Talk Elections

Ok, so we have the same acronym as the Sam Spade Party :P

We share almost the same views as the United Antifederalist League, but we set up shop solely in the Southeast.  Here are our goals:

1.) Electing officials who support rights of region
2.) Electing officials who support the Independence of the Dirty South

Also note we will only be running candidates in the Southeast

I will join.

Membership: 2
Trolls-and-or-Frauds: 2

lol

joke party

Don't you have some Holocaust pictures to enjoy?

Watch it, 10-year-old.

Your like watching a bad Monty Phyton, and I don't like a good Monty Phyton

Also seriously are you complaining about my responses?  Your the one who butted your nose into something and called two people trolls and frauds

I wouldn't worry about him. Anyone who has to cheapen themselves to name calling really has no legit argument. Run along, realpolitik, you're not needed here.

I've no idea what a "Monty Phyton" is. Some form of alcoholic drink, perhaps. Phyton... fy-tonne... futon... ah. Some form of bed then.


Oh, but you are trolls and frauds :)

Pointing out the probable truth is not actually name-calling. Fraud.

We already had the Southeast attempt to seceed once in Atlasia and it was crushed with full impunity, I intend to help with that again if the time comes.

I was about to suggest you join the NCP, but this works, too.

     You have my full support. LET'S TAKE . . . THESE . . . REBS . . . DOWN! Who's with me?

You need to re-register, then.

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=34355.1950

So, you've left the Atlasian Unity Block for a secessionist party?

(yawn)  StatesRights and Jake were much better at this.

"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win"
-Mahatma Gandhi

What do you win? This is a damn computer simulation. We can just set up a loyal Southeastern government.

And what constitutional authority would the Atlasian government have to do that? Unless unionists currently in the Southeast join Columbia and Columbia subsequently ratifies the Atlasian constitution. In that case, we will have succeeed in ridding those willing to stay in the Dirty South of Atlasian intervention. We will be able to make our own laws just like the Atlasian government makes their laws.

Since secession is illegal, the Southeastern government becomes illegal the moment it approves secession. Power then passes normally to John Dibble.

This is a matter of logic:
If The Atlasian Constitution does not mention secession
and The Atlasian Constitution on two occasions grants all powers not given to the federal government to the regions and the people
then Secession is a right given to the regions and the people

I think you really missed the ball where Section 2 is merely to try for appeasement, we honestly don't care if we are part of Atlasia at all.

The UAC disavows all ties with the new secessionist party and would like to remind said party that the UAC favors legal, multilateral dissolution of the federal government, not unilateral secession.

I hope that means a vote against the end of regional senators from your region

There is nothing in the Atlasian Constitution prohibition secession, and all powers not given to the Atlasian government are given to the people. Thus, the secession is legal.

Stop being a damn broken record. Colin's sufficiently debunked your argument.

Please show me this argument.

At your service:

Also I don't want to hear SPC talking like he knows the fucking Constitution. Atlasia's Constitution is not America's and his knowledge of it is probably a hell of alot less than mine. We aren't debating the meaning of phrases written down 200 years ago, these were written three years ago, mostly by Peter Bell with some input and advice from myself, Ernest, Al, and a few others. I also served nearly a year on the Supreme Court, 3 months of that as Chief Justice. I think I know what the hell I'm talking about.

None whatsoever, of course. Just as when we made the same error (of setting up regional governments, then pretending they were genuine federal entities that came together to set up Atlasia) the first time.

Sorry, Colin. I was not aware that participating in a game earlier makes one more literate.

No, but writing the fucking Constitution does. Crazy ass libertarians, now I know why I couldn't stand Ron Paul and his fanboys after a while.

I move that we change the party name to the Regional Preservation Party (gotta use the old acronyms :))

     I would rather change it to Allied Atlasian Rightist Party -- AARP for short.

Tread lightly - the old folks would get quite angry at you stealing their acronym.

     Indeed. I was going for something self-satirizing with the acronym, since the stereotype of conservative Republicans is a bunch of angry, old people.

     I recently noticed that the amendment at dispute has moved to the Senate floor. I'll be closely following the proceedings.

After further consideration, we will be dropping secession from both the name and party platform.  We will simply be pushing for regional rights

So all of you are going to re-register as the Southern Party?

The new name and any new membership is still being discussed

     So far, we have gotten three suggestions:

Regional Protection Party (RPP)
Allied Atlasian Rightist Party (AARP)
Atlasian Tea Party (ATP)

     As party whip, I'm in charge of recruiting members. This is also a nationwide act from now on. :)

I personally like Regional Protection Party because I regret never joining the Ron Paul Party.  I could also go for something a bit more out there, perhaps Regions Ending Get Insane Crazy Idiots Dumbasses Excited (REGICIDE) :)

     I notified several fellow right-wingers about the change in platform. Perhaps when they join, we can hold a referendum on a new name.

That made no sense.

     It's not supposed to make sense. :) Though I have a strong feeling that I am the only one who takes this party seriously. If you'll notice, neither Governor Duke nor any of the other people I invited has re-registered yet. :(

     Maybe getting a new name is more important than I had previously thought.

I just joined. I was being a lazy bum is my only excuse for not reregistering sooner.

     Yes! Now we only need one more person & then we'll be recognized as a major party! Of the nine people I contacted, four have shown interest in joining so far.

After discussing it over with some members, in order to help boost our cause and membership we are renaming to the Regional Protection Party

Once a few more members join we will elect a chair, vice-chair and vote on the following platform planks:

1.) The Regional Protection Party supports the continuation of regional senate elections
2.) The Regional Protection Party opposes efforts to expand the federal government
3.) The Regional Protection Party supports the return of a GM
4.) The Regional Protection Party supports term limits on Supreme Court justices

Hmm... I support all but number 2...

Four for me is a deal breaker

It's not for sure, just throwing things on the ballot to see what people think.  The AUB voted on almost indentical planks

Meeker, that reminded me to post plank 5:

5.) The Regional Protection Party supports a constitutional convention

     Also, we could find non-game related issues to emphasize as well, like the death penalty or abortion. It will be hard to find issues though, because of the amount of variance in the beliefs of the party members.

Variance? At this point, the party is uniformly right-libertarian.

     True, though I have invited several right-populists & staunch conservatives. As such, there will probably be variance in the future.

I support a few points of this. And I can side, to some extent, with the federalists (Damn. Feels weird using that term in this context). But I probably won't join.

     Allies are always appreciated. Not to mention it would be trouble to create a map with Puerto Rico. Anyway, here's the map of membership so far:

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     Southeast heavy I must say. :P

Ah! So someone else is using my format!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_colors

Pick a color.

     Okay, here's the sprite version:

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     As I'm sure you could tell, I picked yellow (Sprite forever! >:().

Which shade of yellow?

     The ones that the Atlas uses. ;)

No. That's too boring. Pick a fancy shade. Or at least specify the percentage.

     You mean as in the percentage of the state's population?

He means what yellow colour you want the RPP to use on the Wiki.

Yes, exactly.

     DarkKhaki in that case. ;)

Unrelated, but I saw that you changed the DC colour to the Wikipedia colour for the real-DC.

Did I? I didn't mean to.

Both ways, I don't mind. The DC is dead and will probably never be resurrected. I won't come back to my old parties, methinks.

Why make so many, then?

Fun.

Like your avatars?

I rarely change them anymore, you might've noticed.

     I'm thinking of donning an R-UK avatar. I've never seen one around here & I'm half-British anyway.

I'll put on a G-FR or I-FR avatar when I go to France next week.

     There, I changed my avatar.

No! The shape of California is way better.

     I've always wanted an R-UK avatar though. I'll change it back in a few hours. ;)

Again with the people that don't understand the idea of voting :P

     I wonder though if this means that ben is thinking about joining the RPP. We always welcome brave citizens looking to add a few drops of lemon to the can of Sprite that is Atlasia. ;)

     I am pleased to announce that the RPP's wiki (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Regional_Protection_Party) is now online. It's not that big yet, but it's only the first draft. :)

     The infobox for the party isn't showing up correctly. I've checked the revisions (I could have sworn that it worked with the first version), but I don't see what the problem is with it.

A lot of things. Not experienced with Wikipedia, I assume?

I'll fix it.

     Thank you. & you're right, thisis the first wiki article I've ever worked on. It's strange though, because in the first edition, the infobox worked perfectly.

     UPDATE: The wiki inffobox is once again working properly.

     Updated map (including meeker & dead0man):

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     EDIT: Daniel Adams joined the RPP. That makes 5 members in the Southeast, 2 in the Midwest, & 1 in the Mideast.

Time to get a name change.

     How come?

The name annoys me.

How about the Conservative Reform Alliance Party?

     Makes me think of Wayne Gretsky doing an impression of MC Hammer.

To be soon renamed the Atlasian Reform Conservative Alliance?

     When we hold our convention, we'll discuss a name change.

When'll that be?

     I don't know. I guess when DWTL decides we have enough members.

So, who exactly is leader here? DWTL or you?

     DWTL is the interim chairman. I'm the interim vice-chairman.

LOL.

     What's so funny? :P

What's he done? All of nothing, I think.

     He & I regularly confer via PM about the party's course of action.

:D

I would love putting in that abbreviation

As PiT stated, we confer quite regularly through PMs.  BTW, I offered PiT the chairmanship but he said he wanted to yield it to me because he felt he better fit for recruiting and since I had been an Atlasian much longer I would be a better fit for the chair.  Personally, I don't think it matters much, everything action we take I plan on calling a vote.  So I guess you could say my main responsibility as chair for right is setting up voting booths

We have 8 members (SPC still registered as SSP, but know where he is).  At 10 I motion for a convention and votes.

I encourage the party to first preference myself, and in a bid for activity 2nd preference Xahar

     I second the motion to endorse DWTL & Xahar for 1st & 2nd preference respectively.

I'd also like to endorse Xahar for Pacific governor

     I support that too (even though we have no party members in the Pacific).

I hope that as a fellow supporter of regional rights that I can get a high ballot preference from the RPP in the Senate election.

     I don't like voting in the absentee booth, but I'm too antsy about our first election, so I'll go ahead & vote now.

     Updated through MasterJedi:

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     To date, we haven't gotten two members in one state. 5 Southeast, 2 Midwest, 2 Mideast.

One member and I'll a vote on the platform and whether to retain myself as chair and PiT as vice-chair/whip/greatest recruiter ever

Other than the protection of regional voting rights, does this party have any other agenda?  I am strongly leaning to the former in any event. The case for doing something else has not been made yet. The burden of proof is on the change agents.

Well, we are billing ourselves as the party for conservatives, although we haven't adopted a platform to the like.  Were basically like the AUB but with a slightly right-wing tilt.  Basically we want to drastically limit any power the federal government has, even with issues that aren't Atlasia exclusive

The game might get dull, if the Senate has nothing to do.  :)  I suppose one could do an archeological dig to find out what has passed in the past that should be repealed.

Well, there are still plenty of bills to be passed to undue federal things.  For example, my last bill on legalizing heroin was a bill about taking power away from the federal government and returning it to the regions.  I wouldn't say anything but senate activity could come from this.

I should like to join your new party, if the party would be willing to accept me.

     New members are always welcome. :)

     EDIT: here's the newest version of the map:

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     This means that we now have members in every region except the Pacific. In total, we have 5 in the Southeast, 3 in the Mideast, 2 in the Midwest, & 1 in the Northeast.

We are more than willing to accept and encourage to vote for our endorsed slate of candidates

Which you have already done :)

Alright, I was going to hold off on voting, but I thought I should do it since the RPP preferences are well-known at this point anyway:

[ 1 ] Fmr. Sen. DWTL
[ 2 ] SDP Chairman Xahar
[ 3 ] Judge HappyWarrior
[ 4 ] Lt. Gov. Benconstine
[ 5 ] Sen. ColinWixted
[ 6 ] Sen. AndrewCT
[ 7 ] Fmr. Gov. Sensei
[ 8 ] Fmr. Sen. Jas
[ 9 ] WRITE-IN: Gov. AHDuke99
[ 10 ]WRITE-IN: Lt. Gov. SouthParkConservative
[ 11 ] WRITE-IN: RPP Vice-Chair PiT
[ 12 ] Sen. CultureKing

I was going to put CultureKing in before I started writing people in, but I didn't feel like renumbering :P  Party members can feel free to do so

The last three are not meant as actual votes so don't feel obligated to include them, I was just paying homage to those who have helped get this party off the ground

Wht Al isn't on your ballot?

I could go on a huge list, but I could with
1.) Accusing my of loving the Holocaust
2.) Overreacting to a joke about a Jewish conspriacy
3.) He repeated calling of the RPP a party of trolls

And on and on

That's a lie. I did not accuse you of loving the holocaust I find your attitude towards the holocaust (which is characterised by callous, brattish sneering and a total lack of humanity) to be utterly despicable and to reflect extremely poorly on you as a person, but that's not the same thing.

You are either an anti-semite or so utterly clueless as to find pretending to be an anti-semite amusing. I look at anything you write about the Jews in the light of that. And so should everyone else.


Now lets see... at the time I made that little remark the only members of your party (whatever it was called then) that I was aware of were you and that nasty rape-loving racist, Duke. Both you are trolls. I wouldn't make that claim now as there are clearly non-trolls in your party (though I've no idea why).

I didn't want to clutter up the voting booth, but can somebody try and convince me one way or the other on term limits for the Supremes?  (or point me to the appropriate thread)

It was a debate that came up awhile and I was trying to gauge opinions.  The idea isn't that the SC cannot serve more than 12 months, its that they have to be reconfirmed.  If a justice is not doing their job, the senate should have the right to remove them IMHO

They can't impeach?

They could, but the process is lenghty and requires an incredible supermajority.  Under the term limits scenario, a simply majority is all that would be require for gaining another term.  And remember, one year is an enternity in Atlas time, very few justices serve that long.

Aye....makes sense.

The RPP will be coming out with a big announcement following the election

STAY TUNED

     Oh. If I had known that's what you meant, I would've voted yes.

*stays tuned*

Tell Duke to stop buying date rape drugs long enough to open the voting booth.

I've joined the party.

:)

I was going to before, but I got really busy and kinda forgot.  lol

:)  Welcome to the Party.

     The map through Inks:

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     In total, we have 5 members in the Southeast, 4 in the Mideast, 2 in the Midwest, & 1 in the Northeast.

One of Down's many interesting features is the fact that he's too cowardly to respond to just criticism.

??  Idk the last time I refused to answer a question.  If I missed something feel free to bump it and I'll answer it

That's not my view of the Holocaust at all, the comment was mocking people who think of the Holocaust as something to take lightly

That statement is so absurd there is really nothing to respond with.  See statement above

There is nothing that suggests either myself or Duke fits the definition of a troll.  The fact that we disagree with you does not make us trolls.  Obviously a lot of people feel the same way considering those that joined the party and voted in the affirmative for getting me as the chair

People who do not understand irony cannot claim it in order to defend themselves.


Your own words do defeat you:









Then there's this sorry thread: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=52952.0
And some stuff here also: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=43926.0

And so on and so forth. Plenty more out there. I'm sure that you'll now claim irony again (though see my earlier post for why that'd still be disgusting). Or trot out your sad little cop-out that "hating Israel isn't anti-semitic".

One of the many interesting things about the virus of anti-semitism is quite how obsessive those who suffer from it can become. Seeps into all kinds of things. Of course, it's possible that you're just a nasty little shit who gets a kick out of pretending to be an anti-semite because other people find anti-semitism so disgusting. Either way...


You are certainly both monsters, and that's proof enough for me.


Amusing. Actually I get on quite well with plenty of people here who I disagree with greatly in political matters.


I wonder how many would have done so if they knew that you have proudly declared that you would vote for Hitler.

:(

     Sad about anything in particular?

My two personal favorites that Al pulled out of there was when I said "Effect of Jews on the Movies" because I read it wrong, and when I defined that anti-Semitism was commonly mistaken to only refer to Jews when it technically means the Middle East as a whole.  But seriously Al, get a life instead of reading old threads desperatley trying to find something that does not exist.

Congrats everyone!  We got every single member of the party out to vote :)

Now, with 13 members we are the second largest party in Atlasia.  Thanks to PiT's recruiting and an effort to keep all our members active, we hope to remain a force.  Even if a huge movement knocks me off in the last few hours, we showed that we are something to be reckon with.

Hopefully in the next nationwide election we can run 2 candidates, and the presidential race remains up in the air for now.  The big announcement on our future is tentatively scheduled for later on tonight.

And here is the big announcement (alright maybe it won't excite you that much :) ):


Following the pickup of a senate seat in the recent August midterm election, the RPP looks to build on its success.  For this, it is only appropriate that the party turns to the region where it exploded and to the person who made it all possible.  It is with great pleasure that I announce PiT will be making his fantasy politics debut in the October Southeast senate race!


Alright, so maybe its not that big of a deal but we want to make sure our party keeps paying attention ;)

Oh, this? Damn, you could've said that it was news I already knew. ;)

You might have been the only outside of the party I think, although I guess almost everyone could have seen it coming.  We are targeting this as our prime pick-up opportunity in the next election after my narrow loss last time around.

     It would be my honor to run for regional Senator of the Southeast. I hope that I receive serious consideration from all the citizens of the Southeast.

Official Party Statement on Southeast Elections

The party would like to issue congradulations to both Gov. Duke on his re-election and the new Lt. Gov. Andy Jackson.  Although the party is sad to lose the Lt. Gov. office in SouthParkConservative, we can understand why voters may have been skeptical at his recent abscene.  We look forward to working with Mr. Jackson toward the continued rebirth of our wonderful region.  God Bless the Dirty South and all of Atlasia

This thread will continue to serve as the party's official headquarters for the time being:

Official Statement on Pending Constitutional Amendment

The party urges all its members, and others of course, to urge their senators to oppose the constitutional amendment at a vote that would end regional senate seats.  We must stand together against this massive intrusion on the rights of the regions.  If the amendment passes the senate, then we urge everyone to vote against it in their respective regions.

Official Endorsement

The RPP officially endorses Inks and HappyWarrior in their bids for the Mideast assembly.  The endorsement for the 3rd seat will held off on at this time

That's an interesting new expression for astroturf.

"We are the Champions" plays in the background:

The constitutional amendment to eliminate regional power in the senate has failed!  God Bless Atlasia!

Praise the great Jesus Christ in Heaven, my friends! For he has smiled down on us today and helped the weak and meek RPP defeat this overstepping amendment. This isn't just a great day for southerners, but a great day for Americans. May God continue to shower us with sweet tea, fried chicken, and beautiful women as we continue to send Him our blessings. GOD BLESS THE DIRTY, DIRTY SOUTH!!!

Atlasians dammit, not Americans.

     In this victory, I extend my deepest thanks to Senators Meeker, Torie, CK, & Andrew for voting nay on this amendment. Sadly, Andrew lost his bid for re-election, but I wish him a bright future as head of the Northeastern Judiciary.

     The map through Ronnie:

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     Now we have members in all five regions. In total, we have 6 members in the Southeast, 4 in the Mideast, 2 in the Midwest, 1 in the Northeast, & 1 in the Pacific.

I don't want to sound like an alarmist, but I caution all RPP members to be wary of xahar. The recent controvery over accusations that he is using the account of cookies n milk makes me think that he is attempting to undermine our party. Cookies n milk cast the tie breaking vote that defeated RPP member SPC and was 2 votes from becoming governor of our great region.

Xahars statements warning me that he had a lot of power in our region is making sense. Because of this, I warn our party members to be wary of him.

I'd like to believe not, but it does seem I bit strange.  We'll place him on official party notice for now, but continue to regard him as an ally against those who wish to harm the regions

Well, that's not exactly what I was referring to when I was talking about my power in the Southeast. Besides, if I was Cookies and Milk, there'd have been more than one vote in the infamous July election.

Is this an endorsement of Andrew? Does the party support him in future elections?

     I didn't intend this to be an official endorsement. Rather, I was merely extending my gratitude towards him. I suppose that we would prefer him to most other NLCers (except Sensei, of course :)).

Well now we control 20% of the senate :)

Anyway, I'll post it here too, vote for Inks/Franzl/Happy in the the Mideast assembly, Hashemite is one of the biggest opponents of regional rights that exists in this great nation.  I will admit I do not know much about Franzl, but he seems like a decent guy out of Atlasia so its worth the risk over the known quantity of horrendousness that is Hashemite.


Update on platform, another senate candidate, and other business shortly.  Glad to see we are staying active and getting everyone out to the polls and other things

Hashemite has always been a thorn in our side. I don't know if it's because he's French or because he's European, but he seems to dislike everything we stand for: personal liberty, freedom, and region's rights. Southerners didn't fight a civil war for no reason, and if he is hellbent on starting another one, I'll rally to my weapons and lay back on my old battle cry: The South will rise again, and this time, we'll win!

He probably also enjoy fancy wine and cheese that would spoil easily in the heat of the Dirty South.  Its kind of funny how much he cried over secession, when in the end he was the one who winded up seceded.  At least AJax sort of seceded and then came back to work with the Dirty South.  This kid just packed up his baguettes and mime costume and went away

I don't eat cheese. Just a heads up.

Well thank you at least for taking your baguettes and mime costume

I eat Kouign Amann. I'm not much into Bro C'hall cuisine.

To quote to the great Eric Cartman, Hashemite left "because he choked on the sweet smell of freedom"

And you know what? Despite his constant name calling, such as fascists, authoritarians, etc, he had the FREEDOM to go. We never forced him to stay. He doesn't think about that.

Please, there is enough humor to revel in in the fact that he is the one who seceded.  All he did was complain about how we discussed secession if other things failed, yet he was the first one lined up to march his little ass to France and secede. 

And then had the audacity to demand his vote be counted in regional matters even after he seceded. Typical French. They want you to do the work for them, but they still want a say.

     In actuality, he was too lazy to head to France. He just remained where he was. Of course, that was in Puerto Rico, so there might have been some wisdom in his decision to not run. ;)

The Regional Protection Party made a splash when they announced that PiT would challenge incumbent Bacon King in the Southeast.  Perhaps this move was quite expected, but maybe the next one is not as much.  The Regional Protection Party is proud to announce that Dead0man will be making his Atlasian political debut as a candidate in the Midwestern senate race.  We urge all party members and those who support the rights of the regions to even exist, given his opponent, to vote for him and give him all the support we can.

You can't win in the Midwest.

Well considering your track record of success of winning races looks like its time for us to give up.

     I'm sure that there are plenty of Midwesterners who would take pause at his recent efforts to neuter the regions, even if they may like him personally. ;)

I'm sure the vast majority of Midwesterners won't care. To win office there, you have to embrace the establishment and wait your turn.

At first I was perplexed as to why Xahar took such an absurd stance, forgot Lewis was a member of the SDP

     Lewis is not just a member of the SDP. He is, so to speak, Lady MacBeth.

Stance? I'm just stating facts.

It's a very unpopulated region.  We'll see what happens when election day rolls around.  Either way we're near guaranteed three seats after this set of elections, a fourth would just be icing on the cake.

Hmm. Most of the Midwest has personally been befriended by Lewis.

Lewis is an antifederalist.

     You're a Midwestern voter. If I may ask, what's your take on this race?

The people of the region know this and acknowledge it? 

Please don't acknowledge Xahar, now he is pretending to know anything another region he has nothing to do with.  The funny part he never does anything for the region he actually lives in

DWDL's gone into spite mode now (I don't know why, but he occasionally does). But the answer is yes. Thus the preponderance of smileys and *hughughug*s.

     The Midwest is the home of hugbox politics, I've noticed. ;)

Guys,

In case you have not noticed I was somehow elected Lt. Governor of the Midwest, so we can win in the Midwest, even if it is completely random!

     That was pretty sweet. ;D Nevertheless, the issue isn't so much winning as it is winning against Lewis. :(

I've gone into "not tolerating arrogance" mode.  Something I can quite often in.  Despite helping you to no end in the last election (which despite all that help you still lost because you couldn't even support from your own party) you find it necessary to trash my party and its candidates instead of doing the traditional wishing of good luck

Trash? No, certainly not. I just said you have no chance. Trust me, I'm familiar with that.

Plus I like Lewis. But good luck anyway.

Xahar, please just refrain from all commenting.  You obviously don't have this place figured out anywhere near as well I do as I have been in the senate for four terms compared to your zero

As you wish, Dear Leader.

Statement on Mideast Assembly Crisis

The party condems Gov. Constine for not using the results of the first election, and then not using the results of the first election.  However, the party does not take a stance on his recall

     I say that we oppose his recall (he won't be there that much longer), but we withhold endorsement from him if he runs for Mideast Governor at any point in the next year or so.

Official Statement Regarding Mideast Gubenatorial Race

The Regional Protection Party is proud to endorse Fmr. Gov. Inks to return to his old job.  Inks has stood for regional rights, compentent government, and change throughout his tenure in Atlasia.

     The map through Driedapples:

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     In total, we have 6 members in the Southeast, 4 in the Mideast, 2 in the Midwest, 2 in the Northeast, & 1 in the Pacific. First new recruit in over two weeks.

Forgot about this....

Official Endorsement

To continue our efforts to bring in Atlasia new and old, the RPP is proud to announce their endorsement of the Lt. Gov. campaign of Daniel Adams

Rundown of federal elections:

Northeast: TBD
Mideast: Meeker
Southeast: PiT
Midwest: Dead0man
Pacific: None (the RPP will not challenge incumbent Torie)

President: TBD

I have just joined the party and will do all I can to spread the ideals and values of the RPP!

     The map through RowanBrandon (we now have two Brandons :))

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     In total, we have 6 members in the Southeast, 4 in the Mideast, 3 in the Northeast, 2 in the Midwest, & 1 in the Pacific. Our position has recently improved considerably in the Northeast. :)

I'd love to take credit for our improvement in the Northeast (since I was the first in there), but I think all due credit is to you, PiT.

PiT is the one that recruited me, so yes all credit should go to him.

17 members strong, nearly the largest party in Atlasia :)

The more the merrier and we are still looking for new members, the battle against the NLCers and SDPers who want to destroy the regions takes a large army

Party convention will be held in October, finalists for the cities will be announced later this week

The current push to remove the power of the regions is the greatest threat facing Atlasian freedoms today. I am very pleased to endorse RowanBrandon in his bid for the Governorship of the Northeast Region. RowanBrandon will stand up for the rights and freedoms of Northeasterners and ensure our liberties are protected. I encourage all Northeasterners to support the Northeast Region by voting for RowanBrandon.

RowanBrandon for Governor.

I thank Smid for his endorsement and graciously am prepared to accept my party's nomination for position of Governor of the Northeast. I do not take these responsibilities lightly, and will make sure that ALL Northeasterners are heard. I can hear you people of the Northeast, the whole country can hear you, and Atlasia will hear all of us soon!

A few questions directed to Mr. Brandon. Why are you running for the Governorship of the Northeast? What are your opinions of the Northeast Region's inability to produce any legislation for the last two months during our monthly proposition thread, which the Northeast was once famous for? If you are elected Governor, how will you combat this?

Conor: What's your stance on Class A Senators and the Trondheim Amendment?

Official Endorsement

After some discussion, the RPP has decided to endorse Sec. of Awesomeness, CJ of the NE, Fmr. Sen. and Gov. AndrewCT for the NE senate seat and wish him the best of luck.

Remember the "dead red avatars" Sam would constantly complain about before he got kicked into the Supreme Court and obscurity?

I think we have a far greater and opposite reaction. And when I say reaction, I mean it literally.

     What exactly provoked that comment, if I may inquire?

Mr. Brandon, might you please be able to take the time to answer these questions which I asked you more than four days ago? Much appreciated, your Lieutenant Governor, Rockefeller Republican, or presently known as "Jimmy the Flute".

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Sorry for the delay Smid, here's my answers regarding your questions regarding the Trondheim Amendment. To be quite frank with you Mr. Smith, as of yet I am undecided about whether or not I should support the Trondheim Amendment. Whilst on one hand it would revitalise the ever so boring Senate contests held during February, June and October, which would be great for the nation, on the other hand it would be yet another devastating blow for the regions, thus all but removing the meaning of a region in Atlasia.

No worries about the delay.

Thought you were talking to me for a minute. :)

Sorry for the delay.

First, I am running for the Governorship of the Northeast because we need to bring accountability back to Atlasia. People will be now held accountable for their inactivity and inaction. Change is needed for the Northeast, and I am the person to bring about that change. I am embarrased by the inaction of our leaders to present legislation to bring the change needed to the Northeast. Something needs to be done and done fast. I promise I will veto every pork barrel spending bill that comes across my desk. I will bring the reform that is needed. And I promise you, when I get into office, there will be many pieces of legislation that will be presented, because I will be working for the people. I will not be in the pocket of special interest groups. I represent the people of the Northeast and will work my hardest to ensure that the Northeast will get back on track. Inactive senators may be asked to take a back seat, or will be asked to resign their positions. These people were elected to change Atlasia, but Atlasia changed them. Now they must be held accountable.

???

I was annoyed that day.

Endorsement

The RPP loves activity and regional government, for that reason the party has no hesistation in supporting Torie in the Pacific senate race

Yes, WTF???

Firstly I appreciate your comments regarding my questions. However, I would like to point out a few flaws in your statements, particularly those regarding the Northeast, in which you are running for the office of Governor. Firsly, are you trying to suggest that every single Northeast citizen is responsible for the recent inaction plaguing our region at the present? Because, judging from your use of language it seems that very way. I admit under the leadership of Lief as Governor of the Northeast we have not acheived legislative greatness as seen under Governor's MAS and AndrewCT. However, we as citizens of the Northeast will strive for that glory once more, when the next Administration takes office this October. Also, if you are elected this October, how exactly will you improve the activity in the monthly proposition ballots?

Secondly and finally, we do not have Senators which vote upon monthly legislation. In fact every registered Northeast citizen can propose legislation in the monthly proposition ballot, and in the process can vote on the items of legislation that have made it to that particular month's ballot. Only of course after that have the signatures of three Northeast citizens.

     Eh, okay. ;)

Well, there should be Senators which vote upon legislation. I would change it, I would make 2 elected Senators from the Northeast who would report back to the Governor on any proposed legislation. If it passes the initial vote from the Governor, 2 senators, and LT Governor, then it will be presented to the Northeastern people for a full vote. That is what I propose to do, to get the Northeast back on track.

Although I appreciate your comments Mr. Brandon, I'm curious as to why the Northeast should have only two Senators in your proposed Northeast legislative assembly. Surely if such a plan was to be undertaken if you were to be elected Governor this October, the Northeast should have more Senators in our legislative assembly, as we are the most populated region in the entire nation. Thus, I doubt that one Senator per every fourteen constituents would do the proposed Northeast legislative assembly justice.

The RPP endorses Lt. Gov. Rocky in his reelection bid

Rockefeller Republican isn't Lt. Governor of anything.

Wrong again Frenchie treasonist

     WTF? Do you mean that he was lying? :'( :P

LOL, just happened to click on the first page and saw this

Actually, he was appointed by Lief.

He's running for election for the position he already holds and I will be supporting him. Conor, you have my whole hearted support!

Indeed I was, back in September to be precise, or so I think ??? I appreciate the endorsement of the RPP and those of Smid, etc. Thank you very much (in an Elvis Presley tone). I bid all the candidates Good and Good Luck this October!

     It's not a problem. :) I find it funny though that Hashemite said you weren't Lt. Governor.

The appointment wasn't filled with fanfare. It's not surprising he missed it.

     The map through Dabeav.

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     In total, we have 7 members in the Southeast, 4 in the Mideast, 3 in the Northeast, 2 in the Midwest, & 1 in the Pacific. I'd like to take this moment to notice that MasterJedi has logged on for the first time in three weeks. :)

What's that map represent exactly?

States with party members (yellow). Ripoff of my idea.

     Your idea was so great that I had to "borrow" it. :)

What do the different shades mean? Regions?

Yes.

     The map through Generic:

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     In total, we have 7 members in the Southeast, 4 in the Mideast, 4 in the Northeast, 2 in the Midwest, & 1 in the Pacific. The party continues to grow in the Northeast of Atlasia. :)

I want to propose we vote to change the official flag of the Dirty South to something else to signify the rebirth of the region. I was looking through the SoFA today and our flag looked dreadful.

     Should it contain dark khaki as one of its colors? :P

No. Why? I'm thinking more along the lines of the South Carolina flag with the Palmetto tree and the crescent moon.

     I agree. Maybe we should move the regional capital to Charleston.

I'll add those initiatives to the October ballot. I think we need to move the capitol to Charleston as well. Is Memphis our current one? If so, we definitely need to move to the coast.

     Yep, it's Memphis.

Dirty South Flag Act  of 2008

1. Effective immediately following the passage of this law by vote of the region's citizens, the flag of the Dirty South will change from the current uninspiring generic flag to a design consisting on a navy background with the Palmetto tree and crescent moon in the center.


Dirty South Capitol Relocation Act

1. Effective immediately following the passage of this law by the votes of the region's citizens, the capitol city of the Dirty South will be relocated from Memphis, Tennessee to Charleston, South Carolina.


I'll add these for the vote. I think it would be a good move long term for the region and continue to set us apart from the others. Our current image really doesn't match what we're doing here. I want us to be on top of everything.

I support the measure both personally and the party supports them as well.  The convention will occur soon, most likely next week with a location to pick at a later date.  18 members strong and growing.  We also would like to extend an invitation for Gov. Jesus to address our convention to accept our nomination if he so chooses.

At least change it slightly from the flag of SC.

We can discuss that at the convention and make changes. I think the Palmetto tree and crescent moon need to be the centerpiece. The background color is up for debate if we so chose.

Why is regional government stuff being conducted in the RPP thread?

Its not really regional government business, we are discussing where the party stands on regional issues.  We are the major party in the region and care deeply about the Dirty South

Honestly, I just didn't know where else to mention this. I didn't think that it warranted a new thread.

October Endorsement List (just as a friendly reminder):

President
Gov. Jesus (JCP-WA)/Sen. Meeker (RPP-MD)

Senate:
Northeast: AndrewCT (NLC-CT)
Mideast: Meeker (RPP-MD)
Southeast: PiT (RPP-LA)
Midwest: dead0man (RPP-NE)
Pacific: Torie (I-CA)

October Regionals:
Northeast: RowanBrandon (RPP-NJ)/RockefellerRepublican (NLC-ME)
Southeast: Gov. Duke (RPP-SC)/Daniel Adams (RPP-FL)

Historically we've always had initiative proposal threads each month to propose/debate initiatives like those two up there. I'd like a chance to have my say without interrupting your party in here. :)

Please feel free to interrupt this thread at anytime as Xahar made himself at home here a long time ago :)

Haha, alright. If weve got some Dirty South business in here I guess I'll just have to make myself home in here.

But about the proposals above. Personally, I'd prefer not to move the capital to Charleston. In the unfortunate event of a hurricane the regional government would be essentially decapitated. Do agree to a new flag though.

The Hurricane issue has also been on my mind, I truly like Memphis as the capitol. It's been the capitol for quite some time, is a lovely city and it rich in history and culture. Memphis is in the middle of the region and that's where it needs to be in case of natural disaster.

I'd also like to point out that the Southeast has a billion dollar capitol complex (https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Southeast_Capital_Initiative) in Memphis.

Well, I'm a coastal guy myself, so I support moving the capitol to the coast. What does our budget look like, anyway? I just feel like this region has gone from being a joke to one of the most active warrants a change in the capital. Charleston has much more culture and heritage as compared to Memphis, my dear Lt. Governor! ;)


But we can debate it.

Bacon, I can start a new thread if you wish so we can debate this .. that way more members will participate.

Go for it. I'll save my additional comments until the new thread is up.

Yeah, I went ahead and made one before you even responded. That way all our citizens will be able to input their ideas.

For any party members who weren't fully committed to Jesus (if there are any of you anymore), please take note that Moderate has spit on the RPP by appointing staunch federalist, treasonist, and Dirty South deserter Hashemite to represent our great nation to the rest of the world.

Bgwah has my vote now. Hashimite called the government of the Dirty South incompetent, Nazi's, and dictators before leaving the region only to demand reentry during election season. To see him rewarded for that behavior by getting appointed to the President's cabinet makes me question President Moderate's judgement. I don't know if he as unaware or what, but he should've researched this sooner. 

No, he knows.  Read the thread, he just called an idiot for questioning his decision

     I updated the endorsements section of the party's wiki pages.

The RPP strongly opposes the senate's decision to confirm Hashemite

Isn't tonight the beginning of our convention, DWTL? Aren't the elections next week?

Ah, indeed I'll open a thread shortly

Why are we even bothering arguing with Xahar? His record speaks for itself. No need to listen to his cute little explanations for his shortcomings. We have a better party and I think it really is obvious to any reasonable person.

As anyone has been here awhile knows, I ignore no one

Yes. Why these guys chose to engage with him is beyond me. It's the same thing every time with him making up some reason as to why he was a part of everything.

Take away their computers. Give them some golf clubs or a basketball.

     You're officially in charge of implementing that. I expect results, mind you. *leaves*

     :P

Speaking of changing the world, anyone know where the "Search for Lost Gov. KoTBP Act" got buried?  I'd love to pass that

Good to see the SDP is electing Xahar chairman, they just went from irrelveant to a joke party

     We should also draft the "Search for Lost Lt. Gov. SPC Act."

     Most people consider him to be quite annoying.

     Most, not all. You notice that he's lost multiple elections though.

Well, kingofthebenchpress made a comeback for a few days and disappeared again. I am concerned about SPC myself. He just randomly left without warning, and he was part of the original three that brought the Dirty South back to prominence.

Notice how all the people who voted for Xahar, outside of Lief, were O avatars from outside the US? What are the odds they are all Xahar's accounts?

     He ran for Senator of the Pacific in February & lost. He ran for Senator & Governor of the Pacific simultaneously in August & lost both of them. He might have run other times, but I know nothing of them.

0. That is very offensive to me, to Lewis, to Earl, to Xahar and to Al to say that. You only say that because you want to discredit them because thet are opposing you. Duke, usually, you say smarter things than that. You don't need to go at the level of DWDL.

     I doubt it, unless Xahar has been posting on five different accounts, some being active from the time the site was started (at which time he would have been eight or nine years old).

Chill out. It's a joke we say about Xahar because he used another account of his to try to influence the Dirty South's elections. I know Earl and Lewis especially are not Xahar accounts. Sorry if you were offended. 

Lulz.

You're just bitter because you can't defeat even me in an argument.

Oh leave The Party. ;)

     Be careful. She might take you seriously. ;)

I wasn't offended, but that is strange. That was never proven than he used a account to fraud the SE elections.

     Was that directed to me or to Xahar? :P

Well yes it was. Both were posted with the same IP. Xahar claims his friend just logged on on his computer. We have no way of "proving" it. It's his word against ours. Considering that account only logged on in the past month to vote in the elections, I'm willing to bet Xahar just logged on and voted.

     Actually, C&M also logged on to register for a game on the Election & History Games board. Just letting you know so Xahar doesn't use it against you.

He has a +8 E score.


C&M has a Bellarmine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bellarmine_College_Preparatory) e-mail address. I have on several occasions mentioned that I attend Lynbrook (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynbrook_High_School).

But I digress. Brandon knows the truth. He has the most sense of all of you. You should listen to him more often.


Yeah, City Hall is by far the part of this forum he likes the most.

Anyway, PiT, you still have time. It's not too late for the salvation.

     I also know her in real life. I know how to talk to her better than you do.


     I haven't had the time to discuss the salvation with DWTL yet. :(

No kidding.


Ah. Well, get it done.

I have a vote in a thread ''Of the four preceeding Atlasians, pick the ticket that would receive your vote'' of January against Xahar.

What's happened in Atlasian/Dirty Southern politics since I've been on hiatus?

He's back! :D

Welcome back.

     Lots. Andy Jackson beat you, & now Daniel Adams is running against him in his bid for re-election. I'm running for Senator against Bacon King. Bgwah & Afleitch are running for president. The party now has 18 members in total. There's probably other stuff that I'm forgetting. :P

It was quite ironic, since my own vote would have tied the election. :P Do we have our own presidential candidate? If not, then I suggest a mass NOTA protest vote.

     Meeker is running on the ticket with Bgwah. Meeker joined the party soon after we stopped threatening to secede. :P Also, you ought to re-register under our new name (the Regional Protection Party) so Earl's registry is more accurate. Not that he has updated it in a while. :P

I actually made a suggestion that we run our own candidate, but the chairman of the party made the argument that we partner with bgwah and meeker this time and explore our own candidate next time. I was leaning towards pushing for someone to run on our ticket this time with Moderate not running. But we pledge to support bgwah/meeker a while back, and felt like it would look bad to backout now.

     I sent notices to all of the party members about the elections. In the process, I came across a terrifying fact concerning PMs. If you send a PM to 10 people, it's counted as sending 10 PMs. This caused me to hit the 20 PMs per hour limit. :( Now I know better for the future.

We may be the only people to have ever legitimately hit that limit.

     At least the warning doesn't reset the timer, unlike the posting within 20 seconds one. If it did, there would be a hole in my wall in the shape of a human fist.

I hate that the 20 seconds one does that.

     I do too, though it's rather bearable since it's only 20 seconds.

Perhaps we should have an email list or something, to avoid that in the future?

     I'll just space the PMs out more in the future. It's not the end of the world if some folks get their notices a couple of hours after I start sending them out.

Send it to the regional chairman and ask them to send it to the members in their region.

     Good idea. I'll be sure to do that in the future.

Our plans for the December election will be announced shortly after these elections

Ah. I think I have a pretty good idea of what's going on.

With Decemeber? 

Hint: We won't be endorsing you again

Yup. But that's not what I had in mind, actually. Besides, I'll be holding another office at that point.


He decided he liked me in August (just as he had last December). It wasn't an endorsement per se, but almost all members gave me a second preference.

     How was it not an endorsement per se?

He was better than most other options, plus I was unaware of his puppet account that tried to sabotage Duke and he wasn't such a know-it-all smart alec

I lost respect because I won't own up to having a sock puppet account.  If he said, "yea, C&M is me" that's a different story.  I'm sure we'll see C&M popping up to vote for BaconKing and Andy Jackson within the next week

I can't recall seeing him since the election, so perhaps not.

Xahar has not reason to post as C&M except during election time

It's mostly because of the quietness of City Hall. Anyway, I'll be seeing C&M in about an hour.


Ah, but it wouldn't be any fun then, would it?

I'm 80% sure I will. :)

That would be a good bet

His dream job apparently is SoEA, no way Pres. Jesus is giving to give him that spot or any other in the cabinet.  The SDP is not large enough to hold two at-large senate seats, so unless he tries to strong arm Al out (which wouldn't be bad really), he's not going to the senate.  And if he thinks he can win a regional Pacific seat w/Jesus in the White House, he's dreaming

     I have a strong suspicion that at some point in the near future, we'll be happy to have Ronnie out there in the Pacific. :-\

     Haven't you noticed that a large proportion of Pacifickers are inactive, generally speaking?

Pacificans, dammit.

     How about Pacificonianites (cookie for whoever gets the reference)?

     Nice one! ;) Do you know what it is a reference to, though?

Hmm?

     I guess he's referring to you becoming Governor or Lt. Governor after Bgwah takes office. Also, I find it funny that it's been almost two pages since someone with the avatar of a Southern state posted.

I don't. You're (almost) all carpetbaggers.

     The Southeastern RPP is (barely) majority Southern. Interestingly, outside of the Southeast, we only have two carpetbaggers. Meeker (who has been in the Mideast for awhile it would seem) & Smid (out of necessity since Australia is not a part of Atlasia).

Get to the polls, no lead is safe and the travesty of BaconKing being re-elected is too much to handle

Do I need to vote absentee or can I wait and vote later?

Technically, Absentee voting is suppose to be only for people who will not be able to vote during the regular time, but it has turned into early voting. You can vote now or during the regular election times.

That's what I thought. When are the regional election supposed to begin? October is just about over.

This weekend.

6-2 PiT, Jesus has a commanding lead

Nice job folks, but its not over yet

Does The Party have anything to say about last night's events?

We still need to turnout voters for me in the Mideast.

You haven't come to the realization yet that the Dear Leader doesn't support you, have you?

I have no idea what you are talking about

I already stated that I support Ben, I came to the realization that it was best for the party to have someone to support regional rights for sure.

HappyWarrior?


Do I have to do it (http://brandonhendricks.com/atlasforum/index.php) again? Don't play retarded.

That sure does sound like DWDL supporting me.

The Regional Protection Party will be alloted is time and funds this week to Benconstine's run-off election in the Mideast

I have joined the party registered in Arkansas.

Welcome, that also makes a citizen of the Dirty South, the most thriving region of the country.  Our governor is AHDuke, our Lt. Gov. is Andy Jackson (although he is currently losing his re-election bid to Daniel Adams).  The regional senator is BaconKing, however, he was just voted out in favor of PiT who will take office on November 7th.  Any other questions feel free to ask or PM

Thanks, I am glad to be Resident here.

Yes, I plan on running for Senate when I am eligible, when will that time be?

I would've registered earlier, but I had some family issues to deal with.

The next senate elections will be held in December for national at-large seats.  The RPP will be holding a convention at a later date to discuss nominees for these seats.  I must inform that it would be quite tough to win as a newbie without party backing in one of these contests.  Regional senate elections will be held in February, but that seat is pretty much PiT's until he no longer wants it.  If you are eager for running for office, you may want to consider another region as there is a backlog of people in the Southeast holding positions.  However, we would certainly welcome you to stay as a citizen of our region at least until you get your feet wet, most people don't get elected to anything for at least a few months.

I see, is there a State Senate or something I can start at?

Not in the Southeast, the Mideast has an assembly not sure when elections are though. 

Ah well, I'll endorse and vote (even campaign) for another candidate next Senate Elections, so I can gain experience and maybe follow in their footsteps.

     Through Bob Dole:

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     In total, we have 8 members in the Southeast, 4 in the Mideast, 4 in the Northeast, 2 in the Midwest, & 1 in the Pacific.  Every state in the Southeast has a citizen again. :D

That is good.

I believe in protecting The Southeast, a region which I dearly love (born and raised in Georgia but moved to Arkansas due to military reasons), which is why I joined your party.

4 people in the Mideast, hopefully we get them all out for Constine.  This is going to be a tough battle, I'd certainly feel more confident in it being held in the Dirty South.  While certainly not a hostile region for RPPers, its not the most friendly either.

Yes, thankfully we are very strong In Dirty South.

Just a quick question, how many members do we have versus the SD party?

Ok that is good.

The RPP endorses GMantis for SDP chair hoping that the party can regain its status as a credible party

This is the first time I see a party endorsing a candidate in another separate party's internal election.

Its necessary in the parties opinion that we are able to keep open and honest lines of communication with all parties.  We also want the integrity of the game upheld.  That is why this was necessary.

The SDP endorses the closing RRP private forum.

The RPP should keep its nose out of the internal affairs of another political party.

Yeah because your chairman has done a great job of that ::)

Completely irrelevent.

Good for the goose and all that.

Hmm?

     I don't know what he means either. :P

I shortened the idium "What's good for the goose is good for the gander" (which you probably got, but just in case...) and what I meant by that was that it's kind of hypocritical to bash somebody not of your party for doing the exact same thing a member of your own party has been doing.  Everybody should keep their dogs in their own backyard.

Isn't the point of a party endorsement to sway members of your  party in their vote?

In that case, what good is one party's endorsement in another party's election?

I'm saying you're both wrong.  We have no business in your party's internal affairs and you have no business in ours.

I'm not trying to make any endorsements here.

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I was waiting for Picard.

The Regional Protection Party reminds voters to get out to the polls for Benconstine

Statement on Dirty South Elections

The Regional Protection Party would like to congradulate Gov. Duke on his re-election and Daniel Adams on his election to Lt. Gov.  We also would like to extend Andy Jackson well wishes to continue to help with the Dirty South.

We are also pleased that all but of the initiatives passed, and that we call officially call the region the Dirty South now on official statements

I would like to thank this well wishes by the RPP and I offer a outstretched hand to the newly elected Lt. Governor Daniel Adams and offer my gratitude and any help that I may offer as now a former Lt. Governor and as a citizen of this great region.

What is the opinion of the RPP concerning the recent events that shooked Atlasia?

I urge all RPP members to follow the example set by party leaders and spoil your ballots ASAP

I thank the RRP members to prepare the removal of their voting rights.

Wow, so I'm pretty sure that's illegal.

1.) We did nothing illegal, its been done plenty of times before
2.) Even if there was a case, the AG is inept at best

Records must be kept.

Yeah, but he hates us with a passion.

Doesn't matter, he would still to prove a case that doesn't exist to the SC

Constine spoil your vote already

Records must be kept.

There's no secret here, nothing illegal is being done.  Just proves that even in small numbers we can occasionally get something done

I dimly recall that legislation was passed making it illegal to incite people to spoilt their ballots. Maybe that was just in the Mideast region.

Records must be kept, in any event.

Possibly, but not nationally I checked before doing this just in case.  If you want to introduce, I'll vote for it, but for now I'll do what I can legally to help out the JCP

Records must be kept.