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Title: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: Ogre Mage on March 06, 2009, 11:22:11 PM Quote President Obama will fulfill a campaign promise on an important issue for liberals and scientists Monday by signing an executive order freeing up federal funding for embryonic stem cell research, according to news reports. According to administration officials quoted in those reports, Obama will hold an event to celebrate the new policy at 11:00 a.m. Monday. Obama's move to lift the restrictions placed on federal funding for the research by President George W. Bush on Aug. 9, 2001, should come as no surprise. Obama repeatedly promised he would do this, and he co-sponsored legislation that would have repealed the restrictions while in the Senate. Bush twice vetoed the bill. Still, the announcement Monday should quell the anxiety some liberal activists and science advocates reportedly developed during the several weeks that Obama has been president. Scientists badly want access to federal dollars to advance this research. Embryonic stem cells could have the potential to be converted into any type of human tissue, meaning they could be used to develop therapies for countless ailments. Liberals decried Bush's position as one that put ideology ahead of scientific evidence — a point Obama is sure to drive home Monday. Bush, with the support of allies in the conservative movement, opposed expanding federal funding on this type of stem cell research because human embryos are destroyed in the process. Though there are other kinds of stem cell research using cells from adults or placentas (and researchers are coming up with more ways to get the cells), scientists continue to maintain that those that come from embryos have the most potential. The next step is for the National Institutes of Health to develop guidelines for how to dole money out. Then Congress will have to take action to put a federal stem-cell funding policy on the books. Given that the House and Senate passed stem cell legislation several times since over recent years — including during a period when Republicans controlled the agenda — that seems more than possible. http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/obama-to-repeal-stem-cell-funding-ban-2009-03-06.html (http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/obama-to-repeal-stem-cell-funding-ban-2009-03-06.html) Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: Ronnie on March 06, 2009, 11:42:20 PM Good
Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: tik 🪀✨ on March 07, 2009, 12:47:11 AM Offensively overdue, but welcome.
Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: Smash255 on March 07, 2009, 12:55:50 AM Excellent news.
Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: Marokai Backbeat on March 07, 2009, 01:10:05 AM Offensively overdue, but welcome. Excellent news. Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: J. J. on March 07, 2009, 02:46:41 PM That's one I agree with.
Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: Holmes on March 07, 2009, 03:41:51 PM Speaking of stem cells, Canadians found a way to possibly convert skin cells into stem cells (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20090302.STEMCELL02/TPStory/National). :) A good time to fund research.
Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on March 07, 2009, 03:48:10 PM Fantastic.
Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: Speed of Sound on March 07, 2009, 06:23:56 PM Oh yeah Obama, you grease up that Liberal Baby Killing Machine!
And do the greatest favor to science that a president has probably ever done, thus advancing medical science in America and the world more than we can possibly imagine and save the lives of millions. Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: ilikeverin on March 07, 2009, 06:56:12 PM Delightful; my cousin who's in the field will be elated :)
Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: aaaa2222 on March 07, 2009, 07:11:33 PM Hey! My family just invested in a company in the field. Lucky us!
Although Obama is flopping economically, he really has brought social justice. Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: 7,052,770 on March 07, 2009, 07:21:49 PM Obama just made the proper pro-life move. Excellent.
Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: RIP Robert H Bork on March 07, 2009, 07:29:58 PM Ugh.
Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on March 07, 2009, 08:27:59 PM My grandfather had Alzheimer's, and it eventually killed him, as did his older brother. How can you, being pro-life, not approve of something which will save more lives in the future than you can possibly imagine? Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: Holmes on March 07, 2009, 08:31:53 PM Did people skip my post saying that they discovered a way to possibly turn an adult's cells into stem cells without any consequences and not use a fetus?
If that's the case and people are still whining, well, feel free not to ever use stem cells if it would save your life. :) Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: MasterJedi on March 07, 2009, 08:39:48 PM Every so often he does something good.
Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: Landslide Lyndon on March 08, 2009, 05:31:16 AM Did people skip my post saying that they discovered a way to possibly turn an adult's cells into stem cells without any consequences and not use a fetus? If that's the case and people are still whining, well, feel free not to ever use stem cells if it would save your life. :) And lose a useful wedge issue which they can use to whip the base? Are you joking? Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: Holmes on March 08, 2009, 09:11:16 AM Did people skip my post saying that they discovered a way to possibly turn an adult's cells into stem cells without any consequences and not use a fetus? If that's the case and people are still whining, well, feel free not to ever use stem cells if it would save your life. :) And lose a useful wedge issue which they can use to whip the base? Are you joking? Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck on March 08, 2009, 10:52:15 AM Could someone explain to me the process by which these cells are harvested, because I've always been a little iffy on this subject. I support lifting the ban because it will someday cure diseases, but still, it IS a bit touchy and I think even liberals have to admit that.
Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: Lunar on March 08, 2009, 11:02:42 AM I don't think they do.
I think there are fairly bold majorities that support federal funding of stem cell research. Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: Holmes on March 08, 2009, 11:03:29 AM Could someone explain to me the process by which these cells are harvested, because I've always been a little iffy on this subject. I support lifting the ban because it will someday cure diseases, but still, it IS a bit touchy and I think even liberals have to admit that. Like, Alzheimer's for example. Stem cells would be able to fix the damage caused in the brain. Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: RIP Robert H Bork on March 09, 2009, 12:47:45 PM My grandfather had Alzheimer's, and it eventually killed him, as did his older brother. How can you, being pro-life, not approve of something which will save more lives in the future than you can possibly imagine? Stem cells may save lives, but not at the expense of the lives of others. Besides, if I did support stem cell reasearch, then I would be accused of being a hypocrite, because destroying embryos is OK for stem cells, but not for abortion. Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: Democratic Hawk on March 09, 2009, 01:08:16 PM In a statement, former First Lady, Nancy Reagan welcomes President Obama's decision.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/19787.html Under fire from congressional Republicans for lifting restrictions on stem-cell research, President Barack Obama got a powerful endorsement for his move Monday from Nancy Reagan, the former’s president’s wife. “I’m very grateful that President Obama has lifted the restrictions on federal funding for embryonic stem cell research,” she wrote in a statement released shortly after Obama reversed the Bush administration limits. “These new rules will now make it possible for scientists to move forward. I urge researchers to make use of the opportunities that are available to them, and to do all they can to fulfill the promise that stem cell research offers." Nancy Reagan has been an outspoken advocate of stem-cell research – and scientists hope that the research could someday lead to a cure for Alzheimer’s disease, which afflicted her late husband, Ronald Reagan. Her statement also illustrates how support for the research crosses party lines, even though many in the anti-abortion movement strongly oppose the research on moral and ethical grounds. Reagan continued, “Countless people, suffering from many different diseases, stand to benefit from the answers stem cell research can provide. We owe it to ourselves and to our children to do everything in our power to find cures for these diseases – and soon. As I’ve said before, time is short, and life is precious.” Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: Tender Branson on March 09, 2009, 01:11:24 PM Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: Democratic Hawk on March 09, 2009, 01:17:41 PM Good
Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: Brandon H on March 09, 2009, 01:21:50 PM My grandfather had Alzheimer's, and it eventually killed him, as did his older brother. How can you, being pro-life, not approve of something which will save more lives in the future than you can possibly imagine? Stem cells may save lives, but not at the expense of the lives of others. Besides, if I did support stem cell reasearch, then I would be accused of being a hypocrite, because destroying embryos is OK for stem cells, but not for abortion. Not to mention that ESCR has produced zero cures or treatments, while ASCR has produced at least 70 cures. (Though the federal government should not be funding either of these things at all.) Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: Smash255 on March 09, 2009, 02:07:22 PM My grandfather had Alzheimer's, and it eventually killed him, as did his older brother. How can you, being pro-life, not approve of something which will save more lives in the future than you can possibly imagine? Stem cells may save lives, but not at the expense of the lives of others. Besides, if I did support stem cell reasearch, then I would be accused of being a hypocrite, because destroying embryos is OK for stem cells, but not for abortion. You do realize that these cells are leftover embryonic cells which have no chance at ever becoming life, and will be thrown away... Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: Holmes on March 09, 2009, 02:29:55 PM Okay, so research that was perfectly legal in the past now gets federal funding. Great! Superb! What a visionary Obama is. Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: opebo on March 09, 2009, 03:21:24 PM Okay, so research that was perfectly legal in the past now gets federal funding. Great! Superb! What a visionary Obama is. Or more likely that the research doesn't happen at all. Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: Holmes on March 09, 2009, 03:22:49 PM Okay, so research that was perfectly legal in the past now gets federal funding. Great! Superb! What a visionary Obama is. Or more likely that the research doesn't happen at all. Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: Coburn In 2012 on March 09, 2009, 04:20:10 PM He is not only an inept economist and a foreign policy coward, he is a butcher of human life. This is not a surprise. At least he was honest and told us he would do this.
Liberals always whine about how stem cell is gonna cure diseases. Well guess what? ADULT stem cells are being used in research and have been successfull in getting cures. Killing babies for research has never helped in a single case. What does that tell you?????? Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: Landslide Lyndon on March 09, 2009, 04:22:18 PM He is not only an inept economist and a foreign policy coward, he is a butcher of human life. This is not a surprise. At least he was honest and told us he would do this. Liberals always whine about how stem cell is gonna cure diseases. Well guess what? ADULT stem cells are being used in research and have been successfull in getting cures. Killing babies for research has never helped in a single case. What does that tell you?????? I understand where you come from. Even stem cell research can't find a cure for stupidity. Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: Holmes on March 09, 2009, 04:29:12 PM He is not only an inept economist and a foreign policy coward, he is a butcher of human life. This is not a surprise. At least he was honest and told us he would do this. Liberals always whine about how stem cell is gonna cure diseases. Well guess what? ADULT stem cells are being used in research and have been successfull in getting cures. Killing babies for research has never helped in a single case. What does that tell you?????? And, embryos aren't babies. Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: Coburn In 2012 on March 09, 2009, 04:31:45 PM He is not only an inept economist and a foreign policy coward, he is a butcher of human life. This is not a surprise. At least he was honest and told us he would do this. Liberals always whine about how stem cell is gonna cure diseases. Well guess what? ADULT stem cells are being used in research and have been successfull in getting cures. Killing babies for research has never helped in a single case. What does that tell you?????? And, embryos aren't babies. WRONG AGAIN LIBERALS... (don't you guys get tired of it?) http://www.stemcellresearch.org/statement/statement.htm Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: Landslide Lyndon on March 09, 2009, 04:36:55 PM (don't you guys get tired of it?) Correcting morons like you? No. Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: Holmes on March 09, 2009, 05:09:43 PM He is not only an inept economist and a foreign policy coward, he is a butcher of human life. This is not a surprise. At least he was honest and told us he would do this. Liberals always whine about how stem cell is gonna cure diseases. Well guess what? ADULT stem cells are being used in research and have been successfull in getting cures. Killing babies for research has never helped in a single case. What does that tell you?????? And, embryos aren't babies. WRONG AGAIN LIBERALS... (don't you guys get tired of it?) http://www.stemcellresearch.org/statement/statement.htm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4465717.stm Let's see, yours is from 1999 and mine is from 2005. Hmm. If you had any respect for science, you wouldn't oppose this research. Even Nancy Reagan supports stem cell research because if it were better funded, maybe Ronald would still be alive today. Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on March 09, 2009, 05:57:05 PM If you had any respect for science, you wouldn't oppose this research. It is perfectly possible to have a great deal of "respect" for science and, yet, still have ethical qualms about research that crosses (or approaches) certain lines. Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: Holmes on March 09, 2009, 06:35:30 PM If you had any respect for science, you wouldn't oppose this research. It is perfectly possible to have a great deal of "respect" for science and, yet, still have ethical qualms about research that crosses (or approaches) certain lines. Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: Filuwaúrdjan on March 09, 2009, 06:56:55 PM If you had any respect for science, you wouldn't oppose this research. It is perfectly possible to have a great deal of "respect" for science and, yet, still have ethical qualms about research that crosses (or approaches) certain lines. I would rather not list here even a small section of the horrors caused by unethical medical and scientific practices over the years, although I'm more than prepared to do so. If you don't think that ethics matter, you have no business ever being in any position in which you might seriously influence the life of another. The lack of even a basic level of mealy-mouthed toleration on this issue is disturbing... although, I guess, it's a reflection on what western (and especially American) political discourse has turned into in recent decades. Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: Frodo on March 09, 2009, 07:06:34 PM Better late than never.
Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: Holmes on March 09, 2009, 07:46:10 PM If you had any respect for science, you wouldn't oppose this research. It is perfectly possible to have a great deal of "respect" for science and, yet, still have ethical qualms about research that crosses (or approaches) certain lines. I would rather not list here even a small section of the horrors caused by unethical medical and scientific practices over the years, although I'm more than prepared to do so. If you don't think that ethics matter, you have no business ever being in any position in which you might seriously influence the life of another. The lack of even a basic level of mealy-mouthed toleration on this issue is disturbing... although, I guess, it's a reflection on what western (and especially American) political discourse has turned into in recent decades. Although the good news is that some countries have put stricter rules and regulations for such practices for the better, so that's a good thing. Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: Smash255 on March 09, 2009, 07:52:41 PM If you had any respect for science, you wouldn't oppose this research. It is perfectly possible to have a great deal of "respect" for science and, yet, still have ethical qualms about research that crosses (or approaches) certain lines. I would rather not list here even a small section of the horrors caused by unethical medical and scientific practices over the years, although I'm more than prepared to do so. If you don't think that ethics matter, you have no business ever being in any position in which you might seriously influence the life of another. The lack of even a basic level of mealy-mouthed toleration on this issue is disturbing... although, I guess, it's a reflection on what western (and especially American) political discourse has turned into in recent decades. Perhaps, but the detractors in this state basically state a bold faced lie as the reason they are opposed to the research. You would think based off the reasoning that we would all these dead babies when in fact we are generally talking about cells which are about to be thrown into the garbage. Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: aaaa2222 on March 09, 2009, 08:28:28 PM Although I'm a libertarian by heart, I have a special place in my heart for science, and I truly approve of this. It could save potentially millions of lives.
Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: Lunar on March 09, 2009, 09:01:47 PM I think you can be libertarian but still support federally funded science, especially for science that doesn't necessarily fall into the capitalist system (not viagra). Science improves business and stuff.
Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on March 09, 2009, 09:23:19 PM I agree with this move. However, I disagree with those hollering on how the war on science was over. This was never banned during Bush's years. The government just didn't pay for it.
Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: Marokai Backbeat on March 09, 2009, 09:27:06 PM I agree with this move. However, I disagree with those hollering on how the war on science was over. This was never banned during Bush's years. The government just didn't pay for it. De-facto ban, let's not delude ourselves. Title: Re: Obama to repeal stem cell funding ban on March 9th Post by: Lunar on March 09, 2009, 10:20:25 PM Huh? It was a ban on federal research dollars.
Did it even go so far as to ban companies receiving federal dollars to have no part in stem cell research? Because, if so, this is a bigger deal. It reminds me of the refusal to give any money to international health agencies that also give family planning advice* *ish |