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Title: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: DariusNJ on June 21, 2009, 05:48:05 PM
I know that there's no real way to find out, but I want to see what people think. What percentage of different sports fans vote for the Republican\ Democrat in an even election?

My Predictions:
Football fans: Republican 55, Democrat 45
Basketball: Democrat 75, Republican 25
Baseball: 50-50
Hockey: Democrat 85, Republican 15
NASCAR Racing: Republican 90, Democrat 10
Golf: Republican 85, Democrat 15
Tennis: Not sure, but I'm guessing Democrat?


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: ?????????? on June 21, 2009, 05:54:18 PM
NASCAR and Golf are pretty wildly popular. I imagine the split would be near even.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: justfollowingtheelections on June 21, 2009, 05:57:59 PM
NASCAR and Golf are pretty wildly popular. I imagine the split would be near even.

Only in the South...


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: ?????????? on June 21, 2009, 06:28:21 PM
NASCAR and Golf are pretty wildly popular. I imagine the split would be near even.

Only in the South...

Yep, in southern states like California and New Hampshire.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: DariusNJ on June 21, 2009, 06:31:52 PM
NASCAR and Golf are pretty wildly popular. I imagine the split would be near even.

Only in the South...

Yep, in southern states like California and New Hampshire.

lol, yeah your right, NASCAR racing has some liberal viewers now, but it remains heavily dominated by white, religious, Southerners.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: hcallega on June 21, 2009, 06:47:08 PM
Darius, I think you're right in regards to STEREOTYPES, but not reality. The fact is that the major sports are so popular, with such divers fan bases there really is no correlation. In fact hockey is the "farm-boy" sport in Canada, so it might have more conservatives. However politically these are my views:

Football: conservative, blue-collar suburbs.

Basketball: Liberal, black, urban

Baseball: Moderate, traditionalist, rural

Hockey: northern, progressive, college kids

NASCAR: southern, conservative, religious

golf: wealthy, white-colar, conservative


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: ?????????? on June 21, 2009, 07:43:41 PM
Hcallega, your effort to dispel stereotypes was in and of itself full of stereotypes.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: hcallega on June 21, 2009, 08:12:07 PM
Indeed it was. I was simply going along with the initial post.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese on June 22, 2009, 06:42:22 AM
What about real football? What do you think the numbers for Calcio fans are?



Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: ?????????? on June 22, 2009, 08:30:33 AM
What about real football? What do you think the numbers for Calcio fans are?



No one cares about soccer, seriously. Unless of course you're a highschool kid or a soccer mom.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: DariusNJ on June 22, 2009, 10:11:54 AM
What about real football? What do you think the numbers for Calcio fans are?



We don't have many soccer fans here in the US, lol. It's a good question though, I'm thinking that American soccer fans would probably lean towards Democrats.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon on June 22, 2009, 11:01:16 AM
I doubt that the figures are nearly as polarized as is suggested on here.  (Especially basketball... remember there is a such thing as college basketball)


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: pogo stick on June 22, 2009, 11:25:59 AM
Football : +20 GOP
Baseball : +7 Democrat
Basketball : +80 democrat
Golf : +13 GOP
Hockey : +18 Democrat
NASCAR : +30 GOP


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck on June 22, 2009, 02:22:02 PM
Football: a little bit of an rural edge to it but still tons of fans in the cities
GOP - 53%
DEM - 45%

Baseball: baseball is always most popular in the city
DEM - 60%
GOP - 39%

Basketball: demographic shift
DEM - 80%
GOP - 20%

Hockey: dominated by Northern cities
DEM - 75%
GOP - 25%

Golf: lots of people play golf, GOP edge
DEM - 45%
GOP - 55%

EDIT: you know what, were talking about SPORTS fans here.  NASCAR is not a sport. 


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: pogo stick on June 22, 2009, 02:26:06 PM
NASCAR is a sport


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: minionofmidas on June 22, 2009, 02:35:19 PM
What about real football? What do you think the numbers for Calcio fans are?



We don't have many soccer fans here in the US, lol. It's a good question though, I'm thinking that American soccer fans would probably lean towards Democrats.
All the non-Caribbean Hispanics form the bulk of Soccer fans in the US, so yeah.

Lol, song coming up on internet radio just included the line "Can't go back to Tennessee, that NASCAR Country's not for me". Song I never heard before called Ruby and Carlos by James McMurtry.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: Badger on June 23, 2009, 11:31:42 AM
Football: a little bit of an rural edge to it but still tons of fans in the cities
GOP - 53%
DEM - 45%

Baseball: baseball is always most popular in the city
DEM - 60%
GOP - 39%

Basketball: demographic shift
DEM - 80%
GOP - 20%

Hockey: dominated by Northern cities
DEM - 75%
GOP - 25%

Golf: lots of people play golf, GOP edge
DEM - 45%
GOP - 55%

EDIT: you know what, were talking about SPORTS fans here.  NASCAR is not a sport. 

Hockey fans (of which I'm one--GO PENS!!), like the players, are overwhelmingly white compared to other sports. Plus the game expanded heavily outside the rust belt over a decade ago. Any Democratic lean is heavily overstated here.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: TeePee4Prez on June 23, 2009, 06:37:38 PM
Football: a little bit of an rural edge to it but still tons of fans in the cities
GOP - 53%
DEM - 45%

Baseball: baseball is always most popular in the city
DEM - 60%
GOP - 39%

Basketball: demographic shift
DEM - 80%
GOP - 20%

Hockey: dominated by Northern cities
DEM - 75%
GOP - 25%

Golf: lots of people play golf, GOP edge
DEM - 45%
GOP - 55%

EDIT: you know what, were talking about SPORTS fans here.  NASCAR is not a sport. 

Hockey fans (of which I'm one--GO PENS!!), like the players, are overwhelmingly white compared to other sports. Plus the game expanded heavily outside the rust belt over a decade ago. Any Democratic lean is heavily overstated here.

And it's an expensive sport.  But also consider the "3M states of hockey"- Minnesota, Michigan, and Massachusetts are heavily Democratic.  I'd say about Democrat 62- GOP 38 with a stronger Dem lean in the farther Northern states and about even in the mid-Atlantic.  "Hockey parents" here have to be fairly well off.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: Smash255 on June 23, 2009, 07:00:37 PM
Football: a little bit of an rural edge to it but still tons of fans in the cities
GOP - 53%
DEM - 45%

Baseball: baseball is always most popular in the city
DEM - 60%
GOP - 39%

Basketball: demographic shift
DEM - 80%
GOP - 20%

Hockey: dominated by Northern cities
DEM - 75%
GOP - 25%

Golf: lots of people play golf, GOP edge
DEM - 45%
GOP - 55%

EDIT: you know what, were talking about SPORTS fans here.  NASCAR is not a sport. 

Hockey fans (of which I'm one--GO PENS!!), like the players, are overwhelmingly white compared to other sports. Plus the game expanded heavily outside the rust belt over a decade ago. Any Democratic lean is heavily overstated here.

And it's an expensive sport.  But also consider the "3M states of hockey"- Minnesota, Michigan, and Massachusetts are heavily Democratic.  I'd say about Democrat 62- GOP 38 with a stronger Dem lean in the farther Northern states and about even in the mid-Atlantic.  "Hockey parents" here have to be fairly well off.

True,  I wouldn't say its as Dem as some of the suggestions, but the 62-38 seems pretty accurate.  I think much of hockey's base tends to be middle to upper middle class liberals.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: TeePee4Prez on June 23, 2009, 07:43:27 PM
Football: a little bit of an rural edge to it but still tons of fans in the cities
GOP - 53%
DEM - 45%

Baseball: baseball is always most popular in the city
DEM - 60%
GOP - 39%

Basketball: demographic shift
DEM - 80%
GOP - 20%

Hockey: dominated by Northern cities
DEM - 75%
GOP - 25%

Golf: lots of people play golf, GOP edge
DEM - 45%
GOP - 55%

EDIT: you know what, were talking about SPORTS fans here.  NASCAR is not a sport. 

Hockey fans (of which I'm one--GO PENS!!), like the players, are overwhelmingly white compared to other sports. Plus the game expanded heavily outside the rust belt over a decade ago. Any Democratic lean is heavily overstated here.

And it's an expensive sport.  But also consider the "3M states of hockey"- Minnesota, Michigan, and Massachusetts are heavily Democratic.  I'd say about Democrat 62- GOP 38 with a stronger Dem lean in the farther Northern states and about even in the mid-Atlantic.  "Hockey parents" here have to be fairly well off.

True,  I wouldn't say its as Dem as some of the suggestions, but the 62-38 seems pretty accurate.  I think much of hockey's base tends to be middle to upper middle class liberals.

Ehh, liberal to libertarian I'd say the base is.  Another thing is in the NY/NJ/PA area to consider is a lot of the best hockey schools are Catholic prep schools, which other than the Jesuit based ones, are usually pretty conservative.  Like I said, it's about 50-50 give or take in the mid-Atlantic because of this.  Other than the Catholic preps, the best schools are usually the high tax base suburban public schools which tend to be more libertarian, if anything.  You don't see too many frozen ponds here in the winter cause our climate is narrowly in the Subtropical zone so the possiblity of seeing "District 5's" like in Mighty Ducks just won't happen here.  The poorer kids tend to go football, basketball, and soccer.   

And when I played back in the 1990s, there was a lot of alumni and politician support to make us the cheapest program in the area.  I also skated with Mediocre CCM Black Tacks as opposed to tbe Bauer 5000's a lot of the preppy kids had..


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: TeePee4Prez on June 23, 2009, 07:55:24 PM
I know that there's no real way to find out, but I want to see what people think. What percentage of different sports fans vote for the Republican\ Democrat in an even election?

My Predictions:
Football fans: Republican 55, Democrat 45
Basketball: Democrat 75, Republican 25
Baseball: 50-50
Hockey: Democrat 85, Republican 15
NASCAR Racing: Republican 90, Democrat 10
Golf: Republican 85, Democrat 15
Tennis: Not sure, but I'm guessing Democrat?


I can only comment on hockey as you can tell.

One thing is probably for certain in football and basketball.  Pro fans are definitely more Democratic while college fans are definitely more Republican.  I would think Pro football has a narrow Dem lean, while basketball has a strong Dem lean due to it's urban nature.  College football and basketball fans are definitely strong Republican outside of the West, Midwest, and Northeast/Mid-Atlantic and probably tossup/lean GOP in those regions.

Baseball is almost impossible to call.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: pogo stick on June 23, 2009, 08:12:54 PM


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Baseball is almost impossible to call.

Baseball is lean Democrat. Like 54-46

Most fans are from the cities AND suburbs. But..I highly doubt All baseball fans are liberals.



Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: DariusNJ on June 23, 2009, 08:21:10 PM
I know that there's no real way to find out, but I want to see what people think. What percentage of different sports fans vote for the Republican\ Democrat in an even election?

My Predictions:
Football fans: Republican 55, Democrat 45
Basketball: Democrat 75, Republican 25
Baseball: 50-50
Hockey: Democrat 85, Republican 15
NASCAR Racing: Republican 90, Democrat 10
Golf: Republican 85, Democrat 15
Tennis: Not sure, but I'm guessing Democrat?


I can only comment on hockey as you can tell.

One thing is probably for certain in football and basketball.  Pro fans are definitely more Democratic while college fans are definitely more Republican.  I would think Pro football has a narrow Dem lean, while basketball has a strong Dem lean due to it's urban nature.  College football and basketball fans are definitely strong Republican outside of the West, Midwest, and Northeast/Mid-Atlantic and probably tossup/lean GOP in those regions.

Baseball is almost impossible to call.

I agree that college football fans are strongly Republican.

 I disagree about the college basketball statement however. College basketball fans are definitely more Republican than the NBA fans, but I'd still say they vote Democrat 55-60%. PPP did a poll during March Madness which showed that UNC fans were actually quite liberal. Duke fans were a bit more conservative, but still more liberal than the electorate. College basketball is very popular in the Midwest (a lean Dem region) and the Atlantic Coast (VA & NC especially). In the South, college basketball is more popular among blacks than whites, which would mean more Dems watching. I think the only region where college basketball fans would be more GOP is in the West, but even then, it would be barely GOP (52-48).


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: pbrower2a on June 25, 2009, 12:29:04 AM
What about real football? What do you think the numbers for Calcio fans are?



We don't have many soccer fans here in the US, lol. It's a good question though, I'm thinking that American soccer fans would probably lean towards Democrats.

They would because the bulk of soccer fans in America are Hispanic.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: cinyc on July 02, 2009, 04:35:00 PM
One thing most of you haven't taken into account is that sports fans tend to be male - who tend to be more Republican than the general population.  Outside of basketball fans (who skew more African American than other sports fans), I think a majority of sports fans are probably Republican, less so for rich man sports like tennis and golf than for blue collar sports like NASCAR, football and hockey.

True sports nuts - those who go to games - are probably more white, male and Republican than casual sports fans.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: DemocratsVictory2008 on July 03, 2009, 12:51:49 AM
I like all the 4 major sports but i would break it up this way...
MLB- slight DEM
NFL- even
college football- lean GOP
NBA- Strong DEM
NHL- Lean DEM
NASCAR- Solid GOP


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: Badger on July 03, 2009, 06:27:08 PM
One thing most of you haven't taken into account is that sports fans tend to be male - who tend to be more Republican than the general population.  Outside of basketball fans (who skew more African American than other sports fans), I think a majority of sports fans are probably Republican, less so for rich man sports like tennis and golf than for blue collar sports like NASCAR, football and hockey.

True sports nuts - those who go to games - are probably more white, male and Republican than casual sports fans.
T

True dat. Also with the steep cost of most sports tickets today, I'd say at least middle class, wealthier the more frequent one attends.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: Stranger in a strange land on July 03, 2009, 08:58:33 PM
One thing most of you haven't taken into account is that sports fans tend to be male - who tend to be more Republican than the general population.  Outside of basketball fans (who skew more African American than other sports fans), I think a majority of sports fans are probably Republican, less so for rich man sports like tennis and golf than for blue collar sports like NASCAR, football and hockey.

True sports nuts - those who go to games - are probably more white, male and Republican than casual sports fans.
T

True dat. Also with the steep cost of most sports tickets today, I'd say at least middle class, wealthier the more frequent one attends.


not really, even among whites those with lower incomes tend to be slightly but noticeably more Democratic. Of course, other factors are more important, mainly regional divisions and the urban/rural divide. NASCAR fans, being predominately white southern males, and largely rural and exurban even in areas outside the South, probably vote Republican at roughly the rate blacks vote Democratic. Golf fans are probably Republican in the South, Democratic in the Northeast and West Coast, and split elsewhere. Hockey fans, living as they do in predominately northern states, were probably traditionally labor union-type Democrats, though that may have changed somewhat in recent years.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: DariusNJ on July 04, 2009, 11:47:36 AM
One thing most of you haven't taken into account is that sports fans tend to be male - who tend to be more Republican than the general population.  Outside of basketball fans (who skew more African American than other sports fans), I think a majority of sports fans are probably Republican, less so for rich man sports like tennis and golf than for blue collar sports like NASCAR, football and hockey.

True sports nuts - those who go to games - are probably more white, male and Republican than casual sports fans.

That's definitely true. For example, people in the crowd at the Super Bowl have to be much wealthier than the average football fan, which probably skews them more Republican, I would think.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: 7,052,770 on July 04, 2009, 05:37:01 PM
In what way are college sports fans more conservative than their pro counterparts?

College students, who make up a disproportionately high percentage of the attendance and fanbase of college teams, are considerably more liberal than the population at large.

Now college baseball, which is really only popular at 5 schools (LSU, Texas, Mississippi State, Ole Miss, and Arkansas) probably has considerably more conservative fans than MLB just because of geography.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: DownWithTheLeft on July 07, 2009, 10:33:40 AM
If we go by not really fans per se, but people who that sport is their favorite sport:

Baseball: 55/45 GOP
Basketball: 75/25 DEM
Football: 55/45 DEM
Hockey: 60/40 DEM
Golf: 90/10 GOP
NASCAR: 95/5 GOP


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers on July 08, 2009, 09:48:30 AM
Nascar crowd: Tennis, Golf, Baseball, Hockey 60/40 GOP
MTV crowd: Football and Basketball  60/40 Labor


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: DariusNJ on July 08, 2009, 06:21:04 PM
Nascar crowd: Tennis, Golf, Baseball, Hockey 60/40 GOP
MTV crowd: Football and Basketball  60/40 Labor

Hockey fans for the GOP? What makes you think that? :P


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: pogo stick on July 08, 2009, 08:10:06 PM
Baseball is either lean-left or lean right


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: Citizen James on July 12, 2009, 12:48:29 AM
I would think that none of the sports has quite as strong a lean as some of the posters here put.  Assuming that the majority of sports fans are male, that gives you a slight conservative lean right there.

My understanding is that baseball players (and possibly fans as well) tend to lean right politically.  Basketball, having a sizable number of African-American fans probably leans slightly left perhaps even as far as 60-40, though I'm really just guessing.

I would think that football probably cuts across party lines, though the primarily male demographic might give it a slight conservative edge.   

I suspect, as others have mentioned, that hockey leans slightly left simply because of the regional demographics of many of the big teams.

I would guess that soccer (the other football) tends liberal because it is seen as an international sport.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: mgrossbe on July 12, 2009, 02:05:35 AM
I agree with most of the opinions here regarding the different sports however i differ on baseball. I think it would be wise to seperate pro and college baseball.  Pro baseball is a northeast, great lakes, and west coast sport.  yes there are teams in texas and florida but look at the attendence there, a tcu football game gets a bigger crowds than the atros cards or a usf game gets larger crowds than a marlins braves game.  For this reason and the regionality, if thats a word, i would put pro baseball in a lean dem catergory.  From my experience **** anecdotal**** pro baseball fans tend to be more liberal not just democratic.  Plus college baseball which may sckew statistics if someone ever tried to quantify this is clearly a southern sport, the whole year round thing and all. God we got crushed when we played southern teams during travel teams and aau seasons.  It was not even fair. RAMBLE RAMBLE RAMBLE.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: DariusNJ on July 12, 2009, 08:26:22 PM
I agree with most of the opinions here regarding the different sports however i differ on baseball. I think it would be wise to seperate pro and college baseball.  Pro baseball is a northeast, great lakes, and west coast sport.  yes there are teams in texas and florida but look at the attendence there, a tcu football game gets a bigger crowds than the atros cards or a usf game gets larger crowds than a marlins braves game.  For this reason and the regionality, if thats a word, i would put pro baseball in a lean dem catergory.  From my experience **** anecdotal**** pro baseball fans tend to be more liberal not just democratic.  Plus college baseball which may sckew statistics if someone ever tried to quantify this is clearly a southern sport, the whole year round thing and all. God we got crushed when we played southern teams during travel teams and aau seasons.  It was not even fair. RAMBLE RAMBLE RAMBLE.

Yeah, all college sports attract a much more conservative audience than their big league counterparts.

If MLB baseball viewers are split politically, then college baseball viewers are pretty conservative without a doubt.



Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: War on Want on July 12, 2009, 11:09:15 PM
If we go by not really fans per se, but people who that sport is their favorite sport:

Baseball: 55/45 GOP
Basketball: 75/25 DEM
Football: 55/45 DEM
Hockey: 60/40 DEM
Golf: 90/10 GOP
NASCAR: 95/5 GOP
I would make Golf 75/25, and NASCAR 85/15 and then switch Baseball and Football. Then I would agree with you.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on July 13, 2009, 01:03:10 AM
Bush won the election at Wrigley Field in 2004 over Kerry. The fans voted as they entered the gates. I Will wager to say that outside of Hockey and Basketball (because of the African Americans), most sports are more GOP than Democrats. It's simply because more men who love sports tend to be more conservative and "manly" and thus would vote Republican.

I know golf is HEAVILY Republican. It's hard to argue it's a 50/50 split. I believe Billy Andrae was the ONLY registered Democrat on the entire PGA Tour in 2004. I remember that being discussed during a tournament.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: DariusNJ on July 14, 2009, 11:16:45 AM
Bush won the election at Wrigley Field in 2004 over Kerry. The fans voted as they entered the gates. I Will wager to say that outside of Hockey and Basketball (because of the African Americans), most sports are more GOP than Democrats. It's simply because more men who love sports tend to be more conservative and "manly" and thus would vote Republican.


Really? That's interesting, do you remember the exact results?


I know golf is HEAVILY Republican. It's hard to argue it's a 50/50 split. I believe Billy Andrae was the ONLY registered Democrat on the entire PGA Tour in 2004. I remember that being discussed during a tournament.

Yeah, I always assumed that gold was heavily GOP. Although now I'd think it would be something like 80-20 GOP, while maybe 10 years ago, it would have been 85-15 or maybe even 90-10.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: HAnnA MArin County on July 14, 2009, 06:57:43 PM
Blah, the best sport isn't even mentioned on here?!

VOLLEYBALL!!

I'm a Nebraska Cornhuskers fan, and I'm very liberal, but I don't know how other volleyball fans vote.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: nclib on July 14, 2009, 08:56:42 PM

Yeah, all college sports attract a much more conservative audience than their big league counterparts.


Is this simply because of urban/rural geography, or is there anything more than that?


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: Hatman 🍁 on July 14, 2009, 09:41:42 PM
I would think Football is followed by conservatives, because that seems to be the case here in Canada. Hockey is loved by everyone, but I would agree in the US it would be dominated by Democrats. (soccer too)

Baseball... around the world, it is seen by the left as very American, and boring.

Basketball... sucks.



Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: DariusNJ on July 15, 2009, 11:16:53 AM

Yeah, all college sports attract a much more conservative audience than their big league counterparts.


Is this simply because of urban/rural geography, or is there anything more than that?

Yeah I would think urban\rural geography is the reason. All 50 states have college sport teams, while the major franchises are only located in big cities. So, for example, if you like watching basketball and you live in Mississippi, your "home team" is in New Orleans or Memphis, which aren't even in the state of Mississippi, obviously. So for a basketball fan in MS, they would rather support a college basketball team like Mississippi State.

Also, tradition is probably a big part of it. Watching college football is a tradition in the South. It has been popular in the South for a LONG time, and most of the college football fans (in the South anyway) are conservatives.

Here's an interesting article I read about the tradition of college football in the South:
http://media.www.westerncarolinian.com/media/storage/paper265/news/2007/09/20/Features/The-Popularity.Of.College.Football.Grows.In.The.South-2978438.shtml


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: Daniel Z on July 15, 2009, 07:53:05 PM
NASCAR probabl has a significant GOP lean, but most other sports probably are no more than 60-40.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: DariusNJ on July 16, 2009, 12:23:31 PM
Did you guys see the Baseball All-star game? It seemed like a large part of the crowd was booing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXuigXfhwC0


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: hcallega on July 16, 2009, 04:53:59 PM
Did you guys see the Baseball All-star game? It seemed like a large part of the crowd was booing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXuigXfhwC0

That's not because of who he is. It's because of the city which he is "reppin"

For those who aren't as baseball savy as myself (GO SAWX!), Chicago and St. Louis are big rivals. Now I know it's Cubs vs. Cardinals, and not White Sox (Obama's team) vs. Cardinals but the point is that the two cities are rivals.

Also consider this: the all-star game is not the average ball game. The tickets are VERY expensive, and that means that you have a lot of rich white folks who do not very much enjoy President Obama's economic policies. Also, the crowd was probably 60-70% cheering, only that those who were booing likely were a lot louder. Also it's in Missouri, so there's that.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: Badger on July 16, 2009, 05:37:16 PM
Did you guys see the Baseball All-star game? It seemed like a large part of the crowd was booing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXuigXfhwC0

That's not because of who he is. It's because of the city which he is "reppin"

For those who aren't as baseball savy as myself (GO SAWX!), Chicago and St. Louis are big rivals. Now I know it's Cubs vs. Cardinals, and not White Sox (Obama's team) vs. Cardinals but the point is that the two cities are rivals.

Also consider this: the all-star game is not the average ball game. The tickets are VERY expensive, and that means that you have a lot of rich white folks who do not very much enjoy President Obama's economic policies. Also, the crowd was probably 60-70% cheering, only that those who were booing likely were a lot louder. Also it's in Missouri, so there's that.

Politicians appearing at sporting events are routinely booed far harder than they're cheered.

Not the most typical example, but one of my favorites: ;-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXNetpeu_mk

By that general standard, and despite all the factors hcallega correctly noted above, I thought the crowd was actually fairly receptive (though obviously not universally so).



Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: UpcomingYouthvoter on April 23, 2011, 10:22:45 PM
Bump


I've been on sports forums for while now and they are so conservative that it blows my mind.

NFL 110 Rep/105 Dem

NHL 45 Rep/75 Dem

MLB 73 Rep/50 Dem

NBA 25 Rep/85 Dem


This is just my guess


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: Elyski on April 25, 2011, 07:02:41 PM
I used to play basketball when I was on my high school team, I was pretty good and the team's starting center. Now with that said, my political matrix scores were,
S: 7.5
E: 8.0
So I guess I'm part of the 1% uber conservative basketball players.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: UpcomingYouthvoter on May 07, 2011, 05:26:33 PM
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Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: FEMA Camp Administrator on May 07, 2011, 07:02:19 PM
Bump


I've been on sports forums for while now and they are so conservative that it blows my mind.

NFL 110 Rep/105 Dem

NHL 45 Rep/75 Dem

MLB 73 Rep/50 Dem

NBA 25 Rep/85 Dem


This is just my guess


Dang. I enjoy watching hockey.

By the way, anyone got track for the record? I doubt there are any "fans" outside of the participants, and the only time I can think of someone watching it is during the Olympics, but are there any guesses for that?


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: UpcomingYouthvoter on May 07, 2011, 07:51:24 PM
Bump


I've been on sports forums for while now and they are so conservative that it blows my mind.

NFL 110 Rep/105 Dem

NHL 45 Rep/75 Dem

MLB 73 Rep/50 Dem

NBA 25 Rep/85 Dem


This is just my guess


Dang. I enjoy watching hockey.

By the way, anyone got track for the record? I doubt there are any "fans" outside of the participants, and the only time I can think of someone watching it is during the Olympics, but are there any guesses for that?


Maybe Dem? Any thoughts on the graph I posted with sports like NFL learning heavily Republican?


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: SmokingCricket on May 12, 2011, 08:50:57 PM
Football: Republican 50 - Democrat 50
Basketball: Democrat 90 - Republican 10
Baseball: Democrat 55 - Republican 45
Hockey: Democrat 85 - Republican 15
Soccer: Democrat 85 - Republican 15
NASCAR: Republican 95 - Democrat 5
Golf: Republican 80 - Democrat 20
Tennis: Republican 70 - Democrat 30


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: phk on May 13, 2011, 04:26:50 PM
I see Sports in general being R with the exception of Basketball (strong minority presence).

In terms of White voters, I think all sports might be at least lean R.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: UpcomingYouthvoter on May 13, 2011, 06:37:20 PM
I see Sports in general being R with the exception of Basketball (strong minority presence).

In terms of White voters, I think all sports might be at least lean R.


Even soccer/futball? That sport has to be R with minority support and the hostile towards the sport from the Republicans.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: charlestondxman on May 21, 2011, 02:35:37 PM
In the South, most college football fans lean GOP. College basketball is mixed, depending on where you are. College baseball in this area is mostly solid Republicans.

High school football in this area is so universal it doesn't matter what party you are.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: Nichlemn on May 21, 2011, 09:59:14 PM
What about people who don't care for any sports? I presume they're fairly Democratic, being disproportionately female and/or counter-cultural.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: UpcomingYouthvoter on May 21, 2011, 11:06:52 PM
What about people who don't care for any sports? I presume they're fairly Democratic, being disproportionately female and/or counter-cultural.


Agree with that but there are females that are sports fans and have been few athletes that were part of counter-cultural/feminist movement such as Bill Walton and Billie Jean King. I would think they are more of socialist/green then Dems but I would put Democrats in second with far-right such as Alex Jones nutjobs in third for those that don't care about sports.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: Nichlemn on May 22, 2011, 12:29:48 AM
What about people who don't care for any sports? I presume they're fairly Democratic, being disproportionately female and/or counter-cultural.


Agree with that but there are females that are sports fans and have been few athletes that were part of counter-cultural/feminist movement such as Bill Walton and Billie Jean King. I would think they are more of socialist/green then Dems but I would put Democrats in second with far-right such as Alex Jones nutjobs in third for those that don't care about sports.


More socialist/green than average, sure, but those groups are so small that it's very unlikely they make up a plurality. There's possibly an ultra-religious component, too.

I wonder what percentage of Americans fall into this category. The larger the percentage, the more likely it is be reflective of general preferences. FWIW, I'm a non-sports fan (albeit non-American), but I follow politics as if it were a sport.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: UpcomingYouthvoter on May 22, 2011, 09:08:33 AM
What about people who don't care for any sports? I presume they're fairly Democratic, being disproportionately female and/or counter-cultural.


Agree with that but there are females that are sports fans and have been few athletes that were part of counter-cultural/feminist movement such as Bill Walton and Billie Jean King. I would think they are more of socialist/green then Dems but I would put Democrats in second with far-right such as Alex Jones nutjobs in third for those that don't care about sports.


More socialist/green than average, sure, but those groups are so small that it's very unlikely they make up a plurality. There's possibly an ultra-religious component, too.

I wonder what percentage of Americans fall into this category. The larger the percentage, the more likely it is be reflective of general preferences. FWIW, I'm a non-sports fan (albeit non-American), but I follow politics as if it were a sport.


Most American athletes don't give  about politics and if they do it's because of "god", taxes, gay marriage, and other stuff that makes them mostly vote Republican.  There is this movie called "Not just a game" that will share story about athletes politics, mostly from the left since David Zirin is progressive learning. http://youtu.be/-Jp09hFJZXI And I see politics as somewhat like sports but I see everything from music to art as politics.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: Del Tachi on May 24, 2011, 09:14:58 PM
Another question:  Are college sport fans more conservative than those who follow professional teams?

Being from a college town, my family always followed college football, baseball, and basketball.  We destested pro-football.  I mean, who wants to watch fat, thirty year olds play football?  We almost never watched the Super Bowl, but the BCS National Championship was a BIG DEAL. 

So, my question is:  since professional sport teams are based in big cities while universities can be found in small towns, does this translate into the average college sport fan being more conservative than the average professional sport fan?


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: Username MechaRFK on October 15, 2011, 11:30:33 AM
Bumping this thread for some thoughts on how sports fan vote.

NFL: Republican. Mostly since white macho men are the target audience and the sport doesn't attract many liberal types to the sport.

NBA: Democratic since minority's are the target audience for the sport. Though like all sports, this one has many conservative leaning people as it's fan base.


NHL: Republican/Conservative. All the NHL fans I know of are big Stephen Harper supporters that hate the NDP and few Republicans that have negative opinions of Barack Obama. Also, most of this group idealize Don Cherry, the xenophobia European hating support the troops commentator/former head coach.

MLB: Republican since old white males are the biggest consumers and the sports nationalist ways of promoting the game.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: Lucius Quintus Cincinatus Lamar on October 16, 2011, 11:02:43 AM
National Media Research did a study on this in 2008.  They found:

PGA went R +50
College football R +45
NASCAR R+40
NHL R+30
College Basketball R+15
NFL R+10
MLB R+5
Men's Tennis D+20
Major League Soccer D+40
Women's tennis D+55
NBA D+60
WNBA D+99

Other (possibly) surprising results, while drag racing (R+25) and motorcross (R+15) skewed Republican, Grand-Am racing (D+10), monster trucks (D+15) and WWE (D+60) skewed Democrat, pro-"wrasslin" very much so.

I also agree with Rockefeller, college football is a much better sport than NFL. It is much more passionate.  That is why only 4 NFL teams have a higher average attendance than the average SEC team and no NFL team has a higher average attendance than Tennessee, Georgia, LSU, Alabama, Florida or Auburn.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: Nichlemn on October 16, 2011, 11:09:50 AM
National Media Research did a study on this in 2008.  They found:

PGA went R +50
College football R +45
NASCAR R+40
NHL R+30
College Basketball R+15
NFL R+10
MLB R+5
Men's Tennis D+20
Major League Soccer D+40
Women's tennis D+55
NBA D+60
WNBA D+99

Other (possibly) surprising results, while drag racing (R+25) and motorcross (R+15) skewed Republican, Grand-Am racing (D+10), monster trucks (D+15) and WWE (D+60) skewed Democrat, pro-"wrasslin" very much so.

I also agree with Rockefeller, college football is a much better sport than NFL. It is much more passionate.  That is why only 4 NFL teams have a higher average attendance than the average SEC team and no NFL team has a higher average attendance than Tennessee, Georgia, LSU, Alabama, Florida or Auburn.

Link?


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: Nichlemn on October 16, 2011, 11:19:39 AM
I'm curious about the college sports phemenon. It just doesn't exist to any real degree in NZ (and I think not many other places outside the USA). Personally, I think the concept of "student athletes" is dumb. Why unnecessarily bundle half a sociology degree with high level sports?


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: Lucius Quintus Cincinatus Lamar on October 16, 2011, 11:20:12 AM
National Media Research did a study on this in 2008.  They found:

PGA went R +50
College football R +45
NASCAR R+40
NHL R+30
College Basketball R+15
NFL R+10
MLB R+5
Men's Tennis D+20
Major League Soccer D+40
Women's tennis D+55
NBA D+60
WNBA D+99

Other (possibly) surprising results, while drag racing (R+25) and motorcross (R+15) skewed Republican, Grand-Am racing (D+10), monster trucks (D+15) and WWE (D+60) skewed Democrat, pro-"wrasslin" very much so.

I also agree with Rockefeller, college football is a much better sport than NFL. It is much more passionate.  That is why only 4 NFL teams have a higher average attendance than the average SEC team and no NFL team has a higher average attendance than Tennessee, Georgia, LSU, Alabama, Florida or Auburn.

Link?

My bad

http://nmrpp.com/assets/NMRPPsportspolitics.pdf (http://nmrpp.com/assets/NMRPPsportspolitics.pdf)


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: Lucius Quintus Cincinatus Lamar on October 16, 2011, 11:33:52 AM
I'm curious about the college sports phemenon. It just doesn't exist to any real degree in NZ (and I think not many other places outside the USA). Personally, I think the concept of "student athletes" is dumb. Why unnecessarily bundle half a sociology degree with high level sports?

Some of the programs, particularly football, makes ridiculous amounts of money for the schools.  I prefer college to pro because college athletes choose which school they want to attend and therefore (at least in theory) have more of a connection to the school and fellow players than a pro athlete who pretty much goes to the highest bidder.  Also, generally schools have a higher percentage of athletes from the state in which it is located.  So the University of Alabama's football team is much more representative of the state of Alabama than the New York Giant's football team is representative of the state of New York.

I also like the whole student athlete/amateur athlete (if you could really say college football players are "amateur") to pro athletes.  Amateur athletes show more dedication in that they have to make time for and sacrifice more for their sports compared to pro athletes who do it full time.

Are there not any college sports in NZ?  Track, rugby, gymnastics, rowing, etc?  I've always thought athletics was considered an integral part of a classical education.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: Hatman 🍁 on October 16, 2011, 11:43:25 AM
There's some college sports in Canada, but it's not as big as in the US (not even close).  However, the love of watching youth athletes is still there though, as junior hockey is quite popular.


NHL: Republican/Conservative. All the NHL fans I know of are big Stephen Harper supporters that hate the NDP and few Republicans that have negative opinions of Barack Obama. Also, most of this group idealize Don Cherry, the xenophobia European hating support the troops commentator/former head coach.


I can tell you there are still NDP hockey fans out there, and of course who cannot forget the iconic picture of Jack Layton in Habs jersey with a beer from the last election? Also, the return of the Jets helped the NDP win another provincial election in Manitoba.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: Nichlemn on October 16, 2011, 08:08:57 PM
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Some of the programs, particularly football, makes ridiculous amounts of money for the schools.

Without paying the athletes. Nice.

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 I prefer college to pro because college athletes choose which school they want to attend and therefore (at least in theory) have more of a connection to the school and fellow players than a pro athlete who pretty much goes to the highest bidder.  Also, generally schools have a higher percentage of athletes from the state in which it is located.  So the University of Alabama's football team is much more representative of the state of Alabama than the New York Giant's football team is representative of the state of New York.

I also like the whole student athlete/amateur athlete (if you could really say college football players are "amateur") to pro athletes.  Amateur athletes show more dedication in that they have to make time for and sacrifice more for their sports compared to pro athletes who do it full time.

Then why not have some kind of "amateur league" that replicates college football entirely except the athletes don't need to do a college degree?

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Are there not any college sports in NZ?  Track, rugby, gymnastics, rowing, etc?  I've always thought athletics was considered an integral part of a classical education.

They exist, but they're not followed much more than children's teams.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: Lucius Quintus Cincinatus Lamar on October 16, 2011, 10:39:26 PM
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Some of the programs, particularly football, makes ridiculous amounts of money for the schools.

Without paying the athletes. Nice.

Though it is not a perfect system, big time college football programs "pay" their students room, board and tuition, worth at least $40k/year, which would be similar to minor league professional baseball.  Considering a college grad in the US makes over $2 million more during their lifetime than a non-grad, for the vast majority of college athletes who never go pro, it is a pretty good deal.

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Then why not have some kind of "amateur league" that replicates college football entirely except the athletes don't need to do a college degree?

It's possible, but universities are the only viable infrastructure for such an attraction.  The school I went to has a 60,000 seat stadium for a university of only 10,000 students in a town of only 10,000 people.  Outside a university setting, no one would be able to afford the stadium, coaches, equipment, medical staff, travel costs, etc.

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Are there not any college sports in NZ?  Track, rugby, gymnastics, rowing, etc?  I've always thought athletics was considered an integral part of a classical education.

They exist, but they're not followed much more than children's teams.
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Personally, I love high school and elementary school sports.  In fact, I generally prefer them to professional teams.  You need to remember only a small percentage of colleges in the US have major athletic programs.  Most have programs that are probably similar to what you are use to in New Zealand.  In the state in which I live, we have 10-15 colleges/universities, but only 2-3 with big time athletic programs.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: Username MechaRFK on November 20, 2011, 01:57:47 PM
Any New Yorker and New Englenders that have any idea on how New York and Boston sport teams vote in their area. I tend to see teams that have an older more white fanbase such as the Giants to have Republican leaning since they are the stereotype old white male that usually helps them win elections.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on November 22, 2011, 02:33:04 AM
Any New Yorker and New Englenders that have any idea on how New York and Boston sport teams vote in their area. I tend to see teams that have an older more white fanbase such as the Giants to have Republican leaning since they are the stereotype old white male that usually helps them win elections.

They all vote Democratic.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: Username MechaRFK on November 23, 2011, 05:34:33 PM
Any New Yorker and New Englenders that have any idea on how New York and Boston sport teams vote in their area. I tend to see teams that have an older more white fanbase such as the Giants to have Republican leaning since they are the stereotype old white male that usually helps them win elections.
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They all vote Democratic.

What makes you think that besides that it's the Northeast?


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: Nichlemn on November 23, 2011, 08:18:48 PM
Any New Yorker and New Englenders that have any idea on how New York and Boston sport teams vote in their area. I tend to see teams that have an older more white fanbase such as the Giants to have Republican leaning since they are the stereotype old white male that usually helps them win elections.
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They all vote Democratic.

What makes you think that besides that it's the Northeast?

New York and Boston are so Democratic that even if their sports teams have substantially more Republican fan bases, it's still unlikely to make them Republican overall.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: Napoleon on November 24, 2011, 03:42:22 PM
Which fan base do you think is more Republican? Giants or Jets? 49ers or Raiders? Yankees or Mets?


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: Username MechaRFK on November 24, 2011, 06:05:31 PM
Which fan base do you think is more Republican? Giants or Jets? 49ers or Raiders? Yankees or Mets?


Giants

Raiders

Yankees


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: traininthedistance on November 29, 2011, 04:12:52 AM
Which fan base do you think is more Republican? Giants or Jets? 49ers or Raiders? Yankees or Mets?


Giants

Raiders

Yankees

I would actually guess that the Jets and Mets are more likely to be Republican.  If you take a look at the geographic distribution of Giants vs. Jets fans and Yankees vs. Mets fans (and the two splits are very similar), the Jets/Mets have more of a base in Long Island, whereas the Giants/Yankees dominate Manhattan, Westchester and north.  (New Jersey, where I grew up, is more of a mix, with the Giants and Yankees dominating but not by that much).  And LI seems to me more blue-collar and swingy than Manhattan/Westchester, which is solid liberal even in the rich parts. 

Also, for Giants vs. Jets another thing to keep in mind is that in addition to geography age is a factor.  The really old folks are Giants fans, because that's all there was.  A lot of the younger Boomers, a really conservative demographic, came of age when the Giants were horrible and the Jets had won more recently (SB III), so they're more likely to be Jets fans.  But then you have my generation, which grew up with the Bill Parcells glory years (or just past them) and became Giants fans- and we're one of the more liberal cohorts. 

Okay, maybe I'm assuming that Giants fans are more liberal because I'm a liberal and a Giants fan and I'm just projecting.  But I really think the analysis holds.

I think you're definitely right that the Raiders have more conservative fans, though.

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I agree with the general sentiment that sports fans, in general, are going to be more conservative than the population at large, for many reasons.  Even hockey, which might be popular in the colder "blue" cities, because its fanbase is also much whiter than that of most sports.   And college sports fans are way, way, more conservative than pro sports fans, because of the urban/rural divide, appeals to "tradition", and historic base in the South.  The average football fan is definitely conservative, but the NFL is almost even, and found almost everywhere, whereas college football is probably about as Republican as golf, and as ignored in the Northeast as NASCAR.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: Napoleon on November 29, 2011, 04:32:07 AM
Good first post! Stick around here. :)

P.S. liberal Jets fan right here.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: Username MechaRFK on November 29, 2011, 05:11:48 PM




Red Wings or Tigers?

traininthedistance, do you think that most sports fans conservative because they tend to be white males or is it because of the jock culture in sports?


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: traininthedistance on November 29, 2011, 10:44:22 PM
What about these teams?

Bruins or Patriots?

Red Wings or Tigers?

traininthedistance, do you think that most sports fans conservative because they tend to be white males or is it because of the jock culture in sports?

A little bit of both, but mainly the first.  Men follow sports more than women do; men are more conservative as a whole; that would be sufficient to account for much of the disparity right there.  There are cultural factors beyond that, though: a lot of sports, or at least sports as they're presented in the media, tend to be suffused with the sorts of values and behaviors (conventional masculinity, showy patriotism, military metaphors) more associated with conservatives. A lot of players tend to be really openly religious, as well.  On the flip side, you also definitely have some liberals who have negative associations with sports in general because they consider it conformist, consumerist, and (hopefully this is getting better over time) homophobic.  It's more complicated that just "jock culture", but "culture" in general is definitely a factor.

I have no idea on Bruins v. Patriots or Red Wings v. Tigers.  If I had to guess, I'd say that the Red Wings are more conservative than the Tigers because hockey's fan base is probably the whitest of the big four team sports, but I could be off base regarding hockey culture, about which I know little.  I'm not sure this analysis holds in New England, though, because that area of the country is just so white, and has a much more liberal white population, that any such effect would be minimal.

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I'm also going to go out on a limb and say that the sports league whose American fanbase is most likely to be full of white liberals is the EPL.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: Indy Prez on December 02, 2011, 03:39:26 PM
American Football is the sport which best reflects the competitive three-branches US government

ergo, our current situation

Offense (House)
Defense (President)
Specials (Senate)

I'd call it a swing-sport


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: Username MechaRFK on January 02, 2012, 09:59:08 PM
American Football is the sport which best reflects the competitive three-branches US government

ergo, our current situation

Offense (House)
Defense (President)
Specials (Senate)

I'd call it a swing-sport



LOL


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: Guderian on January 03, 2012, 04:30:18 PM
Which fan base do you think is more Republican? Giants or Jets? 49ers or Raiders? Yankees or Mets?

Yankees v. Mets

I agree that geography tells us that Mets fans are probably more Republican. But something tells me that it's much closer than you might think at first. I know 3-4 NYC Jews (Democrats, of course), all of them Mets fans. Apparently, Jews supported (overwhelmingly) Brooklyn Dodgers and remained NL fans when Mets franchise was founded. There is ton of celebrity Jewish Mets fans - Philip Roth, Jerry Seinfeld, Elena Kagan and many other I can't remember right now. OTOH, every Italian I have met from NY metro area is a Yankee fan and I think most of them are Republicans or at least right-leaning.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: Username MechaRFK on January 22, 2012, 10:40:13 PM
Gianrs or Patriots?


Which team has the more liberal fan base out of the two?


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: Lief 🗽 on February 04, 2012, 01:32:23 AM
Gianrs or Patriots?


Which team has the more liberal fan base out of the two?

PPP did a national poll asking this question, I'm sure the crosstabs could tell us.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: Vermin Supreme on February 23, 2012, 04:44:11 PM
I'm a die hard fan of skateboarding and surfing,  my guess on how they vote would probably be strong Democratic-Indie voting patterns with the rest not voting or caring at all.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: Indy Texas on March 04, 2012, 09:45:20 PM
College Football: strongly Republican (fans likely have a college degree from a large state school, live in the South or the Midwest - all things that point to voting Republican)

NFL Football: leans Republican (largely reflects the makeup of a given city's fanbase: i.e. Dallas Cowboys fans are probably more Republican than Detroit Lions fans)

College Basketball: strong Democratic (basketball schools tend to be situated along the East Coast, basketball's general fanbase is disproportionately African-American)

NBA Basketball: strong Democratic (NBA viewership is heavily non-white)

Baseball: 50/50 split (fanbase tends to be whiter and more affluent, but you also have huge followings in liberal cities like Boston and NYC)

Hockey: leans Democratic (basically a Rust Belt/Upper Midwest sport; overwhelmingly white, leans toward middle- and working-class)

Golf: strong Republican (older, upscale white male fanbase)

Tennis: leans Republican (upscale white following)

MMA: 50/50 split (18-35yo male following; primarily white & Hispanic fanbase; lower end up the spectrum as far as income and education levels)

NASCAR: strong Republican (Southern, rural white fanbase)


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: Indy Texas on March 04, 2012, 09:50:42 PM
Bush won the election at Wrigley Field in 2004 over Kerry. The fans voted as they entered the gates.

Well I'd assume Bush would have won the fans who could afford to buy tickets to the actual game as opposed to those watching at home.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: Vermin Supreme on March 05, 2012, 05:30:58 PM
I'm a die hard fan of skateboarding and surfing,  my guess on how they vote would probably be strong Democratic-Indie voting patterns with the rest not voting or caring at all.


Anyone got any clue on this demographic?


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: I'm JewCon in name only. on March 05, 2012, 09:00:08 PM
I'm a die hard fan of skateboarding and surfing,  my guess on how they vote would probably be strong Democratic-Indie voting patterns with the rest not voting or caring at all.


Anyone got any clue on this demographic?

Democrats.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: traininthedistance on March 21, 2012, 02:19:06 PM
Okay, the Giants now definitely have the more liberal fanbase, now that the Jets have traded for Tim "who needs to complete 50 percent of your passes when you have Jesus" Tebow.  A lot of born-agains all over the country just became Jets fans, and I wouldn't be surprised if a few liberal Jets fans switched teams to Jersey/A.

Gianrs or Patriots?


Which team has the more liberal fan base out of the two?

I honestly have no idea!  New England is probably a little more liberal than the NY metro area, but the Pats also have a national fanbase because they've been so good for the past decade.  Both teams are going to have more conservative fanbases than the metro area as a whole, but I suspect without much concrete evidence that the disparity is greater for the Pats.


Title: Re: How do certain sports fans vote?
Post by: traininthedistance on March 21, 2012, 03:31:50 PM
Okay, the Giants now definitely have the more liberal fanbase, now that the Jets have traded for Tim "who needs to complete 50 percent of your passes when you have Jesus" Tebow.  A lot of born-agains all over the country just became Jets fans, and I wouldn't be surprised if a few liberal Jets fans switched teams to Jersey/A.

Gianrs or Patriots?


Which team has the more liberal fan base out of the two?

I honestly have no idea!  New England is probably a little more liberal than the NY metro area, but the Pats also have a national fanbase because they've been so good for the past decade.  Both teams are going to have more conservative fanbases than the metro area as a whole, but I suspect without much concrete evidence that the disparity is greater for the Pats.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/55918/tebow-time-hits-snag-in-new-york

Never mind what I just said!