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1  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Bill Clinton and Bill Cosby on: Today at 11:41:45 pm
Bill Cosby, to his very flimsy credit, is not a war criminal.

It makes perfect sense to nationalize energy. There's nothing wrong with a 100% capital gains tax and a $65 minimum wage. A plurality of Americans now say they prefer Socialism over Capitalism, so to dispute that is far-fetched. It's not the wrong way of doing things, just a different way of doing things.
2  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XIX: Melancholy and the Infinite Napping on: Today at 11:24:15 am
Eh, while bowling is a pathetic excuse for "exercise" (lol) it is not a bad idea for Jeff if he'll actually do it alongside eating better and walking. (Certainly better than just rotting away, watching Northwestern North Dakota State vs. Tulane) But then again, bowling can be pricey, so there's that consideration as well.

Spoiler: Bushie will spend $150 on "bowling gear" and only bowl once
3  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XIX: Melancholy and the Infinite Napping on: November 21, 2014, 09:12:31 pm
Bushie what did you eat today at Chick-Fil-A and McDonald's
4  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: NE1: Right to Unionize Act (Debating) on: November 20, 2014, 11:35:37 pm

For a libertarian, I'm actually pretty pro-union. I think that the right to organize goes hand-in-hand with freedom of association. That being said, this seems more a question of policy than a question of constitutional amendments.

Barnes' amendment is a bit better but I'm not sure that there's anything in the Northeast constitution as is that specifically prohibits collective bargaining or unionization. (The Northeast passed some equivalent to right-to-work in 2010 but most of it was gutted by the Supreme Court of Atlasia.)
5  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XIX: Melancholy and the Infinite Napping on: November 20, 2014, 07:54:19 pm
Reposted. You need to address this:

An inability to admit that your refusal to change (in spite of all the sound advice and ENCOURAGEMENT from so many over the years) has COST YOUR FAMILY UNNECESSARY MONEY is cowardly.

You want us to focus on the good? I tried that with you. A lot. Didn't work. You're no better off today than you were when you started this whole saga. And it is costing your family more now than it ever has.

Maybe it's not intentional, but it's deeply rooted in, at best, ignorance. More likely, you prefer only happiness where no one calls you on your BS.

Your inability to implement the smallest of change to better yourself HURT your family today. Wake up, Jeff. Your inaction has consequences that go beyond you!

Are you getting the picture yet? Your refusal to a) actually work to build a career and study your supposed skills, b) take better care of your health and lose weight and c) learn basic life skills like cooking or shopping on your own IS HURTING OTHER PEOPLE. This is not a consequence-free existence, Jeff. And consequences could hurt more than just you.

Are you happy your history ended up in your family spending ultimately unnecessary money on you? Are you happy they're $100 poorer because of it (and don't give me the $79.99 BS ... add taxes, time and travel, and you cost them $100). A positive attitude means nothing if you ignorantly continue to sh:t on other people.

Keep it up, Jeff. Ignore how you're killing yourself. Your family will have to pay for your funeral, too (average of $10,000). How does that make you feel?

I know things must change.  What I need is a new attitude on my health.  I asked God on the way home from work to give me that new attitude and the desire, willpower, and discipline to make the changes I need to make and stick to them.  In a few minutes, after I finish this glass of unsweetened iced tea, I am going to get me a glass of water.  That will make 4 glasses of water (counting the iced tea as water).  That will be a good finish to what was otherwise a rotten food day.  I didn't have breakfast and I had Whataburger for lunch.  That's a big no-no, I realize.  I felt awful this afternoon and my mood wasn't exactly great, either, because I was mad at myself for ordering and eating such slop.  We had beef and noodle casserole for dinner.  I had one and a half scoops and two slices of bread with the aforementioned iced tea.  Tomorrow, I will probably have Chick-fil-a for lunch and try to eat light when I go to the McDonald's on the turnpike for dinner.  I am seriously considering going back to my no fries and no ice cream diet that I did in September.  I will still eat potatoes when they are served to me, but I will not have any French fries.  Yes, my attitude needs to change and slowly, but surely, I will change this attitude.

6  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Dust In The Wind on: November 20, 2014, 01:45:16 am
Funnel: 1988

It was a sunny afternoon in Maine as Thad O'Connor and Ericson Snell waited in Ralph Stevenson's office. Thad had only awoken a few hours ago, and was thumbing through a local newspaper. "Good lord. 'Wyde nears majority in Michigan.' What is going on in that state?" asked Thad. "To be frank, a lot of the grunts working in automobile factories don't feel like they're getting a fair shake. Between Bentsen lifting the trade tariffs and the union strike, this seems like a logical conclusion," said Snell. Thad felt as if a nightcrawler slid down his back. "Enough to cradle themselves in the arms of one such as Wyde, though?"

"You would be surprised. Out of desperation, cornered creatures can do wild things in the interest of preservation. It's not hard to see how somebody like Wyde could be a figure of reassurance. What is concerning, however, is where these voters will go: these voters heavily disapprove of Bentsen, but will they vote for Ho'kee? Both favor lifting tariffs, and both favor the Social Security reform," responded Snell. "It is not as if these voters plausibly have an alternative, however. While the Working Man's Party is on the ballot, the only potential nominees for that outfit are David Duke and Eldridge Cleaver. At the end of the day these people will vote their livelihood, and vote for Areus," said Thad.

"You can correct me if this proves to be wrong, but I find it unlikely that either of those men end up as the nominee of the Working Man's Party. For all of its faults, the Working Man's Party is an establishment with millions of dollars invested in it. Davis Griffin, former Chairman of the Republican Party, is at the helm. They have three Senate seats and polled nearly double digits in a Generic Ballot poll. It's naive to think that somebody more formidable won't come to the fore," said Snell.

At that point Ralph Stevenson walked through the door, and assumed a seat opposite of Thad and Ericson. "Good seeing you again. So, my accountant and I have done some analysis on the numbers here, and we've got a deal worked out," said Ralph, laying a binder out on the desk. "So in 1983, Thad O'Connor made a five-digit investment in the Stevenson Brewery. Since then, the Stevenson Brewery has experienced a great increase in profits and has expanded locations throughout Maine. Also, we've got to consider that for several years, Thad O'Connor was an entry-level employee at the Stevenson Brewery.

So, looking at these figures, the best course of action is to hire Thad as a consultant, with a salary of $43,000 a year. That should be enough for him to afford his own apartment, which I've already picked for him. I found one a block down from the brewery that was recently vacated, and managed to negotiate a monthly rent of only $300. It's a low-frills environment, but considering how often you've been spending time in D.C. that shouldn't be a big deal, and it should suffice as a residence in the event that your personal life comes under the microscope."
7  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Dust In The Wind on: November 20, 2014, 01:44:12 am

March 9th, 1988


Safe Republican: >10%

Slight Republican: 4-9%

Tossup: 3% difference

Slight Democratic: 4-9%

Safe Democratic: >10%

Gingrich vs Bentsen

411 - 119 - 8

Armstrong vs Bentsen

384 - 106 - 48

Ho'kee vs Bentsen

360 - 166 - 12

Gingrich vs Brown vs Wyde

428 - 20 - 7 - 83

Armstrong vs Brown vs Wyde

436 - 77 - 7 - 18

Ho'kee vs Brown vs Wyde

420 - 25 - 24 - 69
8  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: The Survivor on: November 19, 2014, 08:14:15 pm
Is that Cassidy win before or after the runoff?

There's no runoff if a majority is reached in the regular election.
9  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: NE2: Regional Voting Regulations Act 2014 (At Final Vote) on: November 19, 2014, 04:20:20 pm
10  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XVIII: 15 Miles From Lunch on: November 19, 2014, 04:15:31 pm
Good morning, folks.  I'm at work.  It was hard getting out of bed this morning.  I went to bed at a good time, but was extra sleepy this morning.  Anyway, I'm here.  Millions of Americans of all ages enjoy watching Rudolph and Frosty when they come on CBS each year, so to consider then childish is very far fetched.  I will say it again, there is nothing wrong with celebrating Christmas half the year like I do.  It's perfectly acceptable.

So it's now time to really start thinking about a title for the next season. Put on your thinking caps people!

Update XIX: Half a Year of Christmas?
11  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Update-opoly sign up on: November 18, 2014, 01:15:50 am
(1) Free Parking / 'Free Gas'  (Put an X in a box)

     [ X ] Any and all fines and taxes go into a Free Parking ('Free Gas' in Update-opoly) fund.  Whoever lands on Free Gas wins the accumulated pool of cash.  If the pool is empty, they win nothing.

     [  ] Any and all fines and taxes go to the bank.  Nothing happens when a player lands on Free Gas.

(2) The last unsold property  (Put an X in a box)

     [  ] The last unsold property goes into the Free Gas pool as well.  If somebody lands on that property after it has gone into Free Gas, they may still purchase it at regular price.  But if they land on Free Gas, they win it for free instead.

     [ X ] The last unsold property can only be sold when a player lands on it.

(3) Salary for landing on Go  (Rank your preferences, 1-3)

     [ X ] If you land on Go, you collect $400 instead of $200.  This includes instructions given by Trust Jesus or Papa's Retirement Fund cards to 'Advance to Go'.

     [  ] If you land on Go, you collect $400 instead of $200.  However, instructions given by Trust Jesus or Papa's Retirement Fund cards are excluded, and you only get $200.

     [  ] If you land on Go, you just collect $200.

(4) When players can begin purchasing properties   (Rank your preferences, 1-3)

     [  ] All players must each move around the board once before they can purchase any properties.*

     [ X ] All players must wait until just one player has moved around the entire board once.*

     [  ] Players may begin purchasing properties immediately after the game begins.

* A trip to jail ('Sleep') does not count as traveling around the board, so that player will still need to pass Go after leaving jail to qualify as having fully moved around the board.

(5) If a player chooses not to (or cannot afford to) purchase an unsold property they've landed on...  (Put an X in a box)

     [ X ] ... it remains unsold for the next player to land on.

     [  ] ... it goes to a silent auction, in which players PM me a bid for the property.  Highest bid wins.

(6) When a player lands on a Trust Jesus space...  (Rank your preferences, 1-3)

     [ X ] ... the player must draw a card.

     [  ] ... the player can choose to either draw a card, or sit freely on the space and do nothing.

     [  ] ... the player can choose to either draw a card, or pay a $50 fine.

(7) Collecting rent while in jail ('asleep')  (Put an X in a box)

     [ X ] While asleep, players cannot collect rent on their properties. (I vote this way because paying a landlord/bills necessitates a trip to the other apartment)

     [  ] While asleep, players can collect rent on their properties.

(8) Winning the game    (Rank your preferences, 1-4)

     [  ] A player wins when all other players are bankrupt.

     [  ] A player wins when they have accumulated 85% of the wealth (cash + assets) in play.

     [  ] A player wins when they have accumulated 80% of the wealth (cash + assets) in play.

     [ X ] A player wins when they have accumulated 75% of the wealth (cash + assets) in play.

(9) Trading properties between players  (Put an X in a box)

     [  ] Trading properties has to wait until all properties are owned.

     [ X ] Trading properties can begin at any point.

(10) Availability of houses and hotels ('credit cards' and 'loans', respectively)  (Put an X in a box)

     [  ] Credit cards are limited to 32, and loans to 12.

     [ X ] There is no limit to credit cards and loans available to purchase.

(11) Issuing properties at the beginning of the game  (Put an X in a box)

     [  ] Three property cards are randomly dealt to each player at the beginning of the game.

     [ X ] No properties are dealt at the beginning of the game.
12  Forum Community / Survivor / Re: SURVIVOR: State Capital buildings of the United States - ROUND 6 on: November 17, 2014, 06:28:37 pm
3 Rhode Island
13  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: NE2: Regional Voting Regulations Act 2014 (Debating) on: November 17, 2014, 03:11:43 pm
Debate on this bill will last for 72 hours, or until 10:17 PM on Thursday, November 13, unless otherwise modified or extended. The sponsor has 36 hours to advocate for this proposed legislation. If he does not, this bill will be tabled as there is other pending legislation in the queue.

We should probably get a vote.

FTR I'll be voting nay since there's still a bit of work to do on this.
14  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Snowstalker vs Bas Rutten on: November 16, 2014, 08:50:23 pm
15  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Update-opoly sign up on: November 16, 2014, 04:53:38 pm
I'll be the pillow. Assuming I can play, of course Grin
16  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: November 2014 Special At-large Senate Election on: November 16, 2014, 04:49:26 pm
[1] Bacon King
17  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XVIII: 15 Miles From Lunch on: November 16, 2014, 11:08:41 am
Any plans to make some time in the evening for AutoCAD at least once this week?

I plan on doing it Saturday.

Oh, and I still plan to work with my AutoCAD some this evening after the birthday party.  I should be home at or before 2000, so while I watch some late night football, there's no reason I can't work with it some.

Did you play with CAD last night?
18  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Bigby vs Saving Silverman on: November 16, 2014, 10:17:03 am
19  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: NE2: Regional Voting Regulations Act 2014 (Debating) on: November 14, 2014, 04:18:55 pm
As CJO, I enforced the NOTA provisions in every voting booth that I maintained. I wouldn't be opposed to removing the option, however.

Also, Dallas, thanks for making the whole sample ballot. I was planning on it but then other things got in the way! Wink

I just copy and pasted it from one of my old voting booths but it might be good for each of us to give it a once-over before we make anything official.
20  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Hillary Clinton on: November 14, 2014, 12:52:58 am
I know that you're a sensitive one, but is that Pavlovian garbage really the best response that you've got?

I know this may be hard for you to believe, but women are their own people. Mind = blown! Implying Hillary would be a dishonest president because her husband lied about an affair is one of the more disgustingly sexist criticisms I've ever seen from a "Democrat". Perhaps a blue avatar would suit you better? Though to be fair, not even many Republicans would sink that low to find justification for their deranged hatred of the soon to be first female president.

There's no need to resort to any of that to establish that Hillary Clinton is frequently and blatantly dishonest. Unless you believe - just for a start - that she was really named for Sir Edmund Hillary six years before he climbed Mount Everest, that she was actually ambushed by snipers at a tarmac in Bosnia, and that her incoherent retrospective justification for her vote to authorize force in Iraq makes any sense.

If that's what you truly believe, then why sink that low in the first place? And there's nothing incoherent about her justification, certainly not any moreso than the other Democrats who you're happy to forgive and let bygones by bygones.

Please, tell me who I am "happy" to forgive and why they are comparable.

John Kerry. Point to your outrage when he ran for president in 2004.

So uh, is Nix supposed to bump a bunch of old threads from 2004 and go "No! Undecided" ? Huh
21  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: NE2: Regional Voting Regulations Act 2014 (Debating) on: November 13, 2014, 10:36:22 pm
Should a voter preference "NOTA" as well as other candidates, only his vote for "NOTA" will be counted.

Is that part enforced these days? I think votes including NOTA as a numbered preference have not been rejected.

The Federal Elections Officer counts the preferences above the one given to NOTA as valid. (I hope I said it right). 

I mostly just copypasta'd that from a previous voting booth I opened. I'd be fine with getting rid of NOTA outright since I'm not sure it's constructive to have it as an option.
22  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Dust In The Wind on: November 13, 2014, 09:46:42 pm
TIME - Peace in Panama
March 7th, 1988

Panama Skirmish ends

While President Bentsen has had no shortage of troubles since assuming the Presidency, there may finally be some good news for him.

Last week a triumphant-looking Bentsen emerged from a conference in Washington, flanked by Secretary of State Jeanne Kirkpatrick and Panamanian leader Omar Torrijos. After lengthy negotiations, it seems that both parties have reached an agreement, with Bentsen proudly brandishing a treaty. The proposed treaty calls for an end to United States occupation of all Panamanian territory outside of the Canal Zone. In addition, the United States is to be responsible for repairs to the Panama Canal and to grant amnesty to all those directly involved in the conflict. The most controversial aspect of the treaty, however, is that the ownership of the Canal is to be transferred to the people of Panama "upon dissolution of the Soviet Union."

The proposed treaty is sure to meet some opposition in the Senate. There are many on the political Right who would sooner add Panama as the 51st state than cede ownership of the Canal, while some on the Left may suspect that the treaty does not go far enough in granting restitution to the people of Panama. However, the general consensus seems to be that troops have been engaged in the Panama conflict for too long, and the treaty will likely pass.

Handicap of last Tuesday's primaries

March 1st was host to several critical presidential primaries, although their results made it evident that each party would only reach a nominee through attrition. For Republicans, the victor was clearly Areus Ho'kee: despite seeming to be a three-way tie, he pulled off a narrow but critical victory in California, netting him a hefty amount of delegates. In addition, he edged out Newt Gingrich in Connecticut and had a decisive (though unimportant) victory in Hawaii. Gingrich eked out wins in New Jersey and Illinois, but has been losing momentum at a fast rate.

While mainstream Republican voters seem to be settling on Ho'kee, there is still the distinct possibility that Armstrong could prevail. While Ho'kee and Gingrich have been contesting the Northeast and the Midwest, Armstrong has become the prohibitive favorite in the South, stuffing Gingrich out of the Carolinas and encroaching on Texas, Florida, and even Gingrich's Georgia. Were Gingrich to drop out, it is unlikely that Ho'kee would be the main benefactor; Gingrich himself still supports the War in Iran, and Ho'kee's ethnicity, personal life, and dovishness could alienate undecided Republicans.

Despite being the incumbent President, Bentsen's road to the nomination has been piecemeal. The decline of the auto industry and the current union issues have made him deeply unpopular with Democratic voters in the Midwest, while ethics issues and the War in Iran have made him vulnerable in areas like the Northeast and the West Coast. Above all, his 1987 Social Security compromise has alienated the base as a whole, leaving him with little support to rely upon.

However, incumbency and the support of state Democratic apparatuses have gone a long way. Last Tuesday, Bentsen prevailed in Connecticut and Illinois while staving off Patton Wyde in the Carolinas and Arkansas. Given the rules of the Democratic Party with regard to delegate allocation, it is conceivable that Bentsen will not have sufficient support until June. He has been winning most primaries, but Brown and Wyde have been doing considerable damage in the Northeast and South respectively, which does not bode well for his general election chances.

Presidential Approval Ratings:
March 5th, 1988

Republican Primary Polling:
March 5th, 1988

Democratic Primary Polling:
March 5th, 1988
23  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: NE2: Regional Voting Regulations Act 2014 (Debating) on: November 13, 2014, 06:33:50 pm
I was thinking something along these lines:

As _______, I hereby declare this polling place open at 12:01am EST on _________.

This is the Northeast regional polling booth for the _____ election. In this polling place, Northeast citizens are electing five members to the Assembly.

Votes for offices in this region are cast using PR-STV.  Voters who wish to preference more than one candidate should allocate a first preference for a candidate by marking a [1] in the space provided by that candidate's name, and proceeding to number as many preferences as they desire by marking a [2], [3], etc for as many candidates as they so desire.

A vote will be counted so long as the voter that casts it is eligible to vote in this election and casts  a formal ballot. A vote is formal so long as it contains numbered preferences with no duplicate numbers. A ballot containing Roman Numerals is not considered informal. A ballot in which candidates have been ranked a,b,c, etc is not considered informal so long as no letter has been repeated, and so long as a single candidate has been ranked a, for as long as the letters are consecutive with no duplicate letters. A ballot is formal if the CJO can determine the intent of the voter without interviewing that voter.

Per past practice, write-in votes are only counted for a candidate if he or she publicly declares a willingness to receive write-in votes for a particular office in the [name of election] before the polls close in the Candidate Declaration Thread or writes in his or her own name on the ballot for that particular office.

Votes for "NOTA" or "None of the Above" for any office are formal regardless of the preference assigned to it. Should a voter preference "NOTA" as well as other candidates, only his vote for "NOTA" will be counted.

This booth shall remain open until _____ at 11:59:59 PM EST.

Official Ballot

Northeast Assembly
Five people will be elected to the Assembly.

[ ] A
[ ] B
[ ] C
[ ] D
[ ] E
[ ] Write-in:____________
[ ] None of the Above
[ ] Abstain

It's a bit much but we could always have a blank template in the Civic Information Thread.
24  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XVIII: 15 Miles From Lunch on: November 13, 2014, 04:59:03 pm
OK, I'm spotty on the details but how many days of work has Bushie actually completed?
25  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XVIII: 15 Miles From Lunch on: November 13, 2014, 12:32:09 am
I just can't imagine how someone in apparently so much pain wants to do nothing about it.

Because it's all about doing what's most expedient and facilitates laziness. I actually believe Jeff when he says his headache was so bad this morning that he had to leave work, and if his boss allowed it, so be it.

But rather than try to get himself well in any way, he continues to eat like sh[ink], drink nothing but headache-inducing soda and get literally no exercise. Plus he watches hours and hours of TV, because it's easy.

Successful people don't do "easy" -- therefore, Jeff will never succeed. He doesn't have it in him in any way other than to just talk and "plan." Useless words backed up by years of inaction.

I'm a lot better than I was this morning.  We had chili for supper tonight, nothing out of the ordinary for most Americans.  I only had one bowl.  I did have a coke with it, but the sugary sodas don't give me headaches.  I ruled those out a long time ago through a series of personal tests.  Sugar and caffeine do not affect my headaches.  In fact, for me, the sugar and caffeine actually acts as a pain reliever, not a pain inducer.  Right now, I'm drinking a Diet Dr Pepper.  I'll take this moderate headache any day over the double whopper of a migraine I had this morning. (See what I did there. Tongue )

literally had to check to make sure this wasn't a blubb
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