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Title: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: © tweed on December 20, 2008, 03:12:32 PM http://s3.moveon.org/images/shep_large.gif
even my mom said it reminded her of that Title: Re: is this bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: Lunar on December 20, 2008, 03:14:41 PM How is that a bumper sticker, it's vertically oriented!
But yes, that's mad naziesque Title: Re: is this bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: © tweed on December 20, 2008, 03:17:04 PM How is that a bumper sticker, it's vertically oriented! solid point Title: Re: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: anti_leftist on December 20, 2008, 03:18:39 PM For sure. I'd like to see the original source of that though (ie: the webpage where it was initially displayed).
Title: Re: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on December 20, 2008, 03:18:53 PM The "O" is the new swastika!
Title: Re: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: Meeker on December 20, 2008, 03:19:41 PM I have 5, and a bigger version in poster form :D
Title: Re: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: paul718 on December 20, 2008, 03:31:12 PM Almost every piece of effective campaign imagery is reminiscent of Nazism. The reason being that the Nazis were so damn good at it. It's a shame, really.
Even though I didn't vote for Obama, I think that's a cool poster. Title: Re: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: anti_leftist on December 20, 2008, 03:32:18 PM http://omgposters.com/2008/11/06/yes-we-did-victory-obama-poster-by-shepard-fairey-updates/
So it actually is a real poster that was bought en masse by Obamaphiles after the election. If it wasn't for the MoveOn URL, I would've been convinced when I first saw it that Republicans designed it to illustrate the personality cult and make Nazi comparisons because's it just so ridiculously over the top. Can't believe some of his supporters were actually stupid enough to design that. Title: Re: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on December 20, 2008, 03:42:21 PM Reminds me of various stores throughout Minneapolis that have tons of posters in the windows with that portrait of Obama and then "HOPE" in the rainbow lettering below. And it was several identical posters. Look personality cultish. I should put up pictures. Of course it didn't disturb me one bit.
Title: Re: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: Хahar 🤔 on December 20, 2008, 03:46:39 PM What is this "Fourth Reich"?
Title: Re: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: Lief 🗽 on December 20, 2008, 03:47:14 PM I think it looks cool. Reminded me more of an old campaign poster from the 19th century than anything Nazi.
() Title: Re: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: Keystone Phil on December 20, 2008, 04:24:48 PM Remember when people flipped out when I said that this guy would be idolized like Che? I didn't say he would actually be like Che the man but people didn't want to hear my explanation.
For whatever odd reason, there's not much outrage when his worship is seen as Nazi-esque. Interesting. Title: Re: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: perdedor on December 20, 2008, 05:13:29 PM This is a silly concept. Why is it that any well designed piece of media put forth by the Obama camp must be compared the nazis/communists. Grow up.
Title: Re: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: Marokai Backbeat on December 20, 2008, 05:14:42 PM This is a silly concept. Why is it that any well designed piece of media put forth by the Obama camp must be compared the nazis/communists. Grow up. Title: Re: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: minionofmidas on December 20, 2008, 05:17:19 PM This is not remotely reminiscent of anything printed before ca.1965.
Or (excluding reprints) between 1975 and 2007. Title: Re: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: Psychic Octopus on December 20, 2008, 06:01:15 PM it is naziesque, but VERY VERY COOL!
Title: Re: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: Tetro Kornbluth on December 20, 2008, 06:50:43 PM This is not remotely reminiscent of anything printed before ca.1965. Or (excluding reprints) between 1975 and 2007. ^^^ I thought similiar aswell. Title: Re: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: RIP Robert H Bork on December 20, 2008, 07:04:50 PM Yes, it resembles Nazi Germany.
PS, what did you mean by "NOT bumper sticker"? Title: Re: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: Barack Hussian YO MAMA!!!! on December 20, 2008, 07:49:51 PM The "O" is the new swastika! LOL its Political marketing sure people like Hitler used stuff like this but so haven't other American politicans , I think the comparison Phil made of Che gravera is more accurate I think a lot of the obama's campaign marketing is similar to that. this doesn't make obama similar to Hitler because Obama is not a dictator or a Nazi. I hope people don't just throw out unfounded Hitler accusations over something as dumb as political marketing. I remember talking to somebody on youtube who said that obama is just like Hitler, Stalin or famous cult leader Jim Jones, only because he was charismatic and could give a good speech I told him that those comparison's where totally ridicules. Obama is NOT Hitler. Title: Re: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: Flying Dog on December 20, 2008, 08:56:26 PM No. Not really.
Title: Re: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on December 20, 2008, 11:25:27 PM For sure. I'd like to see the original source of that though (ie: the webpage where it was initially displayed). I know it's the sticker that MoveOn.org was mailing out (I somehow got on their mailing list????) Title: Re: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: Scam of God on December 21, 2008, 01:12:10 AM Remember when people flipped out when I said that this guy would be idolized like Che? I didn't say he would actually be like Che the man but people didn't want to hear my explanation. For whatever odd reason, there's not much outrage when his worship is seen as Nazi-esque. Interesting. Yeah, as if you people never (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Ronald_Reagan_Legacy_Project) were part of a cult of personality. Title: Re: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: Keystone Phil on December 21, 2008, 01:35:31 AM Remember when people flipped out when I said that this guy would be idolized like Che? I didn't say he would actually be like Che the man but people didn't want to hear my explanation. For whatever odd reason, there's not much outrage when his worship is seen as Nazi-esque. Interesting. Yeah, as if you people never (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Ronald_Reagan_Legacy_Project) were part of a cult of personality. I don't think it's ever reached the point that it's gotten to with Obama. Title: Re: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: Scam of God on December 21, 2008, 01:39:16 AM Remember when people flipped out when I said that this guy would be idolized like Che? I didn't say he would actually be like Che the man but people didn't want to hear my explanation. For whatever odd reason, there's not much outrage when his worship is seen as Nazi-esque. Interesting. Yeah, as if you people never (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Ronald_Reagan_Legacy_Project) were part of a cult of personality. I don't think it's ever reached the point that it's gotten to with Obama. Garbage. Ronald Reagan is the most undeservedly lionized figure in Western culture this side of Christ. When a group of devotees make a concerted effort to put Obama's face on Mount Rushmore, get back to me. Title: Re: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: Keystone Phil on December 21, 2008, 01:42:17 AM Remember when people flipped out when I said that this guy would be idolized like Che? I didn't say he would actually be like Che the man but people didn't want to hear my explanation. For whatever odd reason, there's not much outrage when his worship is seen as Nazi-esque. Interesting. Yeah, as if you people never (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Ronald_Reagan_Legacy_Project) were part of a cult of personality. I don't think it's ever reached the point that it's gotten to with Obama. Garbage. Ronald Reagan is the most undeservedly lionized figure in Western culture this side of Christ. When a group of devotees make a concerted effort to put Obama's face on Mount Rushmore, get back to me. You don't think that there will be an effort to get Obama on currency, have streets/buildings named after him, etc. just because he's the first black President? Get a clue, dude. Plus, do me a favor and look how many things have been named after JFK. Reagan will never compare to that. Title: Re: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: Scam of God on December 21, 2008, 01:43:58 AM Remember when people flipped out when I said that this guy would be idolized like Che? I didn't say he would actually be like Che the man but people didn't want to hear my explanation. For whatever odd reason, there's not much outrage when his worship is seen as Nazi-esque. Interesting. Yeah, as if you people never (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Ronald_Reagan_Legacy_Project) were part of a cult of personality. I don't think it's ever reached the point that it's gotten to with Obama. Garbage. Ronald Reagan is the most undeservedly lionized figure in Western culture this side of Christ. When a group of devotees make a concerted effort to put Obama's face on Mount Rushmore, get back to me. You don't think that there will be an effort to get Obama on currency, have streets/buildings named after him, etc. just because he's the first black President? Get a clue, dude. Just as they made an attempt to knock Hamilton off the ten and replace him with Reagan, no? Stop being a duplicitous jackass and admit that the Right has been just as guilty of such messianic celebritarianism. Title: Re: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: bgwah on December 21, 2008, 01:48:31 AM It looks very late 19th/early 20th century to me. Maybe 1880s-1920sish. Not quite Hitler-era...
but I'd be lying if I said was familiar with Nazi propaganda. Do you have any pictures of similar-looking Nazi posters? Title: Re: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: Scam of God on December 21, 2008, 01:51:01 AM So will Jindal. Except Jindal will never be President. :) Title: Re: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: Keystone Phil on December 21, 2008, 02:04:08 AM Remember when people flipped out when I said that this guy would be idolized like Che? I didn't say he would actually be like Che the man but people didn't want to hear my explanation. For whatever odd reason, there's not much outrage when his worship is seen as Nazi-esque. Interesting. Yeah, as if you people never (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Ronald_Reagan_Legacy_Project) were part of a cult of personality. I don't think it's ever reached the point that it's gotten to with Obama. Garbage. Ronald Reagan is the most undeservedly lionized figure in Western culture this side of Christ. When a group of devotees make a concerted effort to put Obama's face on Mount Rushmore, get back to me. You don't think that there will be an effort to get Obama on currency, have streets/buildings named after him, etc. just because he's the first black President? Get a clue, dude. Just as they made an attempt to knock Hamilton off the ten and replace him with Reagan, no? Stop being a duplicitous jackass and admit that the Right has been just as guilty of such messianic celebritarianism. I'm not denying that it was tried but don't tell me that there won't be a more serious effort for Obama. Again, you're being the jackass and refusing the acknowledge that JFK has tons of things named after him. Reagan doesn't even compare. So, no, we're not as bad as it is with the Kennedy's and I'm sure it will be worse with Obama. Title: Re: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: Scam of God on December 21, 2008, 02:10:21 AM Remember when people flipped out when I said that this guy would be idolized like Che? I didn't say he would actually be like Che the man but people didn't want to hear my explanation. For whatever odd reason, there's not much outrage when his worship is seen as Nazi-esque. Interesting. Yeah, as if you people never (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Ronald_Reagan_Legacy_Project) were part of a cult of personality. I don't think it's ever reached the point that it's gotten to with Obama. Garbage. Ronald Reagan is the most undeservedly lionized figure in Western culture this side of Christ. When a group of devotees make a concerted effort to put Obama's face on Mount Rushmore, get back to me. You don't think that there will be an effort to get Obama on currency, have streets/buildings named after him, etc. just because he's the first black President? Get a clue, dude. Just as they made an attempt to knock Hamilton off the ten and replace him with Reagan, no? Stop being a duplicitous jackass and admit that the Right has been just as guilty of such messianic celebritarianism. I'm not denying that it was tried but don't tell me that there won't be a more serious effort for Obama. Absolutely I will tell you that you're wrong. No Obama supporter is even considering it, whereas the Right knew they had to establish a messiah-figure to compete with FDR's memory in the 80's. Ronald Reagan's legacy was a wholly artificial construct. Quote Again, you're being the jackass and refusing the acknowledge that JFK has tons of things named after him. Reagan doesn't even compare. So, no, we're not as bad as it is with the Kennedy's and I'm sure it will be worse with Obama. Actually, Reagan has approximately ~6,000 objects and locations named after him, versus ~8,500 for JFK. Reagan's not doing bad for someone who never really was President. (Incidentally, I see that typical Nixonian jealousy of Kennedy is alive and well on the Right.) Title: Re: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: Keystone Phil on December 21, 2008, 02:13:09 AM Absolutely I will tell you that you're wrong. No Obama supporter is even considering it, whereas the Right knew they had to establish a messiah-figure to compete with FDR's memory in the 80's. Ronald Reagan's legacy was a wholly artificial construct. LOL You can assure me that not a single Obama supporter is even considering it? Really? I suppose you didn't hear about the school being named after Obama already. Yes, already. Before he even took office. Quote Reagan's not doing bad for someone who never really was President. ::) Quote (Incidentally, I see that typical Nixonian jealousy of Kennedy is alive and well on the Right.) Jealousy? Ha! I have no desire to be like the Kennedy family. Title: Re: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: Scam of God on December 21, 2008, 02:18:08 AM I suppose you didn't hear about the school being named after Obama already. Yes, already. Before he even took office. So what? Am I supposed to be outraged, as a White American™, that the historically African-American neighborhood on the Delmar Loop in St. Louis wants to change its name in his honor? No, I'm not enough of an envious c*cksucker to feel thus. It's been a long time coming; let them have it. But sorry, I'm not going to feed into the faux-populism you people need to win elections. Quote Jealousy? Ha! I have no desire to be like the Kennedy family. Sure you do. As a conservative, you desire to be loaded; as a conservative, you desire to use the Kennedy's wealth to whip up people into a populistic backlash against them. That's the way right-wing politics works. Title: Re: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: Keystone Phil on December 21, 2008, 02:29:10 AM I suppose you didn't hear about the school being named after Obama already. Yes, already. Before he even took office. So what? Am I supposed to be outraged, as a White American™, that the historically African-American neighborhood on the Delmar Loop in St. Louis wants to change its name in his honor? No, I'm not enough of an envious c*cksucker to feel thus. It's been a long time coming; let them have it. But sorry, I'm not going to feed into the faux-populism you people need to win elections. Quote Jealousy? Ha! I have no desire to be like the Kennedy family. Sure you do. As a conservative, you desire to be loaded; as a conservative, you desire to use the Kennedy's wealth to whip up people into a populistic backlash against them. That's the way right-wing politics works. Wow. Just...wow. We've got a real winner with this one. Title: Re: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: minionofmidas on December 21, 2008, 07:38:26 AM It looks very late 19th/early 20th century to me. Maybe 1880s-1920sish. Not quite Hitler-era... but I'd be lying if I said was familiar with Nazi propaganda. Do you have any pictures of similar-looking Nazi posters? Title: Re: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: © tweed on December 23, 2008, 05:06:06 PM http://brianakira.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/stalin-poster-08.jpg
not quite Fourth Reich, but in the same vein I'm going for here Title: Re: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: Middle-aged Europe on December 23, 2008, 07:09:53 PM Barack Obama's election victory was surely a Triumph of the Will! (pun intended, obviously)
Title: Re: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: Edu on December 23, 2008, 08:05:29 PM I'm not denying that it was tried but don't tell me that there won't be a more serious effort for Obama. Again, you're being the jackass and refusing the acknowledge that JFK has tons of things named after him. Reagan doesn't even compare. So, no, we're not as bad as it is with the Kennedy's and I'm sure it will be worse with Obama. Well, Obama is the first black president, so he can be considered a symbol of sorts, the same thing would have happened if the first woman president were elected. So his "Hype" might be more justified considering the context. And JFK has been out of office for the past 45 years, Reagan was president 20 years ago and he died just 4 years ago, give it time and i'm sure that Reagan will have as many things named after him as Kennedy Title: Re: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: LanceMcSteel on December 24, 2008, 01:37:35 AM Remember when people flipped out when I said that this guy would be idolized like Che? I didn't say he would actually be like Che the man but people didn't want to hear my explanation. For whatever odd reason, there's not much outrage when his worship is seen as Nazi-esque. Interesting. Phil youve been hilariously wrong every time on every issue, so I wouldnt trust your opinion on anything. Title: Re: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: Eraserhead on December 25, 2008, 11:36:21 AM No. It's funny how a guy standing in front of a big crowd= nazism these days. Well, actually it's not really funny, just lame.
Title: Re: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: Keystone Phil on December 25, 2008, 11:40:31 AM Remember when people flipped out when I said that this guy would be idolized like Che? I didn't say he would actually be like Che the man but people didn't want to hear my explanation. For whatever odd reason, there's not much outrage when his worship is seen as Nazi-esque. Interesting. Phil youve been hilariously wrong every time on every issue, so I wouldnt trust your opinion on anything. kthnx. Title: Re: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: wildfood on December 26, 2008, 06:48:31 AM Fourth Reich?
Nah. Title: Re: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: exopolitician on December 26, 2008, 09:13:29 AM I got the same sticker in the mail from their campaign. Its on my door in my room cause I have no other place to put it. Its kinda neat. I also got a postcard from the campaign too.
Title: Re: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: minionofmidas on December 26, 2008, 04:47:59 PM http://brianakira.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/stalin-poster-08.jpg not quite Fourth Reich, but in the same vein I'm going for here Title: Re: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: Psychic Octopus on December 27, 2008, 07:52:15 PM Isn't there a already a movement to create "Obama Day?" There will never be a Reagan Day, a JFK Day, or a FDR Day for that matter. It is undeniable Reagan is worshipped by conservatives, as the Kennedys (The old ones, not Caroline) are worshipped by the left. But Obama will be a god if he is sucessful, and will be undoubtfully surpass Reagan and JFK in Fandom, and actually, already has.
Title: Re: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: Middle-aged Europe on December 27, 2008, 07:59:09 PM Isn't there a already a movement to create "Obama Day?" There will never be a Reagan Day, a JFK Day, or a FDR Day for that matter. It is undeniable Reagan is worshipped by conservatives, as the Kennedys (The old ones, not Caroline) are worshipped by the left. But Obama will be a god if he is sucessful, and will be undoubtfully surpass Reagan and JFK in Fandom, and actually, already has. Ahem... http://gov.ca.gov/proclamation/8656/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reagan_Day Title: Re: is this NOT bumper sticker too Fourth Reich? Post by: Psychic Octopus on December 27, 2008, 09:31:17 PM Isn't there a already a movement to create "Obama Day?" There will never be a Reagan Day, a JFK Day, or a FDR Day for that matter. It is undeniable Reagan is worshipped by conservatives, as the Kennedys (The old ones, not Caroline) are worshipped by the left. But Obama will be a god if he is sucessful, and will be undoubtfully surpass Reagan and JFK in Fandom, and actually, already has. Ahem... http://gov.ca.gov/proclamation/8656/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reagan_Day Oh. I stand corrected. Well at least they did it after his presidency. |