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1  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Will the Republicans retain the Senate after the 2016 Elections? on: November 05, 2014, 11:35:56 am
We shall see, Lisa Madigan or Robin Kelly or Duckwerth will win and Johnson will lose, but the 54/46 majority is tenious


What if Walker is the nominee? Will he lose then?


Johnson is a tough beat.  Besides being more qualified than any dem he'll have a massive warchest ( with personal money to draw)  A dem qualified candidate has to exist, get through a primary, and raise about 25 million dollars.  A presidential year turnout is his ONLY vulnerability   ...dems probably need a really good candidate which they don't have.  Don't embarrass yourself by bringing up Fingold.     
2  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: White Southern Democrats are dead on: November 05, 2014, 11:19:25 am
Meanwhile, Republicans demean those who do not conform to their ideals of a good white person and get shocked when they lose a high turnout race because no minority support.

Christ, why even respond to you? You are the absolutely worst of the Republican Party. It's urchins like you that make it difficult to support anything the GOP stands for in the end.
? what?  demean uninformed mob mentality?  

...yes, I oppose scientifically stupid behavior

...you probably should as well, if you don't already.  



lol

"Scientifically stupid" is probably one of the dumbest phrases I've ever seen coined and yet you thought it was so clever that you put in bold font.

Hilarious.
Don't oppose science. Mob psychology is dangerous stuff.   
3  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: White Southern Democrats are dead on: November 05, 2014, 11:09:33 am
The Presidency of the United States is what  I want. Republicans have done nothing to improve their odds of winning the Presidency.

Also, what the  dude.
...Democrats have always been the plantation party.  I want blacks off the plantation, not sure why you get freaked out all the time. 

Media and "pop"culture are all we're talking about.  Dems haven't won an idea war in 3-5 decades.  The internet is killing off much of the media bias.  Hopefully, by 2016 they won't be able to push an Obama on us . 

You're seeing things that are not there and will be gravely disappointed in 2016. I will just leave it at that.
I see the possibility of a zombie election in 2016!!!   Stop pretending I'm oblivious to the zombies, I get your point!!!!     
4  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: White Southern Democrats are dead on: November 05, 2014, 11:05:59 am
What social policy of the democrats is deeply unpopular? Explain?
Really any social engineering is resented.  Leftists use Political Correctness to force their social policy on people that don't want it or strongly oppose it, which multiplies the resentment.   

The Culture War is generally comprised of:
family and religious values - war on religious institutions and citizens right to exercise religion.   
feminism - This addled failed and dying ideology is dominant among the left.   
gay rights - Gays have never not had rights in my lifetime, The right would welcome a discussion about the merits of gay marriage, but if you are anything short of 'in your face' you are a bigot of some kind.  This issue ties into family and religious values.  Dems demogogy here is unpopular.  - Some of this stuff is getting weird.  Mandatory diversity classes have become dominated by the latest fad of classifying every type of transgenderness or sexual oriantation -- This is obviously a waste of time, but it is often used to attack anyone with independent thoughts or who (rightfully so) resent being forced to be there wasting their time.   
race - The Dems are scary in this area.  You have Maoist indoctrination camps going on were children are forced to empathize their white guilt with each other  -- kids who correctly point out they and their families have nothing to feel guilty about are told "everyone is guilty."     
guns - Dems are widely unpopular on guns, mostly because they are illogical, incoherent, or insane on the issues.  The Constitution is pretty clear, so stop living in a fantasy world.  Also, Urban mayors like to blame guns for their crime problems... so nauseating.   
abortion. - This is a polarizing issue, however Dems have managed to act disgracefully with regard to it.  You can't claim a moral high ground when you are advocating the antithesis of morals.  Why does any regulation of Abortion require hair on fire freak outs from dems? 

Huh
Are you unfamiliar with mainstream Republican talking points, Simfan?
Mainstream facts I wish were in Republican talking points.  
5  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: White Southern Democrats are dead on: November 05, 2014, 11:02:54 am
The Presidency of the United States is what  I want. Republicans have done nothing to improve their odds of winning the Presidency.

Also, what the  dude.
...Democrats have always been the plantation party.  I want blacks off the plantation, not sure why you get freaked out all the time. 

Media and "pop"culture are all we're talking about.  Dems haven't won an idea war in 3-5 decades.  The internet is killing off much of the media bias.  Hopefully, by 2016 they won't be able to push an Obama on us . 
6  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: White Southern Democrats are dead on: November 05, 2014, 10:37:47 am
All those above points that make the Democrats losers in midterms will guarantee their victory in 2016.
Yea, Zombies tend to awake in presidential years.  The problem is Dems need a "Rock Star" to awaken large numbers of zombies and their "Rock Stars" are always inexperienced incompetents, which the country has gotten sick of the last 6 years.  

No, Dems don't need a rockstar to awake them.  Turnout for Presidential elections is consistent, even when Al Bore is the nominee.

Dems have won popular vote in 5 out of last 6 Presidential elections and the one they didn't win in 2004 was won on a campaign of President Bush that featured VIVA BUSH which won 45% of the Hispanic vote in 2004.   GOP seems disinterested in attempting to do that ever again.

Domination of the US House
Control of US Senate:
I Think long term GOP will have an advantage in the US Senate range of 48-to-60ish Seats.
64 of 98 state legislative chambers  
The governor-ships of Illinois, Massachusetts, and freaking Maryland.

...what more do you want?  

GOP is becoming a 45 state party and dems are becoming a 5 state party, yes I agree with you the zombie elections are tough AND demographic blocks require some work in breaking up and I think it will happen - the question is when -- I'd like to see 40%+ of Hispanics and 30%+ of Blacks off the plantation.  
7  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: White Southern Democrats are dead on: November 05, 2014, 10:22:01 am
Meanwhile, Republicans demean those who do not conform to their ideals of a good white person and get shocked when they lose a high turnout race because no minority support.

Christ, why even respond to you? You are the absolutely worst of the Republican Party. It's urchins like you that make it difficult to support anything the GOP stands for in the end.
? what?  demean uninformed mob mentality?  

...yes, I oppose scientifically stupid behavior

...you probably should as well, if you don't already.  

8  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: White Southern Democrats are dead on: November 05, 2014, 10:18:03 am
All those above points that make the Democrats losers in midterms will guarantee their victory in 2016.
Yea, Zombies tend to awake in presidential years.  The problem is Dems need a "Rock Star" to awaken large numbers of zombies and their "Rock Stars" are always inexperienced incompetents, which the country has gotten sick of the last 6 years.  
9  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: White Southern Democrats are dead on: November 05, 2014, 10:10:39 am
What social policy of the democrats is deeply unpopular? Explain?

It isn't that one thing is especially unpopular. Marijuana legalization is popular at the national level at this point, but if you based the majority of your campaigns, energy, and effort towards pot issues you'd probably not do particularly well nationally.

The Democrats' raison d'etre is the promotion of sexual diversity, elevation of sex to the center of public life, and the personal destruction of those who hold differing opinions on these issues. This has been largely to the marginalization of issues that effect a wider swathe of the public. The Democrats should be winning every cycle by enormous margins given the fact that most people agree with them on important issues.

How many Democratic candidates made raising the minimum wage the lynchpin of their campaign? Half the country LIKES Obamacare and 25% of the people opposing it thought it didn't go far enough. How many Democratic candidates in swing states actually ran on it, or even suggested we use it as a starting point towards single payer? The great majority of the country wants immigration reform, but the Dems shrank away from it. If the Democrats cared about young voters (who didn't show up at all yesterday) or single voters they would seriously be proposing some kind of national student debt forgiveness. They play games with the numbers to make it seem like the economic equity and the structural foundations of the economy aren't in horrific shape in our country, and think that people will be satisfied with promises of free birth-control and abortions.

The funny thing is that the Democrats don't have to have nights like last night. They already have the voters out there, they just need to get them to the polls. If they actually spoke to issues people cared about and ran on the obvious solutions to those problems instead of half-assed cop-outs and excuses, they wouldn't have to worry about turnout either.

Dems encourage people to be lazy and stupid (zombies) and than act shocked when their mindless slugs don't vote...  an interesting cycle of irony
Zombie party complains that it is difficult to get zombies to the polls in midterms. 
10  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: White Southern Democrats are dead on: November 05, 2014, 10:00:10 am
What social policy of the democrats is deeply unpopular? Explain?
Really any social engineering is resented.  Leftists use Political Correctness to force their social policy on people that don't want it or strongly oppose it, which multiplies the resentment.    

The Culture War is generally comprised of:
family and religious values - war on religious institutions and citizens right to exercise religion.    
feminism - This addled failed and dying ideology is dominant among the left.  
gay rights - Gays have never not had rights in my lifetime, The right would welcome a discussion about the merits of gay marriage, but if you are anything short of 'in your face' you are a bigot of some kind.  This issue ties into family and religious values.  Dems demogogy here is unpopular.  - Some of this stuff is getting weird.  Mandatory diversity classes have become dominated by the latest fad of classifying every type of transgenderness or sexual oriantation -- This is obviously a waste of time, but it is often used to attack anyone with independent thoughts or who (rightfully so) resent being forced to be there wasting their time.   
race - The Dems are scary in this area.  You have Maoist indoctrination camps going on were children are forced to empathize their white guilt with each other  -- kids who correctly point out they and their families have nothing to feel guilty about are told "everyone is guilty."    
guns - Dems are widely unpopular on guns, mostly because they are illogical, incoherent, or insane on the issues.  The Constitution is pretty clear, so stop living in a fantasy world.  Also, Urban mayors like to blame guns for their crime problems... so nauseating.    
abortion. - This is a polarizing issue, however Dems have managed to act disgracefully with regard to it.  You can't claim a moral high ground when you are advocating the antithesis of morals.  Why does any regulation of Abortion require hair on fire freak outs from dems?  
11  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: White Southern Democrats are dead on: November 05, 2014, 09:11:45 am
RIP.

Seriously, this isn't good for the Democratic Party. Not good at all.

You guys pushed the divisive culture war issues too far. You were "fighting transphobia" when you should have been fighting poverty. If you want to win over Southern (and Midwestern) whites, then you need to return to the New Deal and drop the GLBT stuff.

Except even Democrats who run on the New Deal lose.

...Lose the Radical social policy and the largely failed and dated economic policy.  I would like the democrats to be a reasonable alternative to the GOP at some point in my life.   
12  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation on: June 13, 2014, 11:09:21 am
Jeremy segway boy ryan is Paul Ryan's primary opponent.
13  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation on: June 13, 2014, 07:31:49 am
They still have "protesters" in the capitol.  I'm told they sing socialist songs in the rotunda everyday around noon...  in a manner that scares (and scars) school children on tours.  

'Scars'? You can't be serious.

They kind of just ruin the mood.  I have a warm memory of visiting the capitol in grade school, it really is one of the most beautiful capitols in the country and one of the few 'fully - functioning - museum - landmark' ones.  It probably wouldn't be as warm a memory if I witnessed asylum patients chanting tongues.  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZQl-WD2aWY
You can here them in the background as segway boy rides around babbling and chanting harassing nonsense and then lying about what he's saying.     Ryan repeatedly harassed Gwyn Guenther, reporter and daughter of the deceased longtime Capitol reporter Dick Wheeler, the founder of the Wheeler Report, a popular Capitol news service. Guenther has since moved her office from the Capitol to avoid hearing segway boys chant of "wheeler's dead" everyday.  
 
...on the other hand you did get this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uDihYmhsMA awesome spontaneous counter protest of the protesters from high school kids.  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGJzhzGfqDI
To top it off Dekker hit a late 3 to win the title, those Sheboygan Lu kids have class.  
14  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation on: June 12, 2014, 07:12:10 pm
Yes, clearly Mitt "if you want to start your own business, asks your parents for money!" Romney became successful from scratch...LOL
Didn't happen (as far as I know, and I'm pretty sure).  He had access to capitol, so I don't see why he would want any money from his parents.  Mitt isn't a taker like most wealthy democrats.  Mitt had more money than his dad by far when he died, so he donated his entire inheritance to endow a college in his father's name.  It's like every lefty automatically assumes parents have to throw money at their kids and kids have to be net takers... or they are trying to perpetrate a lie about someone.  Again, can't support Burke by your own standard.  
15  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation on: June 12, 2014, 10:05:39 am
They still have "protesters" in the capitol.  I'm told they sing socialist songs in the rotunda everyday around noon...  in a manner that scares (and scars) school children on tours.   
16  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation on: June 11, 2014, 08:53:20 pm
First Burke signage I've seen, was today on the atlas forum... lol.  I wonder how much money this trust fund baby, spoiled brat will spend on her campaign.  10 million?  15 million?  I wouldn't mind her wealth if she worked a day in her life.     

I assume you felt the same way about Romney?
Noticed I said "worked a day" something the Romney's obviously have. 

I'm not talking about "the Romneys", I'm talking about Willard M. Romney. Remember, your presidential nominee from a year and a half ago? I can understand why you'd like to forget though.
Yeah, if you count Romney's life as "work", then Burke's should as well. And the Mormon Missionary crap don't count dawg.
Lets weigh this out:
A) Willard has a habit of building billion dollar companies from scratch or the scrape heap.  That's work any way you define it.
B) Dick Burke's daughter has a habit of taking several year long snowboarding sabbaticals from    "her job" at daddies company.  That isn't work any way you look at it.   

...I keep hoping the lefties will be coherent and logical and examine facts, but no.  They only offer hypocrisy, inconsistent, and flawed emotional 'thoughts'. 
This instance is an example.  Democrats make up some standard for Romney or Ryan that they supposedly don't meet (which dems have to kinda lye and fudge about, but wtev). If you take THEIR OWN STANDARD and apply it to THEIR candidate, than they are forced to confront the fact that Burke obviously doesn't meet their own standard.  So then you get these interesting child-like reactions "grrrr ahhh  Ryan, Romney are sort of as bad as our candidate if you lie about them... grrr damn GOP is racist anyway."

 Just say we were wrong to make that crap up about Romney and Ryan and we are ready to move on without manufacturing class warfare, as that is the only way we can logically support Marry Burke whose only actual political asset is her entirely inherited wealth.  I understand you can't because the brain dead in your base actually believe your false narratives and are thus permanently programmed to hate on an ideological basis and mob dynamics.                           
17  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation on: June 11, 2014, 06:09:08 pm
First Burke signage I've seen, was today on the atlas forum... lol.  I wonder how much money this trust fund baby, spoiled brat will spend on her campaign.  10 million?  15 million?  I wouldn't mind her wealth if she worked a day in her life.     

I assume you felt the same way about Romney?
Noticed I said "worked a day" something the Romney's obviously have. 
18  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: SHOCK poll: Eric Cantor (R) in primary trouble !? on: June 11, 2014, 12:01:01 pm
I'm not sure why so many liberals and Democrats on the Forum are happy over this result. Yes, Cantor was a thorn in the side of any attempts at bipartisanship, even by Boehner, but whoever takes his role can be assured from this election result to be worse.

Any chance of even partial immigration reform has been pushed back at least several years.

On every other issue under the sun, any member of the GOP caucus even dreaming about a bipartisan move towards the sensible center will, more than ever, now fear of being "Cantored" by the far right. (And in a couple weeks, I fear, the Senate GOP caucus will live in terror of being "Cochraned").

Dems can't even be happy over a potential race for this district. Brat may be pretty extreme, but it's a +10 R district. The GOP is going to keep this hands down. At worst we MIGHT have to put a BIT of $ in to ensure a win, and probably only if Brat pulls some Akin-like comments.
Democrats don't want immigration reform (unless it's immediate full citizenship for every illegal immigrant)
Republicans want immigration reform.
Democrats can be happy because now Republicans are unlikely to force them to vote against reform again and they can keep the issue benefiting them.
19  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: SHOCK poll: Eric Cantor (R) in primary trouble !? on: June 11, 2014, 09:55:49 am
Yea, I found an article where he explains how he can spend 4 days in DC and 3 in Janesville in a policy position (ways and means), but a leadership position (speaker) requires you to spend weekends flying around the country politicking and fundraising.  He also explains how he accepted VP nomination because it would mean more time with his family than a policy position in the house.  Talk around here is he won't seek the position  -- only chance would be if the caucus "drafted" him.     
20  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Wisconsin Megathread: Walker vs Burke, Statewide Races, 2016 Senate Speculation on: June 11, 2014, 09:43:07 am
First Burke signage I've seen, was today on the atlas forum... lol.  I wonder how much money this trust fund baby, spoiled brat will spend on her campaign.  10 million?  15 million?  I wouldn't mind her wealth if she worked a day in her life.     
21  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: SHOCK poll: Eric Cantor (R) in primary trouble !? on: June 11, 2014, 08:53:33 am
Ryan has already reiterated he's not interested in elected leadership. Either W&M or much less likely, a POTUS run.
Yes, but I have had the impression that when he said "I'm not interested in leadership" it was because he had a good relationship with Boehner AND Cantor (and no interrest in whip).  So, I think it's pretty reasonable to consider the possibility that things have changed. 
22  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: SHOCK poll: Eric Cantor (R) in primary trouble !? on: June 11, 2014, 08:29:25 am
If you are Paul Ryan, do you continue on current track to ways and means chair, or do you take this opportunity to become Speaker? (assuming Boehner isn't long for the job)
23  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Romney 2012: The Last Great White Campaign on: November 11, 2012, 06:52:47 pm
Dems lost on all the "major" issues, but tricked people with their embarrassing pandering.  Free birth control shouldn't trump the economy, but Chicago found a way.  It will be interesting to see how the D's play this.  You can't keep the base of the party happy (lunatics) and do the much needed work on serious issues.  This incompatibility inevitably leads to a breakup of the coalition to some extent.  The only way to win 'competence credit' is to enact a minimum 80% R economic plan, which poses more political issues in 2014-2016. 

     
24  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Obama will lose the election on: November 05, 2012, 06:34:49 am
Yea, I really don't know that Obama(incumbent) leading Romney(challenger)  48-47 is actually leading.  Also, the turnout model could well be closer to 2010 than to 2008 and the polls have been closer to 08... we will see. 
25  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Which parties' voters drink more alcohol? on: October 30, 2012, 08:51:02 pm
What about the millions of fizzy, yellow, light beer guzzling NASCAR and football fans (I am admittedly a part of the latter)? I can assure you that Republicans consume just as much, if not more beer, than their Democratic counterparts. Democrats probably win on liquor and fruity mixed drinks, for what it's worth.
That's another fun thought. Who drinks more of certain drinks. First thoughts.

Scotch: Republicans
Bourbon: Republicans
Fine Wine: Democrats
Cosmos: Democrats
Mass produced beer: Republicans
Microbrews: Democrats
etc.

Republicans win on Brandy consumption.  R leaning Wisconsin Germans account for 15% of the nation's consumption by themselves. 
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