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Election Archive => 2008 U.S. Presidential Election Campaign => Topic started by: pepper11 on October 08, 2008, 08:25:44 PM



Title: Why is he going to IOWA AGAIN!!!!!???
Post by: pepper11 on October 08, 2008, 08:25:44 PM
Could someone please tell me why McCain is going to Iowa again next week.  Davenport this time.  Whatever adviser is making these decisions is seriously committing political malpractice. 


Title: Re: Why is he going to IOWA AGAIN!!!!!???
Post by: cinyc on October 08, 2008, 08:33:53 PM
Could someone please tell me why McCain is going to Iowa again next week.  Davenport this time.  Whatever adviser is making these decisions is seriously committing political malpractice. 

Perhaps McCain's internal polling is telling him something we don't know.  It doesn't make much sense.


Title: Re: Why is he going to IOWA AGAIN!!!!!???
Post by: Ebowed on October 08, 2008, 08:37:00 PM
Denial.


Title: Re: Why is he going to IOWA AGAIN!!!!!???
Post by: CARLHAYDEN on October 08, 2008, 10:16:13 PM
Does anyone really believe that McCain is rational?!?


Title: Re: Why is he going to IOWA AGAIN!!!!!???
Post by: Stranger in a strange land on October 08, 2008, 10:21:19 PM
Could someone please tell me why McCain is going to Iowa again next week.  Davenport this time.  Whatever adviser is making these decisions is seriously committing political malpractice. 

Perhaps McCain's internal polling is telling him something we don't know.  It doesn't make much sense.

maybe it's telling them that ethanol will suddenly stop being an issue sometime before November 4?


Title: Re: Why is he going to IOWA AGAIN!!!!!???
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on October 08, 2008, 10:29:18 PM
Maybe he's trying to establish an organization he can use for the 2012 caucuses?


Title: Re: Why is he going to IOWA AGAIN!!!!!???
Post by: Mr. Morden on October 08, 2008, 10:44:43 PM
He must be asking for Huckabee, Romney, and Thompson to be retroactively disqualified from the caucuses, so he can be declared the winner, and get a bigger momentum boost going into the fall campaign.



Title: Re: Why is he going to IOWA AGAIN!!!!!???
Post by: Lunar on October 09, 2008, 04:11:39 AM
Perhaps think of it this way: He's trying to make the stake look more competitive than it is to give him a boost.  Secondly, Iowa's a bit different demographically than the other swing states, so depending on McCain's message, he might guess that perhaps "Obama isn't American enough" might play better in the heartland than in Denver suburbs.. for example.  So perhaps he's trying to give himself another out in case he can gain traction in certain demographics.

But with ethanol subsidies and Obama's insane field oganization (built up over the course of two years to mine every vote out of every high school, neighborhood, and so on), and McCain's lack of organizational depth in the state... it's a puzzler.  Why he can't just run a few cheap ads to look competitive is beyond me...campaign time is a serious indicator usually at this point in the race.


Title: Re: Why is he going to IOWA AGAIN!!!!!???
Post by: Rowan on October 09, 2008, 08:18:58 PM
There aren't any black people in IA, he still has a shot.


Title: Re: Why is he going to IOWA AGAIN!!!!!???
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on October 09, 2008, 11:10:12 PM

Whichc probably helps Obama.


Figures you would ignore all polls and logic.


Title: Re: Why is he going to IOWA AGAIN!!!!!???
Post by: Punditty on October 10, 2008, 01:08:16 AM
Maybe he thinks it will play in Wisconsin, too? He already said he would hate to live in Milwaukee, so maybe he's looking to move to Iowa sometime down the road? Or at least own two or three houses there.


Title: Re: Why is he going to IOWA AGAIN!!!!!???
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on October 10, 2008, 01:10:07 AM
Maybe he thinks it will play in Wisconsin, too?

It won't.


Title: Re: Why is he going to IOWA AGAIN!!!!!???
Post by: J. J. on October 11, 2008, 04:06:12 PM
Okay we have:

1.  McCain going to Iowa, a state that he should lose badly.

2.  Obama in PA, a state which the polling shows that he's winning handily.

3.  Obama spending, but not reporting his fund raising.

Somebody want to tell me what the hell is going on?


Title: Re: Why is he going to IOWA AGAIN!!!!!???
Post by: perdedor on October 15, 2008, 05:09:01 PM
Maybe he's trying to establish an organization he can use for the 2012 caucuses?

I highly doubt it. McCain will be 76 in 2012 and by that point, one of the biggest electoral embarrassments to the GOP in recent history. He would have to be medically insane to consider another run. Which, now that I think about it, could be a possibility.


Title: Re: Why is he going to IOWA AGAIN!!!!!???
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on October 17, 2008, 02:00:03 AM
     McCain is officially off his rocker (even more so than he was before).


Title: Re: Why is he going to IOWA AGAIN!!!!!???
Post by: The Ex-Factor on October 23, 2008, 11:32:11 AM
Hahaha McCain/Palin are going to Iowa AGAIN.

http://www.qctimes.com/articles/2008/10/22/news/nation_world/doc48ff437bbc732189045205.txt?sPos=3

So let me get this straight. Instead of trying to hold Virginia, Colorado, Nevada, North Carolina, Missouri, Indiana, or any of those, well, close battleground states they're going to Iowa again? ???


Title: Re: Why is he going to IOWA AGAIN!!!!!???
Post by: Stranger in a strange land on October 23, 2008, 04:13:03 PM
It's simple really: McCain is King Lear, wandering the countryside shouting gibberish and lamenting the horrible decisions he made that got him into this position. Palin is Tamora from Titus Andronicus, determined to do whatever it takes to bring her enemies down with her.


Title: Re: Why is he going to IOWA AGAIN!!!!!???
Post by: angus on October 23, 2008, 06:30:36 PM
Could someone please tell me why McCain is going to Iowa again next week.  Davenport this time.  Whatever adviser is making these decisions is seriously committing political malpractice. 

Again?!  The bastard never showed up here prior to January 3.  Back when it counted.  I couldn't swing a dead cat without hitting Hillary Clinton, Mitt Romney, John Edwards, John Obama, Ron Paul, Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, and every other candidate for President.  But McCain was apparently too busy to come to Iowa and meet each and every resident of the state, the way a proper candidate should.  Fhttp://uck him,  And fu()ck the party that nominated him.  Let him go back to New Hampshire where they love him.  And call him maverick.  Or stud.  Or goat.  Or camel.  Or whatever the ungulate metaphor of the week is.

Ah, Davenport is in the "quad cities" anyway.  It's a two-state media market, including Davenport & Bettendorf, IA, and Moline & Rock Island, IL.  It's not as though he's deep in the "land between the rivers."  That'd be Desmoines or Ottumwa.  Going to Davenport might be like going to Philly if you want to reach southern New Jerseyans.  So the question becomes, "why is he campaigning in Western Illinois?"


Title: Re: Why is he going to IOWA AGAIN!!!!!???
Post by: J. J. on October 23, 2008, 06:58:03 PM
 

 So the question becomes, "why is he campaigning in Western Illinois?"

That was my next question.  :)


Title: Re: Why is he going to IOWA AGAIN!!!!!???
Post by: angus on October 24, 2008, 10:43:22 AM
 

 So the question becomes, "why is he campaigning in Western Illinois?"

That was my next question.  :)

Lest the humor go undetected, that was a shot at Iowa--or at Iowans--mostly.  It occurred to me that it might have been misinterpreted as a cheap shot at McCain.  But, yeah, it was also a shot at the two major political parties.  And, of course, at McCain.  But McCain's too easy, and I never miss an opportunity to impugn him.  Mostly I was making fun of Iowans.  And, perhaps, of caucuses, of the primary system (that produce the likes of Al Gore, George Bush, and John McCain), of the parties that control the system, and of the people that allow it all to happen.

:)


Title: Re: Why is he going to IOWA AGAIN!!!!!???
Post by: J. J. on October 24, 2008, 11:30:12 AM
Why Obama is in PA and why McCain was in IA are two of the mysteries that I hope will be solved on election day.

The answer, to either, might be, "Because he's ' nuts."


Title: Re: Why is he going to IOWA AGAIN!!!!!???
Post by: J. J. on October 25, 2008, 07:39:21 AM
Palin is back in Iowa?  ???


Title: Re: Why is he going to IOWA AGAIN!!!!!???
Post by: J. J. on October 25, 2008, 09:01:53 AM
Obama and McCain in NM?  ???