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1  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: So...in regards to Classic Conservative... on: May 21, 2017, 09:16:23 pm
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I never said I'd want to sleep with them. I prefer the perfect Aryan from West Newbury, I just complemented how beautiful some black and Hispanic ladies are.

He wrote this little gem right before all of his comments were deleted from the thread. Check my post history with the mad men meme if you're wondering where it came from.

...People have been banned for much less.
2  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of this shirt on: May 21, 2017, 04:23:42 pm
LOL I just realized this would be the perfect shirt to wear on a diplomatic visit to Saudi Arabia.

Why

Christian and Jewish symbols and "My King Is Alive" but not referring to their king. Perfect way to troll that awful country.
3  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of this shirt on: May 21, 2017, 04:12:35 pm
LOL I just realized this would be the perfect shirt to wear on a diplomatic visit to Saudi Arabia.
4  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Opinion of Wikileaks on: May 21, 2017, 11:04:37 am
It's basically a far right Russian propaganda outlet that criticizes leaks that don't assist that agenda, like the Panama Papers. Truly Horrible.
5  General Politics / Individual Politics / Rate the stupidity of this article on: May 20, 2017, 08:28:34 pm
http://everydayfeminism.com/2015/07/white-people-black-hairstyles
6  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Tulsi Gabbard won't accept PAC/Lobbyist money anymore, joining No-Pac Caucus on: May 20, 2017, 02:45:20 pm
Anyone want to get back to me on my Progressive Punch question?

Its doing that for every member so they must have some technical issues now.
7  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Tulsi Gabbard won't accept PAC/Lobbyist money anymore, joining No-Pac Caucus on: May 20, 2017, 11:36:03 am
The reaction to this on reddit is ecstatic. After Gabbard becomes the nominee in 2020, I expect apologies from everyone who doubted my prediction abilities during the 2010s decade.

How many delegates does Reddit have?

8  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Tulsi Gabbard won't accept PAC/Lobbyist money anymore, joining No-Pac Caucus on: May 20, 2017, 11:20:05 am
This forum has the biggest hate boner for Gabbard on the entire internet. I've given up trying to reason with them.
LOL, I don't "hate" her. You see, unlike all the #twiggered #writeinBernie types that put Trump in the White House, I will vote for Tulsi enthusiastically if she's the Democratic nominee, because I'm not a privileged selfish prick.

I just find it hilarious that the same people who thought Hillary was too conservative have latched onto some random Blue Dog just because she has a couple of random progressive positions and endorsed Bernie after it was too late for him to possibly win the nomination. Hell, in this very thread, Shady specifically said that he doesn't care about websites that average all of a politician's political positions into a rating system, he just rates politicians on a couple of cherry-picked issues.

Seriously.

If you want to support Gabbard, then fine have at it. But the support she is getting from "serious" Berniecrats just exposes that this whole movement is personality driven and not policy driven.

These people are full of **** and shouldn't be taking seriously.

This Progressive Punch thing is confusing me.

How exactly was Tulsi's score calculated? It literally has her marked as N/A for every category and sub category.

http://www.progressivepunch.org/members.htm?member=412480

http://www.progressivepunch.org/scores.htm?house=house
9  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Tulsi Gabbard won't accept PAC/Lobbyist money anymore, joining No-Pac Caucus on: May 20, 2017, 07:55:14 am
Putin and Assad will just run proxy campaigns for her.

ISIS will run a proxy campaign for her opponents.

I've never gotten why her Syria trip is trashed as a bad move.

If ISIS (or any other rebels) win, she can play Obama vs. Iraq while pointing at the resulting disaster AND paint herself as a realist on foreign policy.

If Assad wins she can say convincingly that he was better than the people he was fighting, play the realist and "I was right" cards. (Extra points here if disgruntled Islamic radicals pull off a major terror attack on the West/US in the meantime.)

If it's still going on, she can point out that she would have ended the conflict long ago if she were in charge.

Among anyone at all likely to vote for her, there is no downside.


When has a candidate who has not even been a Governor or a Senator won the Democratic nomination? It has not happened in more than a 100 years - From FDR to Truman to JFK to LBJ to Carter to Clinton to Obama, they were all Governors or Senators!

Has Gabbard done anything to even show interest? She is busy trying to keep her seat in Congress where she faces an assault from Neera Tanden & the Clinton hacks! Maizie Hirono is running for re-election for Senate in 2018 which means no seat will be vacant by 2024 (at the earliest).

Gabbard is only 36. And given her age, even if she decides to run for POTUS, 2028 election may be the earliest possible for her (And she may never run !)

Exactly. It's very unlikely she'll even run anyway, but people keep touting her here which causes the backlash.
10  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Tulsi Gabbard won't accept PAC/Lobbyist money anymore, joining No-Pac Caucus on: May 20, 2017, 01:48:53 am
And for the record, I don't think most anti-Gabbard people on this forum would hardly ever talk about her if it wasn't for the fact that so many puzzingly continue to tout her as a likely Presidential candidate despite not having the type of resume or profile that's even remotely close to that of a likely successful Presidential candidate OR having expressed any interest whatsoever in running.
11  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Tulsi Gabbard won't accept PAC/Lobbyist money anymore, joining No-Pac Caucus on: May 20, 2017, 01:46:46 am


This graph isn't suited for atlas, maybe for Breitbart. It is entirely based on opposition party members co-sponsoring your bills & not on ideology or content of bills. Any1 can add 5-6 meaningless bills with 0 GOP co-sponsors & become an ideological partisan!

By this logic, Sheldon Whitehouse is more progressive than Warren ! And shouldn't you be happy if some becomes more progressive ?


Progressive Punch is based on actual votes, and rates her the 137th most progressive member of the House, of which there are 193 Democrats. Not to mention that her district is far more Democratic than many Democrats with higher scores.

Progressive Punch is one those crappy sites which ranks by what they perceive as arbitrary crucial votes, I look at Glass Steagal, Marijuana decriminalization or say Medicare for all. They have their own methodology, they take a lifetime score & rate it by what they think the district stands. It is entirely whimsical.

I have seen them rate on environment & some of their crucial votes were ridiculous & Bernie who comes from VT could never top because VT was a Dem bastion. He was ranked 11 or 12th below many people in overall crucial votes (no. only, not even as a comparison to District/State). It is clear Markey, Merkley & Sanders are 3 of the strongest when it comes to the environment with Sanders winning awards too.

And anyways, I have never thought that Gabbard was more progressive than bernie so I don't get all this ridiculous graphs, shouldn't people be happy that she now supports more progressive policies ?

This forum has the biggest hate boner for Gabbard on the entire internet. I've given up trying to reason with them.

http://www.dailykos.com
12  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Tulsi Gabbard won't accept PAC/Lobbyist money anymore, joining No-Pac Caucus on: May 20, 2017, 01:12:44 am


This graph isn't suited for atlas, maybe for Breitbart. It is entirely based on opposition party members co-sponsoring your bills & not on ideology or content of bills. Any1 can add 5-6 meaningless bills with 0 GOP co-sponsors & become an ideological partisan!

By this logic, Sheldon Whitehouse is more progressive than Warren ! And shouldn't you be happy if some becomes more progressive ?


Progressive Punch is based on actual votes, and rates her the 137th most progressive member of the House, of which there are 193 Democrats. Not to mention that her district is far more Democratic than many Democrats with higher scores.
13  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Democrats: Between Quist & Ossoff, who would rather see win? on: May 19, 2017, 08:04:49 pm
I like Quist but I think Ossoff has more potential for the future of the party.
14  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Gustaf Center for Burn Victims on: May 19, 2017, 06:25:35 pm
Actually read the op and almost all terrible(few exceptions, eg minimum wage increase).

how is the taxing tax shelters bad, how is the college plan bad , how is the healthcare plan bad ,and how is giving incentives to  corporations not shipping jobs overseas bad.

STEM needs more money, humanities don't need much, if any cutting. Buying insurance across state lines doesn't solve anything. People overseas need jobs too, and their economies need it to develop.


I said we should cut humanities programs to fund job training and trade schools . I never said STEM doesn't , as those degrees get people jobs . I clearly said we should cut funding from degrees that don't get people jobs .

Yes  People  in other counties do need  jobs ,but our goverment first priority is to make sure people in our own country get jobs . 
You are what happens when government cuts humanities funding.

Dammit, Scott, beat me to it! Tongue

(In Gateway's defense, my humanities degree has yet to land me stable employment, but seriously, f#ck him)

You have a degree already?

I'm... 21.

That's why I asked. Unless you did a lot of credits fast most people wouldn't get degrees until they were 22 (18+4 years)
15  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Why do so many posters use the phrase "let the states decide" on: May 19, 2017, 06:21:14 pm
I think it became a joke when a lot of people used it as a ridiculous way of avoiding the question. It doesn't actually tell us anything about your opinions (what's my opinion on education? the states should decide imo). It's as if somebody answered questions by saying "the democratically elected Congress should decide" - technically true, but kind of irrelevant in the context of a discussion forum.

The main issue with "let the states decide" in this case is unless you're a federal politician running for office, it doesn't make any sense as a position. "It should be a state issue, but my personal position is this..." is different from just "let the states decide."
16  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Gustaf Center for Burn Victims on: May 19, 2017, 06:19:27 pm
Actually read the op and almost all terrible(few exceptions, eg minimum wage increase).

how is the taxing tax shelters bad, how is the college plan bad , how is the healthcare plan bad ,and how is giving incentives to  corporations not shipping jobs overseas bad.

STEM needs more money, humanities don't need much, if any cutting. Buying insurance across state lines doesn't solve anything. People overseas need jobs too, and their economies need it to develop.


I said we should cut humanities programs to fund job training and trade schools . I never said STEM doesn't , as those degrees get people jobs . I clearly said we should cut funding from degrees that don't get people jobs .

Yes  People  in other counties do need  jobs ,but our goverment first priority is to make sure people in our own country get jobs . 
You are what happens when government cuts humanities funding.

Dammit, Scott, beat me to it! Tongue

(In Gateway's defense, my humanities degree has yet to land me stable employment, but seriously, f#ck him)

You have a degree already?
17  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Lief Reservoir of Simple Truths and Smart One-Liners on: May 19, 2017, 06:17:49 pm
the forum does "nice guy, FF" for some pretty terrible posters but this is a whole nother level
18  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The TrumpCare comes back from the dead (...and lives!) thread on: May 19, 2017, 08:57:27 am
Yeah if Medicaid gets cut and a bunch of people are kicked off it, and those people now go to the ER, the hospital gets paid nothing. Hard to see how that would help anyone.
19  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: So...in regards to Classic Conservative... on: May 18, 2017, 12:18:17 am
To clarify, my position was that we should consider banning CC more for the toxic effect that he has on people interacting with and discussing him than for what he actually posts.

I've revised my opinion on that based on this post. This crosses the line.

Well perhaps both reasons have merit, seeing as how the respective thread, about a noteworthy event was locked, meaning he's both saying terrible things and disrupting the discussion, all the while hiding behind his age.
20  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Where would you rather live? on: May 18, 2017, 12:15:50 am
Defo Nazi Germany, though supposedly according to some tedious people I know, "they killed Catholics/Atheists too."

While the statement is true, they didn't kill anyone specifically for being Catholic or atheist. Also "Catholic/atheist" as a term makes no sense, since the two categories are mutually exclusive, "they killed Catholics and/or atheists too" is probably what you meant.
21  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: So...in regards to Classic Conservative... on: May 18, 2017, 12:13:25 am
Another day, another BRTD post pleading with the mods to ban a conservative.  Go figure.

I would support banning jfern too.
22  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: So...in regards to Classic Conservative... on: May 17, 2017, 11:26:25 pm
What would even be grounds for a ban? he's closer to 18 than to 12.

That's an argument for treating him just like any other poster, instead of those who insist that we coddle him and ignore the many horrible things he says on account of age.
23  About this Site / The Atlas / So...in regards to Classic Conservative... on: May 17, 2017, 10:31:05 pm
If only we could do this to liberals.

I think Nathan made a pretty good point, in that if it's not OK to call him out or attack him on things that just about anyone who be hit pretty hard over due to his age, then we probably need to have a discussion on if he should even be here in the first place.
24  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump team knew Flynn was under investigation before he became NSA on: May 17, 2017, 09:07:24 pm
So will Pence go down with Trump now?

President Paul Ryan?

Well any impeachment of Trump/Pence would require a Democratic House, so it's not happening until at least 2019, and thus President Pelosi.
25  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Radical elected District Attorney of Philadelphia on: May 17, 2017, 12:35:30 pm
Just read that he will never ask for the death penalty as DA. FF!

To be fair the death penalty is effectively unusable in Pennsylvania anyway.
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