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1  General Discussion / History / Re: Opinion of Thomas E. Dewey on: August 07, 2009, 10:29:49 am
Anyone who takes on FDR=FF.

Hooray for Hitler!

Who would've been much better as an ally than Stalin, who committed much more genocide and was an ardent supporter of Communism and went against all American interests. Germany provided an intelligent people, plus Hitler who opposed such Communism and was far less dangerous than Stalin and the Soviets.

12 million jews, gypsies, blacks, gays, slavs, and so on beg to differ.

Go look up all of Stalin's murders. They dwarf the 12 million (a ballooned figure by the way). After all, "one death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic." Stalin should've never received help from the US, and although Hitler was evil and did many disgusting things, Stalin outclasses him in every measure for the "villain award".

As Kalwejt already mentioned, had Hitler won WW2, the murders and systematic genocide he would have committed in eastern Europe and elsewhere would have dwarfed Stalin by a long stretch.

While there's no denying that Stalin was a murderous psychopath, Hitler set out to effectively annihilate an entire ethnicity through slave labour and industrialised mass murder. The holocaust against the Jews would only have been the first of many genocides to create Lebensraum in an attempt to build an empire that would stretch from the Atlantic to the Volga.

There is plenty to suggest this. Hitler said as much in Mein Kampf. From archives that survived the war there were plans by key Nazi governmental figures like Rosenberg to make this empire a reality. The sheer brutality German forces showed against the people of eastern Europe, compared to their conduct in places like France (which Hitler stated was a culture to be preserved if pacified and put under German control), suggests that the first phase of this genocide was already in full swing.

On this note, it wouldn't be entirely off-key to speculate what would have happened between Germany and Japan had the axis powers been successful. Given what we know, it's not unlikely that we would have seen Asia divided between the two in a very uneasy truce, with a cold war the result between two competing world powers, and possible nuclear war resulting in the deaths of further millions.

But this is all a "what if" scenario which humanity thankfully avoided.

Ahem. Anyways, to get back on topic, I think Dewey was a FF, if only for that swanky moustache and the fact that I'm friends with some of his family. Oh, and the fact that he probably would have been a rather good President. That too.
2  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Could Obama have a chance in South Carolina in 2012? on: December 26, 2008, 01:15:34 pm
Who knows. Four years ago, not many people would have prediced a Democrat winning Indiana and North Carolina in 2008.
3  General Politics / Economics / Re: Germany Close to Collapse. on: December 26, 2008, 11:00:40 am
3.5% to 5% contraction doesn't suggest a collapse, even a near-collapse, but the German figures are bad because they're the only ones who are honest enough about the current situation, unlike their English-speaking counterparts who have turned sweeping things under the carpet until the carpet can no longer hold the size before it explodes under the strain, culminating into sh**t flying all over the f***ing fan into a comedy art form, except it's neither funny nor artful. If anything, Germany will probably be least worse off because as opposed to some countries they aren't sitting on mountains of debt.

But of course, you're right, except contraction is merely the beginning. We're on the verge of collapse, and that goes for most, perhaps all western countries. Commodity prices are rising, stock markets are falling, the cost of living versus average salaries is increasing, unemployment is rising and our financial systems are falling off the edge, which means recession, probably of epic proportions, global and intractable because for the first time in history we face exponential demand from developing countries alongside increasing environmental degradation and shortages of essential material resources.

In turn this means unprecedented social disruption and the acute socio-economic marginalisation of millions of people. If you think things are bad now, just wait another few years.
4  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: Obama will probably lose but be good for Democratic Party on: April 25, 2008, 10:04:47 am
The opposite might be true.  The party might be so damaged by Obama driving away voter coalition groups that the party will be out for the next 30 years.  If he were to be elected, he could end up being worse than Jimmy Carter and basically complete the destruction of the Democratic coalition.

Actually, that would be Hillary. The only possible way she can get the nomination now is to take a path that will effectively fragment the Dem coalition. Obama on the other hand has very strong grassroots support.
5  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: CNN: McCain Dead Even With Obama Or Clinton. Go Figure. on: April 25, 2008, 09:44:33 am
Edit: Mike gets it but deleted his post.

Eheh, it's because I kinda thought I was stating the obvious, but it looks like it doesn't seem like that to a lot of people. So yeah, polls mean sh**t at this stage.
6  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Europe Turning to Coal, Despite Global Warming Worries on: April 25, 2008, 08:45:51 am

Hey, if you're gonna go out, go out in style! Er, or in a silly rainbow coffin.
7  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Europe Turning to Coal, Despite Global Warming Worries on: April 25, 2008, 05:49:50 am
Yep, that's all I do.  Everyday I wake up and Google "what stupid thing did Europe do today?".

See? I knew it! Tongue
8  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Europe Turning to Coal, Despite Global Warming Worries on: April 25, 2008, 03:10:44 am
I suppose a week on this board wouldn't be the same without a Bash Europe thread.
Right, because no other region or nation gets bashed.

Except I didn't say that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawman_argument

And even so, last time I checked two wrongs didn't make a right.

Besides, if you have a genuine point to make, cool, go for it, let's talk, but all I see guys like you or Frodo doing is venting your prejudices by picking up anything just to have a go at them "Europeans". Roll Eyes
9  General Discussion / History / Re: What WERE They Thinking? VP Choices... on: April 24, 2008, 07:10:33 pm
Why didn't Bentsen run for President in '88 in the first place?!

He possibly still held bitter memories of his utter failure in 1976.  But that is my own speculation.

That probably is the case Joe. Boy did he screw up his campaign in '76. Now I would have easily preferred Bentsen to have been the Democrat's candidate in 1976 than that peanut farmer from Plains. If only he performed better....

He was up against some heavyweights in '76 though. Udall, Jackson and, yes, Carter. By 1988 he was an elder statesman and a very respected figure in his party... surely he would have been a firm favorite for the nomination?
10  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: Predict when Clinton drops out on: April 24, 2008, 07:01:27 pm
I have news for you, even if the superdelegates give Obama the 2024 delegates required, Hillary will still take this to the convention. Superdelegates can change their minds and Hillary will bring her case to the credentials committee.

She will not drop out until the convention. She may never drop out. She may win the nomination.

If she wins the nomination this way, the Democratic Party will be split down the middle for the best part of a generation. It would be catastrophic, and I think many superdelegates realise this.
11  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What band would have the most songs on your 420 soundtrack? on: April 24, 2008, 10:43:10 am
Tangerine Dream.
12  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Who will be the national leaders in... on: April 24, 2008, 10:35:44 am

Italy PM - Gianfranco Fini, Gianfranco Fini, some semi-random center-left compromise leader who's name I have not, so far, ever heard

Thank you! I was waiting for someone to mention him.  Smiley

Tbh, I don't know enough about Italian politics to judge who could succeed Berlusconi or Vetroni.

(It's for similar reasons I didn't even try and predict the future Canadian PM because I know even less about politics in Canada.)
13  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Predict the Previous Poster's Political Career on: April 24, 2008, 10:24:11 am
Southern Patriot:
VP candidate on the Constitution Party ticket in 2020 and Presidential candidate proper in 2024 (best result: wins about 3% in Alabama). Attempts to run for President in 2028 in the Republican primaries but loses out to George P. Bush.

Lewis:
Far too sensible to ever enter politics.
14  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Who will be the national leaders in... on: April 24, 2008, 10:21:41 am
Pope - Benedict XIV
Pope - Benedict XIV
As a student of Latin I wish people can learn their Roman numerals Tongue

Pope Benedict XIV probably will not be leading anytime soon as he died in 1758

Ouch.

Actually, in my scenario, scientists create a time machine in the summer of 2009 which enables Benedict XIV to travel back in time and become Pope after Ratzinger resigns over something or over.

Or maybe I just cocked up and meant to write Benedict XVI instead. Wink
15  General Discussion / History / Re: What WERE They Thinking? VP Choices... on: April 24, 2008, 10:18:50 am
I think that Bentsen was actually a better pick for Dukakis than Ferraro was for Mondale.

The reason Bentson was put on the ticket was to hurt Bush in TX.  That failed miserably.

Not to mention, many people thought at the time after Dukakis' decision, that Senator Bentsen should have been on top of the Democratic ticket in 1988 than Dukakis himself.

Why didn't Bentsen run for President in '88 in the first place?!
16  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Who will be the national leaders in... on: April 24, 2008, 09:49:32 am
December 31st 2009
President of the USA - Barack Obama
UK PM - Gordon Brown
Australia PM - Kevin Rudd
President of France - Nicolas Sarkozy
German Chancellor - Angela Merkel
Italy PM - Silvio f***ing Berlusconi
Pope - Benedict XIV

December 31st 2011
President of the USA - Barack Obama
UK PM - David Cameron
Australia PM - Kevin Rudd
President of France - Nicolas Sarkozy
German Chancellor - Angela Merkel
Italy PM - Silvio f***ing Berlusconi
Pope - Benedict XIV

December 31st 2013
President of the USA - Barack Obama
UK PM - David Cameron
Australia PM - Kevin Rudd
President of France - Bertrand Delanoe
German Chancellor - Angela Merkel
Italy PM - Walter Vetroni
Pope - that Nigerian dude
17  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: What's the last movie you've seen? on: April 24, 2008, 06:45:21 am
Three Times

Very good Taiwanese film. It's fairly obvious that Asia has now taken Europe's mantle as the mecca of great art cinema.
18  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: Gov. Brad Henry (D-OK) endorses Barack Obama on: April 24, 2008, 06:39:20 am
Every superdelegate counts at this point.  Obviously it doesn't do anything for Obama as far as election performance but it does bring him one delegate closer to officially ending this thing.

One can but hope. The superdelegates are effectively Hillary's last hope since it's virtually impossible for her to overtake Obama in the caucus/primary numbers.

The fact is this - for her to win the nomination, she has to undermine Obama so severely that his campaign is irretrievably damaged and the superdelegates decide she's the more electable candidate in a GE. Such a scenario would benefit her, would probably bring her into the White House, but in the long-run it would be nothing short of a disaster for the Democratic Party, mainly because of the rancour it would cause with the party grassroots. It would split the party right down the middle for the best part of a decade.
19  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Europe Turning to Coal, Despite Global Warming Worries on: April 24, 2008, 06:16:50 am
I suppose a week on this board wouldn't be the same without a Bash Europe thread.
20  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Xahar on: April 24, 2008, 06:08:31 am
FF. Very bright for his age.
21  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: If Barack Said He Was Gay, Would Hillary Win The Nomination? on: April 24, 2008, 06:01:14 am
What if Clinton, Obama and McCain all proclaimed they were gay? Then what?

ORGY
22  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: Obama: The Next McGovern? on: April 24, 2008, 05:57:29 am
Yay for believing Clinton propaganda!

Indeed.

I kinda expected them to pull the McGovern line at some point. Hey, Obama's kinda liberal, has a huge grassroots following... and so did McGovern! Yeah! The two are, like, totally the same.

Ugh.

Can we all get back to "Al Gore's like so totally gonna get the nomination at the convention" please?
23  Election Archive / 2008 U.S. Presidential Election Campaign / Re: What do think is your candidate's biggest weakness? on: April 24, 2008, 03:46:35 am

Your candidate has no personal weaknesses whatsoever? How wonderful it must feel to support an incarnation of God himself...

The question is about his biggest weakness.

Yes, but supposed media-bias is not a weakness. Aside from the obvious point that any hack will say the media is against their candidate it's not a weakness of a candidate, imo. If the media is biased in favour of McCain this would hurt any candidate running against him, not specifically Obama. It's pretty obviously a cop-out for someone who cannot admit to their candidate having any weaknesses.

We can beg to differ there. While I wouldn't say it's the biggest problem he has to deal with - that's still his inexperience and his tendency to shoot his mouth off from time to time (though even there we can argue that actually it's quite endearing because it means he's not as robotically media-trained and PR-driven like some of his rivals, but I'd probably be stretching it if I said that) - it's fairly obvious, to me at least, that he's up against a status quo which includes much of the mainstream media; who are more likely to make a meal of things like the Wright debacle and the "bitter"-remarks than had these things affected Clinton or McCain, solely to undermine Obama (the fact that no-one has picked up on the fact that McCain has cavorted with some very dodgy people himself kinda supports that view). The ABC "debate" last week, where he kept being hammered with one "gotcha"-question after another in the obvious but vain hope that they could get another clumsy soundbite out of him they could then repeat over and over in the news, was rather illustrative of that.
24  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Anybody notice this? on: April 23, 2008, 05:45:50 pm
Nice. Smiley
25  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Favorite Former Poster on: April 23, 2008, 05:42:21 pm
I would've said Gabu and MikeyMike, but neither of them qualify. You would've been up there on my list.
Gabu is gone?  Damn didn't even notice, he was a good poster

Yeah, he left about 2-3 months ago. He should be back in time for the GE, hopefully.
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