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1  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Dust In The Wind on: August 07, 2016, 12:38:13 am
TIME – Republicans stay afloat
November 11th, 1990

1990: Year of the Maverick?

A week ago, the Congressional mid-term elections took place, and America voted on the composition of a third of the Senate, as well as the entire House of Representatives. Typically, the party that controls the White House tends to fare negatively in these, and the party out of power tries to spin the results as a “referendum on the President,” especially after elections like 1974 or 1986. However, attempts to do so with last week’s results would be futile, as Republicans actually gained in both chambers.

Areus Ho’kee entered the White House amidst an unseemly background: after a divisive primary campaign that divided his party, he won the Presidency in an election where no candidate received a majority of the popular vote. His party had a slim majority in Congress, and initially Areus Ho’kee seemed listless and lacking direction. Democratic partisans were quick to paint Ho’kee as a mercurial showman that was not interested in the actual duties of the office.

President Ho’kee was quick to rebound from his inaugural hangover, actively advocating for legislative initiatives by giving speeches on their behalf and returning to his pre-election form. Within a few months, he had overseen the passage of major trade and foreign policy legislation. His approval ratings went up, and the Republicans were able to overcome the Democratic and Working Man’s parties, both of which were struggling to offer a narrative that can effectively combat Ho’kee’s.

Perhaps most impressive about the Republican Party’s midterm success was its composition. Ten years ago, the Mavericks were an informal club comprised of a few Congressmen. However, this election saw one Republican, Restique Skinner, mounting a successful primary challenge against an incumbent Senator by self-styling himself as a Maverick. Several Gubernatorial candidates were elected using this approach, as well as over a dozen Representative candidates. It seems as if the President’s politics, once a grab bag of third rail issues, are becoming in vogue in America.

One glaring exception to the Republicans’ coup was Michigan. Since the 1970’s, the state’s principal industry, automotive manufacturing, has been beleaguered by rising fuel costs and strong competition from foreign imports. This has led to great economic anxiety amongst its voters, and subsequently, strong anti-incumbent sentiment. On Election Day, Michigan elected Christian Mattingly, a WMP activist turned Democrat, to the Governor’s seat, and nearly ousted their Republican Senator, thus severely bucking a national trend. While this could be an anomaly, it could also be a sign of weakness for the President in a region that has a bevy of Electoral Votes.

Presidential Approval Ratings
November 8th, 1990


HEAD-TO-HEAD MATCHUPS

November 8th, 1990

Key:

Safe Republican: >10%

Slight Republican: 4-9%

Tossup: 3% difference

Slight Democratic: 4-9%

Safe Democratic: >10%


Ho'kee vs Brown vs WMP

3705416 - 98

Ho'kee vs Mondale vs WMP

3858216 - 55

Ho'kee vs Wyde


322 202 - 14
2  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Dust In The Wind on: August 07, 2016, 12:05:40 am
Alabama:
Jefferson Dent (R)
Howell Heflin (D)

Alaska:
Ted Stevens (R)
Clark Gruening (D)

Arizona:
Bob Stump (D)
Jim Kolbe (R)

Arkansas:
David Pryor (D)
Dale Bumpers (D)


California:
Pete McCloskey (R)
Ed Zschau (R)


Colorado:
Gary Hart (D)
Bill Armstrong (R)

Connecticut:
Lowell Weicker (R)
Christopher Shays (R
)

Delaware:
Joe Biden (D)
William Roth (R)

Florida:
Lawton Chiles (D)
Richard McPherson (D)


Georgia:
Sam Nunn (D)
John D. Russell (D)

Hawaii:
Daniel Inouye (D)
Spark Matsunaga (D)


Idaho:
Orval Smylie (R)
George Hansen (WMP)

Illinois:
Alex Seith (D)
Jim Edgar (R)

Indiana:
Richard Lugar (R)
Floyd Fithian (D)

Iowa:
Frederic Reid (R)
Jim Leach (R)


Kansas:
Bob Dole (R)
Joan Finney (D)

Kentucky:
Walter Huddleston (D)
Wendell Ford (D)

Louisiana:
Bennett Johnston Jr. (D)
Mike Foster (D)
*

Maine:
Thad O'Connor (R)
Ralph Stevenson (R)


Maryland:
Clarence Long (D)
Wayne Gilchrest (R)

Massachusetts:
Ted Kennedy (D)
Bill Weld (R)

Michigan:
Mic Ceriel (R)
William Milliken (R)


Minnesota:
David Durenburger (R)
Richard Akers (R)


Mississippi:
Gillespie Montgomery (D)
Patton Wyde (D)


Missouri:
Thomas Eagleton (D)
John Danforth (R)

Montana:
Scott Westman (D)
Helen Brisco (R)

Nebraska:
James Exon (D)
Charles Thone (R)

Nevada:
Paul Laxalt (R)
Chic Hect (R)


New Hampshire:
Maurice Murphy (R)
Restique Skinner (R)


New Jersey:
Thomas Kean (R)
Millicent Fenwick (R)


New Mexico:
David F. Cargo (R)
Bart Novak (R)


New York:
Hamilton Fish IV (R)
Al Green (R)

North Carolina:
Robert Burren Morgan (D)
John Ingram (D)


North Dakota:
Mark Andrews (R)
Warren F. Ford (R)


Ohio:
John Glenn (D)
James Traficant (D)

Oklahoma:
David Boren (D)
Wes Watkins (D)

Oregon:
Victor Atiyeh (R)
Mark Hatfield (R
)

Pennsylvania:
John Heinz (R)
John Murtha (D)

Rhode Island:
Claiborne Pell (D)
John Chafee (R)

South Carolina:
Strom Thurmond (R)
Ernest Hollings (D)

South Dakota:
George McGovern (D)
Larry Pressler (R)

Tennessee:
Marilyn Lloyd (D)
Jim Sasser (D)


Texas:
James "Fergie" Garner (R)
Dolph Briscoe (D)

Utah:
Jake Garn (R)
Orrin Hatch (R)


Vermont:
Lawrence I. Coventry (R)
Margaret P. Garland (R)


Virginia:
Andrew Miller (D)
Marshall Coleman (R)

Washington:
Santiago St. Avila (R)
Jasper Morrill (R)


West Virginia:
Jennings Randolph (D)
Robert Byrd (D)

Wisconsin:
Steve Gunderson (R)
Herb Kohl (R)

Wyoming:
Malcolm Wallop (R)
Alan Simpson (R)



Senate Composition:

R: 56 D: 42 WMP: 2

President Pro Tempore: Mark Hatfield (R-OR)
Majority Leader: Lawrence Coventry (R-VT)
Majority Whip: Alan Simpson (R-WY)

Minority Leader: Robert Byrd (D-WV)
Minority Whip: Richard McPherson (D-FL)

House Composition:

R: 234 D: 194 WMP: 7

Speaker of the House: Ericson Snell (R-NY)
Majority Leader: Spencer Adams (R-OR)
Majority Whip: Joel McFee Pritchard (R-WA)

Minority Leader: Charles Wilson (D-TX)
Minority Whip: Dick Gephardt (D-MO)
 * = Caucusing with the Working Man's Party.
3  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Dust In The Wind on: August 07, 2016, 12:03:46 am
1990 Elections

Alabama

Howell Heflin (D), 77.23% - Paul Smith (WMP), 22.77% (D-Hold)

Alaska

Ted Stevens (R), 52.67% - Stephen McAlpine (D), 39.82% - Roger Dee Roberts (WMP), 7.51% (R-Hold)

Arkansas

David Pryor (D), 68.72% - Ralph Forbes (WMP), 31.28% (D-Hold)

Colorado

Bill Armstrong (R), 54.16% - Nancy Dick, (D), 43.82% - John Shue (WMP), 2.02% (R-Hold)

Delaware

Joe Biden (D), 51.70% - Dale Wolf (R), 47.92% - Others, 0.38% (D-Hold)

Georgia


Sam Nunn (D), 100% (D-Hold)

Idaho

Orval Smylie (R), 45.13% - Ron Beitelspacher (D), 36.47% - John Stoddard (WMP), 18.40% (R-Hold)

Illinois

Alex Seith (D), 51.34% - Arnold Mertin (R), 45.78% - Others, 2.88% (D-Hold)

Iowa

Frederic Reid (R), 61.29% - Carl Jacobs (D), 38.71% (R-Hold)

Kansas

Joan Finney (D), 55.12% - Arthur Fitzgerald (R), 44.88% (D-Hold)

Kentucky

Walter Huddleston (D), 61.38% - James Lyons (R), 38.62% (D-Hold)

Louisiana

Bennett Johnston Jr (D), 58.04% - Scott McBride (D), 41.96% (D-Hold)

Maine

Ralph Stevenson (R), 65.27% - Tyler Liu (D), 32.89% - Others, 1.84% (R-Hold)

Massachusetts

William Weld (R), 59.13% - John Silber (D), 40.87% (R-Hold)

Michigan

William Milliken (R), 47.31% - James Lynch (D), 42.64 % - Leroy Monroe (I), 10.05% (R-Hold)

Minnesota

Richard Akers (R), 54.79% - Nora Christiansen (D), 45.21% (R-Pick up)

Mississippi

Patton Wyde (D), 74.61% - Daniel Chambers (I), 25.39% (D-Hold)

Montana

Helen Brisco (R), 59.20% - Shepherd Franklin (D), 36.51% - Pat Sibley (WMP), 4.29% (R-Hold)

Nebraska

James Exon (D), 53.51% - Edgar Lloyds (R), 46.49% (D-Hold)

New Hampshire

Restique Skinner (R), 54.45% - Jordan Flanders (D), - 39.34% - Others, 6.21% (R-Hold)

New Jersey

Thomas Kean (R), 65.31% - Angelo Costello (D), 34.69% (R-Hold)

New Mexico

Bart Novak (R), 50.12% - Bruce King (D-NM), 47.60% - Others, 2.28% (R-Pick up)

North Carolina

John Ingram (D), 57.84% - Lamar Richardson (WMP), 42.16% (D-Hold)

Oklahoma

David Boren (D), 54.18% - Marsha Calhoum (R), 45.82% (D-Hold)

Oregon

Victor Atiyeh (R), 67.23% - Sam Burns (D), 32.77% (R-Hold)

Rhode Island


Claiborne Pell (D), 58.71% - Stephen Bryant (R), 41.29% (D-Hold)

South Carolina

Strom Thurmond (R), 52.85% - Gale Fuller (D), 47.15% (R-Hold)

South Dakota

Larry Pressler (R), 56.29% - Edward Schumacher (D), 43.71% (R-Hold)

Tennessee


Marilyn Lloyd (D), 55.09% - Herman Willis (R), 37.46% - Stan Mortensen (WMP), 7.45% (D-Hold)

Texas

Dolph Briscoe (D), 48.17% - Bill Archer (R), 44.60% - Others, 7.23% (D-Pick up)

Virginia

Andrew Miller (D), 51.27% - Clark Cannon (R), 48.73% (D-Hold)

West Virginia

Jennings Randolph (D), 100% (D-Hold)

Wyoming

Alan Simpson (R), 100% (R-Hold)

4  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: New Register Thread on: August 04, 2016, 07:03:28 pm
Apocrypha
Massachusetts
Harambe Freedom Party
5  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Dust In The Wind on: July 30, 2016, 10:35:17 pm
Distant Whispers: 1990

Not much had happened in the Senate since Thad’s sponsorship and passing of the campaign finance reform bill. Summer recess was only a month away, and most Senators were more likely to have reelection on their minds than legislation. Instead of succumbing to absenteeism like he might have in years past, Thad took time to ingratiate himself with members of the Republican Caucus that were not in his insular circle of Lawrence, Stevenson, et al. It wasn’t enough outreach to establish himself as a future Majority Leader, but he did improve his standing with rank and file Republicans.

When summer came, most of the legislators left Washington as if they were migratory birds. Some left to get a head-start on their reelection bids, while others left just to get a head-start on leisure. Thad’s home in Maine was more for maintaining appearances than it was for residence, so he opted to stay in Washington and avail himself to the nightlife of the capital. Though they were both Maine natives, Thad found himself spending more time with Cynthia now than when they both were at home.

It wasn’t until a morning in June that Thad O’Connor heard knocking on his bedroom door. He hastened to open it, only to be greeted by the President himself. “Good morning, Thad,” smiled Areus Ho’kee. “It’s been a few months since we’ve spoken in person,” he said. “Indeed it has. What have you been doing while Congress is on recess?” asked Thad. “The little things. I spent a week in Block Island, and then went to Nantucket.

Normally this would be considered campaigning, but now it’s just vacationing,” Areus joked. The two laughed for a moment, but then Areus’ visage changed from laughter to one of grave seriousness. “This Fourth of July, I’m inviting only my most trusted company to the lobby downstairs. I have it on good information that you’ve been idle during this summer. Surely you can come that day? You won’t even have to leave the house,” asked Areus. “Of course,” said Thad.

Within a week, it was Independence Day. After Thad had an evening meal of roast beef and mashed potatoes, courtesy of the estate’s kitchen, he made his way down the stairs once more to the familiar lobby. The normally spatial room had just looked empty; only Areus Ho’kee, Abimelech Delroy, and Eric Snell were there to greet him. “Good evening,” said Thad to the party. “I’m glad you could make it, Thad. I don’t think this could’ve gone on in earnest without you present,” said Areus as he gave Thad a hug.

“We’re just waiting on Lawrence. I didn’t think the nightlife in Vermont was so vibrant that he’d be tardy in showing up,” said Eric. “There’s no hard deadline, but it’d be nice if he got here soon,” replied Areus. As if on cue, the sound of thick boots descending down the staircase emanated through the building, and Lawrence was present. “No nightlife, just spending a bit of time with a special lady in my life,” grinned Lawrence.

Eric glanced at Lawrence with disdain. “You know my feelings on that issue,” he said. Areus was quick to change the subject. “Men, we should not be arguing over issues of timeliness and fidelity, or an alleged lack thereof. The fact that I have invited only three of you out of the dozens of Mavericks in Congress should indicate that you have a special designation in my heart, and that more important matters are at hand. Today is a special day,” said Areus.

Lawrence grinned. “Speaking of which, why did you invite us on the Fourth of July, of all dates? I’ve never known you to fetishize boilerplate imagery of American patriotism, even in front of the camera.” Areus chuckled. “To me, this date is more relevant to the future than the past: I chose it because of how it coincides with the midterm election, which is the purpose of this meeting. When you couple the bad press that the Democratic Party has had with the legislative dominance and public approval that our party has enjoyed, these midterms are an opportunity that we must exploit to the fullest.

Lawrence, what success do you have to report on that front?” asked Areus. Lawrence bit his tongue, not prepared for the line of questioning. “We need to manage our expectations a bit. While the narrative is favorable to us, the landscape isn’t: lots of senate races in lost cause states like Louisiana and North Carolina. I did avail myself of what opportunities presented themselves, though. In New Mexico, the incumbent Bruce King has a history of winning tight races. Gary Johnson was a prospect that I coveted highly for the task, but he was more interested in remaining Governor.

I managed to recruit a man for the job: Bart Novak, a two-term State Senator. Bruce King has the advantage of incumbency, but your administration and the immigration reform act are very popular there. I think we have even odds at taking that seat. The other opportunity that we have is Minnesota. Conspicuously, Walter Mondale isn’t running for reelection, and that state has soured on Democrats in the past decade. The candidate I found there is named Richard Akers, a physicist at University of Minnesota. He’s a bit of a dark horse, as he’s never held elective office before and disagrees with some of your decisions as President, but I found him to be the most amenable and compelling option,” said Lawrence.

Areus nodded, before turning to Eric. “And how have you managed so far in recruiting talent?” he asked. Eric smiled from ear to ear. “In the House of Representatives, every seat is up every two years. My philosophy is to cast a wide net and hope for a handful of pearls. Through communications with local Republican Party chapters, I was able to recruit nearly forty candidates for the House, mostly in districts that are either open or held by a Democrat and expected to be competitive,” said Eric. Areus seemed pleased. “On that note, I don’t mean to overstep my bounds, but I went a step further. During my scouting, I met an activist names Restique Skinner, who seemed enthusiastic to support the Maverick agenda,” said Eric.

Thad O’Connor was familiar with the name; he had met Restique Skinner while campaigning on Areus’ behalf in New Hampshire. They got along well, but Thad had not heard of him since. “I persuaded him to mount a primary campaign against Senator Malcolm McLane. Senator McLane is not bad, but he lacks the youth and conviction of Restique, who is far more conservative on matters of taxation and spending. I figured that the benefit far outweighed the risk in a state like New Hampshire,” said Eric.

Areus clapped his hands. “Splendid! I love the enthusiasm!” he exclaimed. Thad O’Connor felt a bit confused. “President, I met Restique Skinner two years ago while campaigning for you in New Hampshire. He was running against Don Aitken, a man that you had endorsed in that race and who now is your Transportation Secretary. He’s now running against Malcolm McLane, who you supported six years ago. I can attest to the strength of Restique’s virtue, but does it not look like bad faith to so readily switch sides?” asked Thad.

“The last time Malcolm McLane was running for Senate, the body was nearly two-thirds Democratic, and he seemed like the most viable Republican to win the Senate seat. It was only logical to support him in an attempt to wrest control from the Democrats. As for Don Aitken, I supported that man as a means to curry favor with those who were voting for Weicker in New Hampshire. Those were actions borne out of expedience.  Now that we’ve secured the Presidency, those ties are irrelevant. Rather than put past allegiances towards certain individuals on a pedestal, we need to focus on the agenda itself. Everything else ought to be secondary.”
6  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Dust In The Wind on: July 23, 2016, 10:45:52 pm
Realized that since this website blocks imgur, most people probably never saw the 1988 County Map. Updated here.
7  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Dust In The Wind on: July 20, 2016, 10:38:25 pm
If you don't mind me asking, what is Winthrop P. Rockefeller up to?

Given the fact that Arkansas is one of the most Democratic states in the nation, I can't imagine he's doing too much as far as elective office goes. Tongue

Although he might be able to parlay the fact that he's an in-law to the current President into some administrative appointment.
8  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Dust In The Wind on: July 20, 2016, 08:04:33 pm
TIME – CAMPAIGN FINANCE OVERHAUL
April 23rd, 1990

The Boys are Coming Home

During the first week of November 1989, President Areus Ho’kee signed the biggest piece of legislation he has pushed for thus far as President: the Return to Normalcy Act. Amongst other things, the Return to Normalcy Act called for an indiscriminate withdrawal of United States military forces from countries in the Eastern Hemisphere. This included Iran, a country that has been the focal point of United States foreign policy since the late Seventies, and in its periphery since the Fifties.

The initial invasion of Iran was launched in March of 1982, which saw the deployment of 200,000 troops through the passages of the border that Iran shared with Turkey. The objective of the American military was simply the subjugation of the Iranian Government, as restitution for both the loss of American embassy workers and the Shah, who had been seen as an ally of the United States. The execution of this invasion went straight for the proverbial jugular: Tehran, the capital of Iran.

The American military went to work, and within two years they had occupied Tehran, along with other major population centers in Western Iran. Instead of surrender, the Iranian military employed salted earth tactics and took to bombing their own capital city with SCUD missiles, while retreating to Eastern Iran and its more treacherous mountain terrain. By this point, the American public had been starved for peace, and there also had been a change in American leadership. President Lloyd Bentsen, who was significantly less hawkish than his predecessor, took a more conservative approach. Rather than have a battle of attrition for another decade, Bentsen withdrew from Iran and concentrated military resources along the western border, where oil is in abundance and is the backbone of Iran’s economy.

It is unclear whether the seizure of the oil wells was simply to confiscate their product, or if it was to draw the Iranian government into submission, but external forces would confound this plan. The absence of the Iranian government in Western Iran, as well as United States occupation of Qom and atrocities committed in Kermanshah led to the festering of rogue militant groups. Eventually these groups conducted a surprise attack along several installations on the western border, destroying several derricks and removing a crucial piece of collateral for the United States.

The raid dealt a further blow to the war’s already poor popularity among American voters. Within a month, Americans elected Areus Ho’kee, who ran on a staunchly anti-war platform. A year later he would sign the aforementioned Return to Normalcy Act, which signaled an end to United States occupation in Iran. American General Foster McDonald negotiated an armistice with the Iranian government, which would gradually cede the territory back to them concurrent with the withdrawal of United States troops.

As of the past month, over 50,000 troops have returned home from Iran, which is welcome news to the families of those soldiers and to public that is weary of war, between Iran and Vietnam.

Congress passes O’Connor-Westman bill

Last week, the Senate passed the Ethics in Campaign Finance Act, known short-handedly as O’Connor-Westman. Two Senators from rural states, one a Republican (Thad O’Connor) and the other a Democrat (Scott Westman), found common ground in proposing a bill to provide stricter oversight and regulation of the financing of federal campaigns. The bill was signed by President Areus Ho’kee, who spoke favorably of it weeks ago.

 The Ethics in Campaign Finance Act establishes the maximum donation from a private citizen towards a campaign at $1,300 for every four months. It also establishes a separate category of donations from labor unions, corporations, and other entities at $50,000 for every four months. Under the ECFA, donations from private citizens are protected under anonymity (unless indicted for campaign finance fraud) while donations from the other aforementioned entities are to be public knowledge.

The Ethics in Campaign Finance Act also appropriates money for the creation of the Campaign Finance Agency, a new federal department tasked with the enforcement of auditing political entities and prosecuting campaign finance fraud. Under the ECFA, punishments for individuals committing campaign fraud are up to $15,000 or 5 years in prison, and up to a $100,000 fine for public entities.

Aye: Jefferson Dent (R-AL), Clark Gruening (D-AK), Jim Kolbe (R-AZ), Dale Bumpers (D-AR), David Pryor (D-AR), Pete McCloskey (R-CA), Ed Zschau (R-CA), Gary Hart (D-CO), Lowell Weicker (R-CT), Joe Biden (D-DE), William Roth (R-DE), Sam Nunn (D-GA), Daniel Inouye (D-HI), Spark Matsunaga (D-HI),Orval Smylie (R-ID), Jim Edgar (R-IL), Alex Seith (D-IL), Richard Lugar (R-IN), Frederic Reid (R-IA), Jim Leach (R-IA), Bennett Johnston Jr (D-LA), Thad O’Connor (R-ME), Ralph Stevenson (R-ME), Wayne Gilchrest (R-MD), Ted Kennedy (D-MA), William Weld (R-MA), Mic Ceriel (R-MI), William Milliken (R-MI), Walter Mondale (D-MN), David Durenburger (R-MN), Scott Westman (D-MT), Helen Brisco (R-MT), Chic Hect (R-NV), Malcolm McLane (R-NH), Maurice Murphy (R-NH), Thomas Kean (R-NJ), Millicent Fenwick (R-NJ), Hamilton Fish (R-NY), Al Green (R-NY), Robert B. Morgan (D-NC), Mark Andrews (R-ND), Warren F. Ford (R-ND), James Traficant (D-OH), Victor Atiyeh (R-OR), Mark Hatfield (R-OR), John Chafee (R-RI), George McGovern (D-SD), Larry Pressler (R-SD), James Garner (R-TX), Orrin Hatch (R-UT), Lawrence Coventry (R-VT), Margaret Garland (R-VT), Marshall Coleman (R-VA), Santiago St. Avila (R-WA), Jasper Morrill (R-WA), Steve Gunderson (R-WI), Herb Kohl (R-WI), Alan Simpson (R-WY), Malcolm Wallop (R-WY) (59)

Nay: Howell Heflin (D-AL), Ted Stevens (R-AK), Bob Stump (D-AZ), Bill Armstrong (R-CO), Lawton Chiles (D-FL), Richard McPherson (D-FL), John D. Russell (D-GA), George Hansen (WMP-ID), Floyd Fithian (D-IN), Joan Finney (D-KS), Robert Dole (R-KS), Walter Huddleston (D-KY), Wendell Ford (D-KY), Mike Foster (D-LA), Chris Long (D-MD), Patton Wyde (D-MS), Gillespie Montgomery (D-MS), Thomas Eagleton (D-MO), Charles Thone (R-NE), James Exon (D-NE), Paul Laxalt (R-NV), Bruce King (D-NM), David F. Cargo (R-MN), John Glenn (D-OH), David Boren (D-OK), Wes Watkins (D-OK), John Murtha (D-PA), John Heinz (R-PA), Strom Thurmond (R-SC), Ernest Hollings (D-SC), Marilyn Lloyd (D-TN), Jim Sasser (D-TN), Bill Archer (WMP-TX), Andrew Miller (D-VA), Robert Byrd (D-WV), Jennings Randolph (D-WV) (36)

Abstain: Christopher Shays (R-CT), John Danforth (R-MO), John Ingram (D-NC), Claiborne Pell (D-RI), Jake Garn (R-UT) (5)
9  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Unfortunate Son on: July 16, 2016, 11:46:30 pm
The Mattingly campaign: a 21st century version of the Whig platform presented by demographically prototypical Jackson Democrat. Tongue
10  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Dust In The Wind on: July 13, 2016, 11:27:52 pm
Driving Fourth Gear in a Hard Bargain: 1990

Thad spoke with Ericson Snell and Areus Ho’kee about the details of campaign finance reform for another hour, before he bade the two good bye and returned to his quarters. Cynthia was not there, presumably enjoying the comforts of the city. Thad took the initiative to call Lawrence Coventry, who quickly agreed before ending the conversation. Relieved that Lawrence was on board, he dialed Scott Westman’s phone number, anticipating a longer conversation than the one he just had.

The ringer ran a few times before a gruffy voice answered. “Scott Westman. Hello?” it asked.  “Hello Scott, it’s Thad. It has been quite some time since our last correspondence. I call you under the auspices of working with the President towards campaign finance reform. What say you about meeting up at the Drunken Dutchman some time tomorrow?” asked Thad. Scott Westman sounded apprehensive. “I can’t guarantee any agreement, but I suppose I’ll meet with you,” he said.

The next afternoon, Thad O’Connor made his way through the Drunken Dutchman. Its chairs were empty and its air was smoke free. Thad quickly spotted Lawrence, who sat at a small table replete with two bottles, one of gin and the other of tonic water. Thad sat opposite him and made the proper obeisances before sitting down. After an hour of waiting, Scott Westman strolled through the bar and sat with them.

Lawrence Coventry grinned. “Good afternoon Scott! Glad you could make it. This first drink is on me, as a courtesy of our meeting,” said Lawrence. “Thank you,” said Scott Westman as he sat down, before looking at Thad. “It’s been awhile since I’ve seen you, Thad. How have you been?” he asked. “Not bad. I hope that you’ve kept the dust off of my couch?” Thad joked. Westman humored Thad with a laugh. “Yeah, it really has been awhile.”

That gave Thad pause for thought. His relationship with Scott Westman had been an important part to the phenomenon of liberals voting for Mark Hatfield, and also to the Republican coup in 1986. However, Thad hadn’t seen Westman since the night of the Iowa Caucus, coinciding with his journey to see Areus’ ascendancy to the Presidency. They worked so hard to lay down the foundation for something big, but never took the time to gaze upon the finished product. It really had been awhile.

Thad’s pensive trance was ended by the crescendo of bubbling water, as Lawrence poured a drink for Westman. “I’d like to speak with you today about co-sponsorship of a campaign finance reform bill on behalf of the President. You’ve spent your whole political career railing against big interests, and also have spent your whole career representing a small state and presenting yourself as an outsider. Do you have an interest in helping sponsor a bill tackling campaign finance reform?” asked Lawrence.

Westman responded with some reluctance. “Four years ago, I stuck my neck out for the Republican Party, of all things, just to stick it to Lloyd Bentsen and the Senate Democrats. I gained nothing out of that, other than forwarding the career of Ted Stevens and making my own re-election bid more complicated. Now, you two have written a ‘reform’ bill and are asking me to lease you my credibility. So far, I’m not convinced that the Mavericks are anything other than Rockefeller Republicans who dress up like they’re in a psychedelic rock band. Why should I do that?” asked Westman.

Lawrence grinned. “I’m flattered by that comparison, Scott,” said Lawrence, who was wearing a white button-up shirt with oversized cufflinks. “All jokes aside, there are several reasons that you should support this bill. Firstly, I’m sure you’ve been paying attention to the news, and have at least heard about the Snell Commission. A man gets elected President with large donations from military contractors, then goes to not only hire many in his State Department, but also passes bills subsidizing them through graft and warfare. Doesn’t it seem like there’s a conflict of interest here that demands oversight?

Secondly, consider the tone that this bill will set for the public discourse. From a partisan perspective, the Snell Commission serves as a blistering indictment of how contemporary Democratic politics work, and that only Republicans are willing to make the right fix. However, if you, a dyed in the wool Democrat, would lend your name to this bill, then that would make this a bi-partisan effort. Besides, you never supported Jackson – why worry of his legacy?

If these two reasons don’t convince you, then consider this: your own career. President Ho’kee is very popular in Montana, and Republicans look strong there. Meanwhile, you have alienated base Democrats by opposing their past President, and voting for Mark Hatfield, amongst other apostasies. If you oppose this for purely partisan reasons, then you will not only lose swing voters, but also Democrats who may think that same way.” After finishing off his harangue, Lawrence took a stiff drink.

Scott Westman furrowed his brow. “That’s a pretty persuasive argument, but I’m going to have to hear the details of this bill.”
11  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Dust In The Wind on: July 08, 2016, 04:24:53 pm
Is Birch Bayh considering running for anything in 1990 or 1992(besides the Presidency)?

That asked, this is a great timeline, and I think I see now why you're so popular.

Popular? I don't know about that. I've been a ghost on here lately. Tongue

Thanks for the accolades though, I appreciate it!

Anyway, as to the question: probably not. Birch Bayh was selected for the Vice Presidency when Lloyd Bentsen ascended the Presidency because he was seen as well-respected by his colleagues and had a long tenure of experience and service. However, he was also an easy confirmation for the Senate because he wouldn't have been of great electoral advantage to Bentsen's eventual '88 campaign.

Indiana hasn't voted Democratic in this timeline, but Scoop Jackson did very well there in his reelection bid (came within 2%) and Democrats actually retained Bayh's Senate seat despite 1986 being a Republican wave.
12  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Dust In The Wind on: July 07, 2016, 11:58:15 pm
TIME – A New Year’s Resolution
March 8th, 1990

Congress passes Massive Global Reform Bill

Just days ago, President Ho’kee inscribed his signature onto the Western Commerce Streamline Act of 1990, more commonly referred to as O’Connor-Snell, after the names of its sponsors. A proud Ho’kee boldly claimed to the media that he was signing “the most important legislation in the United States since the Louisiana Purchase.” While such a claim may be hyperbolic, the bill is a massive retooling of a plethora of foreign issues for the United States.

One issue that O’Connor-Snell legislated was tariffs. The bill was particularly daring in this regard, considering the battle with Japanese imports that American manufacturing was decisively losing. O’Connor-Snell vastly liberalizes trade with every country in the Western Hemisphere, although some of these are conditional on reciprocity from the country in question. Free trade with Panama may not be happening for some time.

Consistent with the theme of foreign relations, O’Connor-Snell also tackles the issue of immigration. Since the repeal of the bracero program, the United States only had a patchwork system for immigration and guest-workers. Between that and a porous border, the result has been an illegal alien population estimated at eleven million. What the O’Connor-Snell bill does is grant amnesty to those eleven million as a band aid, while making adjustments to the immigration process and work visas.

Blanket amnesty and tweaks to the law would be pilloried by some as merely changing the law in the face of adversity. However, the O’Connor-Snell proposal has an additional provision: millions of dollars proposed for the construction of a fence along the border of Mexico. This measure, along with others, signals to certain interest groups that the administration is serious about curbing illegal immigration. It also serves to sway the votes of a handful of right-wing Senators who may otherwise be opposed to this bill.

Indictments Made

The so-called “Snell Commission,” a project undertaken by the House Committee on Ethics, finally concluded after conducting an investigation that clouded three election cycles. In its final reports, the committee named over a hundred people, ranging from Democratic Party officials, to military contractors, and to State Department employees, in a largely cast net of “unethical campaign finance conduct.” While a number of people are mentioned for sums of less than four thousand dollars, some conspicuous entities stand out, such as Rock Island Armory, Martin Alvarez (former Chairman of the California Democratic Party), and Frank Shrontz, who served as Postmaster General under President Jackson.

The Justice Department announced it would be pressing charges toward the concerned parties, mere hours after the news broke. President Ho’kee said to the press, “If you were to take the time filing through these various receipts, it looks fairly obvious that there was an effort by various military interest groups to buy out our foreign policy. Nonetheless, Attorney General Baker has experience in these matters, and I trust him to reach a reasonable conclusion,” said the President.

Senator Patton Wyde may have made the loudest objection toward the Snell Commission’s findings. “I have read the report, and the sum of its findings are as follows: defense contractor donates to a state affiliate for the Democratic Party. State affiliate winds up transferring money toward the Democratic National Convention. There are other connections, but this investigation’s findings seem like nothing more than guilt by association. I maintain that the whole motivation for this investigation is every bit as political as its findings, and that Republicans still haven’t gotten over losing that election,” said Wyde.

Former Governor Jerry Brown, who is also a prospective candidate for President, had a slightly different position on the issue. “As Senator, Scoop Jackson had a long past with Boeing, and it would not be surprising if there was some intimacy between his campaign and the defense industry. However, rather than viewing this as an indictment of the Democratic Party, we should use it as a microscope to the issue of campaign finance reform, and accept that neither party is immune to the influence of suspect money,” said Governor Brown.


Presidential Approval Ratings

March 5th, 1990

Generic Ballot Preference (Congress)
Republican: 51%
Democratic: 36%
Working Man’s Party: 9%
Undecided: 4%
13  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Dust In The Wind on: July 07, 2016, 11:51:09 pm
Hangman’s Knot: 1990

Thad O’Connor maintained idle conversation with Ericson Snell for another hour, before the two agreed to part ways. Thad made his way back to Areus’ estate with good news in hand, only to find out that the President would not be home for the night. “Areus told us that he’s going to be away for the night, but should be back tomorrow evening,” said the guard at the door. After complying with a quick security check, Thad shuffled his way down the stairs and toward his own room.

He woke up late the next day, seeing Cynthia lounging next to him on the bed. “What time is it?” he asked. “Quarter past noon. What were you doing out so late anyway?” Cynthia asked. “Eric and I were negotiating the bill about free trade. Is Areus here?” he asked. “I think so. I heard a lot of commotion coming down the stairs an hour ago. Perhaps that’s him?” she said.

Thad O’Connor hurried his way down the hallway in anticipation of Areus’ return. As he entered the basement lobby, he spotted two figures: Areus Ho’kee and Ericson Snell. The lamentations that Eric had about Areus’ governing style seemed like a distant memory, as the two were vivaciously laughing and talking. Each had a glass in hand, while Areus clutched a manila folder under his armpit.

“I assume that you two have discussed the terms of the immigration deal?” asked Thad. “Yes. We get free trade and citizenship for eleven million illegal aliens, in exchange for a border fence being built. That sounds like an adequate deal to me. Good work. However, what we’re discussing now is this scandal with various Democratic donors,” said Ho’kee, hoisting the manila folder.

He was nearly foaming at the mouth. “For years, we called them out for being bought and sold by interests, whether it was by the defense industry, by agriculture, or by plain old pork barrel spending. Now, we’ve got the records to hold them dead to rights. Amongst other things, we have direct correspondence between the Illinois Democratic Party, employees at the Department of Defense, and various arms contractors. I’ll spare you the details, Thad, because you’ll be hearing them on national television before long,” said Areus.

“As somebody who’s intimately aware of the details, where exactly do we go forward with all of this? Considering the current state of our campaign finance laws, I’m not sure how we get any sort of meaningful sentencing on the parties involved,” asked Eric. “Some of the names in question worked for the Department of Defense during Jackson’s Presidency. Regardless of what the campaign finance laws say, there’s an obvious issue with graft when it comes to publicly paid salaries. This should be fairly straightforward.

Besides, even if this does not result in any major criminal convictions, this is still a blockbuster for us. For nearly a century, Republicans have been dogged by the perception of being bought by elitist interests and being unresponsive to the layman. This investigation helps lay the blame of a foreign policy debacle squarely on the Democrats and wealthy defense industries, and solidifies our position as reformers heading into the Midterm elections this year,” said Areus.

“What’s the end-game here, though? I spent the better half of a decade filing through more paperwork than if I had been audited, and also was the face of what many deemed to be an embellished scandal. If all we’re going to do is score a few political points, then I don’t think I’d count this as a strategic victory,” said Ericson.

Areus bit his lip. “You were first put to task on this story in 1985, the year in which President Jackson was sworn in for his second term. Despite the underwhelming findings, this story was in the headlines every year, with each small uncovering that took place. Each small step toward the final conclusion helped contribute toward a millstone hanging around the neck of the Democratic Party. If you have the same mindset as me, you want that millstone to sag and grow into a noose.

If we make the most of this story this year, then our party will make gains in the House and Senate. The former helps you, as Speaker, and the latter is of mutual interest to us. That in itself is a strategic victory for us, as it weakens the Democratic Party, strengthens your Speakership, and helps bolster our numbers at the most opportune moment in our lifetimes. However, this also gives my administration a prime opportunity to legislate on an issue that is usually a third-rail for Republicans: campaign finance reform,” said Areus, before taking a long drink.

“I’m not necessarily opposed, but why would such an issue be considered landmark for your administration, and how does it further our objectives?” asked Eric. “I have the feeling that when these findings are made public, it’s going to raise a new level of awareness towards the issue of campaign contributions. Typically, this is an issue that Democrats would rally around, but how is that party going to react when it exposes their last President?

Scoop Jackson’s legacy will be a point of contention in the next Democratic Primary. There will be those that defend it, for its massive public spending projects, as well as for a want of its widespread electoral appeal. On the other hand, there will also be those who condemn Jackson’s legacy for being too militaristic, and also too opaque and subservient to political expediency. With the right amount of prescience, we could have our boot at their throat, and a simple thrust would divide their party and result in a second presidential term and extended dominance in Congress.

This will require cautious political maneuvering. During your investigation, Democrats tried to set a narrative that this was just Republican sour-grapes. I think the evidence is convincing on its own, but this will be easier to sell to the American populace if we make this look bi-partisan,” said Areus. At that moment he turned to Thad. “Thad, from what I understand, you have a great relationship with Scott Westman. I’d like you to get your hands dirty again, working with him and Lawrence on this.”
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17  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Dust In The Wind on: June 17, 2016, 11:48:56 pm
Given Ho'kee semi-"Do Nothing" status at this point in time, who among the opposition--beyond Patton Wyde--are scheming to replace him? Is he being railed as "the candidate of change who, so far, has failed to deliver"? And how do Ho'kee's approval ratings stand?

The last approval ratings survey had him at 54% nationally, dated before Thanksgiving. Since passing the Return to Normalcy Act, he's actually worked to shake off the "do-nothing" perception he had in the first few months of his term. Paradoxically, his approval ratings were actually better during that time period, just because of the "post-inauguration bounce."

As to who in the Democratic Party would be vying to replace him, several candidates were mentioned in a previous update I linked. Outside of those, some potential suspects:

John Murtha: Senator from a swing state who managed to survive re-election in the bloodbath of 1986. Has moderate views on issues like abortion and foreign policy, and could connect with the "Jackson Democrat" who helped sway the election of 1984. Considering that he would be sixty upon inauguration, and that he's a veteran, he could be in a position to attack Areus as youthful and inexperienced in the event of a foreign policy crisis.

Bill Clinton: Long-term Governor of Arkansas - part of the Outer South, which was Ground Zero for both of Jackson's elections. Gave the Keynote Address at the 1988 Democratic Convention. Charismatic, ambitious.

Birch Bayh: Birch Bayh was tapped as a stand-in Vice President by Lloyd Bentsen, owing to the respect that the former had amongst his colleagues. Bayh has over twenty years in the Senate under his belt, as well as the ability to get elected in a Midwestern state, which is likely a necessary asset that any Democratic nominee must have. Additionally, he has credentials when it comes to election reform (Electoral College) which could give him an edge if Campaign Finance becomes an issue.

If this answer is unsatisfactory, then I should have an update written soon which may be more to your liking.
18  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Unfortunate Son on: June 17, 2016, 11:08:35 pm
Sounds like Hart has been diminished to being the titular leader of his party, outside of non-partisan issues like national defense. This doesn't bode well for a dovish party trying to retain the White House in the wake of a national tragedy.

More humorously, there are some interesting similarities in here and our own contemporary politics. In real life, Donald Trump captured the Republican nomination after fear-mongering about free trade and immigration, while Romney (last election's Republican nominee) is #NeverTrump. ITTL, Mattingly has gone on the record condemning globalism, and Romney is an actual Democrat!

Last note, and devoid of substance: I'm imagining that Kate Mattingly would take on the role of First Lady similar to the way Laura Bush did.
19  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Dust In The Wind on: June 17, 2016, 03:27:37 pm
Solid update. What month of 1990 are we in?

Thanks homie! It's in January, as the previous updates were discussed over New Year's eve. Mid-term elections are this year.
20  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Why has this post of mine been deleted for trolling? on: June 16, 2016, 11:55:31 pm
And a million posts have made a similar argument with Trump's skin color

There ought to be a difference between making fun of a bad tan and saying "lol he's black so he should be brown on the map!"
21  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Dust In The Wind on: June 16, 2016, 11:51:35 pm
Tremors: 1990

Thad and Eric argued for another hour, before reaching a consensus on their bill. “So, the final terms are as follows: free trade with every country in the Western hemisphere, amnesty for illegal immigrants living in America, and we build a fence in order to curb border trespassing?” asked Eric. “The two biggest things that President Areus desired were amnesty and free trade with the Western Hemisphere. Regardless of his views on the matter, the cost of a border fence should be insignificant. We have a deal,” said Thad, before shaking hands with Ericson.

The two continued to drink for another hour. After some idle conversation, Thad spoke up in a more serious tone. “Eric, I would like to voice my appreciation for your willingness to work with me on this issue. As somebody who has been in Congress for longer than I have, I am sure that you have a history replete with experience and stories. From one legislator to another, what has it been like during your time?” he asked.

Ericson smiled. “I have a unique perspective. I was elected to my first term in the House in 1972, alongside President Nixon’s massive victory over McGovern. Despite winning a forty-nine state landslide, all that followed was several years of floundering and ineptitude by most of my caucus, until they were utterly destroyed in 1978 and 1980. Things were so bad that I was elected Minority Leader in 1980, despite only having been in the House for seven years. As I’m sure you remember, it looked like Republicans were a doomed party.

I met Lawrence Coventry and President Ho’kee days before the Election of 1980, when all was over but the casting of ballots. After a few hours of talking, we’d each agreed that we felt frustrated at both the statist inclinations of the Democrats and the Republicans who were helpless to stop them. In response, we formed the Mavericks: an informal caucus amongst us, whose raison d’etre was to reform the Republican Party and combat the bloated Democratic Majority.

We didn’t agree upon any sort of hierarchy when forming the Maverick pact, but Areus quickly emerged as the de-facto leader amongst our cohort, due to how effectively he networked and how many resources he had at his disposal. I devoted hours of my time towards speaking on the floor against bills, while Areus was establishing contacts across the country. To his credit, he was the one who made the difference in nominating Hatfield over Laxalt, and in securing the House for the Republicans in 1986,” said Eric, with a hint of remorse.

Thad expressed concern, asking, “What is wrong with that? Our party has been in a better position now than at any point in our lifetimes.” Eric sighed. “I grew up hearing stories of how my uncle, Bertrand Snell, was standing athwart the New Deal consensus despite the overwhelming majority that the Democrats had in Congress. His ambition was to be Speaker of the House, but both his own health and the GOP’s political fortunes were ailing, so he had to forego that dream.

Almost fifty years later, the Republicans took control of the House. As Minority Leader, I was in position to become the next Speaker of the House, and realize the dream that my uncle never did. However, Areus desired the Speakership, for the purpose of posturing for the Presidency. He promised that if he could have the Speakership for two years, I could have it for ‘the next eight’ and that I would hold significant sway over the agenda during his presidency. I assented, knowing that he had enough command over the younger Representatives to either take it anyway, or throw the caucus into freefall and elect a Democratic Speaker.

Areus managed to win the Presidency and with it, comfortable margins in both chambers of Congress. What have we done with it, other than environmental legislation and a foreign policy proposal? I understand that this free-trade bill is important, but the President seems reluctant to agree to it without a massive rider. I don’t see him pursuing further tax or entitlement reform in the future. I suppose my worry is that he’s squandering not only my biggest political ambition, but also the best chance we may have at these objectives, and whether I’ve misplaced trust in somebody I thought to be a friend,” said Eric.

“I think that is far from the case. In the time I have known Areus, he’s been an accommodating, if at times aggressive person. I understand where some of your concern is coming from, but I have faith that Areus has the same goals in mind. Perhaps he would be more receptive towards those issues if I were to mention your grievances when I inform him of this agreement?” Thad asked. Eric shook his head. “No. Other than the terms of the deal, I’d like if you kept this conversation between the two of us. I have the feeling that my best shot may be after the mid-term elections,” said Eric.
22  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Dust In The Wind on: June 10, 2016, 12:00:40 am
Don't do it, Eric! 😳

The amnesty, the free trade, or the wall? Tongue
23  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Dust In The Wind on: June 07, 2016, 12:37:14 am
Tempering: 1990

After the big talk that Areus Ho’kee had with the quartet, they concluded the meeting with casual conversation and headed back towards the basement, only to find that most of the company had already left. All that remained were Restique Skinner and Abimelech Delroy, who were enthralled in conversation with two women. Thad felt a pang of panic in his stomach, noticing his date was gone. “Where is Cynthia?” he blurted out. Areus placed a firm hand on Thad’s shoulder. “Relax. It’s nearly three in the morning. She probably went to bed,” he said.

Thad bid his goodbyes and was quick to scurry his way to his new suite. As promised, Cynthia was sound asleep in their bed, and Thad did his best to slink under the covers. Cynthia made no mention of New Year’s Eve and within a few days Thad O’Connor had a message on his answering machine. “Hey, Thad, it’s Eric. Come meet me at the Drunken Dutchman tonight,” it said.

Since Congress was in recess, neither Thad nor Cynthia had any duties to fulfill and the two of them had spent the first few days of the year lounging, reading, and listening to music. Thad received Ericson’s voicemail within an hour. “What are you guys meeting about?” asked Cynthia. “Eric and I are going to be discussing potential legislation. President Areus has figured that I ought to get a better grasp of crafting bills, and that Eric, being a respected congressional leader, would be a good mentor,” said Thad.

Two hours later, Thad was walking through the double-doors of the Drunken Dutchman and spotted Ericson Snell, sitting at a table replete with a large bottle of champagne. “Thad! Good to see you!” he exclaimed. “Thank you, Eric. I’m glad to be meeting you here, and am looking forward to getting my hands dirty with this legislation,” said Thad. He sat down and poured himself a glass from the champagne bottle on the table.

“To be honest with you, I’ve been in Congress since the early 1970’s and I’ve never written any legislation by hand. That’s why we hire staffers, and that’s a sucker’s job. All that we’re going to do tonight is speak about a topic and come to an agreement. Then, we co-sponsor it, meaning we each put a small portion of our reputation at stake by attaching our names to the bill. That’s essentially what Areus had intended for arranging our meeting tonight.

Getting all of that out of the way, something that Areus and I have been trying to come to a deal on is this massive bill about Central and South America. As Speaker of the House, what I’m after is a bill that lifts tariffs, liberalizes trade, and removes almost every other barrier inhibiting commerce between the United States and other countries in the Western Hemisphere, from Canada to Chile. As a fellow traveler, I assume you support that, Thad,” said Eric.

Thad nodded. “Indeed. The free flow of goods is important not only for the consumers of each country, but for the sake of inspiring producers to produce a superior product,” he said. Ericson grinned, responding, “I’m glad that we agree and we’re getting off on the right foot, but surely Areus has sent you here with some other agenda in-hand. What is it?” he asked.

Eric was right. Having been present on the balcony when Eric and Thad planned their meeting, Areus had spoken with Thad the next day about what he expected from this negotiation: amnesty of some form for the millions of illegal aliens that were living in the country. He had assured Thad that anything less would not only meet his swift veto, but also diminish his confidence in Thad.

“Well, the main point that President Areus emphasized was the normalization of the millions of illegal immigrants that currently live in America. He said he would not sign any bill pertaining to South America, so long as it did not right the wrong of our current border situation. I think that it is important we iron out those differences, or else we might be wasting our time in this meeting,” said Thad. Ericson Snell moved his seat back and grimaced. “So what Areus has essentially done here is frame an ultimatum as a negotiation.

Unless I agree to wholesale amnesty of all the illegal immigrants living in the United States, Areus is going to outright veto any legislation I send to his desk. Furthermore, he doesn’t deign to speak with me in person, but sends an emissary to try and deliver this raw deal. I mean no disrespect towards you, Thad, but I’m not feeling very receptive at the moment,” said Eric. Thad did not lose his resolve. “I fail to see how this is a raw deal from the get-go. Liberalization of trade laws is something that you have wanted for some time, and now is arguably the greatest opportunity in your career to get it.

Why is it that some form of amnesty is a non-starter when conjoined to an issue so important to you?” he asked. “The electoral implications of it are horrible. In the Election of 1980, Scoop Jackson and his Democratic Party made a killing because they had set the narrative that Republicans were not only incapable of managing the economy, but also indifferent to the concerns of working class Americans, since we had just fallen on the sword of the Kemp-Roth tax-cut proposal. They subsequently destroyed their own credibility with a massive public works bill that failed to deliver and a war that delivered failure.

In response to the perception of Democrats who were dithering about a solution and Republicans who were indifferent to one, people began to turn toward a third avenue – the Working Man’s Party. Despite a shoestring organization, it managed to cobble eight percent of the vote, driven largely due to anxiety over working class jobs. This resulted in a split of the votes, and is arguably the reason why we have the Presidency and Congress, essentially giving Areus a fresh start. I do not think that marginal voters in places like Ohio and Missouri would have preferred Areus over Bentsen.

What Areus wants to do with his fresh start here – whether he realizes it or not – is toss it to the wind. What sort of message does it send to the average worker if we grant citizenship to eleven million illegal aliens? That this is the same Republican Party of yesteryear? Let’s be honest with ourselves about the current situation. This is a time where unemployment has been high for a decade, income has gone down, and union employees have literally come to blows with their employers.

Meanwhile, these aliens undercut the labor market by working for cheaper wages, and also deprive the government of needed tax revenue. For us to grant these people legitimacy would be communicating to the average American worker that we are indifferent to their economic woes, and that our solution to the problem would be to legitimize it. Furthermore, what favors are we doing ourselves by adding these people? It’s fairly obvious that they would vote overwhelmingly Democratic,” said Eric.

Thad took a gulp of champagne before responding. “In one breath, you extolled the virtues of a historically unprecedented proposal that would lift all trade restrictions that the United States has with nearly every country in the Western Hemisphere, as if the merits of it were not even up for debate. In the next breath, you warned that we ought not grant citizenship to the eleven million illegal aliens that live here, because it may rile the sensibilities of workers who are concerned about their wages and certainty of employment.

In one breath, you do well to remember the Election of 1980: amongst other reasons, Republicans were routed because the economy was poor, and they were perceived as out of touch by championing a tax cut for the rich in the face of rising unemployment, gas prices, and inflation. In the next breath, you seem to lose your memory: President Jackson raised tariffs on foreign imports due to concerns about industry at home. That seems far removed from what you’re advocating here.

It is true that we likely owe our success to the fact that the Working Man’s Party drove a wedge into the electorate. That does not necessarily mean that these voters are ripe for the taking; Paul Laxalt ran a campaign that was built on angry Armstrong voters, protectionists, and disgruntled Democrats. If we are to gain the approval of these voters, it should be through improving the economy, instead of through parochial politics and pandering.

If you’re concerned about the fact that illegal aliens don’t pay revenue, then that is an argument as to why we should give them citizenship: so they can file legally and become taxpayers. The added bonus would be that these people would be allowed to qualify for housing loans and insurance, and can become integrated into our society, instead of keeping their money under the table.

Lastly, the economic conditions of these people are a short-term factor. If we were to spear-head an initiative to grant them citizenship, then there is little doubt that these people would have a natural inclination to vote Republican. Besides, voting is not static: if aliens are granted citizenship and the opportunity to earn an honest living, then they ought to be more inclined to vote our way within a few years, as they normalize into our economy. I fail to see how this is anything other than a win-win for us,” said Thad.

Ericson Snell bit his lip. “You make a good case, Thad. I wasn’t too warm to the idea, but perhaps there’s something to be said for the fact that thousands of people would flee their own country just to be part of the United States. That being said, I’d like to sign onto this deal with the stipulation that this problem never happen again,” said Ericson. “What do you mean?” asked Thad. “We build a wall on the border,” said Eric.
24  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: New Register Thread on: June 03, 2016, 11:26:00 pm
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25  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Unfortunate Son on: June 02, 2016, 10:00:42 pm
So is Mattingly to have the same relationship with Bryan as Reagan did with Ron?
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