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1  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Who will have a higher BMI in January 2016? on: Today at 08:13:58 am
Maybe I'm out of the loop on this, but why is there so much scorn for BushOklahoma here? I rarely visit or post in this section precisely because I don't like personal drama, but after reading some of the OK Corral threads, I'm confused, bewildered and slightly saddened by, well, pretty much everything about this person - the things he writes, the things you all write about him and basically the state of his life in general.

You didn't read the prequels. He proved himself to be a scammer and serial liar in the past. However aside from that, he was given advice countless to prevent him from making a huge mistake, he kept insisting that everything was right and ignoring everyone, and carried on as normal, only for the disaster to happen. So everyone has gotten sick of that and no longer is politely advising him.
2  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Re: BushOklahoma vs. Sam Childers on: May 23, 2013, 08:16:04 am
Jeff by a country mile.

Really? Childers has obviously done far more to help African orphans.
3  General Politics / Economics / Re: Oh sh**t. on: May 23, 2013, 08:02:54 am
Do you ever get tired of being presumptius dooms-day prophet?
4  General Politics / Political Debate / Which of these countries would you rather live in? on: May 22, 2013, 08:53:43 pm
Libertineland: A nominal parliamentary democracy, but really just on paper. Libertineland is in fact an oligarchical dominant party regime where the ruling party keeps power via fraud and bribes, and a huge patronage machine. The ruling ideology is a sort of vague corporatism where the citizens are kept happy with basic social services and universal health care (funded by some oil wells in the outlying areas) while being mostly free market, but really power is concentrated in hands of the oligarchs and their friends. Socially though Libertineland is quite laissez-faire. Gay marriage was just legalized. Prostitution is not only legal, but effectively encouraged, and brothels exist everywhere as do strip clubs and sex shops. Even when municipalities try to zone them into certain areas they pop up under front businesses and operate quite openly. Libertineland is often cited as a top problem country for human trafficking, which it has come under massive criticism for mostly ignoring, the country also is known for lax enforcement on laws involving the age of consent. Unsurprisingly Libertineland is a top sex tourism destination. Marijuana is decriminalized and effectively non-enforced, and even hard drugs are not difficult to obtain and unenforced if you know the right people. Abortion is fully legal and even medical regulations on it are generally ignored. The media is quite lax in obscenity rules and even pornography is sometimes aired on the public airwaves but censorship of dissenting views against the ruling party is notable. The secularist government isn't fond of religions and in general tries to isolate the churches and limit their influence on government, the Christian Democratic Party earns less than 10% of the vote usually, though this is also due to massive voter fraud and patronage on behalf of the ruling party. Libertineland is also known for lax laws on alcohol sales and consumption, and certain areas are known as large problem areas for drunk driving as a result.

Antifaland: On paper this was a standard democracy for awhile with a fairly strong economy. Gay marriage was just recently legalized, abortion is legal under nominally heavy restrictions, but in enforcement is generally allowed, prostitution is legal but not heavily restricted and difficult to engage in without violating other laws, and basic social services and universal healthcare are provided. However after a difficult economic downturn, a far right power rose to prominence and posed a threat to the ruling center-left party that had dominated politics. The response was brutal. At first all known supporters and voters for the far right party were purged from government employment, and later private businesses did with the state's encouragement. The situation escalated after a few small scale attacks from a far right group, and had a huge response. The state declared all out war on almost all far right sympathizers. Parliamentarians were beaten to death leaving Parliament by angry mobs. Known sympathizers were criminally harassed and victims of arson and vandalism, usually ignored by the police after all far right sympathizers were fired from it. In a couple instances vigilante killings or beatings from angry mobs of leaders of the movement also occurred, which were generally ignored. One paramilitary group that was formed obtained a list of party supporters and announced that for every action from any far right group they would kill ten supporters of the party, whether violent or non-violent. This crushing purge effectively annihilated the far right. The government is now essentially under a form of reverse McCarthyism, even center-right parties and supporters are viewed with suspicion and kept under surveillance, and publicly mocked. The mostly secular public generally ignores the church, during the years of turmoil many newly planted evangelical and some Catholic churches known to have priests sympathetic to the far right movement were destroyed by angry mobs with some vigilante killings of priests (many of which were not supporters of the far right, though the government has generally tried to cover this up and portrayed all victims as far right sympathizers) though the Catholic Church later collaborated with the government and removed priests with known far right sympathies. The vote for even the center-right is greatly dwindling, with many leaving the country.

Sceneland: A small enclave of Antifland which seceded during the years of bloodshed, sceneland was seized by some counter-culture activists who denounced even the ruling center-left government as reactionary. They established a mini-state which now rules a couple square kilometers of a major city with a population of around 50,000. Though it calls itself a libertated free state, it is in practice an authoritarian regime. The place is known for its indie rock venues and lax drug policies, to the point where marijuana use is even encouraged by the rulers. However many forms of music are banned as "reactionary" including metal, rap, country and most mainstream pop, as are most Hollywood films where distribution is prohibited. TV signals carry mainstream TV shows, but if found to be viewing one one can be arrested for "reactionary behavior" and put into a "rehabiliation" program. Shortly after the establishment of Sceneland all traditional churches were destroyed in the area, today all Christians and other religious groups can meet only in peoples' houses or makeshift churches, and even these groups can be arrested and shut down if the rulers find out about them and consider them to be imposing "heirarchical, patriarchial or reactionary values", and preachers who have preached against homosexuality or for the submission of wives have been arrested and submitted to "rehabilitation". Homosexuality is quite tolerated, though the ruling force doesn't recognize gay marriage or any form of marriage, considering it an "outdated patriarchal institution". Though more traditional residents fled Sceneland after its institution, it became a popular spot for hipsters and the counter-culture who are moving in and now has one of the largest per capita rates of coffee shops and record stores in the world. Sceneland made international headlines following its arrest of a resident for "reactionary behavior" after he was seen wearing a tie in public, and while standing trial before a "people's tribunal" was able to avoid a sentence to "rehabilitation" by successfully arguing that he was only wearing the tie "ironically".
5  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Study: US officially used torture after 9/11 on: May 21, 2013, 08:45:57 pm
6  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Hungary Destroys All Monsanto GMO Corn Fields on: May 21, 2013, 08:20:59 am
That said as stupid as kneejerk anti-GMO hysteria is, I approve of this action. Monsanto needs to be destroyed.
7  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The memphis Memorial Deluge of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts on: May 21, 2013, 08:07:05 am
Context: This is in a thread about anti-GM actions taken by the government of Hungary:


The funny thing is that unscientific views on GM foods are far far more harmful than the young earth creationism that I keep hearing about.

Which doesn't make young earth creationism any more scientific or any more constitutional to teach in public schools. Anything useful to add?

Perhaps, but certainly GM is more pressing.  Besides, this shows the utter hypocrisy of the far-left when they claim to hold the mantle on scientific progress.  They don't.

Emphasis mine.
8  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Hungary Destroys All Monsanto GMO Corn Fields on: May 21, 2013, 08:05:00 am

The funny thing is that unscientific views on GM foods are far far more harmful than the young earth creationism that I keep hearing about.

Which doesn't make young earth creationism any more scientific or any more constitutional to teach in public schools. Anything useful to add?

Perhaps, but certainly GM is more pressing.  Besides, this shows the utter hypocrisy of the far-left when they claim to hold the mantle on scientific progress.  They don't.

OMG, LOL. Hungary has a nationalist quasi-fascist government, the furthest right in the EU. Not exactly "far left"
9  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Am I a bad feminist/hypocrite because I like Jay-Z and Eminem? on: May 21, 2013, 08:00:22 am
No, but you have absolutely awful taste in music. Tongue
10  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: where in the south could an atheist get elected to congress? on: May 20, 2013, 08:02:13 am
Bennet's not an atheist though.
11  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: Do comedians like Bill Maher hurt Democrats with rural/white voters? on: May 20, 2013, 08:00:11 am
LBJ belonged to a fairly liberal church (Disciples of Christ)
12  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Iowa's population is 61% urban. Does this surprise you? on: May 19, 2013, 11:55:39 pm
If you can't understand why Iowa has such a high proportion of white liberal voters, then you probably are thinking of "white liberals" as exclusively as like the stereotypical resident of San Francisco or like hippie organic farmers. If you interviewed a bunch of people in Des Moines, Cedar Rapids or Davenport about gay marriage, tax rates, health care, the environment and marijuana, and then a bunch of people somewhere like southeast Minneapolis/southwest St. Paul or Madison, WI, you'd find that the views expressed would be pretty similar. The Iowa cities might have more conservatives in general, but the median voter is going to be someone with generally liberal views on all those issues.

(I didn't mention Iowa City because that's actually closer to San Francisco or west central Minneapolis.)
13  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Joe Biden on Violent Video Games on: May 19, 2013, 11:26:57 pm
The only FPS that has those as the enemy are the last couple Medal of Honors. The enemies in the Middle Eastern levels of any Call of Duty game are obviously not Islamists (except possibly the first couple levels of Modern Warfare 2 in Afghanistan)
14  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of saying "I could care less" on: May 18, 2013, 11:46:08 pm
Disgusting.

Good you realize this. Now if you would only learn what the word "literally" means.
15  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Who do you trust more in regards to claims about Benghazi? on: May 18, 2013, 04:27:02 pm
Obviously option 1. It's become pretty clear that Republicans falsified evidence and are entirely full of sh!t in regards to this. I trust the Administration 100% on this.
16  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update Season VII: "The OK Corral" on: May 18, 2013, 02:44:29 pm
bushie wont approve me as a friend on the fb Sad
His parents might find out he's friends with an atheist. Then, he'd be homeless.

I just approved Walter as a friend.

My parents could care less who I'm friends with, and I could care less if they cared more.

UGH

http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=173690.0
17  Forum Community / Forum Community / Opinion of saying "I could care less" on: May 18, 2013, 02:43:22 pm
Negative as it's incorrectly used more than 99% of the time.

If you don't care then it's "I couldn't care less". Basic grammar people and not hard to say/type.
18  General Discussion / Constitution and Law / Re: Abortion Monster Gets Life Sentence on: May 18, 2013, 12:34:38 pm
Like I said in another thread, there is a less than 1% chance of Gosnell actually being executed had he been sentenced to death. The only difference is the state will waste loads of more money on appeals and clog up the legal system. Regardless of your views on the death penalty there is no point in sentencing someone to it in Pennsylvania.
19  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / opebo vs. Kermit Gosnell on: May 18, 2013, 11:15:48 am
opebo vs. Kermit Gosnell
20  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Joe Biden on Violent Video Games on: May 17, 2013, 10:05:24 pm
Someone clearly missed the point of the Modern Warfare series, which is to show just how pointless and destructive war is. You remember those quotes that appeared on the earlier games after death before reloading? Not exactly glorifying war. Plus the first Modern Warfare had at the time one of the craziest twists ever in a video game, in the middle of it one of your characters not only died and was it entirely unavoidable, but it was also incredibly pointless and accomplished nothing. And then in Modern Warfare 2 you have a nationalist and militaristic general as the main enemy...etc. Aside from the mentioned fact that there are very few Middle Eastern enemies in the CoD series, in fact the only game with any significant number was the first Modern Warfare. And the Battlefield games didn't have any Middle Eastern enemies until Battlefield 3, in which cases the CIA and military were also pretty demonized and insulted, even the Russian special forces came across as far more admirable than just about all the American characters. Anyone also ever played Spec Ops: The Line? It's a shooter set in the Middle East...and the villains are a rogue American military unit and the CIA.

Something hilariously ironic is that the closest thing to a truly jingoinistic and pro-military video game I've ever played (the first Medal of Honor in the modern series) was also banned on military bases and attacked by normally jingoinistic and military loving politicians because of the "play as the Taliban" thing clearly from people who aren't familiar with how multiplayer works.

As for Biden's...well it's not even really a suggestion, it's silly and never going to pass, but not a First Amendment violation. The biggest issue aside from the fact that no federal sales taxes on anything exists, is defining "violent video game" and how much lawsuits would go over this. Does Angry Birds count as "violence"? A state could conceivably pass a tax on video games in general of course, but it's pretty obvious increasing the price of a $59.99 video game after taxes from $64.64 to say $65.24 isn't going to decrease sales any...if that's even the goal.
21  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Civil War in Syria on: May 17, 2013, 09:18:02 pm
Well if the Koran forbids it, that's just evidence AGAINST someone being a radical Islamist.

Regardless it's a lot of debate over one person. I'm sure you could find more than a few cases of Assad's forces desecrating the dead.
22  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Iowa's population is 61% urban. Does this surprise you? on: May 17, 2013, 09:14:32 pm
No (Has actually been to Iowa and understands what the state is actually like and doesn't assume based on stereotypes)
23  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Civil War in Syria on: May 17, 2013, 08:12:29 am
Rebel caught on video eating heart of dead soldier: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-22523804 (not a link to the actual video)

Surprised nobody posted it... not.

But I'm SURE he's just a single bad apple sullying the reputation of otherwise noble rebel forces, right? Right??

Actually from the article:

Quote
The main Syrian opposition coalition said he would be put on trial.

Disturbing but not exactly a war crime in my view anyway, biting the heart of someone who's already dead doesn't hurt the dead person any more than they already are.
24  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: "Doctor" Kermit Gosnell found guilty. on: May 16, 2013, 11:46:10 pm
It'll be a Pennsylvania prison of course.

And anyone familiar with the Pennsylvania death penalty knows that it's really just a more expensive form of life in prison. There is a less than 1% chance of Gosnell actually being executed even if he was sentenced to it.
25  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2012 U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: How did these industries voted in the 2012 election? on: May 16, 2013, 10:28:30 pm
Well when you talk about "sales and support" I'm thinking of ground level people. And it's pretty clear that the Geek Squad and Apple Store employees aren't mostly voting Romney.
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