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1  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Ukrainian parliamentary election - 26 October 2014 on: October 27, 2014, 04:01:22 pm
Popular Front isn't that tough.


have you see the youtube video when the PF of the parliament cry because deputies didn't vote the recognition of fighters of stepan bandera as ukrainian heroes ? Seems for me this is not a very "classical liberal pro-UE" way of thinking Wink
2  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Ukrainian parliamentary election - 26 October 2014 on: October 27, 2014, 01:38:34 pm
end of the day : awful result for porochenko, very good results for all nationalists wings (from pro-UE moderate to fascists). Donetsk will be bring back home soon.
3  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Ukrainian parliamentary election - 26 October 2014 on: October 27, 2014, 01:36:19 pm
based on the 69.71% reporting :

pro-russian (OP, SU, KPU) : 16.81
moderate pro-ukraine (PB, HP) : 24.57
tough pro-ukraine (PF, BT, SP) : 38.57
nationalists pro-ukraine (RS, SV, RP) : 13.97


Unknowed wing : 6,08%


(dunno where to place agrairian union)
4  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Ukrainian parliamentary election - 26 October 2014 on: October 27, 2014, 08:31:19 am
results, please Wink
5  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Uruguay General Election, October 26, 2014 on: October 27, 2014, 04:53:12 am
Frente Amplio
822.246

Partido Nacional
573.114

Partido Colorado
242.013

Partido Independiente
51.589

Partido Asamblea Popular
17.844

Partido de los Trabajadores
2.281

Partido Ecologista Radical Intransigente
11.436



http://eleccionesnacionales2014.corteelectoral.gub.uy/

6  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Ukrainian parliamentary election - 26 October 2014 on: October 26, 2014, 11:06:46 pm
wich part of ukraine is decounting ballot first ? cities ? rural areas ? east, west, center, south ?
7  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Ukrainian parliamentary election - 26 October 2014 on: October 26, 2014, 09:53:14 pm
What is the ETA for counting to complete ?



because cyrillic is hard to read ^^
8  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Ukrainian parliamentary election - 26 October 2014 on: October 26, 2014, 09:52:28 pm
porotchenko down, great news !


can't wait to see face of pro-russian when they will watch the happy face of Alexandre Tourtchinov (Turchynov in english)



where are those smileys???

Turchynov is a rough attempt at transliteration Smiley Actually, if you insist on frenchifying it, it should be Porochenko Smiley




in fact, we use the "t" because "ch" sounds for us like "sh" for english. So PoroTchenko is the true "francised" (?) name of the PoU Wink
9  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Brazil Election - 5 October 2014 on: October 26, 2014, 09:44:59 pm
This fast reporting is a travesty! Imagine, how much fun it would have been if we could see that live!

Live football broadcasts should be banned. Then the rest of the world would know, how we feel!

Thanks god for Ukraine!

My thoughts exactly.  They took all the fun out of it.  If they are going to say that results cannot be released until everyone has voted, then they should not start counting the vote until everyone has voted.



I agree, but, halas, you'll ever have those f**** exit polls :/
10  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Ukrainian parliamentary election - 26 October 2014 on: October 26, 2014, 09:41:40 pm
porotchenko down, great news !


can't wait to see face of pro-russian when they will watch the happy face of Alexandre Tourtchinov (Turchynov in english)



where are those smileys???
11  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Ukrainian parliamentary election - 26 October 2014 on: October 26, 2014, 09:34:32 pm
Ridiculously tight race for the first place (so far, roughly 400 vote gap between the top two)

12.12% reporting.

Poroshenko Bloc 21.72%
Popular Front (Yatsenyuk/Turchinov) 21.69%
Samopomich 9.71%
Opposition Bloc 9.27%
Radical Party (Lyashko) 8.04%
Batkivshchina (Timoshenko) 6.23%
______________________________

Svoboda 4.53%
Communists 3.85%
Agrarian Union Zastup 3.62%
Strong Ukraine (Tihipko) 3.16%
Hromadyanska Poziciya (Hrytsenko) 3.05%
Right Sector 1.70%
everybody else under 1% each





i bet for svoboda above the 5 %  (too high threshold IMO, this is not true-PR spirit. Ideal threshold is 2 %)
12  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Ukrainian parliamentary election - 26 October 2014 on: October 26, 2014, 09:31:25 pm
Leaders in FPTP constituencies (by party). Unfortunately, a lot of the candidates are officially independent, and I do not know who leans where.

Poroshenko Bloc 57
Popular Front 18
Batkivshchina 4
Svoboda 4
Opposition Bloc 2
Agrarian Union Zastup 2
Samopomich 1
Silna Ukraina 1
Right Sector 1
Volya 1
Independents 96


independants (and "sonstige", "divers", "misc."  are the Devil, the true Devil for fans of elections and parties
13  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Ukrainian parliamentary election - 26 October 2014 on: October 26, 2014, 08:13:32 pm
thanks a lot Smiley


(but my computer don't arrives to catch the link ...so frusrating )



edit : fails to display the link (thanks google traduct^^)
14  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Brazil Election - 5 October 2014 on: October 26, 2014, 08:10:53 pm
happy of this reelection. Brasil could have turn to columbia with the victory of the liberal candidate.


(and vargasist PDT choose Rousseff)
15  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Ukrainian parliamentary election - 26 October 2014 on: October 26, 2014, 08:05:48 pm
Were do you see those results, please ?
16  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Oliver Cromwell on: October 09, 2014, 04:14:22 pm
a son of a b**** , ancestor of all liberal-wings. Long live to cavaliers !
17  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: French Run-off, 2012 (actual) at the time and in retrospect> on: October 09, 2014, 04:13:07 pm
hollande / hollande


the cunning plan works perfectly Wink
18  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1960 Presidential Election on: October 08, 2014, 05:32:20 pm
Nixon, the best president of the 60 past years!
19  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Brazil Election - 5 October 2014 on: October 08, 2014, 05:23:24 pm
by the way, is there a law to make obligations to political parties to have "party" at first name ?



I like the idea. In France, a lot of parties hides their lack of ideological point of view behind vague words like "rassembly", "union", "alliance", and so on (especially on the right)
20  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Brazil Election - 5 October 2014 on: October 08, 2014, 05:21:14 pm
Wich is the most vargasist party ? PTB, PDT, PTN or PTdoB ?

PDT

Although PTB was refounded by Vargas' daughter in 1979, the politicians who joined PTB after that had nothing to do with Getúlio Vargas labor policies.

The PDT, founded by Leonel Brizola in 1979 too, is the party who supports Vargas' ideas. Brizola was a political ally from Vargas in Rio Grande do Sul.



Thank you very much.


When I read story of Brasil, I fall in love with Getulio, life and tragic death. I'm so sad brazilian people forgot it and vote only for leftist or liberal parties.
21  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Elections coming up on: October 08, 2014, 05:18:15 pm
So, the next important election is Russia President (well, not really - because we know who wins).

At least we have the US primaries in between, because otherwise I would probably die because of boredom.



i love that sort of quotes. Only crazy-elections fans like us could understand (mrgreen)


where are those damn smileys Huh
22  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Bulgaria elections - 5 October 2014 on: October 08, 2014, 05:12:36 pm
another soc-dem party on the list of falling SDP because get out of social welfare. Why they don"t understand that ? They all wants finish like PASOK ?
23  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Brazil Election - 5 October 2014 on: October 08, 2014, 05:09:43 pm
Wich is the most vargasist party ? PTB, PDT, PTN or PTdoB ?
24  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Brazil Election - 5 October 2014 on: October 08, 2014, 02:49:22 pm
french wiki said results of chamber of deputies as are follow : (in order of %)

1 PT 13,65
2 PMDB 12,87
3 PSDB 10,53
4 PSD 7,21
5 PP 7,02
6 PSB 6,82
7 PR 6,63
8 PTB 4,87
9 DEM 4,29
10 PRB 4,09
11 PDT 3,7
12 SD 2,92
13 PSC 2,34
14 PROS 2,14
15 PPS 1,95
16 PCdB 1,95
17 PV 1,56
18 PSOL 0,98
19 PHS 0,98
20 PTN 0,78
21 PRP 0,59
22 PMN 0,59
23 PEN 0,39
24 PTC 0,39
25 PSDC 0,39
26 PSL 0,2
27 PRTB 0,2
28 PTdB 0,2



in order of gain/lose points, the results are as follow :



1 PSD 7,21
2 SD 2,92
3 PRB 2,39
4 PROS 2,14
5 PTB 0,67
6 PTN 0,58
7 PP 0,42
8 PEN 0,39
9 PRP 0,29
10 PSDC 0,19
11 PHS 0,18
12 PCO 0
13 PCB -0,1
14 PSTU -0,1
15 PRTB -0,1
16 PMDB -0,13
17 PTC -0,21
18 PSOL -0,22
19 PSB -0,28
20 PSL -0,3
21 PTdB -0,5
22 PMN -0,51
23 PPS -0,65
24 PCdB -0,85
25 PSC -0,86
26 PR -0,97
27 PDT -1,3
28 PSDB -1,37
29 PV -2,24
30 PT -3,25
31 DEM -3,31


(PCO, PCB et PSTU don't run in 2014)
25  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Your actual party affiliations on: October 06, 2014, 11:05:09 am
not affiliate, but...


communist 1984-1987
republican-socialist (in a gaullist way) 1987-1992
repubican-gaullist 1993- jan.1994
royalist (since jan. 1994) but
*softly national-liberal conservative 1994-2002
*strongly socialist nationalism 2002-now

always moderate/libertarian in terms of private life, freeminding, etc.
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