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Title: Olympia Snowe
Post by: Spaghetti Cat on November 19, 2008, 03:59:39 PM
Why not the more conservative of the two Maine twins?


Title: Re: Olympia Snowe
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on November 19, 2008, 04:47:38 PM
No.

If anything, she's more so liberal than her fellow compatriot Susan Collins, serving alongside her as part of Maine's current Senatorial delegation. No moderate of her calibre will ever be nominated by the Republican Party during their current climate. End of story.


Title: Re: Olympia Snowe
Post by: The Duke on November 19, 2008, 05:35:30 PM
No.

If anything, she's more so liberal than her fellow compatriot Susan Collins, serving alongside her as part of Maine's current Senatorial delegation. No moderate of her calibre will ever be nominated by the Republican Party during their current climate. End of story.

We just had a nominee who was a moderate.


Title: Re: Olympia Snowe
Post by: Franzl on November 19, 2008, 05:37:54 PM
No.

If anything, she's more so liberal than her fellow compatriot Susan Collins, serving alongside her as part of Maine's current Senatorial delegation. No moderate of her calibre will ever be nominated by the Republican Party during their current climate. End of story.

We just had a nominee who was a moderate.

true, but I doubt McCain would have been nominated under normal circumstances. He primarily got lucky that he had Huckabee/Romney/Thompson to spilt the conservative vote in the early states, eventually giving him an unbeatable boost.


Title: Re: Olympia Snowe
Post by: Nixon in '80 on November 19, 2008, 09:44:57 PM
No.

If anything, she's more so liberal than her fellow compatriot Susan Collins, serving alongside her as part of Maine's current Senatorial delegation. No moderate of her calibre will ever be nominated by the Republican Party during their current climate. End of story.

We just had a nominee who was a moderate.

true, but I doubt McCain would have been nominated under normal circumstances. He primarily got lucky that he had Huckabee/Romney/Thompson to spilt the conservative vote in the early states, eventually giving him an unbeatable boost.

The conservative anti-McCain vote couldn't beat McCain because they couldn't rally around a single candidate, because Huckabee and Romney were both so awful.

McCain, ironically, was probably the best choice for conservatives, through no fault of his own.

Then he sold his soul.:(


Title: Re: Olympia Snowe
Post by: Keystone Phil on November 19, 2008, 11:56:44 PM
No.

If anything, she's more so liberal than her fellow compatriot Susan Collins, serving alongside her as part of Maine's current Senatorial delegation. No moderate of her calibre will ever be nominated by the Republican Party during their current climate. End of story.

We just had a nominee who was a moderate.

John McCain was, at the very least, center right. He is not a moderate.


Title: Re: Olympia Snowe
Post by: Ronnie on November 20, 2008, 12:18:37 AM
I would vote for her in an instant, but she is a horrible speech writer, and delivers almost as terribly as Bush.  She is popular among Dems (especially the moderate ones), but the south would be absolutely demoralized with the pick, and there would be record low turnout among the base.

Overall, I think it would be a wash, and it's not really worth the risk, especially if she would lose.


Title: Re: Olympia Snowe
Post by: opebo on November 20, 2008, 06:04:28 AM

Hahaha, only in America.

But seriously, though McCain is an extreme rightist, he is moderate in the sense that he is somewhere in the middle of the GOP.  And, he lost.

But as for Olympia Snowe, she's going nowhere, least of all up.


Title: Re: Olympia Snowe
Post by: minionofmidas on November 20, 2008, 07:13:32 AM

Hahaha, only in America.

But seriously, though McCain is an extreme rightist, he is moderate in the sense that he is somewhere in the middle of the GOP. 

John McCain was, at the very least, center right. He is not a moderate.
Basically, what these two have said. Or to rephrase:

Not in the same sense of the word.


Title: Re: Olympia Snowe
Post by: ChrisFromNJ on November 20, 2008, 05:10:56 PM
No.

If anything, she's more so liberal than her fellow compatriot Susan Collins, serving alongside her as part of Maine's current Senatorial delegation. No moderate of her calibre will ever be nominated by the Republican Party during their current climate. End of story.

We just had a nominee who was a moderate.

McCain is not a moderate. Never is. Never was.


Title: Re: Olympia Snowe
Post by: Nixon in '80 on November 20, 2008, 05:21:12 PM
No.

If anything, she's more so liberal than her fellow compatriot Susan Collins, serving alongside her as part of Maine's current Senatorial delegation. No moderate of her calibre will ever be nominated by the Republican Party during their current climate. End of story.

We just had a nominee who was a moderate.

McCain is not a moderate. Never is. Never was.

McCain was, for a brief period before his first run for President, juuuuust to the right of center.

Sure, he's not a moderate now, but he was.


Title: Re: Olympia Snowe
Post by: Frozen Sky Ever Why on November 21, 2008, 11:36:22 AM
Olympia Snowe would be an acceptable President, but the Republicans would never nominate a non-fundamentalist nutjob idiot christian anti-abortion person.


Title: Re: Olympia Snowe
Post by: ?????????? on November 21, 2008, 01:10:33 PM
Olympia Snowe would be an acceptable President, but the Republicans would never nominate a non-fundamentalist nutjob idiot christian anti-abortion person.

Ok, who's the sock?


Title: Re: Olympia Snowe
Post by: justfollowingtheelections on November 21, 2008, 02:59:47 PM
Olympia Snowe would be an acceptable President, but the Republicans would never nominate a non-fundamentalist nutjob idiot christian anti-abortion person.

I'm afraid you're right.  Snowe is one of the few republicans I have respect for.  Just watch them nominate someone like DeMint instead.


Title: Re: Olympia Snowe
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on November 21, 2008, 06:15:05 PM
Olympia Snowe would be an acceptable President, but the Republicans would never nominate a non-fundamentalist nutjob idiot christian anti-abortion person.

Ok, who's the sock?

There are plenty of people with this oinion to go around. I don't except every right-wing hack to be a sock.


Title: Re: Olympia Snowe
Post by: ?????????? on November 21, 2008, 06:52:02 PM
Olympia Snowe would be an acceptable President, but the Republicans would never nominate a non-fundamentalist nutjob idiot christian anti-abortion person.

Ok, who's the sock?

There are plenty of people with this oinion to go around. I don't except every right-wing hack to be a sock.

Yes, but that guy is clearly Donut4McCain.


Title: Re: Olympia Snowe
Post by: Frozen Sky Ever Why on November 21, 2008, 08:07:49 PM
Any criticism towards me from a racist will be considered a compliment.


Title: Re: Olympia Snowe
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on November 22, 2008, 01:15:14 AM
No.

If anything, she's more so liberal than her fellow compatriot Susan Collins, serving alongside her as part of Maine's current Senatorial delegation. No moderate of her calibre will ever be nominated by the Republican Party during their current climate. End of story.

The sad thing is she's not moderate at all. She joined all of the other Senate Republicans in whining about how Democrats should be bipartisan.  "Bipartisan"  seems to be code for Democrats should do whatever Republicans want them to do. 


Title: Re: Olympia Snowe
Post by: Spaghetti Cat on November 23, 2008, 11:41:31 AM
No.

If anything, she's more so liberal than her fellow compatriot Susan Collins, serving alongside her as part of Maine's current Senatorial delegation. No moderate of her calibre will ever be nominated by the Republican Party during their current climate. End of story.

The sad thing is she's not moderate at all. She joined all of the other Senate Republicans in whining about how Democrats should be bipartisan.  "Bipartisan"  seems to be code for Democrats should do whatever Republicans want them to do. 
Umm........ok..............


Title: Re: Olympia Snowe
Post by: Joe Republic on November 23, 2008, 12:36:05 PM
No.

If anything, she's more so liberal than her fellow compatriot Susan Collins, serving alongside her as part of Maine's current Senatorial delegation. No moderate of her calibre will ever be nominated by the Republican Party during their current climate. End of story.

The sad thing is she's not moderate at all. She joined all of the other Senate Republicans in whining about how Democrats should be bipartisan.  "Bipartisan"  seems to be code for Democrats should do whatever Republicans want them to do. 

Congratulations for not only utterly failing to understand the difference between 'moderate' and 'partisan', but also failing to recognize that Snowe is indeed very much a moderate.  CQ.com (http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?parm1=142) says she's the least loyal to the Republican party line, at only 59% voting concordance.  Therefore, as one of the most bipartisan-in-terms-of-voting-record senators, I don't think it's too much for her to ask the same of her colleagues.


Oh God... I'm debating with jfern...


Title: Re: Olympia Snowe
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on November 23, 2008, 12:48:35 PM
CQ.com (http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?parm1=142) says she's the least loyal to the Republican party line, at only 59% voting concordance. 

That survey also found that Lieberman voted 80% of the time in 2008, compared to just 64% of the time for Evan Bayh.  Interesting.


Title: Re: Olympia Snowe
Post by: Joe Republic on November 23, 2008, 01:02:39 PM
CQ.com (http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?parm1=142) says she's the least loyal to the Republican party line, at only 59% voting concordance.

That survey also found that Lieberman voted 80% of the time in 2008, compared to just 64% of the time for Evan Bayh.  Interesting.

Indeed it is.  Few people seem to look past Lieberman's unabashed attention whoring to notice that he is as loyal as or more loyal than sixteen Democratic senators.  That's about a third of them.


Title: Re: Olympia Snowe
Post by: opebo on November 23, 2008, 01:05:17 PM
No.

If anything, she's more so liberal than her fellow compatriot Susan Collins, serving alongside her as part of Maine's current Senatorial delegation. No moderate of her calibre will ever be nominated by the Republican Party during their current climate. End of story.

The sad thing is she's not moderate at all. She joined all of the other Senate Republicans in whining about how Democrats should be bipartisan.  "Bipartisan"  seems to be code for Democrats should do whatever Republicans want them to do. 

Congratulations for not only utterly failing to understand the difference between 'moderate' and 'partisan', but also failing to recognize that Snowe is indeed very much a moderate.  CQ.com (http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?parm1=142) says she's the least loyal to the Republican party line, at only 59% voting concordance. 

The key here is to note that she is a moderate for a Republican


Title: Re: Olympia Snowe
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on November 23, 2008, 01:10:05 PM
CQ.com (http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?parm1=142) says she's the least loyal to the Republican party line, at only 59% voting concordance.

That survey also found that Lieberman voted 80% of the time in 2008, compared to just 64% of the time for Evan Bayh.  Interesting.

Indeed it is.  Few people seem to look past Lieberman's unabashed attention whoring to notice that he is as loyal as or more loyal than sixteen Democratic senators.  That's about a third of them.

Exactly.  Throught Bush's tenure, Lieberman voted with him 59% of time; by comparison, 3 other Democrats voted with him more: Nelson (NE), Landrieu, and Lincoln.  He voted with the Democrats 88% of time; 14 Democrats had lower scores: Nelson (NE), Baucus, Landrieu, Lincoln, Bayh, Pryor, McCaskill, Carper, Conrad, Tester, Byrd, Johnson, Nelson (FL), and Salazar.


Title: Re: Olympia Snowe
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on November 24, 2008, 07:27:14 PM
CQ.com (http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?parm1=142) says she's the least loyal to the Republican party line, at only 59% voting concordance.

That survey also found that Lieberman voted 80% of the time in 2008, compared to just 64% of the time for Evan Bayh.  Interesting.

Indeed it is.  Few people seem to look past Lieberman's unabashed attention whoring to notice that he is as loyal as or more loyal than sixteen Democratic senators.  That's about a third of them.

Exactly.  Throught Bush's tenure, Lieberman voted with him 59% of time; by comparison, 3 other Democrats voted with him more: Nelson (NE), Landrieu, and Lincoln.  He voted with the Democrats 88% of time; 14 Democrats had lower scores: Nelson (NE), Baucus, Landrieu, Lincoln, Bayh, Pryor, McCaskill, Carper, Conrad, Tester, Byrd, Johnson, Nelson (FL), and Salazar.

I bolded the most important part.


Title: Re: Olympia Snowe
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on November 29, 2008, 04:08:08 AM
No.


Title: Re: Olympia Snowe
Post by: JSojourner on December 01, 2008, 04:14:48 PM
No.

If anything, she's more so liberal than her fellow compatriot Susan Collins, serving alongside her as part of Maine's current Senatorial delegation. No moderate of her calibre will ever be nominated by the Republican Party during their current climate. End of story.

We just had a nominee who was a moderate.

John McCain was, at the very least, center right. He is not a moderate.

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