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Election Archive => 2004 U.S. Presidential Election => Topic started by: © tweed on September 13, 2004, 02:11:02 PM



Title: Bush approval rating: January 2009
Post by: © tweed on September 13, 2004, 02:11:02 PM
Kerry will lose rather than Bush winning.  Bush will be around the 48% mark on election day and win by 3-5%.

What will he be at at the conclusion of his second term?


Title: Re:Bush approval rating: January 2009
Post by: MODU on September 13, 2004, 02:15:24 PM

Took me a moment to figure out what you were asking for.  :)

As far as on the day he turns over control, I would say he'd be between 50-55%.  The economy will still be recovering, most of our troops will be out of Iraq, and both Afghanistand and Iraq will have had their first free elections.  Depending on technology, we might see more fuel cell or advanced diesel vehicles on the road, decreasing our dependence on middle eastern oil.  And, if we are lucky, there won't be another attack on our soil.


Title: Re:Bush approval rating: January 2009
Post by: A18 on September 13, 2004, 02:25:38 PM
The economy will boom like mad in 2005, 2006, especially if Bush gets reelected.

A simplified tax code, privatized SS/medicare, and tort reform are all popular ideas.

So if he's successful, 56-61%. :)


Title: Re:Bush approval rating: January 2009
Post by: Inmate Trump on September 14, 2004, 12:20:11 PM
If he's reelected, I'd say he'll end his presidency with an approval ratings in the mid 50s.

If Kerry's elected, by the end of his first term, I think his approval ratings will be in the low 40s.


Title: Re:Bush approval rating: January 2009
Post by: Freedom on September 14, 2004, 12:32:32 PM
If he wins, lower-to-mid 50s


Title: Re:Bush approval rating: January 2009
Post by: MODU on September 14, 2004, 12:37:11 PM

Remember, Reagan's and Clinton's exiting approval ratings weren't very high either.  I think we all are in the same ballpark . . . somewhere in the 50s%.  Now, down the road after the 44th President has been sworn in, and depending how the Middle East develops, Bush's rating could go in either direction, but most likely up.


Title: Re:Bush approval rating: January 2009
Post by: Freedom on September 14, 2004, 12:39:41 PM
hopefully Iraq stays a US ally. what are the chances of a pro-US government getting elected though?


Title: Re:Bush approval rating: January 2009
Post by: Democratic Hawk on September 14, 2004, 12:48:17 PM
Kerry hasn't lost it yet! The battleground remains tight and may well remain so until 11/2.

Bush may win the popular vote by c.4% winning many states by huge majorities, while Kerry may win some big swing states by bare pluralities as well as holding the more marginally Democratic states such as Minnesota, Wisconsin , Iowa,  Oregon and New Mexico.

Dave


Title: Re:Bush approval rating: January 2009
Post by: MODU on September 14, 2004, 01:05:16 PM
hopefully Iraq stays a US ally. what are the chances of a pro-US government getting elected though?

Well, if the foundation is laid correctly, we don't really need a pro-US government, but one which is anti-dictatorship.  As long as their constitution allows for established election periods (like ours), then we know that every few years the ruling parties will change.  This is the flaw in some of the other pro-Western societies that seem to decide to hold elections "on demand."  Puts more power in the hands of the people, and that leads towards a more free society, which is harder for terrorists to find safe harbor.


Title: Re:Bush approval rating: January 2009
Post by: HennessyXO on September 14, 2004, 11:38:30 PM
By then the world would of end because the Chimp would of started World War 3.


Title: Re:Bush approval rating: January 2009
Post by: The Duke on September 15, 2004, 12:02:53 AM
39%


Title: Re:Bush approval rating: January 2009
Post by: M on September 15, 2004, 12:22:30 AM
This is hard to predict because the Iran crisis will come to head in the next term, something very big and potentially positive could happen in the Israeli-Arab conflict, and there may be some sort of splash in Korea (anywhere from total collapse of the regime to Second Korean War). These three events will likely all register in the public conscious somewhere, depending on the "how" of it all. To a slightly lesser extent, Kashmir, Cuba, Saudi Arabia, and/or Colombia could make big news, good or bad.

If most of these crises either do not occur or have a positive and painless result, 55-60 is about right. If a major war or other "big doo-doo" thing happens, 10-90%, with a five pt MOE.


Title: Re:Bush approval rating: January 2009
Post by: Angel of Death on September 15, 2004, 09:04:56 AM
Whoever becomes president will probably become the most hated person alive as oil prices will go through the roof.


Title: Re:Bush approval rating: January 2009
Post by: King on September 15, 2004, 05:59:59 PM
By then the world would of end because the Chimp would of started World War 3.

Stop calling him the chimp, bitch. ;)


Title: Re:Bush approval rating: January 2009
Post by: Dr. Cynic on September 15, 2004, 06:03:39 PM
If Bush is re elected, He'll end with a rating of high 40's or low fifties.


Title: Re:Bush approval rating: January 2009
Post by: Light Touch on September 16, 2004, 01:07:49 PM
75%.

I'm not kidding.


Title: Re:Bush approval rating: January 2009
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on September 16, 2004, 01:28:17 PM
Kerry is up 1 point with likely voters in the Harris poll, and you guys are making it sound like he's already lost?


Title: Re:Bush approval rating: January 2009
Post by: A18 on September 16, 2004, 01:34:06 PM
Yeah. And down 6-8 points in every other poll.


Title: Re:Bush approval rating: January 2009
Post by: 12th Doctor on May 18, 2006, 02:14:29 AM

So far, this one appears to be the most realistic.


Title: Re: Bush approval rating: January 2009
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on May 18, 2006, 02:34:57 AM
20% seems like a reasonable estimate. Some people on some other board thought that was way too high, but I'm sticking with it.


Title: Re: Bush approval rating: January 2009
Post by: Nym90 on May 18, 2006, 06:54:07 PM
Whoever becomes president will probably become the most hated person alive as oil prices will go through the roof.

This was a pretty good prediction, too.


Title: Re:Bush approval rating: January 2009
Post by: Gabu on May 18, 2006, 07:01:14 PM

rofl


Title: Re: Bush approval rating: January 2009
Post by: Nym90 on May 18, 2006, 09:42:11 PM

Maybe he thought the question said disapproval rating. :)


Title: Re:Bush approval rating: January 2009
Post by: MasterJedi on May 19, 2006, 09:01:03 AM

I agree, this will be about it.


Title: Re: Bush approval rating: January 2009
Post by: George W. Hobbes on May 20, 2006, 02:03:56 AM
Disagree.  Once the President bombs Iran's nuclear facilities, we'll see him back in the 50's.

I say 52% on January 20, 2009.


Title: Re: Bush approval rating: January 2009
Post by: Alcon on May 20, 2006, 02:10:00 AM
Disagree.  Once the President bombs Iran's nuclear facilities, we'll see him back in the 50's.

I say 52% on January 20, 2009.

Yeah, just after China buys us.


Title: Re: Bush approval rating: January 2009
Post by: George W. Hobbes on May 20, 2006, 02:37:27 AM
Psh.  Disbelievers. :-P


Title: Re: Bush approval rating: January 2009
Post by: minionofmidas on May 21, 2006, 06:39:49 AM
Disagree.  Once the President bombs Iran's nuclear facilities, we'll see him back in the 50's.
50% of the two survivors = he's the only one to approve; Laura's lost confidence? ;)


Title: Re: Bush approval rating: January 2009
Post by: Soaring Eagle on May 21, 2006, 07:55:52 AM
20%, maybe lower. I just can't see Bush doing anything competent in the next two years.


Title: Re: Bush approval rating: January 2009
Post by: True Democrat on May 21, 2006, 11:47:41 AM
January 2009?  Lame ducks always recover at the last minute.  George H.W. Bush's approval got back over 50% after he lost the election.


Title: Re: Bush approval rating: January 2009
Post by: Reignman on June 01, 2006, 05:45:39 PM
http://www.hist.umn.edu/~ruggles/Approval_files/Approval_27267_image001.gif

Since I don't think that can keep going down forever, I'm going to guess 30%, but maybe a "lame duck" boost after the 2008 election like True Democrat suggests.


Title: Re:Bush approval rating: January 2009
Post by: © tweed on September 25, 2006, 03:26:20 PM
A simplified tax code, privatized SS/medicare, and tort reform are all popular ideas.

lol. 


Title: Re:Bush approval rating: January 2009
Post by: H. Ross Peron on June 24, 2014, 04:38:27 AM
The economy will boom like mad in 2005, 2006, especially if Bush gets reelected.

A simplified tax code, privatized SS/medicare, and tort reform are all popular ideas.

So if he's successful, 56-61%. :)

This is hilarious.


Title: Re: Bush approval rating: January 2009
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on June 27, 2014, 01:46:33 AM
20% seems like a reasonable estimate. Some people on some other board thought that was way too high, but I'm sticking with it.

22%, LOL.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bushs-final-approval-rating-22-percent/


Title: Re: Bush approval rating: January 2009
Post by: Bozo the Clown on June 29, 2014, 04:29:56 AM
20% seems like a reasonable estimate. Some people on some other board thought that was way too high, but I'm sticking with it.

22%, LOL.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bushs-final-approval-rating-22-percent/

A president's success can't be measured by where things are at the day he leaves office. Legacy is more important which nowadays places him around 41%.


Title: Re:Bush approval rating: January 2009
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on July 01, 2014, 06:20:16 AM
The economy will boom like mad in 2005, 2006, especially if Bush gets reelected.

A simplified tax code, privatized SS/medicare, and tort reform are all popular ideas.

So if he's successful, 56-61%. :)

This is hilarious.

Great president or the greatest president?


Title: Re: Bush approval rating: January 2009
Post by: Frozen Sky Ever Why on July 02, 2014, 04:59:21 PM
Was privatized SS ever popular? I believe it's one of the things that destroyed Goldwater in 64.


Title: Re:Bush approval rating: January 2009
Post by: Person Man on July 25, 2014, 11:08:55 PM
Whoever becomes president will probably become the most hated person alive as oil prices will go through the roof.


mmmm hmmm....


Title: Re:Bush approval rating: January 2009
Post by: Jerseyrules on February 23, 2015, 12:20:56 AM

Pretty great, all things considered


Title: Re:Bush approval rating: January 2009
Post by: Sumner 1868 on February 24, 2015, 01:01:02 PM
I hope this is sardonic.