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1  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: This is what a state that refuses to expand Medicaid looks like on: Today at 12:32:02 am
Those who are on SSDI - who aren't "rolling in dough" whether or not they are legitimately disabled - have health coverage, since SSDI recipients receive Medicare coverage. They are there at that health clinic because there just aren't doctors in the area to see them. Having more of the general population have health insurance could allow an increase the number of providers in the area, though Medicaid is much less attractive in this respect.  Having the working poor have better access to health insurance would also remove one of the incentives for being or staying on SSDI for those with some chance of working.
2  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: I am entitled to the Presidency of Atlasia. on: January 26, 2015, 11:43:55 pm
Where is this supposed law that says that the presidency would fall to Snowstalker?  Unless we are going to invalidate the entire election - which would require a new election, not a coronation of the runner up - any vacancy or incapacity in the president means the office is taken up by the VP.
3  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / should we unpresident Napoleon from history? on: January 26, 2015, 11:19:23 pm
All hail President Snowstalker!

2 days.
4  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: A spooky coincidence on: January 26, 2015, 10:51:43 pm
People are just now discovering Napoleon was a Hamilton sock? I had said he was back when he registered shortly after Hamilton was banned. His likes and dislikes of forum members were too similar to Hamiltons, especially when it came to me and Tmth.

I am almost sure I contacted Inks or someone at the time with my suspicions, but I don't think he found anything wrong with Nappy's account. Nappy as a person was too secretive to not be Hamilton. We literally knew nothing about Nappy, his name, his job, his residence, and for good reason.

I could have sworn he mentioned his town one time. Anyway, that level of secrecy isn't unusual.
5  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: I am entitled to the Presidency of Atlasia. on: January 26, 2015, 10:46:25 pm
How about we just put something on your wiki page about how you lost to a sock.
6  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: As inequality soars, the nervous super rich are already planning their escapes on: January 26, 2015, 05:49:57 pm
They're buying farms!  Just like a parasite to want to farm.  For the sake of humanity, let's hope they never get the chance.
7  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: A spooky coincidence on: January 26, 2015, 05:45:40 pm
What? RIP, FF.
8  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Alternative Elections / Re: 3rd Party Power on: January 26, 2015, 03:33:56 pm
This split would tend to benefit Clinton, unless there were an especially large amount of dissatisfaction on the Left. In a scenario where the combined strength of the 3rd parties is similar to Perot '92:

Clinton  43% 431
Christie 39% 107
Paul        7%
Warren    6%
Cruz        5%
9  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Steve King-athon Iowa Freedom Summit Jan. 24: commentary thread on: January 26, 2015, 01:13:23 pm
Yeah Gilmore is so Bush W. era. I disagreed with  some stuff he had to say. He just seemed so 1998 in his rhetoric at the event this weekend.
1997 was the last time he had a successful campaign so that would make sense.
10  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Be honest. Have you used "Obama is a black, you see" in conversation before? on: January 26, 2015, 12:07:50 pm
Occasionally when trying to explain why Republicans oppose Republican policies such as the individual healthcare mandate that Obama has supported.
or how about why Republicans ran a presidential candidate against him twice for no reason.
11  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: has tinder ruined our society once and for all? on: January 26, 2015, 10:42:20 am
You mean Tender?  He's not so bad.
12  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Which Barack Obama accomplishment is your favorite? on: January 26, 2015, 10:38:41 am
"Avoiding any serious scandal"

Benghazi? Fast and Furious? Solyndra?

The question said serious scandal.

Why is giving guns to deadly gangs not a serious scandal? Is it because no one had sex?
13  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Sarah Palin: "Of course" interested in 2016 White House bid on: January 26, 2015, 12:14:17 am
She's tough and no nonsense, but she can't win nationally.

no nonsense? Did you listen to her speech yesterday?

"no nonsense" as  in clueless and insensitive.
14  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Which Barack Obama accomplishment is your favorite? on: January 26, 2015, 12:05:28 am
using diplomacy to keep Iran from becoming a nuclear military power, so far. Let's hope he can keep it up.

cash for clunkers lol
15  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Alternative Elections / Re: 2016: Bill Clinton vs. Republican Candidates on: January 25, 2015, 11:49:40 pm

Bill Clinton/Michael Bennett  363
Chris Christie/Bobby Jindal   175
16  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Did Reagan run on racism? on: January 25, 2015, 07:07:12 pm
And, Shua, I am excruciatingly embarrassed to see a poster whom I usually respect defending Atwater's remarks as evidence that the 1980 campaign was not largely about race.

I'm saying Atwater said it was not about race.  I don't know how someone can fairly come to any other conclusion that he was arguing anything else, unless there's some sort of deconstructionist hermeneutic involved. Maybe he's just justifying himself retroactively, I don't know, but if you quote Atwater as an authority on the subject, then don't take his remarks out of context and twist them around to try to make it sound like he supported the very argument he was criticizing. 

I don't know what a "deconstructionist hermeneutic" is, but how exactly are you connecting that ominous Atwater line about "doing away with the racial problem one way or the other" to the claim that racism wasn't relevant to the 1980 presidential campaign?

He is taking the premise of this question:
Q: But might there–I’m not saying that he does this consciously–but the fact is that he does get to the Wallace voter, and to the racist side of the Wallace voter, by doing away with legal services, by doing away with, cutting down on food stamps–
and accepting it for the sake of argument.
He is arguing that a campaign that might appeal to racists by pointing to other issues that might be subconsciously related to racism is going to leave racial politics behind anyway by focusing on those other, substantively nonracial, issues.  There's some weakness to that argument, but this is one of many things he is saying in defending against the charge that the campaign was racist.

I've never seen anyone maintain that explicitly racist language was a staple of Reagan's campaigns. What claim are you arguing against?
the claim that the Atwater interview was a confession that Reagan's campaign was intentionally race-baiting by talking about cutting spending.
17  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Republican Iowa dropouts on: January 25, 2015, 06:58:54 pm
Most of these will either not run or drop out before Iowa.  Rick Perry seems like he is the most likely to stay in until then and stake everything on Iowa and then have no success there.
18  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: 2000: Colin Powell vs Al Gore on: January 25, 2015, 06:49:54 pm
Powell loses support from racists and, in spite of the pick of Hagel, some social conservatives, but is competitive with blacks and other minorities, and is regarded highly by most voters.

Colin Powell/Chuck Hagel        48.9% 364
Al Gore/Joe Lieberman            42.5% 174
Pat Buchanan/Jim Traficant       5.5%
Ralph Nader/Wynona LaDuke     2.6%
others                                       .5%
19  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Atlas Ministry of Purity Crimes Self-Reporting Thread on: January 25, 2015, 06:22:38 pm
I love this thread. Cheesy

It definitely exceeded expectations big time.

It did, didn't it. But wait, what is this?

These aren't the Euros! What is this?! They- the National Weather Service- are talking about "breaking records". The Euros are actually behind here:

Good God, I ought to grab some mulled wine of my own and see what it is those ladies are laughing about, I'm not going to have too many alternatives by the look of it. That is, of course, if we don't have normal operations. In that case I might lose an arm or something.

Why are they using a European model?  This is America.
20  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Renee Ellmers on: January 25, 2015, 06:12:44 pm
Seems like a nice person, but she's utterly clueless.  She votes for this thing multiple times before and didn't have a problem with it. She said it would hurt the GOP with young people even though they are even more pro-life than the population at large and this bill has 60% support in the polls. And so she raised a fuss over a bill she said she'd vote for again anyway if it came up.
21  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: "Sick Privilege on: January 25, 2015, 06:08:07 pm
Refusing to vaccinate should be classified as "child abuse." Problem solved.

since when does that solve anything? 

Also the idea that the state should force chemo on anyone is pretty awful. At least with vaccines  serious painful side effects are not all that likely. On the other hand, side effects from being taken away from your parents are very likely as well. I would guess the diminution in projected lifespan is substantially greater than not getting a vaccine.
22  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Swearing in of New Officeholders on: January 25, 2015, 01:50:18 am
I, shua, do solemnly affirm that I will faithfully execute the office of Mideast Asssemblyman, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the constitution of Atlasia and of the Mideast Region, so help me Dave.
23  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: why is NE Indiana so right wing? on: January 25, 2015, 01:46:43 am
It's not all that much more Republican than most of the rest of the state outside of the Northwest and Indianapolis.
24  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: Texas is Way Bigger .... on: January 25, 2015, 01:35:55 am
nice that it gives an equal area comparison by constantly changing the frame of reference for the projection of the shape equidistant with reference to the map.

I didn't realize Texas was so close to the size of Ontario, or Alaska!
25  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Federal Reserve Reform Act (Debating) on: January 25, 2015, 01:14:16 am
As a former GM, I would have liked to have another character setting Fed policy that I could have interacted with.  It wasn't understood as part of GM's duty when I was there, but if it had it would have just felt like another instance where I was talking to myself. I support this.
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