Title: WA: Survey USA: Gregoire +1 Post by: © tweed on October 14, 2008, 10:04:11 PM New Poll: Washington Governor by Survey USA on 2008-10-13 (https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/GOVERNOR/2008/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=5320081013019)
Summary: D: 48%, R: 47%, U: 5% Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=40846e1b-3762-460f-90d0-b750d26c5bcc) Title: Re: WA: Survey USA: Gregoire +1 Post by: CultureKing on October 14, 2008, 10:14:59 PM Ugh... I just don't understand how she is doing so badly in the polls. She has been a better governor than at least Locke and he had a good amount of support. Is it just sympathy for Rossi left over from 2004??
Title: Re: WA: Survey USA: Gregoire +1 Post by: HardRCafé on October 14, 2008, 10:16:52 PM She has been a better governor than at least Locke and he had a good amount of support. You appear to be alone in this perspective. Title: Re: WA: Survey USA: Gregoire +1 Post by: Ronnie on October 14, 2008, 10:26:27 PM If this isn't defying political gravity, I don't know what is. I just don't understand why Rossi isn't down by 10% at this point...
Title: Re: WA: Survey USA: Gregoire +1 Post by: MarkWarner08 on October 14, 2008, 10:28:12 PM Just 1% of Republicans are undecided. I guess we can call that 1% the Terri Schiavo voting bloc :P
If this isn't defying political gravity, I don't know what is. I just don't understand why Rossi isn't down by 10% at this point... Title: Re: WA: Survey USA: Gregoire +1 Post by: HardRCafé on October 14, 2008, 10:31:57 PM If this isn't defying political gravity, I don't know what is. I just don't understand why Rossi isn't down by 10% at this point... Because the only argument for Gregoire is that she totally isn't the Republican? Title: Re: WA: Survey USA: Gregoire +1 Post by: Aizen on October 14, 2008, 10:33:49 PM Well, this same poll has Obama up by 16 so I'm now worried. I hold Washington in very high esteem... I pray they won't disappoint me come election night.
Title: Re: WA: Survey USA: Gregoire +1 Post by: Keystone Phil on October 14, 2008, 10:40:06 PM Down one while Obama is up sixteen? Awesome. Let's go, Dino!
Title: Re: WA: Survey USA: Gregoire +1 Post by: bgwah on October 14, 2008, 11:34:03 PM Ugh... I just don't understand how she is doing so badly in the polls. She has been a better governor than at least Locke and he had a good amount of support. Is it just sympathy for Rossi left over from 2004?? Gregoire has the same problem as McCain. She's an ugly old person against a young handsome ethnic with an exotic name. Anyway, this has definitely been the most vicious campaign I've ever seen. I'm glad I have TiVo, otherwise I would have to watch their awful commercials. I thought Gregoire's crying mom commercial was bad, but Dino outdid her with his child-rapist-watching-the-kiddies-getting-ice-cream ad. Title: Re: WA: Survey USA: Gregoire +1 Post by: Associate Justice PiT on October 15, 2008, 12:24:03 AM Ugh... I just don't understand how she is doing so badly in the polls. She has been a better governor than at least Locke and he had a good amount of support. Is it just sympathy for Rossi left over from 2004?? Gregoire has the same problem as McCain. She's an ugly old person against a young handsome ethnic with an exotic name. Anyway, this has definitely been the most vicious campaign I've ever seen. I'm glad I have TiVo, otherwise I would have to watch their awful commercials. I thought Gregoire's crying mom commercial was bad, but Dino outdid her with his child-rapist-watching-the-kiddies-getting-ice-cream ad. Sounds like a fun race (not). Title: Re: WA: Survey USA: Gregoire +1 Post by: Ogre Mage on October 15, 2008, 01:18:06 AM She has been a better governor than at least Locke and he had a good amount of support. You appear to be alone in this perspective. Gregoire has gotten more done in one term than Locke did in two. However, her PR skills are poor next to Locke's. Title: Re: WA: Survey USA: Gregoire +1 Post by: Eraserhead on October 15, 2008, 01:26:46 AM Has Rossi run ads comparing himself to Obama yet?
Title: Re: WA: Survey USA: Gregoire +1 Post by: Meeker on October 15, 2008, 01:29:18 AM Has Rossi run ads comparing himself to Obama yet? Run ads, sent out mailers, put up billboards... This entire election comes down to turnout. I would like to say that the Democrats have a superior turnout machine, but based on the personal experience I've had with the Gregoire campaign I just can't say that with a straight face. Title: Re: WA: Survey USA: Gregoire +1 Post by: Alcon on October 15, 2008, 01:35:44 AM Has Rossi run ads comparing himself to Obama yet? Giant illuminated I-5 billboard near Fife: "Voting Obama? Vote for change in Olympia, too. Vote Rossi" Title: Re: WA: Survey USA: Gregoire +1 Post by: HardRCafé on October 15, 2008, 01:38:23 AM Gregoire has gotten more done in one term than Locke did in two. It's not progress if it's bad. Title: Re: WA: Survey USA: Gregoire +1 Post by: Ogre Mage on October 15, 2008, 02:33:05 AM Gregoire has gotten more done in one term than Locke did in two. It's not progress if it's bad. From a conservative point of view many of her policy successes would be "bad," but they are accomplishments nevertheless. I can list them out if anyone wants. But what conservatives and Rossi worshippers think about what she has done isn't the problem. Many people just think she hasn't done anything -- because she has not communicated effectively. Title: Re: WA: Survey USA: Gregoire +1 Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 15, 2008, 11:25:41 AM http://wa.uselectionatlas.org/blog.html I wrote a blog entry comparing Obama's numbers on the subsamples to Gregoire's. Basic conclusion: Quote So, what’s going on here? Again, looks like a lot of noise, with economic voters tilting a little Gregoire but her taking a hit among downscale voters. Is any of that real? Very hard to tell. ... If you had to create a profile of the kind of voter likely to go Obama/Rossi from them: he’s relatively young and middle-class, not especially religious, may or may not be college-educated, considers himself to be a slightly Democratic-leaning independent, and lives in a suburban area of Western Washington. Quote If you had to create a profile of the kind of voter likely to go Obama/Rossi from them: he’s relatively young and middle-class, not especially religious, may or may not be college-educated, considers himself to be a slightly Democratic-leaning independent, and lives in a suburban area of Western Washington. So... all the green Washington avatars on this forum then? :PTitle: Re: WA: Survey USA: Gregoire +1 Post by: CultureKing on October 15, 2008, 01:14:08 PM Has Rossi run ads comparing himself to Obama yet? Giant illuminated I-5 billboard near Fife: "Voting Obama? Vote for change in Olympia, too. Vote Rossi" Over here all the Billboards read: "Don't let Seattle steal this election too. Vote Rossi." Isn't that just great? Oh and on a 6-7 mile stretch of road here in Spokane I saw 5 Rossi Billboards. Title: Re: WA: Survey USA: Gregoire +1 Post by: bgwah on October 15, 2008, 01:20:33 PM His campaign is built on division and hatred.
Funny that he's far more of a Seattleite/King Countian (yes I made that word up) than Gregoire. Title: Re: WA: Survey USA: Gregoire +1 Post by: Ogre Mage on October 15, 2008, 02:57:50 PM I find Rossi loathsome. Nothing would give me greater pleasure than to see his political career ended.
Title: Re: WA: Survey USA: Gregoire +1 Post by: Daniel Z on October 15, 2008, 04:56:59 PM If this isn't defying political gravity, I don't know what is. I just don't understand why Rossi isn't down by 10% at this point... Because the only argument for Gregoire is that she totally isn't the Republican? Actualy the only argument for Rossi is that the Democrats have been in power for 24 years, and he came really really close in 04. Rossi will win easy and I have to say that I am disgusted with my state. Title: Re: WA: Survey USA: Gregoire +1 Post by: Eraserhead on October 19, 2008, 05:49:54 PM Has Rossi run ads comparing himself to Obama yet? Giant illuminated I-5 billboard near Fife: "Voting Obama? Vote for change in Olympia, too. Vote Rossi" haha. One of you guys should take a picture of that some time. I'd like to see that. Title: Re: WA: Survey USA: Gregoire +1 Post by: Bandit3 the Worker on October 19, 2008, 11:05:31 PM If Rossi loses, will he throw a big screaming temper tantrum again like the big baby he is?
Title: Re: WA: Survey USA: Gregoire +1 Post by: Keystone Phil on October 19, 2008, 11:13:19 PM If Rossi loses, will he throw a big screaming temper tantrum again like the big baby he is? No, there's an area in eastern Washington that he will carve out as "New Washington." He got the idea from someone on the Internets. Title: Re: WA: Survey USA: Gregoire +1 Post by: CultureKing on October 20, 2008, 08:53:38 PM If Rossi loses, will he throw a big screaming temper tantrum again like the big baby he is? No, there's an area in eastern Washington that he will carve out as "New Washington." He got the idea from someone on the Internets. Ugh.... I would be in that area, it would become simular to Idaho. Do you really want another Idaho?? Oh and Rossi sucks. Title: Re: WA: Survey USA: Gregoire +1 Post by: Keystone Phil on October 20, 2008, 09:42:14 PM Title: Re: WA: Survey USA: Gregoire +1 Post by: Butch McCracken on October 23, 2008, 03:45:31 PM Ugh... I just don't understand how she is doing so badly in the polls. She has been a better governor than at least Locke and he had a good amount of support. Is it just sympathy for Rossi left over from 2004?? I don't follow Washington State politics but haven't the Democrats controlled the governorship for a quite a while now. It could be possible the voters could decided to elect a Republican governor in a Democratic year? Title: Re: WA: Survey USA: Gregoire +1 Post by: Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee on October 25, 2008, 01:28:24 PM Oh and Rossi sucks. Coming from you... ;) Isn't it just funny Phil how every time a poll comes out showing Dino within a hairs breath of Gregoire the Dems and most of the Greens from WA on this forum scream bloody murder? Imagine what they do if Rossi was 10pts ahead. Title: Re: WA: Survey USA: Gregoire +1 Post by: CultureKing on October 25, 2008, 03:33:39 PM Oh and Rossi sucks. Coming from you... ;) Isn't it just funny Phil how every time a poll comes out showing Dino within a hairs breath of Gregoire the Dems and most of the Greens from WA on this forum scream bloody murder? Imagine what they do if Rossi was 10pts ahead. You don't want to know what we would do if he was ahead by 10. Title: Re: WA: Survey USA: Gregoire +1 Post by: Ogre Mage on October 26, 2008, 03:14:39 AM How touching that so many out of state Republicans are so concerned with our Gubernatorial race. At least when there was flooding in the SW part of the state Gregoire dropped her campaign events and went to work, which is more than President Bush can say with regards to the flood in New Orleans. She didn't put a fired horse trader with no disaster relief experience in charge of the operation either.
In fact, Gregoire was praised for her work on the flood, including by Republicans who represent the area. Quote Republican lawmakers are celebrating the passage of several pieces of flood-relief legislation, including a $50 million bond authorization to build flood-control projects. They say cooperation with Gregoire has been excellent through the legislative session that ended Thursday. Everybody has worked very hard on this," said House Minority Leader Richard DeBolt, R-Chehalis. "The governor's office was great to work with." DeBolt made the flood-relief and -prevention legislation a priority for him and his fellow Republicans. And he said House Speaker Frank Chopp was supportive as well. Rep. Gary Alexander, R-Olympia, the ranking Republican on the Appropriations Committee, is DeBolt's seatmate in a district that stretches from the state capital down to the flood zone. "No one in the Legislature or the governor's office has hesitated over our request for flood-mitigation funding," Alexander said in a news release this week. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2004281659_postmanblog14m.html (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/politics/2004281659_postmanblog14m.html) Rossi, of course, only found fault with her work on the issue. Typical of him since he can't show any leadership. Title: Re: WA: Survey USA: Gregoire +1 Post by: Keystone Phil on October 26, 2008, 05:28:18 PM How touching that so many out of state Republicans are so concerned with our Gubernatorial race. We are concerned about the future of this country... Title: Re: WA: Survey USA: Gregoire +1 Post by: CultureKing on October 26, 2008, 07:33:04 PM How touching that so many out of state Republicans are so concerned with our Gubernatorial race. We are concerned about the future of this country... I feel like Washington has fared better than the rest of the country over the past few years so maybe you guys should try to copy what we have done instead of trying to stop something that has clearly been working for us. Title: Re: WA: Survey USA: Gregoire +1 Post by: HardRCafé on October 26, 2008, 08:11:39 PM I feel like Washington has fared better than the rest of the country over the past few years so maybe you guys should try to copy what we have done instead of trying to stop something that has clearly been working for us. Cook Co. is definitely doing its part to copy what King Co. has done. Title: Re: WA: Survey USA: Gregoire +1 Post by: Keystone Phil on October 26, 2008, 11:52:37 PM How touching that so many out of state Republicans are so concerned with our Gubernatorial race. We are concerned about the future of this country... I feel like Washington has fared better than the rest of the country over the past few years so maybe you guys should try to copy what we have done instead of trying to stop something that has clearly been working for us. "Clearly been working?" Really? 52% disapproval for your incumbent Governor and things are "clearly" working? Or are you calling the fine people of your state stupid? Title: Re: WA: Survey USA: Gregoire +1 Post by: Daniel Z on October 27, 2008, 02:17:05 AM How touching that so many out of state Republicans are so concerned with our Gubernatorial race. We are concerned about the future of this country... I feel like Washington has fared better than the rest of the country over the past few years so maybe you guys should try to copy what we have done instead of trying to stop something that has clearly been working for us. "Clearly been working?" Really? 52% disapproval for your incumbent Governor and things are "clearly" working? Or are you calling the fine people of your state stupid? Title: Re: WA: Survey USA: Gregoire +1 Post by: Keystone Phil on October 27, 2008, 09:15:02 AM How touching that so many out of state Republicans are so concerned with our Gubernatorial race. We are concerned about the future of this country... I feel like Washington has fared better than the rest of the country over the past few years so maybe you guys should try to copy what we have done instead of trying to stop something that has clearly been working for us. "Clearly been working?" Really? 52% disapproval for your incumbent Governor and things are "clearly" working? Or are you calling the fine people of your state stupid? Well just get Christine to say that in an ad and we'll all be happy. :) Title: Re: WA: Survey USA: Gregoire +1 Post by: CultureKing on October 27, 2008, 11:00:44 AM How touching that so many out of state Republicans are so concerned with our Gubernatorial race. We are concerned about the future of this country... I feel like Washington has fared better than the rest of the country over the past few years so maybe you guys should try to copy what we have done instead of trying to stop something that has clearly been working for us. "Clearly been working?" Really? 52% disapproval for your incumbent Governor and things are "clearly" working? Or are you calling the fine people of your state stupid? Well just get Christine to say that in an ad and we'll all be happy. :) Her approvals are low because she is currently involved in a very negative campaign coming from both sides and truthfully while many people like what she has done as governor they just don't like her as a person. Title: Re: WA: Survey USA: Gregoire +1 Post by: bgwah on October 27, 2008, 04:52:34 PM Rossi has similar favorable ratings according to Rasmussen. It's also worth pointing out that the 52 number came from a SUSA poll, which I hope we can all agree has been a little weird this year. But even then, SUSA still says Gregoire is up 1 despite her poor approval ratings. But personally I trust Rasmussen more. I can't recall exactly, but I believe they had something like 43% saying she was doing a good job and 34% saying she was doing a bad job. Not quite the same as "approve or disapprove" but whatever.
And like CultureKing said, Gregoire faces the McCain problem. She's an ugly old bureaucrat up against a handsome young man with an exotic name. Title: Re: WA: Survey USA: Gregoire +1 Post by: Ogre Mage on October 28, 2008, 01:51:28 AM There is quantitative data which supports CultureKing's statement that Washington state has fared better overall than much of the country. The Financial Times did a survey (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/def749fa-962e-11dd-9dce-000077b07658.html) of all 50 states to see how each one was faring during the economic crisis. The methodology:
Quote The overall ranking is based on an average ranking of four separate indicators. Individual states were ranked separately from best to worst. Best = 1. highest employment growth rate 2. highest gross state product growth rate 3. highest personal income growth rate 4. lowest foreclosure rate The final ranking was based on an equally weighted mean of these rankings. Washington state finished 12th best in the survey out of the 50 states. Texas was first. Florida had the dubious distinction of finishing last. |