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Title: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on July 19, 2009, 01:59:22 AM
Let's get this thing started:

Look for the left's response to any thread over the past five years asking if we should invade Iran.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: King on July 19, 2009, 02:04:50 AM
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Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on July 19, 2009, 02:10:58 AM
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I win?


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: King on July 19, 2009, 03:54:05 AM
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Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Franzl on July 19, 2009, 07:18:54 AM
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Do I win?


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on July 27, 2009, 03:07:55 PM
Why the heck would a minor not be allowed to pump gas?  Heck, I pumped gas in our family car when I was like 10 - back when it used to be fun.  Now I'd rather stay in the car than get out and do it (especially when it's freezing cold).

Er, don't you listen to the global warming proponents?  They will tell you that "freezing cold" is something from the past, and if you believe you are experiencing it, then you're some kind of nut.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Ban my account ffs! on July 27, 2009, 05:35:47 PM
Why the heck would a minor not be allowed to pump gas?  Heck, I pumped gas in our family car when I was like 10 - back when it used to be fun.  Now I'd rather stay in the car than get out and do it (especially when it's freezing cold).

Er, don't you listen to the global warming proponents?  They will tell you that "freezing cold" is something from the past, and if you believe you are experiencing it, then you're some kind of nut.

I love it when conservatives try to use sarcasm as a means of humor.  Rather than coming across as funny, they just come across as mean, hateful, and ignorant.

Now do I win?


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: paul718 on July 27, 2009, 05:47:10 PM
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straw -- man

victory


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Alcon on July 27, 2009, 06:14:50 PM

So, by that, you mean you want to club seals to death, or just enough to put them in their goddamn place?


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Queen Mum Inks.LWC on July 27, 2009, 09:03:02 PM

That's a scarecrow you f****ing idiot! :P


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on August 11, 2009, 01:28:17 AM
God gave us this land, now we want to give it away to these monsters?

God given land my arse!  You know for well that land actually belongs to the Palestinians, and if anything its the Israeli government who're the monsters for being arrogant enough to deny that!

But, seeing as Israel isn't going anywhere soon, its government could have the good sense to withdraw back to the intended 1948 boundaries and accept and recognise the presence of a fully independent Palestinian state.  For one thing, Israel's Arab neighbours might be somewhat less pissed off at the aforementioned.

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Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Lunar on August 11, 2009, 04:08:28 AM
that map is surprisingly incomplete too


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: ?????????? on August 11, 2009, 05:41:41 AM
that map is surprisingly incomplete too

Yes, it doesn't include France, England or Germany.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Lunar on August 11, 2009, 06:08:57 AM
Like, I'm currently living in the world's largest Muslim country, I believe both geographically and population wise, and it's about 90% Muslim, but I don't see that there, nor parts of Southeastern Europe or elsewhere from Bangladesh to Northern Nigeria that would further emphasize the map's claims...namely that the "Muslim World" if such a thing exists, is frickin' huge compared to Israel.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Brittain33 on August 11, 2009, 11:16:12 AM
that map is surprisingly incomplete too

Clearly Israel should sign a defense pact with Gambia.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on August 11, 2009, 11:56:39 PM
Kind of too easy, but:

Why is it when americans riot agianst stupid government-controlled insurance and healthcare, idiot statist liberals consider this group a mob orchestrated from insurance companies,especially when this is happening around the country, when some are democrats, when some are asking good questions(maybe a little without them yelling but other than that) ahd libs can't even ask a sincere question?

But when a black conservative from St Louise gets beat up by bunch of union mobs and when an old lady gets pushed up against a wall by more union mobs, and when a guy gets his shirt ripped open and chest cut, that's just OK, right?

If it's anything, it's these trade union jerks being orchestrated by probably liberal politicians and if not by politicians, Obama and libs politicians certainly ain't really doing anything to help out it.

SO, WHO'S THE MOB?


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on August 13, 2009, 01:47:31 AM

What a bunch of neo-LIBS.  You complained for years about government monitoring the citizens (those that were suspected of potentially attacking the US or supporting those that would) and now you're all gungho.  "It's wrong unless we do it."  That's all I'm hearing from you.  I guess it's a good thing that you are showing your true colors.  ::)


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on August 15, 2009, 07:35:02 PM
No, no.  When it falls it will be the fault of 60 year old chubby women in Des Moines screaming at an official nobody has ever heard of.



...and Bush.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 03, 2009, 11:17:12 PM
nukes are teh evil, 100% every time, nothing will change the mind of the close minded anti-war crusader


(although some of them think Iran should have them....just for balance of course)


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 06, 2009, 12:17:05 PM
Correct, because the left....NO...not "the left"....what do you guys want to be called anyway?  Let me start over...

Correct because the people opposite of the "right wingers" are willing to throw minorities under the bus to make the govt bigger and they don't see a problem with this.
We are all in the Klan and hate everybody that isn't a WASP, what do you expect?  You "opposite rightwingers" are supposed to be better than that.  You're the ones that think Affirmative Action isn't a racist policy.  You're the ones that thought bussing kids all over town was a good idea.  You're the ones that call any black guy to the right of you an Uncle Tom as if that's not an insult when someone as openminded as "opposite rightwingers" use it.

But hey, it's not easy to wash away a hundred and fifty years of over the top racism with 40 years of subtle, sympathetic racism.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: dead0man on September 06, 2009, 03:37:49 PM
Awww, somebody has a crush.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 06, 2009, 06:23:04 PM
I call it like it is.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: King on September 07, 2009, 04:41:07 PM
I liked this thread better when we played hangman


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 07, 2009, 04:49:26 PM
I liked this thread better when we played hangman

Yeah, it was less depressing.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 10, 2009, 09:17:19 PM
Now lets see who comes in to defend this asshat or the PRC.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 17, 2009, 08:01:39 PM
All these stupid charges of racism are just getting ridiculous.  Unless you have PROOF that his comment was racist, don't claim it as such.  And I don't mean proof by his past - I mean proof as in for this circumstance.

Don't you know?  You're racist just for questioning Johnson's accusation of Wilson! 


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on October 18, 2009, 01:47:19 PM
It doesn't matter what our own political leanings are, we all must remember liberals are our betters.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on December 01, 2009, 09:06:03 PM
Ahhh geez.  Color me embarassed.  But come on....it was so important I mentioned it once...in a list.  How many times did I mention Korea?  Ahh, that's not important.  I mentioned Putin once so clearly the entire reason I'm against signing is Russia.  Excellent job as usual BRTD!


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on December 12, 2009, 03:25:44 PM
If this happened before the Obama presidency and it consisted of protesters pretending to be killed in a war, you'd consider it to be brilliant.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Alcon on December 12, 2009, 05:24:25 PM
If this happened before the Obama presidency and it consisted of protesters pretending to be killed in a war, you'd consider it to be brilliant.

not technically a strawman fallacy

which, in itself, means you just technically committed a strawman fallacy


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on December 12, 2009, 05:44:07 PM
yes, because that is an economic policy that has worked before and did not result in an even worse economic downturn.

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Yes, government intervention works SO well ::)


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: k-onmmunist on December 12, 2009, 05:45:44 PM
Not a strawman. Try again.

Also, make sure to post the many strawmen you and Lief have posted over the years. I'm sure that'd keep you busy.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on December 12, 2009, 05:48:24 PM
Not a strawman. Try again.

Also, make sure to post the many strawmen you and Lief have posted over the years. I'm sure that'd keep you busy.

Why don't you entertain us with a couple? Since you say there are so many, they should be easy to find!


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: k-onmmunist on December 12, 2009, 05:50:21 PM
Not a strawman. Try again.

Also, make sure to post the many strawmen you and Lief have posted over the years. I'm sure that'd keep you busy.

Why don't you entertain us with a couple? Since you say there are so many, they should be easy to find!

You actually posted one before I allegedly posted one. I don't support economic policies that 'cause worse downturns'


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on December 12, 2009, 05:51:24 PM
Not a strawman. Try again.

Also, make sure to post the many strawmen you and Lief have posted over the years. I'm sure that'd keep you busy.

Why don't you entertain us with a couple? Since you say there are so many, they should be easy to find!

You actually posted one before I allegedly posted one. I don't support economic policies that 'cause worse downturns'

Try something that's not actually true.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: k-onmmunist on December 12, 2009, 05:53:36 PM
Not a strawman. Try again.

Also, make sure to post the many strawmen you and Lief have posted over the years. I'm sure that'd keep you busy.

Why don't you entertain us with a couple? Since you say there are so many, they should be easy to find!

You actually posted one before I allegedly posted one. I don't support economic policies that 'cause worse downturns'

Try something that's not actually true.

None of what you or Lief the Hack have said about government intervention has been true. Ever.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Boris on December 12, 2009, 06:12:59 PM
None of what you or Lief the Hack have said about government intervention has been true. Ever.

see man, this is what I was talking about when I was drunk. There has to be something better to do at 11 PM on a Saturday Night in freakin' Manchester than simply engaging in bitchfights with people you've never met thousands of miles away. And that's what it is; bitchfighting. There's no analysis, no mathematical models, simply reiterating "I'm right, and you're wrong," over and over again while hurling stupid insults. I don't see how you derive any utility from it at all. I'm just saying, in a couple of years (maybe less), you're going to really regret wasting your time on here.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on December 12, 2009, 06:18:04 PM
Winston's replies here are interestingly bring up a different logical fallacy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_lapidem


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: RI on December 12, 2009, 06:19:45 PM
Not a strawman. Try again.

Also, make sure to post the many strawmen you and Lief have posted over the years. I'm sure that'd keep you busy.

Why don't you entertain us with a couple? Since you say there are so many, they should be easy to find!

You actually posted one before I allegedly posted one. I don't support economic policies that 'cause worse downturns'

Try something that's not actually true.

None of what you or Lief the Hack have said about government intervention has been true. Ever.

Do you know anything about even rudimentary economic theory? A nation's real gross domestic product is a function of the equilibrium between that country's short term aggregate supply (up-sloping) and aggregate demand curves (down-sloping); this equilibrium determines the price level and the economic output of the nation. Aggregate demand is equal to the sum of consumption spending, investment spending, government spending, and net export revenue. Recessions can be caused in two major ways, by aggregate demand dropping, resulting in a loss in GDP and little, if any, inflation, or by a decline in aggregate supply, which causes the GDP to decrease in addition to the price level rising; this is also known as stagflation.

In most economic recessions, including this one, the culprit has been the former. Consumption spending by the public has declined, resulting in a decline in aggregate demand. Expansionary fiscal policy works by increasing government spending and/or lowering tax rates, which increasing the aggregate demand by increasing the amount of money available for consumption spending and therefore increasing the equilibrium gross domestic product. The newly available money goes to people who then spend a percentage according to their marginal propensity to consume. This new consumption goes to businesses who, in a climate like this with large amounts of idle capital and therefore has less incentive to invest, are able to hire more people and pay them. These people then spend and so on. This is called the multiplier effect.

Government spending has a larger multiplier effect than tax decreases because tax decreases are more likely to encourage saving over spending unlike government spending. Due to this, balanced budget surplueses can occur, but it also means that government spending is more effective at getting an economy out of a recession than cutting tax rates.

It can easily be argued whether or not the spending has been allocated correctly, or if enough has been spent, or the long term deficit issues, or any number of other issues, but to say that government spending could actually hurt a non-cost-push inflated economy is absurd.

And there is a reason why this is rudimentary economic theory: it has been tried and come through many times. World War II's investment and employment spending is probably the most commonly cited example, but there are many, many more.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: k-onmmunist on December 12, 2009, 06:20:17 PM
Winston's replies here are interestingly bring up a different logical fallacy:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_lapidem

Yup. So do they. Tough world eh?


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: k-onmmunist on December 12, 2009, 06:22:02 PM
None of what you or Lief the Hack have said about government intervention has been true. Ever.

see man, this is what I was talking about when I was drunk. There has to be something better to do at 11 PM on a Saturday Night in freakin' Manchester than simply engaging in bitchfights with people you've never met thousands of miles away. And that's what it is; bitchfighting. There's no analysis, no mathematical models, simply reiterating "I'm right, and you're wrong," over and over again while hurling stupid insults. I don't see how you derive any utility from it at all. I'm just saying, in a couple of years (maybe less), you're going to really regret wasting your time on here.

I regret it now. It's not worth arguing with these mindless drones.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on December 12, 2009, 06:23:09 PM
Not a strawman. Try again.

Also, make sure to post the many strawmen you and Lief have posted over the years. I'm sure that'd keep you busy.

Why don't you entertain us with a couple? Since you say there are so many, they should be easy to find!

You actually posted one before I allegedly posted one. I don't support economic policies that 'cause worse downturns'

Try something that's not actually true.

None of what you or Lief the Hack have said about government intervention has been true. Ever.

Do you know anything about even rudimentary economic theory? A nation's real gross domestic product is a function of the equilibrium between that country's short term aggregate supply (up-sloping) and aggregate demand curves (down-sloping); this equilibrium determines the price level and the economic output of the nation. Aggregate demand is equal to the sum of consumption spending, investment spending, government spending, and net export revenue. Recessions can be caused in two major ways, by aggregate demand dropping, resulting in a loss in GDP and little, if any, inflation, or by a decline in aggregate supply, which causes the GDP to decrease in addition to the price level rising; this is also known as stagflation.

In most economic recessions, including this one, the culprit has been the former. Consumption spending by the public has declined, resulting in a decline in aggregate demand. Expansionary fiscal policy works by increasing government spending and/or lowering tax rates, which increasing the aggregate demand by increasing the amount of money available for consumption spending and therefore increasing the equilibrium gross domestic product. The newly available money goes to people who then spend a percentage according to their marginal propensity to consume. This new consumption goes to businesses who, in a climate like this with large amounts of idle capital and therefore has less incentive to invest, are able to hire more people and pay them. These people then spend and so on. This is called the multiplier effect.

Government spending has a larger multiplier effect than tax decreases because tax decreases are more likely to encourage saving over spending unlike government spending. Due to this, balanced budget surplueses can occur, but it also means that government spending is more effective at getting an economy out of a recession than cutting tax rates.

It can easily be argued whether or not the spending has been allocated correctly, or if enough has been spent, or the long term deficit issues, or any number of other issues, but to say that government spending could actually hurt a non-cost-push inflated economy is absurd.

And there is a reason why this is rudimentary economic theory: it has been tried and come through many times. World War II's investment and employment spending is probably the most commonly cited example, but there are many, many more.

I'm in love.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: k-onmmunist on December 12, 2009, 06:24:46 PM
Shame that he based that post on theory and not on fact. I mean MARXISM works in theory.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on December 12, 2009, 06:29:12 PM
Also, at least I hold my views out of principle rather than out of actual real life circumstances like you do, Mr Handout.

Also, you've done it again. Congratulations. You're the most accomplished attention whore I've ever seen.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: k-onmmunist on December 12, 2009, 06:30:19 PM
Learn what those words mean before you say them, fucktard.

You know what Boris? You're right. Screw this, I'm off to watch a movie.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on December 12, 2009, 07:11:58 PM
I see Winston will be ignoring realisticidealist's post that totally owned him.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: k-onmmunist on December 12, 2009, 08:18:04 PM
I see Winston will be ignoring realisticidealist's post that totally owned him.

Already pointed out. Based on theory.

Means bugger all.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Franzl on December 12, 2009, 08:27:53 PM
Shame that he based that post on theory and not on fact. I mean MARXISM works in theory.

Also, at least I hold my views out of principle rather than out of actual real life circumstances like you do, Mr Handout.

Anybody else notice the self-contradiction? LOL.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on December 12, 2009, 08:28:57 PM
I see Winston will be ignoring realisticidealist's post that totally owned him.

Already pointed out. Based on theory.

Means bugger all.

Theory that has been validated countless times in the past century throughout the world.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Joe Republic on December 12, 2009, 08:40:32 PM
That was a short movie.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: JohnFKennedy on December 12, 2009, 08:46:59 PM
I see Winston will be ignoring realisticidealist's post that totally owned him.

Already pointed out. Based on theory.

Means bugger all.

Given that no two events are ever the same - in economics or any other aspect of history - how can any argument not be based on some sort of theory? Do you honestly think your own beliefs are grounded solely in 'fact'?


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on December 12, 2009, 09:00:52 PM
I see Winston will be ignoring realisticidealist's post that totally owned him.

Already pointed out. Based on theory.

Means bugger all.

Given that no two events are ever the same - in economics or any other aspect of history - how can any argument not be based on some sort of theory? Do you honestly think your own beliefs are grounded solely in 'fact'?

He holds his views out of principle rather than out of actual real life circumstances.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Franzl on December 13, 2009, 02:57:04 AM
He holds his views out of principle rather than out of actual real life circumstances.

But then faulted realisticidealist for using "theory" instead of "practice".


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: k-onmmunist on December 13, 2009, 05:29:43 AM
I meant personal real life circumstances. Stop trying to trip me up.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Franzl on December 13, 2009, 08:35:56 AM
I meant personal real life circumstances. Stop trying to trip me up.

No need for that, you do it to yourself pretty darn well.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: k-onmmunist on December 13, 2009, 08:40:14 AM
I meant personal real life circumstances. Stop trying to trip me up.

No need for that, you do it to yourself pretty darn well.

No, I was simply making an argument. One which he hasn't replied to.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Franzl on December 13, 2009, 08:46:39 AM
I meant personal real life circumstances. Stop trying to trip me up.

No need for that, you do it to yourself pretty darn well.

No, I was simply making an argument. One which he hasn't replied to.

Forgive me, but I didn't see an "argument" anywhere.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Vepres on December 13, 2009, 06:45:26 PM
I'm probably the fourth or fifth most libertarian person, if not in the top three, active in fantasy politics.

wow


lol

Yeah, Vepres idea of libertarianism is "I don't have to stand up for what I say I believe in when the chips fall and my political friends are circling the wagons against it."


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on March 19, 2010, 05:32:40 PM
No no no, it's all Israel's fault that racist Muslims (note I didn't say or suggest all or even most Muslims were racists) kill Americans because we support Israel.  It makes perfect sense.  Just like it was England's fault when racist Germans killed Americans before we entered WWII because we supported England at the time.


GODWIN'd!


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: segwaystyle2012 on March 19, 2010, 06:49:22 PM
Lol at Vepres' post above.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on April 13, 2010, 05:45:16 PM
Very true! Noted foreign policy experts Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck agree with you.

More like noted foreign policy experts like Charles Krautheimer (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/04/02/slapping_friends_105025.html), Robert Kagan (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/16/AR2010031603322.html) and Mark Steyn (http://www.ocregister.com/articles/obama-242307-elegant-president.html), among others.

But it's always just those no-do-gooders Sarah Palin and Glen Beck who notice Obama's faults.  Or those who do are just racists.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on April 13, 2010, 07:03:09 PM
Yeah, citing Krauthammer is going of the deep end.

We must always support Obama and his policies lest we go off the deep end!


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: dead0man on April 15, 2010, 10:58:09 PM


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on May 19, 2010, 07:25:58 PM
The idea that Libertas cares about freedom is as absurd as saying that any of the Dixiecrats who filibustered the 1964 Act cared about freedom.  It's BS, designed to not make him appear to be the racist that he is.

Yeah, just like how anybody who doesn't support Israel is antisemitic.  Hurr

On a side note, Morgan's habit of saying "Hurr" and "Durr" is incredibly grating.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Shilly on May 19, 2010, 08:26:33 PM
The idea that Libertas cares about freedom is as absurd as saying that any of the Dixiecrats who filibustered the 1964 Act cared about freedom.  It's BS, designed to not make him appear to be the racist that he is.

Yeah, just like how anybody who doesn't support Israel is antisemitic.  Hurr

On a side note, Morgan's habit of saying "Hurr" and "Durr" is incredibly grating.
His posts are grating in general.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on May 19, 2010, 08:31:38 PM
On a side note, Morgan's habit of saying "Hurr" and "Durr" is incredibly grating.

I assume it is Morgan, and not I, that is getting the "credit" for this?


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on May 19, 2010, 08:37:17 PM
On a side note, Morgan's habit of saying "Hurr" and "Durr" is incredibly grating.

I assume it is Morgan, and not I, that is getting the "credit" for this?

Yeah.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Badger on May 19, 2010, 11:10:50 PM
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Two Republicans - Maine Sens. Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe - voted with the Democrats.

The GOP better primary these pieces of sh**t if they expect to be taken seriously as a party of fiscal sanity rather than being bankster puppets like Dodd.

That might make an ounce of sense if the banks weren't fighting this reform like all hell.

One more reason giant corporations would fear a Libertarian government just like Brer Rabbit fears getting thrown into the briar patch.

LOL!

The whole point of this bill is to further empower the banks and the Fed to manipulate our economy.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on May 19, 2010, 11:14:17 PM
You might as well just post this: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?action=profile;u=3575;sa=showPosts


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on May 19, 2010, 11:22:43 PM
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Two Republicans - Maine Sens. Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe - voted with the Democrats.

The GOP better primary these pieces of sh**t if they expect to be taken seriously as a party of fiscal sanity rather than being bankster puppets like Dodd.

That might make an ounce of sense if the banks weren't fighting this reform like all hell.

One more reason giant corporations would fear a Libertarian government just like Brer Rabbit fears getting thrown into the briar patch.

LOL!

The whole point of this bill is to further empower the banks and the Fed to manipulate our economy.

You find humor in the truth?


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Vepres on May 22, 2010, 07:02:04 AM
So, Rand has picked on black people, the disabled... Has he attacked the gays yet? That's still a winning strategy in Kentucky.

There's no federal pretection of gays to protest. Maybe he could attack women's sufferage...or demand that the descendants of slaveowners be repaid the value of their slaves because they were unjustly taken away by the evil federal government.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on August 22, 2010, 03:59:20 PM
Free speech only applies to my viewpoint!  I think all media should be government-controlled, so that only my viewpoint can be expressed on television!


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: tpfkaw on August 22, 2010, 04:13:37 PM
It's not a strawman if it's true.

I don't think anyone is suggesting Fox News be shut down (probably unconstitutional anyway, and since cable bandwidth is unlimited, it is immune from a Dem fairness doctrine attack anyway). I actually think there is some value in having an assortment of hyper partisan media. So why don't we just stipulate that Fox News is an RNC partisan shill operation and move on?

The problem is that under the current system ('private' ownership of media) only right-wing viewpoints can be heard.  If the media is entirely owned by the ruling class we will never hear any representation of the opinions or interests of the masses (except of course as those opinions benefit the rulers).

In other words the problem is the entire system, in which 'freedom of speech' is impossible, not just FOX news.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on August 22, 2010, 05:28:32 PM
Do you know what the definition of a straw man argument is?


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: tpfkaw on August 22, 2010, 05:55:44 PM
Yes, I know what a strawman is.  A strawman is when one presents a completely different, and easier to attack, position from the one that someone is arguing.  For example, if I had posted that and the thread had merely been an argument over whether or not Fox News/the media in general has a political bias, then it would be a strawman.  However, since I was simply rephrasing the exact same position that someone was taking, it's not a strawman.  Parody, yes, strawman, no.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on August 25, 2010, 04:46:59 PM
I'm sorry for coming up with such a ridiculous strawman.  The Democrats would come up with far more sensible things than what I proposed, such as giving teachers' unions more generous Viagra coverage and creating American jobs by teaching Chinese prostitutes to drink responsibly.  And yes, the Republicans, especially the squeezy liberal Mike Castle/Lisa Murkowski type, often come up with equally stupid things, which is part of the reason why I'm not a blue avatar.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Mechaman on August 26, 2010, 09:47:27 PM
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Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 04, 2010, 01:53:19 AM
I'm going to go rob an old lady.  You see, the laws pertaining to robbing old ladies are really open to creative interpretation beyond their original intent.  After all, I have really good reasons to rob that old lady, and she's a cranky old coot anyway.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 08, 2010, 01:49:50 AM
Are you implying that the only people with a "legitimate ideology" support an interventionist foreign policy?  Because if so, you've reached the pinnacle of arrogant hackery right there.

Not at all.  I'm saying that neoconservativism is a legitimate ideology.

I'm not exactly sure what an "illegitimate" ideology would entail.  Neoconism is an idiotic ideology.  An idiotic, legitimate, idiotic ideology.

Careful now.  Supporting a non-interventionist foreign policy is tantamount to worshiping Hitler.

Are you implying that the only people with a "legitimate ideology" support an interventionist foreign policy?  Because if so, you've reached the pinnacle of arrogant hackery right there.

Not at all.  I'm saying that neoconservativism is a legitimate ideology.

I'm not exactly sure what an "illegitimate" ideology would entail.  Neoconism is an idiotic ideology.  An idiotic, legitimate, idiotic ideology.

Careful now.  Supporting a non-interventionist foreign policy is tantamount to worshiping Hitler.

I wouldn't go that far.  You're probably just too embarrassed to admit you masturbate to pictures of Neville Chamberlain.

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Sexylicious.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on October 15, 2010, 12:20:34 AM
Wow. He could serve in that seat for decades if he wins.

Or if he doesn't end up going to prison.

Exactly what I was thinking

Why is it so hard for Democrats and Liberals to decry the corrupt sleeze within. I guess the answer is loud and clear. In the mind of lefties, the only people who are corrupt are those that disagree with them politically.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on October 31, 2010, 03:28:56 AM
The Supreme Court has addressed the issue a number of times.

And the Supreme Court is infallible, of course.

Well, it IS supposed to be the final authority on the issue.  That doesn't mean you can disagree with the Supremes as long as you remember you're just some dude and they're, you know, the Supreme Court.  (My feeling towards, say, Citizens United: I disagree, but you're the Supreme Court and I'm not)

Il Duce is always right!


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Vepres on November 04, 2010, 07:50:20 PM
You're not allowed to suggest that Republicans lost a race because they knew nothing about issues and the Democrat was smarter and more informed than them even if it's true, Ogre Mage. Apparently it makes you a hack.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on November 04, 2010, 11:48:08 PM
Yes.  Only by being poor can you deserve money.  Therefore everyone should try to be as poor as possible, so that they can be the most deserving.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on November 05, 2010, 12:05:44 AM
This one takes the cake:



Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: dead0man on November 05, 2010, 01:10:48 AM
Unless that personal freedom involves guns, money or toys at McDonalds.

Yes, my freedom to shoot somebody is far more important to me than the freedom to enjoy happy and intoxicated lifestyle.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Joe Republic on November 05, 2010, 01:58:04 AM
If Torie had his way we would be spending billions proping up the buggy whip industry.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: King on November 05, 2010, 02:05:03 AM
Unless that personal freedom involves guns, money or toys at McDonalds.

Yes, my freedom to shoot somebody is far more important to me than the freedom to enjoy happy and intoxicated lifestyle.

Yes! I finally made it into this thread.  I've been trying for months.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on November 08, 2010, 12:00:47 AM
straw0man strikes again!

It's not the kids that want the toy that are buying the food, it's their parents for God's sake. Why can't the parents discriminate about what to buy their kids? When I was five and I only got my Chicken McNuggets and not my toy, sure I was angry, but it's not like I had any control over whether my parents wanted to buy me a toy or not. THE PARENTS ARE THE ONE BUYING THE FOOD.
See, lefties think they are smarter than EVERYbody else (even other lefties) and they KNOW they are smarter than "brown" people.  Now by itself that's not a horrible thing, kind of dickish, but a lot of people are dickish.  Where the lefties go tragically wrong is that they think that their superior intelligence is something that should be forced on other people.  They know McDonalds is wrong and if it's given to kids it's child abuse.  For reasons the lefties can't even fathom, other people take their kids to this den of commercialism all the time.  Especially poor people and even more especially, poor brown people.  They know this must be stopped and since most of them are authoritarians at heart, they see the govt as the best hammer for this particular nail.  Expect more of this in the future.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on November 08, 2010, 01:04:26 AM
You're not allowed to suggest that Republicans lost a race because they knew nothing about issues and the Democrat was smarter and more informed than them even if it's true, Ogre Mage. Apparently it makes you a hack.

You really must patrol my posting history, Veepers.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: dead0man on November 08, 2010, 04:01:22 AM
Quote
See, lefties think they are smarter than EVERYbody else (even other lefties) and they KNOW they are smarter than "brown" people.  Now by itself that's not a horrible thing, kind of dickish, but a lot of people are dickish.  Where the lefties go tragically wrong is that they think that their superior intelligence is something that should be forced on other people.  They know McDonalds is wrong and if it's given to kids it's child abuse.  For reasons the lefties can't even fathom, other people take their kids to this den of commercialism all the time.  Especially poor people and even more especially, poor brown people.  They know this must be stopped and since most of them are authoritarians at heart, they see the govt as the best hammer for this particular nail.  Expect more of this in the future.
I think the label might not fit this time Batman.  Lefties are doing this because they know better than poor people what the poor people should feed their kids.  Acknowledging that and calling it stupid isn't a strawman, it's stating a fact.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Brittain33 on November 10, 2010, 04:12:27 PM
Blacks vote for blacks.  Whites vote for whites.  Nothing else matters except race.  It's demeaning, actually.

More like black voters vote for black and white candidates (every recent Dem pres nominee before Obama), whites vote for whites. But, see the third chart... and imagine what the outcome is when one side significantly outnumbers the other.

http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/results/states/exitpolls/alabama.html

Ah yes, the old "whites are racist, but blacks cannot possibly be racist" canard. 


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on November 10, 2010, 04:49:11 PM
cinyc is kind of an idiot.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on November 10, 2010, 04:50:50 PM

Oh c'mon Xahar, he's a smart fellow, whether you agree with him or not.......reminds of another young fellow who I can't agree with often ;)


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on November 10, 2010, 05:48:34 PM
It's kind of weird. He makes a lot of really good and interesting posts, but then oftentimes he'll go spout off nonsense.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: dead0man on November 10, 2010, 07:15:03 PM
again
reminds of another young fellow who I can't agree with often ;)


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on December 02, 2010, 10:18:14 PM
Why is this controversial?  Most Americans believe in creation and the park artist renderings look interesting if they can pull it off.  I'd like to see a correctly sized Ark just to see what it was like from the Bible and would pay to go there.  We see the seeds of persecution coming down the pipeline.  Not too long from now you all will be calling for beheadings of Christians under the sway of a one world dictator - leave us alone until your time comes.

lol


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Sewer on December 03, 2010, 03:59:22 PM
liberals are basically unwilling to allow those unwilling-to-work the freedom to starve to death, and instead believe the solution for helping those unwilling-to-work is to turn them into leeches sucking the lifeblood out of the freedom of those who are willing-to-work.

hahaha


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Frink on December 03, 2010, 09:51:23 PM
Folks in the U.S. are more willing to submit to airport pat-downs than they were in Thomas Jefferson's day.

But they didn't have airplanes back then.  So therefor health care is constitutional.



Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Free Palestine on December 03, 2010, 10:40:52 PM
Folks in the U.S. are more willing to submit to airport pat-downs than they were in Thomas Jefferson's day.

But they didn't have airplanes back then.  So therefor health care is constitutional.



That was intentional.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on December 11, 2010, 04:53:06 PM
Amazing. Only seven responses. If this was a Republican or a member of a certain grassroots conservative organization saying this, it would easily be a seven page discussion about racism.

It's so upsetting that whoever said this can't accept that a black man is President of the United States (a la the Joe Wilson incident).
Amazing. Only seven responses. If this was a Republican or a member of a certain grassroots conservative organization saying this, it would easily be a seven page discussion about racism.

It's so upsetting that whoever said this can't accept that a black man is President of the United States (a la the Joe Wilson incident).

No, it was a Democrat who said it, so its about something other than racism.

Of course.  Only Republicans are racist.  Democrats can't be because they're special.  Like the late Senator who was the former Grand Kleagle of the Klu Klux Klan.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on December 20, 2010, 11:49:00 PM
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=129655.0


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on December 25, 2010, 08:57:24 PM
What counties do you think would vote for a 100% tax rate on all income above, say, $1 million, and a 100% estate tax with a $2 million dollar exemption?  I'm asking since that's a popular proposal among the socialist types.

I'd guess McGovern/Mondale/Kerry counties, minus any latte liberal ones left after that.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on December 28, 2010, 12:32:24 PM
OMG Joke State!!!!1

Oh wait, this is actually north of the Mason-Dixon? I thought these things were only supposed to happen in the Deep South and Texas, not a blue state like Connecticut?


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on December 28, 2010, 03:46:51 PM
By the logic of various conservatives who have posted in this thread, we should legalize murder, robbery, and rape.  After all gentlemen, why coddle the weak with legal protections?


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: dead0man on December 31, 2010, 12:12:23 AM
No doubt Statesrights, Sam Spade and the Blue avatars will snidely ignore this (or just sneer) as they can not believe that the United States can ever, ever be in the wrong


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on December 31, 2010, 10:05:17 AM
Ah.  You have stumbled upon an important point.  Most people who say they support marijuana legalization are Democrats, which generally means they worship any and all authority, and do exactly as they are told, like good little ducklings.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Torie on December 31, 2010, 10:15:43 AM
Ah.  You have stumbled upon an important point.  Most people who say they support marijuana legalization are Democrats, which generally means they worship any and all authority, and do exactly as they are told, like good little ducklings.

Do you mean to suggest that there are Pubbies out there who support pot legalization?  Interesting. It is a bit innovative to conjoin the concept of making something legal with a JBT reflexive love of the leviathan. As I say, I learn something every day. :)


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on December 31, 2010, 03:09:53 PM
Ah.  You have stumbled upon an important point.  Most people who say they support marijuana legalization are Democrats, which generally means they worship any and all authority, and do exactly as they are told, like good little ducklings.

Do you mean to suggest that there are Pubbies out there who support pot legalization?  Interesting. It is a bit innovative to conjoin the concept of making something legal with a JBT reflexive love of the leviathan. As I say, I learn something every day. :)

San Luis Obispo County did vote for Prop 19...


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Torie on December 31, 2010, 07:26:25 PM
Ah.  You have stumbled upon an important point.  Most people who say they support marijuana legalization are Democrats, which generally means they worship any and all authority, and do exactly as they are told, like good little ducklings.

Do you mean to suggest that there are Pubbies out there who support pot legalization?  Interesting. It is a bit innovative to conjoin the concept of making something legal with a JBT reflexive love of the leviathan. As I say, I learn something every day. :)

San Luis Obispo County did vote for Prop 19...

I must have been a bad influence on them I guess. I did spend several days there last year taking depositions. :P

SLO is just packed with ripped and nubile young folks by the way. I just loved the place.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on December 31, 2010, 07:29:03 PM
I spent last Dude Fest mostly with some guys from SLO. That guy who was in my sign with the caption "The King of Dude Fest" that probably no one remembers was from there.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on January 04, 2011, 01:44:19 AM
I find the racism directed from leftists related to China's and India's economic development abhorrent.

Stop it! It's ok when they do it.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Keystone Phil on January 04, 2011, 03:39:38 AM
I find the racism directed from leftists related to China's and India's economic development abhorrent.

Stop it! It's ok when they do it.

Uh huh. Now let's insert every px quote from that thread...and every other thread he has ever posted in.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on January 04, 2011, 04:07:34 PM
I find the racism directed from leftists related to China's and India's economic development abhorrent.

Stop it! It's ok when they do it.

Uh huh. Now let's insert every px quote from that thread...and every other thread he has ever posted in.

Feel free.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: TheDeadFlagBlues on January 09, 2011, 01:48:25 AM
You know, Ive watched from afar this thread and the twitter back and forth.  I'd have to say I'm thoroughly disgusted.  The fact that left wingers were praying that this guy was a tea party member in order to make political points about the rhetoric in this nation and marginalize the tea party.  Right wingers were hoping it was a hispanic so that they could talk about the immigration problem (equally sick because political points were trying to be scored).  Then we come to find out hours later that the guy is a nut and not one single solitary apology comes from anyone left wing on this board for getting it dead WRONG.  Not one single apology comes from Paul Krugman or Politico or CBS News for trying to pin this on tea partiers.  Even still, most of the stories are framed in a way to make the shooter look like an anti-government military activist. 

Instead, even though the guy in all likelihood is more left-wing than right-wing (which really shouldn't matter because he's crazy), it's still Sarah Palin's fault, it's still Glenn Beck's fault, etc.  There are choice words I have for how pathetic some of you are. In fact, if the shoe were on the other foot and this were a republican, there would not be even the same level of sympathy and many of you would have taken pleasure in the death.  That's right - pleasure.  You would have loved to see something like this actually happen to Sarah Palin and her children.  You would have even said she deserved it.

There isn't anything that makes Americans more angry than watching people politicize death. 


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on January 16, 2011, 12:32:47 PM
No. The Dems are clearly going to gerrymander all 242 Republicans out of existence, and the world will be forever right.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Frink on January 17, 2011, 01:51:17 AM
I feel like it should go further, not just "federal drug test-flunkies."

'cause who needs that silly Constitution?


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Oakvale on January 17, 2011, 11:18:54 AM
I feel like it should go further, not just "federal drug test-flunkies."

'cause who needs that silly Constitution?

Yet more evidence that Svensson is the heir to Libertas.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Brittain33 on January 19, 2011, 09:15:07 AM
Oh no, I guess this means that Kasisch wants racial segregation in Ohio, given what a racist he apparently is.

Maybe he is a member of the KKK too?


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: dead0man on January 19, 2011, 09:23:47 AM
If we armed everybody in the country than no one would get robbed, mugged, killed or raped!


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on January 24, 2011, 11:01:42 AM
The premise of this thread: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=131066.0


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on February 09, 2011, 03:27:19 AM
Now remember all you lefties, Campbell is black, and therefore opposing his proposal would (in leftist cant) be ‘raaaciiist’!


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on February 13, 2011, 08:49:00 PM
After all, I'm not the one saying Chinese mothers are evil monsters and all Chinese people are socially handicapped robots.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: dead0man on February 16, 2011, 01:04:41 AM
[Not everyone is fit for or goes to college. 


Ah, I got it. You just believe it should be decided who goes to college before junior high. I hope, you are not planning to decide that before the kids are born,  based on, say, ancestry, are you?


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on February 16, 2011, 02:31:29 PM
Now remember all you lefties, Campbell is black, and therefore opposing his proposal would (in leftist cant) be ‘raaaciiist’!

Come on, quoting Carlhayden is a pretty easy shot.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on February 16, 2011, 09:18:24 PM
Fine, Antonio, I'll quote someone else.

inb4dems: Tea Party.

There, I said it for you.

What? How could anyone possibly blame this on the tea party?

Don't you get it? Only the Tea Party murders people any more.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on February 17, 2011, 02:15:43 PM
The spectacle of some people showing more outrage against teachers than against the Wall Strett wizards and bankers who brought the world economy to its knees, is really depressing.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Brittain33 on February 18, 2011, 09:20:01 AM
You know, it's no so much opebo that I have a problem with...it's the fact that the majority of the Left on this site worships the sick, arrogant chickenhawk.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: TheDeadFlagBlues on February 19, 2011, 01:02:38 AM
This thread is ridiculous. How many times are the two different fiscal cycles (with drastically different account balances) going to get conflated and mixed up before it is pounded into the thick skulls of our liberal friends, who are busy trying to pretend as if the progressive lala land of Wisconsin was in perfect condition financially until Scott "Hosni Hitler Mussolini" Walker got his groper nasties on the budget?

A tax credit for employement is an unnecessary tax cut for big business now? I thought unemployment was a big problem that Boehner was ignoring to handle abortion or Healthcare or whatever the latest complaint is from Pelosi? Is unemployment not a big issue now? Didn't Obama pass similar such tax credits in his various "jobs" bills? Measures which he will be damned sure to take credit for helping to turn the economy around.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: King on February 19, 2011, 03:11:31 AM
https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=99417.0


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Brittain33 on February 19, 2011, 02:29:51 PM
OK so what does that make the ratio of stupid signs in relation to teabagger stupid signs? 1:1000?

Wait, what? This has to be one of them, right? It's an extremely inappropriate and inaccurate sign. Who else would could possibly be responsible for it? I know that the Left, after lecturing America about the need to tone down the nasty rhetoric, would never stoop this low. Ever.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on February 19, 2011, 03:53:13 PM
I can't understand why Phil is so angry all the time. He's a well-off white American male. The world belongs to him. He should enjoy it.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Keystone Phil on February 19, 2011, 11:03:18 PM
I can't understand why Phil is so angry all the time. He's a well-off white American male. The world belongs to him. He should enjoy it.

Well, aside from the above being a Strawman...  :P

No, I'm not angry. Aside from failing to understand my intellectual superiority, the most common misinterpretation regarding my posts centers around my tone. I'm very rarely "angry" when posting. The irony here is that others take my posts/tone way more seriously than they think I am. Quite amusing!

And, for the record, I'm not "well off" in a wealthy sense. I'm pretty standard middle class.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: King on February 20, 2011, 02:18:37 AM
Wait, Toomey won?


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Torie on February 20, 2011, 11:57:22 AM
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Aside from failing to understand my intellectual superiority

Well, it is a relief that lack of self confidence is not one of Phil's character flaws. :)


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on February 21, 2011, 03:12:14 PM
So, when are they going to pass a bill permitting handguns in kindergartens?


When kindergartners have the legal right to carry, like most college students do. ::)

You mean they haven't????????
And nobody has yet talked about this obvious infringement of the Second Amendment and unprecedented attack on liberty?
 

and excessive hyperbole


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on February 25, 2011, 08:35:18 AM

You obviously have never met one of those "OMG EVIL BRITISH IMPERIALISTS OMG IRA FREEDOM FIGHTERS OMG 26+6=1" Irish-American morons (who frequently have never even been to Ireland.) Look at how much of those idiots donated to NORAID and the IRA and how many still brag about it today. I have no doubt plenty of these nationalistic pieces of sh!t regard Gaddafi as a freedom fighter for all the funding he gave to the IRA.

And of course I am not saying this applies to all Irish-Americans, but it most certainly applies to far more than one would hope. I've noticed more sane Irish-Americans tend to be as irritated by these type of dipsh!ts as I am.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on February 25, 2011, 11:56:38 PM
For the record, it was Broun's office who contacted the Secret Service about the guy.


Watch as the hacks either ignore this fact or come up with another justification for their hackery.

I'm not an expert but if he failed to report it wouldn't that be like failing to report a crime?
The article says that threatening the President is a punishable offense, so it's not like Broun had much of a choice about reporting it.

Of course he wouldn't have if he had a choice.  He's a Republican after all, so he wouldn't have any regrets, especially when the president is a darkie.

Hurp Durp


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on February 28, 2011, 03:15:09 PM
Predicted response from those with red avatars:

False equivalence.  Hintz a leftist Democrat, and unlike Republicans, leftists don't have a history of violence.   So he didn't really mean dead.  Unlike Sarah Palin, who wants to kill everyone with bulls-eye graphics.

Unions don't have a history of violence either, so suggesting someone who votes against the unions is "f***king dead" is harmless.  If it were evil, violent management, it would be a true threat.

Hintz is a FF for getting more than just a massage from his massage therapists.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on August 05, 2011, 08:00:14 PM
Damn whitey keeping the browns out.....

Quote
Dario Castillo, 23, and Ramon Zuniga, 29

nevermind


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on August 27, 2011, 12:26:05 PM
This is so hilarious it almost shouldn't count.

Another exercise for you: Please argue why you support North Korea over South Korea.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: minionofmidas on August 27, 2011, 12:40:57 PM
That person should probably post straight into this thread.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: I spent the winter writing songs about getting better on August 27, 2011, 09:27:17 PM
Didn't that guy also claim Al wasn't familiar with coal miner strikes?


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on August 27, 2011, 11:40:38 PM
Didn't that guy also claim Al wasn't familiar with coal miner strikes?

In that same post!


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on October 20, 2011, 12:08:09 AM
Yeah, yeah, I'm a classist asshat that should be thankful he has a job.  Everyone on the dole deserves it and nobody ever wants to be there.  I'm the asshole.  The guy who went to liberal arts school on daddy's dime (or student loans) is the real victim here.  His handlers told him that college wasn't to help you get a job, it was to make you a more rounded person and you should go to school for what you love, not for what will help you put food on your table.  It's not his fault his handlers were deluded apes.  The guy too good to flip burgers or pour coffee (but not so good he can't take handouts from others) is the victim because he can't make a middle class income doing dissertations on Engles.  (I'd mention the lack of middle class unskilled labor jobs and the people who want those jobs, but I don't think we have any of those people here....at least those guys were willing to work....and willing to strike if they didn't get their 15 min break every 30 minutes too)


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: dead0man on October 20, 2011, 02:57:55 AM
awww, I thought you had forgotten about me.  Glad to have you back on board.  (you also missed a few more in that thread, but whatever...we all have our biases)


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on October 20, 2011, 02:29:14 PM
awww, I thought you had forgotten about me.  Glad to have you back on board.  (you also missed a few more in that thread, but whatever...we all have our biases)

Nobody's stopping you from pointing them out.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on December 06, 2011, 05:45:59 PM
He can't possibly believe this, can he?

I find it bizarre that "Jews" whom renounces Judaism for atheism, and eat pork are considered to have a stronger "Jewish identity" than folks whom marginally embrace Judaism, adhere to some dietary restrictions, but, celebrate the secular holiday of Christmas.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Badger on December 08, 2011, 07:42:06 PM
Don't you DARE call him--or anyone on this Forum--an anti-semite! They only "differ with Middle-Eastern policy, you see.....


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on February 25, 2012, 12:49:23 PM
It is good for businesses, bad for a society.

Bad for whose society? I'm quite sure the people who get the outsourced jobs in the other country are quite glad to have the opportunity.

But those people are poor and brown, John. No proper left-winger would care about them.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on June 01, 2012, 02:49:40 AM
Clearly drugs had no part in the crime and cause no harm to anybody at all anywhere.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Simfan34 on June 01, 2012, 02:17:20 PM
Clearly drugs had no part in the crime and cause no harm to anybody at all anywhere.

Of course I think there are grey areas. You of all people should realise that.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on June 01, 2012, 04:20:15 PM
I'm just pointing out your implication that other people think that drugs "cause no harm to anybody at all anywhere." Nobody thinks that.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on December 14, 2012, 04:20:17 PM
IDF Border Gaurd shoots Palestinian child w/toy FOR NO REASON


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on December 14, 2012, 05:12:35 PM
Is it a strawman if no one on this site is making a claim, even if people on other sites are making that claim?


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Velasco on December 14, 2012, 11:10:10 PM

I love that neologism. In my opinion it deserves an award, but I don't know of what class. Probably between deluge and comedy (because it seems coming from a joke thread).


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on December 15, 2012, 02:37:22 AM
Is it a strawman if no one on this site is making a claim, even if people on other sites are making that claim?

Yes. Example:

Talking about gun control is unseemly because it means we are politicizing a tragedy. But this kind of crap from the right wingers is fine and dandy.

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/12/14/huckabee_blames_shooting_on_removing_god_from_schools.html (http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/12/14/huckabee_blames_shooting_on_removing_god_from_schools.html)

Mike Huckabee told Fox News that today's deadly massacre in an elementary school in Connecticut was due to the lack of religion in public schools.

Said Huckabee: "We ask why there is violence in our schools, but we've systematically removed God from our schools. Should we be so surprised that schools would become a place of carnage because we've made it a palce where we don't want to talk about eternity, life, what responsibility means, accountability?"


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Lief 🗽 on December 17, 2012, 10:20:59 PM
It's always funny to see presumed left-wingers suddenly argue that people working in degrading jobs where they get exploited is a great thing. I guess that mostly just applies as long as the people doing the work are coloured women rather than white middle-class males.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on December 18, 2012, 01:06:32 AM
Oldiefreak's signature.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: 🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸 on March 05, 2013, 03:43:42 PM
The whole thing comes out of a misguided rationalization for their having no abortion exceptions for rape. It is obviously a very unpopular position to say the government should force rape victims to have the babies of their rapists, so they justify by saying 'but rape babies dont really happen so dont worry about it'

I don't think these people actually understand truly how awful saying this stuff is. Their position is popular, at least, in the ultraconservative circles these anti-science nimrods run in. They see the media blowups over rape and write it off as liberal media nonsense.

"Of course we're anti-rape! Of course. It's just gotta be a legit rape, where a girl was forced in an alley at knife point and she almost died and the dude doing it was ugly or poor or black or unpopular."



Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on March 17, 2013, 05:31:46 PM
Who were the 6 Democrats who voted it down?

I assume this is the vote (it's 184-233): http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2013/roll074.xml

Quote
Democratic nays:

Barrow (GA)
Matheson
McIntyre
Owens
Peterson
Schrader

The Democrats need to kick them off the ballot for 2014 and run real Democrats.

SERIOUSLY. The minimum wage is a Democratic litmus test, or at least should be considered one. If you're a Democrat and you vote against raising it, you should just switch parties right now. You aren't a Democrat if you're against raising the minimum wage, period.

So there is no level that a true Democrat would consider too high for the minimum wage? Anyone would would vote against a $1000/hr minimum wage is just a DINO?


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자) on March 17, 2013, 07:47:35 PM
That one is more of a slippery slope than a straw man, Scott.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: SPC on March 18, 2013, 01:28:52 PM
That one is more of a slippery slope than a straw man, Scott.

In isolation, yes, but that's because nobody bothered to rebut my point. Presumably they would be opposed to a $1,000/hr minimum wage since that would leave those making less without a job rather than with a higher salary, in which case, why wouldn't the same reasoning apply to any artificial price floor on labor?


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on June 27, 2013, 12:17:37 PM
I'm probably one of them...

So, Jbrase, what's your opinion of antiracist whites, feminist men, and anti-homophobic heterosexuals?
You don't need to make life harder for all whites to reduce racism, for men to achieve gender equality, for straights for gays to achieve equality. You certainly don't need to kill anyone connected with them, which is what extreme leftists and unionists (ie Trots) seem to want.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on August 02, 2013, 01:45:14 PM
The funniest thing about this lady is that I thought kids were supposed to be property of the collective?

How dare you suggest that individual parents have the authority to decide when their childs life beings. Children's lives begin when we all, as a group, say they do. How naive of her.

It should obviously be up to the community to vote, because we need a more collective notion of children if we want to raise them properly because the MSNBC ad said so.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: TNF on August 02, 2013, 03:27:29 PM
Support in the sense that I don't really care what people do to their animals. We never had ours declawed, but then again we usually found our cats outside from a massive, decades-old feral cat community.

So you're happy if a person rapes their dog? I mean after all it is their animal...


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on April 09, 2014, 01:19:45 PM
But I thought only guns could kill people! We need to ban knives now. These stupid, ignorant Ameritards can't be trusted with them either. And we need metal detectors in every room of every building! And background checks before you can cut your stake! By the way, you only need a small needle to cut your stake. No more of these kitchen knifes!


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on April 09, 2014, 02:40:50 PM
But I thought only guns could kill people! We need to ban knives now. These stupid, ignorant Ameritards can't be trusted with them either. And we need metal detectors in every room of every building! And background checks before you can cut your stake! By the way, you only need a small needle to cut your stake. No more of these kitchen knifes!
Damn this forum's spell check. Steak=stake? That is the real controversy about my post!


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on April 09, 2014, 04:13:46 PM
But I thought only guns could kill people! We need to ban knives now. These stupid, ignorant Ameritards can't be trusted with them either. And we need metal detectors in every room of every building! And background checks before you can cut your stake! By the way, you only need a small needle to cut your stake. No more of these kitchen knifes!
Damn this forum's spell check. Steak=stake? That is the real controversy about my post!

Yes, I do believe it takes a bit more than a needle to cut a stake, though I'm no expert.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Grumpier Than Uncle Joe on April 15, 2014, 06:37:23 AM
Because posting on the internet is in any way similar to drunk driving  ::)

This thread is rather pointless, since Dave's the only person who can take King off mod review.  Even Nym can't do that.  Doesn't matter if the points are taken away or not now.  Once you cross 50 points you go on mod review, even if you subsequently drop below 50, with some of the points being rescinded.

So you're pinning your hopes on Dave actually reading this thread, and acting on it before the five days are up anyway.

Ummmm…….good luck with that.


So we can blame Ernest and Inks?

King was already on mod review by the time I assigned points.  However, I wouldn't blame Inks.  I'd blame either King or the culture of enablers that think drunken foolishness is cute and harmless.  In 2012, there were 10,322 people in the United States (http://www.nhtsa.gov/About+NHTSA/Press+Releases/NHTSA+Data+Confirms+Traffic+Fatalities+Increased+In+2012) who could testify that drunken foolishness is deadly serious.  Or rather the coroners who signed their death certificates could testify to that.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on January 07, 2019, 03:34:23 PM
Here at Atlas, we equate every Evangelical Christian in America with Roy Moore (assuming he's guilty of the allegations) but insist that every Muslim, here and abroad, not be painted with broad brushes.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Politician on January 07, 2019, 04:10:41 PM
Lean R, and closer to Likely then tossup.
SUBURBS ARE TRENDING D
RURALS ARE TRENDING R
MCDOWELL COUNTY WILL NOT VOTE FOR BERNIE SANDERS IN 2020
JOHNSON COUNTY WILL NOT VOTE FOR TRUMP IN 2020
What part of this do you not understand?


Politician probably thinks Elliott County, KY is more likely to flip blue than Tarrant lol


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: dead0man on January 08, 2019, 07:24:33 AM
ahhh, Xahar, our most accepted bigot.  I bet our current bigots really miss him.  Where is he now, raising money for Hamas?


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Badger on January 08, 2019, 11:37:47 PM
ahhh, Xahar, our most accepted bigot.  I bet our current bigots really miss him.  Where is he now, raising money for Hamas?

WTF?

It's been a while, but what did he ever post warranty that kind of comparison? ???


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: dead0man on January 09, 2019, 12:02:05 AM
the one I remember best was his assertion than any Jew that was murdered beyond the Green Line had it coming.  Did he just mean settlers?  Nope.  Only adults at least?  Nope.  Any Jew.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Badger on January 09, 2019, 01:26:30 AM
the one I remember best was his assertion than any Jew that was murdered beyond the Green Line had it coming.  Did he just mean settlers?  Nope.  Only adults at least?  Nope.  Any Jew.

Wow. Didn't see that one. Pretty disgusting.


Title: Re: Strawman Thread
Post by: Politician on January 10, 2019, 03:36:04 PM
Trump won it by +27 and Brown lost it. Since WW2 only Clinton (because of a third party ticket) and LBJ (in a landslide) won it. It's a stupid question. Safe R. It was close in 2012 because Obama was a good fit for that county, while Romney must have been a terrible one, but politics have changed since 2012. The political environment is completely different.

But some Atlas posters told me that 2012 is more relevant to the 2020 race than 2016/2018 will be. Who am I to question their wisdom? Especially after these same people told me that Democrats would sweep the Senate/gubernatorial races in crimson red states (but Nevada was still a toss up!) and that Obama/Trump districts were more likely to flip than Romney/Clinton districts.