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Title: AK-Rasmussen: Begich leads Sen. Stevens by 8
Post by: Tender Branson on October 29, 2008, 10:53:14 AM
Begich - 52
Stevens - 44

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/state_toplines/alaska/toplines_alaska_senate_election_october_28_2008


Title: Re: AK-Rasmussen: Begich leads Sen. Stevens by 8
Post by: Ronnie on October 29, 2008, 10:54:14 AM
Good riddance


Title: Re: AK-Rasmussen: Begich leads Sen. Stevens by 8
Post by: Sam Spade on October 29, 2008, 10:57:57 AM
I hope that this is enough of a lead, given the history of Alaska polling.


Title: Re: AK-Rasmussen: Begich leads Sen. Stevens by 8
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 29, 2008, 11:23:45 AM
Only +8? What a disgusting state.


Title: Re: AK-Rasmussen: Begich leads Sen. Stevens by 8
Post by: Alcon on October 29, 2008, 11:25:08 AM
Didn't Stevens just get convicted of a felony?  Is he even eligible to vote for himself?


Title: Re: AK-Rasmussen: Begich leads Sen. Stevens by 8
Post by: Verily on October 29, 2008, 11:27:52 AM
Didn't Stevens just get convicted of a felony?  Is he even eligible to vote for himself?

He's on appeal, so I think he's still eligible. I'm also not sure if Alaska bars felons from voting; it's not a Southern state where removing the right from felons was once used as a racial wedge issue and then never abolished.


Title: Re: AK-Rasmussen: Begich leads Sen. Stevens by 8
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on October 29, 2008, 11:39:19 AM
That's it? Wow. At least it's enough.


Title: Re: AK-Rasmussen: Begich leads Sen. Stevens by 8
Post by: Lunar on October 29, 2008, 11:48:36 AM
Didn't Stevens just get convicted of a felony?  Is he even eligible to vote for himself?

He's on appeal, so I think he's still eligible. I'm also not sure if Alaska bars felons from voting; it's not a Southern state where removing the right from felons was once used as a racial wedge issue and then never abolished.

No, Alaska forbids convicted felons from voting.


Title: Re: AK-Rasmussen: Begich leads Sen. Stevens by 8
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on October 29, 2008, 11:52:01 AM
Didn't Stevens just get convicted of a felony?  Is he even eligible to vote for himself?

He's on appeal, so I think he's still eligible. I'm also not sure if Alaska bars felons from voting; it's not a Southern state where removing the right from felons was once used as a racial wedge issue and then never abolished.

No, Alaska forbids convicted felons from voting.

So then Stevens is not eligible to vote for himself?


Title: Re: AK-Rasmussen: Begich leads Sen. Stevens by 8
Post by: Lunar on October 29, 2008, 11:55:41 AM
Didn't Stevens just get convicted of a felony?  Is he even eligible to vote for himself?

He's on appeal, so I think he's still eligible. I'm also not sure if Alaska bars felons from voting; it's not a Southern state where removing the right from felons was once used as a racial wedge issue and then never abolished.

No, Alaska forbids convicted felons from voting.

So then Stevens is not eligible to vote for himself?

Depending how Alaskan law treats appeals.  Also, I don't think bureaucracy can move can fast enough to forbid him.  If you commit a felony on November 3rd, pay bail, and vote on November 4th, I think your vote will count (but not sure).  He could have also voted absentee already.

It's not a crime for felons to TRY to vote, even if they are ineligible.  So Stevens has no obligation to not to try.  The felony thing probably most hurts voters registering or re-registering to vote.


Title: Re: AK-Rasmussen: Begich leads Sen. Stevens by 8
Post by: Nutmeg on October 29, 2008, 12:13:12 PM

From the poll:

6. Is Ted Stevens more ethical, less ethical, or about as ethical as most politicians?
15% More ethical
31% Less ethical
52% About as ethical
2% Not sure


Title: Re: AK-Rasmussen: Begich leads Sen. Stevens by 8
Post by: Aizen on October 29, 2008, 12:14:59 PM
Alaska = Joke state. To feel good about this race I wanted Begich to haev a 6 point lead... so it's barely enough for me right now.


Title: Re: AK-Rasmussen: Begich leads Sen. Stevens by 8
Post by: Alcon on October 29, 2008, 12:25:09 PM
Depending how Alaskan law treats appeals.  Also, I don't think bureaucracy can move can fast enough to forbid him.  If you commit a felony on November 3rd, pay bail, and vote on November 4th, I think your vote will count (but not sure).  He could have also voted absentee already.

It's not a crime for felons to TRY to vote, even if they are ineligible.  So Stevens has no obligation to not to try.  The felony thing probably most hurts voters registering or re-registering to vote.

At least here, they do a sweep of felony convictions every month.  He'll probably be able to vote for himself (although technically he shouldn't be able to -- I checked AK law), but unless he wins the appeal, it'll be his last election.

"lol."


Title: Re: AK-Rasmussen: Begich leads Sen. Stevens by 8
Post by: minionofmidas on October 29, 2008, 02:36:28 PM

From the poll:

6. Is Ted Stevens more ethical, less ethical, or about as ethical as most politicians?
15% More ethical
31% Less ethical
52% About as ethical
2% Not sure
;D


Title: Re: AK-Rasmussen: Begich leads Sen. Stevens by 8
Post by: perdedor on October 29, 2008, 03:22:30 PM

^^^^


Title: Re: AK-Rasmussen: Begich leads Sen. Stevens by 8
Post by: Eraserhead on October 29, 2008, 04:17:32 PM
Umm... wow.


Title: Re: AK-Rasmussen: Begich leads Sen. Stevens by 8
Post by: cinyc on October 30, 2008, 02:48:41 AM
Didn't Stevens just get convicted of a felony?  Is he even eligible to vote for himself?

Yes, according to the Alaska Department of Law (which was asked for its opinion). (Anchorage Daily News link here (http://community.adn.com/adn/node/133599).)  The reason?  Senator Stevens hasn't been sentenced yet.  Although previously a novel issue in Alaska, this is the rule in Washington, Oregon and California.