Has Atlasia ever had a criminal case?  If not, it would seem this newly created Bar will be like the Maytag Man.

I might add, that if I were representing a defendant, my first bit of advice would be to deregister, and re-register. :)

Yes...it has.  And the Bar bill was created in response to it (aka Atlasia v. Keystone Phil aka Jessica Wallerstein)

That is interesting. Did anyone go to "jail?" :)

No jail here. Only bans on voting/holding office.

He got off on appeal due an apparent fault with the manner in which evidence was attained.
The people, in their infinite wisdom, then decided that they'd make Phil President...and well, I best not speak any more on that subject.

Whist I await the Supreme Court issuing regulations for the Bar and its associated paraphernalia (and again, I extend an open invitation for the Court to contact me if they need assistance), I hereby nominate the following people to the Supreme Court Bar:

Lewis Trondheim
Jas
Sam Spade
Brandon H
Ebowed
Colin Wixted
Torie

Should the Court wish me to present evidence in favour of their admittance, then I will be happy to do so.

Peter, in whose court is the ball at this juncture to do what? 

AFAIK, all the balls are in the Court's court. They can either:
1. Make some regulations, or ask with help to make regulations.
2. Admit, or not, the nominations I had made.

Peter - I'll PM the other court members about their admittance.  Naturally, as a Justice, I would prefer not to see myself on this list until, if and when, I return to being a private citizen (regardless of what that actually means).

Discussions about regulations I suspect will probably have to wait a while.  I don't exactly speak for the Court here, but I speak for myself - this weekend and next week will be quite busy for me - and we will need to circulate and release the opinions for the two cases presently in front of us. 

However, if you or Brandon H want to draft something, I'll be happy to look at it or circulate it (or you can send it to BM to circulate).

I support the nominations submitted by Peter. If Peter intentionally left himself off since he was the AG at the time, then I should probably be removed from that list and Peter should be added. If Peter left himself off simply because he did not want on and it had nothing to do with him being the AG then leave myself on.

These persons have been unanimously approved to the Supreme Court Bar.

Lewis Trondheim
Jas
Ebowed
Colin Wixted
Torie

I am simply awaiting the BrandonH/Peter discussion to finish out before I address his nomination.  Naturally, I took myself off the approval list.

So I can have a drink here now? Good.

Double Tsipouro please.

I deliberately left myself off because I do not like nominating myself. In principle, I have no problem with a serving Attorney General being a member of the Bar, in fact I would encourage it, and I prevail upon Brandon to keep his name in consideration.

I agree with Sam that because of the obvious conflict of interest, serving Justices should not be members of the Bar.

So I can't nominate Peter myself, which otherwise I would be doing now. I ask Brandon to nominate Peter, or Peter to nominate himself, in which case I will be honored to be allowed to sponsor him.

I will accept the nomination.

I nominate Peter to the Bar.

This person has been unanimously approved to the Supreme Court Bar.

BrandonH

We will discuss Peter soon enough.

I would heartily endorse the nomination of Ernest to the bar also.

I fully support the nomination of Ernest.

These persons have been unanimously approved to the Supreme Court Bar.

Peter
Ernest

Supreme Court Bar (as of 08.06.2008)

Lewis Trondheim
Jas
Ebowed
Colin Wixted
Torie
Brandon H
Peter
Ernest

I'd suggest, although I feel it is improper for me to nominate, someone nominate TCash to the bar.

What are TCash's qualifications? Is he in residence?

He's a former member of the court and has posted a few amicus briefs.  Other than that, I'm not sure what other qualifications he holds. 

I was thinking of nominating TCash as well. Besides serving as a former member of the Court, one only needs to look at his performance in the recent Court case.

I nominate TCash to the Bar.

Thanks, guys! Just for the record, here I've been Chief Justice of the Court, governor on several occasions, and Vice President for a bit.

In real life, I'm a teacher of English and Government. In the past, I've taught AP US and Comparative Politics; currently I'm teaching a course for all freshmen at our school on the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, based on the "We the People" curriculum done by The Center for Civic Education.

I'm sure others know a lot more about criminal law than I do, but I'd gladly help how I can and would be honored to serve on the Bar with the fine folks who have already been nominated.

I didn't realize who you were Cash, because I am getting senile. Of course you are qualified!  :)

Given the amount of criminal trials we've had recently, I've been reminding myself to bump up this thread.

Now doing so.

I'm submitting an application pending my resignation becoming effective.

I would like to apply to be sworn in to the Supreme Court Bar.

I checked through the RowanBrandon trial thread, and it appears like Al is now a member of the Supreme Court Bar (and I approve).

I approve of Purple State's admittance.

I would also like to apply, considering I've argued a considerable number of cases already in Atlasian court.

Me too and Franzl as well.

Likewise on Franzl

I've apparantly been admitted to the Mideastern regional bar, but request admittence to the Atlasian Bar as well.

Incidentally, is there any real need for a bar membership beyond maybe being a registered voter or pro se representation? The latter does not require a license to practice law in the real world, so why would it require one in Atlasia?

In United States, no, but in some countries, you must be a member of the Bar, like in Canada (except if you represent yourself).

I like having the Bar because it allows we on the court to keep  out the outright jackasses who want to just grandstand and muck up the process.  (I think we've only ever refused maybe one person).

You, Badger, are welcome as far as I'm concerned, if J. Spade concurs.

I'm fine with Badger too.  He's made a number of cogent arguments in the past, imo.

btw, all names have been added to the Wiki, because as far as I know, only majority approval is needed.

I thank the Court, and see the point raised by Justice Opebo for having such a bar registry to work as a 'troll filter'.

I also want to formally approve TCash101, even though he hasn't been around for a while.

I want to thank the justices for their approval.

I wish to be a member of the Supreme Court Bar.

I don't know - we're going to have to think about this.  :P

Haha, welcome bullmoose..

pick me

no thanks.

bullmoose is in, unfortunately.

Unfortunately?  Geez.

This is a tough court now, bro...  :P

No love for me there already?

I'd like to apply to the Bar.

How many drinks have you had already?

As many as you want me to have had. ;)

That's a good enough response - you're in.

As I like doing things, I'd like to apply if I can..

Would respectfully request to join the Supreme Court Bar.

Both AndrewCT and Junkie have been accepted to the Bar.  Drinks later.

I would like to formally request to be admitted into the Bar.

Can I be admitted into the bar? This ID here that I bought from a guy that someone in my freshman dorm knew says I'm 21 and it looks enough like me and you'll notice I've slipped a $5 under the ID when I handed it to you to help make up your mind to let me in and also if you're taking drink orders I'll have a gin and tonic but hold the tonic.

;)


Ahem. I formally request admittance.

I'd like to formally request that I be admitted into the Bar.

While I'm waiting, can I at least order a Long Island Iced Tea? ;)

Lets see some ID, kid. Hmmm.... your profile says you're 21. OK, good enough for me. :)

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Bacon King is in.  We are still discussing benconstine.

benconstine's request to join the Bar has been denied.

That is all.

I'm going to kindly assume the Court had the courtesy and professionalism to PM Ben with its reasons for denial and steps deemed necessary for later admission, similar to RL. Otherwise such a terse "because we said so" decision would seem a grossly arbitrary misuse of the Court's statutorily granted discretion.

What about my request?

All questions that have been asked have been answered by me.  Basically, we decided there had to be some minimum standards for admittance to the Bar in terms of demonstrated intellectual acuity and legal understanding.  Maybe we'll write something down in the future.  And certainly, ben can resubmit an application if he wants (or a continuing application, I guess).

I didn't see it.  Will be PMed.

I formally request that I be admitted into the Bar. Por favor y gracias.

Inks.LWC is admitted.

Do you allow women?

I will bring this to the attention of my fellow Justices and we'll get back to you on that.

Bump

I would like to most humbly formally request to be admitted into the bar. :)

As member in good standing of the Atlasian Bar, I wish to sponsor this fine candidate and vouch for his character, integrity and intelligence.

He is a law student in Sweden. Do you know how hard that is? The teach law classes---in SWEDISH!! :o

I also wish to sponsor this fine candidate!

Yes.

It took you guys 3 weeks to decide this?

Everytime I think Atlasia couldn't be more of a sausage-fest.....

lol.  I dunno, I just figured it was a rhetorical question, since Texasgurl is a former Chief Justice.  We actually did discuss this as soon as it came up, and we were in agreement.

The answer provided above is just for the benefit of anyone else who would find the otherwise lack of one to be perplexing.

I knda figured as much. ;)

Didn't know about Texasgurl being a former CJ. Neat! When was that?

https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Supreme_Court (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Supreme_Court)

I do hope you guys have not forgotten about me :'(

While the court is back in session I just though I'd check in and see you fellas have ever decided whether or not I may be admitted to the bar ;D

I'd like to repetition that I be admitted to the Bar.

jbrase has been admitted to the Bar.

I hereby petition to be raised to the Bar.

Simfan has been admitted to the Bar.

I formally petition that I be admitted to the Bar.

That was quick.

I would like to formally request being admitted to the bar.

Thank you.

I also request admission to the bar.

I hereby petition to be admitted to the Bar.

Your application has been successful.

So, about me being a bar member?

a 2-1 decision FTR.

Good to know! :) Thanks.

Have I been admitted?  Opebo's response was the only one I got. :P

I'd like to formally petition that I be admitted to the Bar.