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Title: Pennsylvania 2012 Post by: Frozen Sky Ever Why on May 03, 2009, 12:09:13 AM How does Pennsylvania vote in this matchup?
Obama Biden vs. Jindal/Thune Obama's approvals are 50/45 Title: Re: Pennsylvania 2012 Post by: Keystone Phil on May 03, 2009, 09:57:04 AM With those ratings, he probably wins by the same amount he won by this year or maybe slightly less.
Title: Re: Pennsylvania 2012 Post by: You kip if you want to... on May 03, 2009, 11:12:53 AM How does Pennsylvania vote in this matchup? Obama Biden vs. Jindal/Thune Obama's approvals are 50/45 Probably between 5 and 10 points in PA. Title: Re: Pennsylvania 2012 Post by: hcallega on May 03, 2009, 03:57:24 PM Probably higher since I can't see the Reagan Democrats in the Pittsburgh Suburbs voting for Jindal.
Title: Re: Pennsylvania 2012 Post by: TeePee4Prez on May 03, 2009, 10:01:38 PM Probably higher since I can't see the Reagan Democrats in the Pittsburgh Suburbs voting for Jindal. Tough call. I think Jindal being Catholic might also help. Jindal vs. a white Democrat, I could easily see your point. McCain does appeal to those voters a bit more however. That said I'd call for a 56-43 Obama victory with most western counties flipping back to the Dems, but nowhere near 1988 levels. Eastern PA there would be little effect. Title: Re: Pennsylvania 2012 Post by: Coburn In 2012 on May 04, 2009, 11:46:03 AM The messiah's approval ratings in 2012 will be in the teens so the question or poll is irrevelant. Obama is FAIL.
Title: Re: Pennsylvania 2012 Post by: Landslide Lyndon on May 04, 2009, 11:56:33 AM The messiah's approval ratings in 2012 will be in the teens so the question or poll is irrevelant. Obama is FAIL. Our favorite clown is back in town. Title: Re: Pennsylvania 2012 Post by: aaaa2222 on May 04, 2009, 03:50:19 PM The messiah's approval ratings in 2012 will be in the teens so the question or poll is irrevelant. Obama is FAIL. Title: Re: Pennsylvania 2012 Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on May 04, 2009, 03:51:41 PM The messiah's approval ratings in 2012 will be in the teens so the question or poll is irrevelant. Obama is FAIL. Welcome back, Coburn! Title: Re: Pennsylvania 2012 Post by: pbrower2a on May 04, 2009, 06:38:26 PM The messiah's approval ratings in 2012 will be in the teens so the question or poll is irrevelant. Obama is FAIL. Explain, please. What would a President have to do, short of a disgraceful and unambiguous crime such as treason, bribery, or murder, to get an approval rating that low? Even Dubya stayed well clear of the teens despite a bungled war and an imploding economy. In recent months his approval ratings suggest that he is gaining popularity. He has positive ratings in some States in which he got creamed on Election Day -- most notably Louisiana, Arkansas, Tennessee, Kentucky, and West Virginia. Even Utah! That doesn't say that he will win any of them... but he doesn't have to win any of them. Obama wins with any recovery, even if the recovery doesn't bring the heady speculation of five years ago. He wins if he doesn't bungle his way into a war of his choice and folly. Title: Re: Pennsylvania 2012 Post by: Coburn In 2012 on May 04, 2009, 06:49:43 PM The messiah's approval ratings in 2012 will be in the teens so the question or poll is irrevelant. Obama is FAIL. Explain, please. What would a President have to do, short of a disgraceful and unambiguous crime such as treason, bribery, or murder, to get an approval rating that low? Even Dubya stayed well clear of the teens despite a bungled war and an imploding economy. In recent months his approval ratings suggest that he is gaining popularity. He has positive ratings in some States in which he got creamed on Election Day -- most notably Louisiana, Arkansas, Tennessee, Kentucky, and West Virginia. Even Utah! That doesn't say that he will win any of them... but he doesn't have to win any of them. Obama wins with any recovery, even if the recovery doesn't bring the heady speculation of five years ago. He wins if he doesn't bungle his way into a war of his choice and folly. Try taxing the hell out of the working/producing class... Title: Re: Pennsylvania 2012 Post by: pbrower2a on May 04, 2009, 06:59:32 PM The messiah's approval ratings in 2012 will be in the teens so the question or poll is irrevelant. Obama is FAIL. Explain, please. What would a President have to do, short of a disgraceful and unambiguous crime such as treason, bribery, or murder, to get an approval rating that low? Even Dubya stayed well clear of the teens despite a bungled war and an imploding economy. In recent months his approval ratings suggest that he is gaining popularity. He has positive ratings in some States in which he got creamed on Election Day -- most notably Louisiana, Arkansas, Tennessee, Kentucky, and West Virginia. Even Utah! That doesn't say that he will win any of them... but he doesn't have to win any of them. Obama wins with any recovery, even if the recovery doesn't bring the heady speculation of five years ago. He wins if he doesn't bungle his way into a war of his choice and folly. Try taxing the hell out of the working/producing class... You must be confusing Obama's tax policies with the so-called Fair Tax of Mike Huckabee. In any event, people are so desperate for economic recovery that they will put up for higher taxes so long as those taxes support job-creating government activity whether through services or the building or repairing of infrastructure. Title: Re: Pennsylvania 2012 Post by: Landslide Lyndon on May 05, 2009, 12:56:06 AM You must be confusing Obama's tax policies with the so-called Fair Tax of Mike Huckabee. To be fair, it's hard not to be confused with all the drugs they give to him at the psychiatric facility in which they keep him locked. Title: Re: Pennsylvania 2012 Post by: Nym90 on May 05, 2009, 08:11:11 AM The messiah's approval ratings in 2012 will be in the teens so the question or poll is irrevelant. Obama is FAIL. Explain, please. What would a President have to do, short of a disgraceful and unambiguous crime such as treason, bribery, or murder, to get an approval rating that low? Even Dubya stayed well clear of the teens despite a bungled war and an imploding economy. In recent months his approval ratings suggest that he is gaining popularity. He has positive ratings in some States in which he got creamed on Election Day -- most notably Louisiana, Arkansas, Tennessee, Kentucky, and West Virginia. Even Utah! That doesn't say that he will win any of them... but he doesn't have to win any of them. Obama wins with any recovery, even if the recovery doesn't bring the heady speculation of five years ago. He wins if he doesn't bungle his way into a war of his choice and folly. Try taxing the hell out of the working/producing class... You must be confusing Obama's tax policies with the so-called Fair Tax of Mike Huckabee. In any event, people are so desperate for economic recovery that they will put up for higher taxes so long as those taxes support job-creating government activity whether through services or the building or repairing of infrastructure. Yeah. A bad economy is a far bigger financial burden than high taxes. Not to mention that the bottom 95 percent of tax payers are seeing no tax increase, of course. Title: Re: Pennsylvania 2012 Post by: pbrower2a on May 06, 2009, 02:27:49 PM The messiah's approval ratings in 2012 will be in the teens so the question or poll is irrevelant. Obama is FAIL. Explain, please. What would a President have to do, short of a disgraceful and unambiguous crime such as treason, bribery, or murder, to get an approval rating that low? Even Dubya stayed well clear of the teens despite a bungled war and an imploding economy. In recent months his approval ratings suggest that he is gaining popularity. He has positive ratings in some States in which he got creamed on Election Day -- most notably Louisiana, Arkansas, Tennessee, Kentucky, and West Virginia. Even Utah! That doesn't say that he will win any of them... but he doesn't have to win any of them. Obama wins with any recovery, even if the recovery doesn't bring the heady speculation of five years ago. He wins if he doesn't bungle his way into a war of his choice and folly. Try taxing the hell out of the working/producing class... You must be confusing Obama's tax policies with the so-called Fair Tax of Mike Huckabee. In any event, people are so desperate for economic recovery that they will put up for higher taxes so long as those taxes support job-creating government activity whether through services or the building or repairing of infrastructure. Yeah. A bad economy is a far bigger financial burden than high taxes. Not to mention that the bottom 95 percent of tax payers are seeing no tax increase, of course. Such is the blind spot of the GOP; deferential to its upper-crust contributors, it can't recognize that people would rather get higher taxes, more and better services, and fuller employment than get stuck with lower wages and pervasive unemployment. |