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Title: what percentage of Florida's Hispanics are Cuban?
Post by: © tweed on September 23, 2008, 01:23:21 PM
what percentage of Florida's Hispanics are Cuban?


Title: Re: what percentage of Florida's Hispanics are Cuban?
Post by: Tender Branson on September 23, 2008, 01:33:38 PM
1/3

http://www.census.gov/population/www/cen2000/briefs/phc-t10/tables/tab01-12.pdf


Title: Re: what percentage of Florida's Hispanics are Cuban?
Post by: Tender Branson on September 23, 2008, 01:42:02 PM
According to the newer American Community Survey 2007 numbers, which were released today, Cubans make up 30% of FL Hispanics.

http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/ADPTable?_bm=y&-geo_id=04000US12&-qr_name=ACS_2007_1YR_G00_DP5&-context=adp&-ds_name=&-tree_id=307&-_lang=en&-redoLog=false&-format=


Title: Re: what percentage of Florida's Hispanics are Cuban?
Post by: © tweed on September 23, 2008, 02:25:09 PM
what percentage of voters is that?  (I'd assume they vote in higher proportion than other Hispanic nationalities due to hating Fidel and all, but that could be fatally flawed logic)


Title: Re: what percentage of Florida's Hispanics are Cuban?
Post by: Tender Branson on September 23, 2008, 02:34:54 PM
what percentage of voters is that?  (I'd assume they vote in higher proportion than other Hispanic nationalities due to hating Fidel and all, but that could be fatally flawed logic)

They make up about 6% of FL's population, but because many of them are not citizens or very young, their share in the electorate on Nov. 4 will probably be about 4-5%.


Title: Re: what percentage of Florida's Hispanics are Cuban?
Post by: ?????????? on September 24, 2008, 02:17:46 AM
They all must reside in Miami then, or at least a great majority. The great majority of Hispanics here are Mexicans, of course.


Title: Re: what percentage of Florida's Hispanics are Cuban?
Post by: phk on September 24, 2008, 02:20:30 AM
This thread has made me miss Miami and the Cubans that I grew up with.


Title: Re: what percentage of Florida's Hispanics are Cuban?
Post by: minionofmidas on September 24, 2008, 01:28:44 PM
what percentage of voters is that?  (I'd assume they vote in higher proportion than other Hispanic nationalities due to hating Fidel and all, but that could be fatally flawed logic)

They make up about 6% of FL's population, but because many of them are not citizens or very young, their share in the electorate on Nov. 4 will probably be about 4-5%.
They have special citizenship laws that make it very easy to get citizenship. Certainly cast far more than 30% of Florida's hispanic vote. Loads'n'loads of South Americans in South Florida, too.


Title: Re: what percentage of Florida's Hispanics are Cuban?
Post by: Brittain33 on September 26, 2008, 01:12:08 PM
They make up about 6% of FL's population, but because many of them are not citizens or very young, their share in the electorate on Nov. 4 will probably be about 4-5%.
They have special citizenship laws that make it very easy to get citizenship. Certainly cast far more than 30% of Florida's hispanic vote. Loads'n'loads of South Americans in South Florida, too.
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How does the increasing share of Puerto Ricans in Florida's Hispanic population dilute this effect?


Title: Re: what percentage of Florida's Hispanics are Cuban?
Post by: minionofmidas on September 26, 2008, 03:31:11 PM
Okay... I've done some wrangling with Census Bureau statistics... the effect hardly ever existed in the first place. Lots of other interesting findings though. :)

In 2000, the US was 12.5% Hispanic, Florida 16.8%, Dade 57.3%, Florida minus Dade 10.1%
By 2007, these figures are 15.1%, 20.6%, 62.0% and 14.4%.

Mexicans were
in the US: 60.4% of all Hispanics in 1990, 58.5% in 2000, 64.2% in 2007.
in Florida: 10.3% / 13.6% / 15.8%
in Dade: 2.4% / 2.9% / 3.1%
in Florida outside Dade: 22.3% / 23.4% / 24.0%

Puertoricans were
in the US: 12.2% / 9.6% / 9.1%
in Florida: 15.7% / 18.0% / 19.3%
in Dade: 7.6% / 6.2% / 6.4%
in Florida outside Dade: 28.1% / 28.9% / 27.7%

Cubans were:
in the US: 4.7% / 3.5% / 3.5%
in Florida: 42.8% / 31.1% / 29.5%
in Dade: 59.2% / 50.4% / 53.7%
in Florida outside Dade: 17.7% / 13.1% / 13.7%

Detailed breakdown for other groups doesn't exist for 1990, and I didn't delve too deeply for 2007, but

Dominicans were
in the US: 2.2% in 2000 and 2.7% in 2007.
in Florida: 2.6% / 3.8%
in Dade: 2.8% / 3.3%
outside Dade: 2.5% / 4.1%

Central Americans were
in the US: 4.8% / 7.8%
in Florida: 7.6% / 10.4%
in Dade: 10.0% / 13.6% 
outside Dade: 5.3% / 8.2%

While USwide, much the largest Central American group is Salvadorians, in Florida it's Nicaraguans - they made up 5.4% of Dade's Hispanics in 2000, and the US Nicaraguan population is almost as Dade-concentrated as the Cuban (see below).

South Americans were
in the US: 3.8% / 5.5%
in Florida: 11.2% / 15.5%
in Dade: 11.9% / 15.7%
outside Dade: 10.6% / 15.4%

The remainder is mostly people who didn't state or gave uncodeable answers. For some reason that category is much larger on the Census (17.3% nationwide, slightly lower in Cuba) than in the American Community Service (7.2% nationwide, again slightly lower in Cuba).

Almost half of Florida's South American population is Colombian - the largest group elsewhere too, though less than a third of all South Americans in the northwestern 49. Peruvians and Venezuelans also figure. USwide Ecuadorians do as well, but there are few of these in Florida.

Seen from another side (2000 data)
Florida has 7.6% of all Hispanics, 1.8% of Mexicans, 14.2% of Puertoricans, 67.1% of Cubans, 10.0% of all others including 44.8% of Nicaraguans and 22.3% of South Americans.
Dade alone has 3.7% of all Hispanics, 2.4% of Puertoricans, a whopping 52.4% of Cubans, and 5.2% of all others including 39.0% of Nicaraguans.

Citizenship data: This is from the sample part of the 2000 Census.

USwide, 40.2% of the Hispanic population is foreign born (plus 3.9% PRborn) and 29.0% are noncitizen.
In Florida, 55.4% (9.4%) 31.9%
in Dade, 71.4% (3.7%) 38.1%

Among Mexicans in the US, 41.5% are foreign born and 32.3% noncitizen.
Among Puertoricans, 38.1% born on PR. In Florida it's 50.0% though. Noncitizen figure is obviously negligible.
Among Cubans in the US, 68.5% are foreign born and 27.1% noncitizen.
Among Cubans in Dade, 79.3% are foreign born and 33.0% noncitizen.
Outside Dade (USwide), just 56.5% and 20.5% (Florida outside Dade is much closer to that figure than the Dade ones, with 24.4% noncitizen.)
Among the All Others, 47.3% foreign born, 32.1% noncitizen USwide. In Florida, 66.2%/43.8%, however (different proportions of South or Central Americans versus DNS to blame here.)

So... Cubans are 31.1% of Florida's Hispanics. Their noncitizenship rate is also 31.1%, while the overall Hispanic noncitizenship rate in Florida is 31.9% and the Cuban percentage among citizen Hispanics in Florida is also 31.9%.

Of course, there's a big difference between being a citizen and actually voting, but...