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1  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / outofbox6 vs Ba'ath Party on: Today at 07:22:07 pm
outofbox6 vs Ba'ath Party
2  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Political Tracker - Special At-Large Senate Election on: July 28, 2014, 11:05:26 pm
Hurricane Spiral
3  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: NE1: End Stadium Corporate Welfare Act (Debating) on: July 28, 2014, 09:51:34 pm
This was an issue that I wanted to address during my tenure as Governor awhile back.

I'll need to think about the specifics when I'm a bit more lucid, but I support ending the status-quo wrt sports issues such as these.

Sports economist J.C. Bradbury on why the economic payout from stadium subsidies is less than expected.

Also, to shed some light on why sports owners ought to pay for their own sh!tty teams:
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At the pro level, billionaire team owners such as Paul Allen of the Seattle Seahawks and Shahid Khan of the Jacksonville Jaguars benefit from publicly financed stadiums for which they pay little or nothing while reaping all revenue. Easterbrook also talks about how the lobbyists managed to get the NFL chartered as a nonprofit by amending tax codes designed for chambers of commerce and trade organizations.

Ostensibly, one might look at a stadium and see commercial activity. However, what commercial activity is to be had from $8 beers?

I question the wisdom of buying a stadium just to sell it again although there might be something obvious I'm missing here.
4  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: NE2: Northeast Recognition Omnibus Amendment (Debating) on: July 28, 2014, 07:20:21 pm
Is this necessary? I thought the court struck down the happy section of the bill, so the rest of the bill is automatically amended like this.

I suppose that's debatable. While the Happy section is, of course, invalid and unenforceable, it would not automatically be expunged from the text of the legislation. See, for example, American states continuing to maintain sodomy bans in their statute eleven years after they were ruled unconstitutional by the Supreme Court.

^

Naturally I have no objections to Barnes having a county, altho I'd prefer if we were to renumber the list, since I sorted it out by eras.

For instance:

Bullmoose/Andrew/Moderate - NLC era
Cinyc/Libertas/Han/Kal - Early assembly era
Scott/Nix/Winfield/Napoleon/Homely/Cinci - Northeast ConCon and end of the JCP era

The rest are post-dissolution. Of course, that being said Cynic and Earl should also probably be in the first era.
5  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: NE2: Northeast Recognition Omnibus Amendment (Debating) on: July 27, 2014, 07:35:56 pm
I mean, how could you not love the harmony in the chorus of the song?

By listening to it.

Anywho, with regards to the amendment in question:

I believe that a ban on Happy is preferable. However, the court has phorced us to accept Happy, so I phigure the best solution is to establish November 21st (the day Happy came out IIRC) as a day of mourning. RIP to the millions of decibels wasted.
6  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: Northeast Voting Booth: Special Assembly Election on: July 27, 2014, 07:06:56 pm
[1] Matt
[2] Write-in: Maybe next vacancy, guys
[3] Write-in: Listen to music from Hot Creations
7  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: 2004 Presidential Election: GAME THREAD on: July 26, 2014, 08:49:57 pm


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To All The Candidates, Without mentioning them by name at all, explain to us why you are different from your opponent.

To my knowledge, the ticket of Kucinich and myself are the only ones who unequivocally opposed the War in Iraq, and have from the get-go. The Kucinich/Sanders ticket is the only ticket that supports creating a Department of Peace, is the only ticket that supports a substantive hike in the minimum wage, and the only ticket that supports real healthcare reform. While some are either late to the party, or outright in opposition to these values, I think the best bet for voters is to go with the ticket that has never shaken in their support for these issues.

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To All The Candidates, Massachusetts has taken a big step in legalizing gay marriage, what is your position on the matter and should the matter of unions be left to the state?

I absolutely support this. I think that it's important that we recognize same-sex marriages in states that allow for it, and also push for national legalization and recognition of gay marriage. We cannot allow for a system of geographic discrimination - rights are the same whether they be in Birmingham or Boston.

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Congressman Sanders, You have identified yourself as a socialist, would you explain what you explain what that affiliation means to reassure some skeptical American electorate.

I am proudly a democratic socialist - in layman's terms, creating a more egalitarian society in which everybody has a roof over their head and a blanket over their bed. My vision of democratic socialism is not the imagery that tends to be conjured up by conservatives - that of the old Soviet Union, but rather higher wages, better working conditions, and access to healthcare. I don't think too many Americans are skeptical of that. As Upton Sinclair once said, 'the people will take socialism, but they won't take the label.'
8  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / The Obamanation vs Gangnam Park on: July 25, 2014, 10:25:37 pm
9  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Peternerdman vs Operation Urgent Fury on: July 25, 2014, 07:51:10 pm
Peternerdman vs Operation Urgent Fury
10  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Attn Dave: State School Superintendent option on: July 25, 2014, 07:48:57 am
Another suggestion, and a pretty major one:-  Presidential primaries!?

Baseless speculation but I have a hunch that Dave doesn't want us uploading presidential-related results for whatever reason.

Otherwise, this'd be pretty cool - I'd be glad to do all of the MA+NH ones.

One other cool option (tho probably unlikely) would be to upload At-Large House elections.
11  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / JCL vs Plate Tectonics on: July 24, 2014, 11:06:26 pm
JCL vs Plate Tectonics
12  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Happy Birthday, Hashemite! on: July 24, 2014, 10:33:26 pm
HB mah dude.
13  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: NE2: The Same Love Act (Debating) on: July 24, 2014, 01:15:24 am
I remember doing the math like
"Yeah I'm north of the Mason-Dixon"
pre-conceived idea of what it meant
Only hicks are attracted to their sisters
LeBron FitzGerald thinks it's a decision
can be cured by legislative action
Atlasia the brave, still fears what we don't know
And we paraphrase a Constitution written five years ago
It's the same fight that led to protest threads for polygamy
Human rights for all posters, there is no difference
Live on, and be yourself
When I was on IRC, Adam told me something else
14  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: NE2: The Same Love Act (Debating) on: July 24, 2014, 01:09:05 am
Cheesy

Your answer is funny Dallasfan, but you haven't understood my question Sad.

I mean, I know you support polygamy and incest, I just wanted to know, if, in order to defend polygamy and incest, you have the same arguments, or you have different arguments.

Is it clearer???



Huh

It's all the same love to me. Are we discussing priorities or...?
15  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Political Tracker - 3rd At-Large Senate Poll on: July 24, 2014, 12:34:21 am
[1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhBwt9mw7Sk
[2] Polnut
16  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: NE1: House the Homeless Act (Debating) on: July 23, 2014, 10:15:42 pm
While I'm assuming the answer is "probably not" is there any way we could pursue zoning reform as part of this to allow for cheaper and more equitable lodging?

Some thought-provoking articles on the matter.

Maybe that should be for a separate bill, no? I can talk to the Governor and see if we can get working on this.

There's not a lot in the queue right now, so I wouldn't have an issue with that - I just think that re-working some of our outdated zoning laws ought to be bundled with a sincere effort to combat homelessness.

I'm not too concerned about the particulars however.
17  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: The Mideast Telegraph - the sound paper on: July 23, 2014, 10:12:33 pm
Editorial: The 'Same Love' Act

So, the 'Same Love' Act. Proof that conspiracy theories about the fluoridation of water are entirely correct. Where to begin. Basically, this act seeks to legalise the 'unions' of two persons of close kin. In other words, incestuous marriages. The reasoning behind this; #samelove. Oh and let's not forget the argument put forward by the former Governor in favour of this; 'unless the dick is in you shut the f*** up'. Really, I mean really? No potential risks can be seen by this legitimisation of incestuous relationships. Surely it is well known that the children from these relationships have a considerably higher chance of developing severe disabilities than those who are the product of relationships between those who are not closely related. This is not the child's fault of course; rather, it is the fault of their irreponsible parents, the actions of which the Northeast seeks to legitimise. And the only arguments being put forward in favour of it are internet catchphrases. Dear lord, this may pass in the Northeast, but I hope to God that no such changes are considered elsewhere.

iight sick life man

Short-form version: Yes, I believe that UTDINYSTFU is a good motto to live by, as coined by the venerable Maddox.

Long-form version: OK. It seems intuitive to think that we ought to criminalize and/or not recognize incestuous relations as legitimate because of the disadvantages that their progeny might face. However, what is the alternative - that we criminalize it? Current legal statutes in the real life equivalents of Northeast states levy criminal penalties of up to twenty years in jail for incest. To call this reactionary would be flattery.

The data on incestuous relations is murky at best. Per wikipedia:

Quote from: wikipedia
Data on cousin marriage in the United States is sparse. It was estimated in 1960 that 0.2% of all marriages between Roman Catholics were between first or second cousins, but no more recent nationwide studies have been performed.[101] It is unknown what proportion of that number were first cousins, which is the group facing marriage bans.

AKA: Given shoddy reporting methods and no data for fifty years, we don't really know.

Touching back on the progeny of said unions - this is the Twenty-First Century. Contraceptives and abortion are readily available, and we may know more about the dangers of inbreeding than we did one or two hundred years ago. Furthermore, companionship and procreation are not mutually inclusive, elsewise we wouldn't recognize same-sex marriages.

And lastly, unless I've committed some sort of oversight, this law would allow for more than just two relatives to enter a union. Grin
18  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: NE1: House the Homeless Act (Debating) on: July 23, 2014, 07:42:17 pm
While I'm assuming the answer is "probably not" is there any way we could pursue zoning reform as part of this to allow for cheaper and more equitable lodging?

Some thought-provoking articles on the matter.
19  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: NE2: The Same Love Act (Debating) on: July 23, 2014, 07:39:48 pm
Didn't know our laws on this were so draconian. I am obviously in favor of this.

Indeed! It's even worse when you look at the real life prohibitions on the matter. Fifteen years of prison time for incestuous relations? That's madness.

I'm curious Dallasfan,
Would you defend this bill the same way you would defend polygamy?

Sorry for the interruption, I'm just curious. I personally see two different way to defend/condemn polygamy and incest.

Is it the case for you???

Vice President, how do you condemn polygamy while defending incest?

On a more serious note, yes, I unequivocally support legalization of both.
20  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: NE2: The Same Love Act (Debating) on: July 23, 2014, 12:42:12 am
OK.

I guess I was expecting to be truncated by more significant opposition given how far-flung the idea of legalizing incestuous unions might seem to some.

That being said, this is 2014. While causes such as polygamy and marriage between relatives aren't en vogue like gay marriage, they nonetheless are deserving of equal protection and legal recognition. Many people find the idea of incestuous relationships to be "ick", but my motto is UTDINYSTFU.

I'll be happy to post counter arguments in the event that this is met with some opposition.
21  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Adam FitzGerald vs Kenan and Kel on: July 22, 2014, 11:08:23 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lTBUDBq8xw
22  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Redalgo vs Habbo Hotel on: July 22, 2014, 07:39:36 pm
Redalgo vs Habbo Hotel
23  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / phwezer vs Five Sunday shows on: July 21, 2014, 02:00:26 pm
phwezer vs Five Sunday shows
24  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: 2004 Presidential Election: GAME THREAD on: July 20, 2014, 08:44:18 pm


It's good to be here in New Haven! New Haven is a pristine community and an undistilled essence of the natural beauty that is Vermont. That is why it's important that we enact more stringent environmental policies to preserve communities like these.

September 28th

- Rally and fundraiser in Rutland, VT
- Meet and Greet in Middletown Springs, VT
- Meet and Greet in Fairhaven, VT
- Barnstorming in Leicester, VT
- Meet and Greet in New Haven, VT

September 28th

- Meet and Greet in Jericho, VT
- Rally in North Hero, VT
- Rally in St. Albans, VT
- Meet and Greet in Enosburg, VT
- Rally in Jay, VT

September 30th

- Rally and fundraiser in Newport, VT
- Barnstorming in Sheffield, VT
- Barnstorming in St. Johnsbury, VT
- Meet and Greet in Maidstone, VT

October 1st

- Barnstorming in Deerfield, MA
- Meet and Greet in Wendell, MA
- Rally in Amherst, MA
- Barnstorming in Northampton, MA
- Meet and Greet in Southampton, MA

October 2nd

- Barnstorming in Pittsfield, MA
- Meet and Greet in Otis, MA
- Barnstorming in Westfield, MA
- Rally and Fundraiser in West Longmeadow, MA
- Meet and Greet in Holland, MA
25  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1920 Presidential Election on: July 20, 2014, 05:41:06 pm
OK, I haven't forgotten about this - could somebody send me a PM of all the elections we're without maps on, and I'll try and get them done in the next few days?

Also has America admitted any new states?
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