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101  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Would you rather live in Forsyth County, GA or an >85% Obama precinct in Iowa? on: November 18, 2014, 11:26:44 pm
But seriously. This:

or this:

102  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Would you rather live in Forsyth County, GA or an >85% Obama precinct in Iowa? on: November 18, 2014, 11:11:56 pm
Forsyth (lower cost-of-living, warm, and good schools)

Huh? We're comparing a non-gentrifying part of a working class mid-sized Midwestern city versus a sprawly fast growing mess housing the bourgeoisie of a major metropolitan area.

Also Iowa is consistently ranked as having one of the best education systems in the country. It has the third highest high school graduation rate of all states.
103  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Bushie's Marian theology on: November 18, 2014, 11:07:17 pm
Your Mary fetish is kinda disturbing.  But then its quite typical for Catholics to be smug about their pagan substitute worship.

I suppose you pray to Saints, elevating them to the level of God... Hell,myou probably even light candles to idolatrous images of them in your church.  Cuz God was vague when it came to idol worship...

Now watch the catholics get huffy and indignant and holier than thou.

I say if you're going to be Christian, then stick to the message of Jesus.

That's not a particularly accurate summary of Catholic marian theology or view of the saints, but I agree with the underlying idea.
104  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XVIII: 15 Miles From Lunch on: November 18, 2014, 11:06:22 pm
I actually think Bushie might be a reincarnation of the Buddha having a laugh to see what it's like as a Southern Baptist. He certainly has all the characteristics. Passive. Fat. Optimistic. He's not directly expressing any Buddha-like wisdom but perhaps that is part of the lesson, part of the joke.  Certainly his story is a parable for our times.

Despite a common portrayal, it's very unlikely the actual Buddha was fat at all, and the lifestyle he lived and advocated is about as far from Bushie's as is humanly possible. It's pretty obvious that if Buddha was alive today he wouldn't be constantly shoving garbage into his stomach while slouched on the couch watching football games for hours a day.
105  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Bushie's Marian theology on: November 18, 2014, 10:55:12 pm
I'm not comfortable with Catholic Marian theology at all, and even I vote HT for Bushie's extremely childish and oversimplification.

I should point out perhaps my biggest issue with the Immaculate Conception is you can't accept it without accepting that the Original Sin theology applies to everyone else, which I'm not willing to do.
106  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Oklahoma on: November 18, 2014, 05:19:14 pm
I'm curious how a state where you can't even buy alcohol on Sundays ranks #1.
107  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XVIII: 15 Miles From Lunch on: November 18, 2014, 02:55:21 pm
What about religion isn't misogynistic? The whole ball of wax is about a small number of men (specifically) controlling a population.

In my church women are total equals in all things including being pastors and leadership. And I would never join a church where this was not the case.
108  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XVIII: 15 Miles From Lunch on: November 18, 2014, 11:24:41 am
Good morning, guys.  I'm about to leave for work at 0700.  It's not so much that my brother finally got to me, but he's reinforcing what many have said.

You may call God a pervert, but remember He created the people who created the laws.  He can do whatever He wants and no one can deny that.  History shows that Mary was probably a 14 year old girl.  If that happened by anybody else it would be a crime, but everyone agrees that God is above all worldly laws.

Uh... I don't.

He of course means everyone within his ridiculously purified social circle (or perhaps just all of Oklahoma). I have no idea what his Facebook is like, but I imagine it and his entire community is just filled with people who interject "AMEN!" and "HALLELUJAH" and "PRAISE HIM, GLORY" and every other variation you can think of into everything, no matter how (in)appropriate or irrelevant in context, including things where they just try to make selfishness, greed or other sinful behavior seem holy by adding a shoutout to God on the end of it.  I actually saw this come across my FB feed just a few minutes ago at the same time I was reading this, and thought to myself, "this would definitely be one of Bushie's "spiritual" counterparts if they lived in the same neighborhood (well, if she wasn't black; it is Oklahoma, after all):

That's basically from what I gathered what his Facebook feed is like. The exception being his sister-in-law who is the only person willing to call him out on the crap that to us is blatantly obvious and we do all the time.
109  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XVIII: 15 Miles From Lunch on: November 18, 2014, 11:19:12 am
I don't see how any can claim Mary's exact age based on the Bible.

Now based on the standards of the time and that she was a virgin we can conclude that she was young but 14 is kind of specific. A statistical guess based on laws of averages and all that would put her at probably considered a minor in today's society but still above age of consent in most places (16-17)
110  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / "Don't forget to get your 2013 Gubernatorial Endorsements and Predictions in!" on: November 18, 2014, 10:53:59 am
Might be time to update that News ticker a bit I think.
111  General Politics / Individual Politics / Opinion of Reddit on: November 17, 2014, 11:09:55 pm
It has a lot of really useful and good stuff on it, but on balance it's a HS. r/Ingress is actually pretty boring, mostly noob questions, bragging and whining about bugs and stuff. Some of the math and physics sub-reddits are cool though, and of course the Good Guy Greg/Scumbag Steve/Sudden Clarity Clarence stuff is absolutely classic. But on balance it's way more than cancelled out by the utter crap on it.
112  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Oklahoma on: November 17, 2014, 11:02:54 pm
Let me tell y'all a story. In high school, I was in some academic competition, and the teacher drove us (the team; me and four other guys) up to Tulsa, I believe, for the weekend to partake in the competition. Now the drive from Austin to Tulsa is a long and desolate one. For hours you drive along with no sight of civilization, surrounded on all sides by dreary flatness. And then you cross the border from the great state of Texas, and this suffocating feeling of dread and despair washes over you. You're drowning in it. Suddenly, the bleak flatness in the rearview mirror doesn't seem so bad. Hell, you'd even settle for goddamn f[inks]ing Dallas at this point. Anywhere but Oklahoma.

Oklahoma is the worst place I have ever visited in my entire life. I would rather die than be forced to return to that god-forsaken wasteland of a state.

So did I luck out by not being able to go to the big event there and instead going to Iowa this weekend then?
113  Forum Community / Forum Community / Opinion of Oklahoma on: November 17, 2014, 10:44:07 pm
Currently, it's a Freedom State: https://plus.google.com/103320655754019011706/posts/LDwPgq8wofG

We won Tulsa too. The state does better here than it does in voting!
114  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Re: opebo vs. ISIS on: November 17, 2014, 10:29:41 pm

Heh, I was under the impression you always found opebo amusing and opposed his banning. Thus making this a very easy choice for you.
115  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Boehner kills internet sales tax bill on: November 17, 2014, 10:29:02 pm
The biggest problem with the current law is if you order from retailers that do both online and in store sales, like Best Buy, you still have to pay sales taxes. So it's not even an even playing field in terms of e-retailers only.

I don't see any problem with requiring such taxes to be paid in either type of sale. If you oppose sales taxes in general, then you should get your state to abolish them, like some don't have any. But having sales taxes apply to only some businesses is completely unfair.
116  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / opebo vs. ISIS on: November 17, 2014, 10:17:43 pm
opebo vs. ISIS
117  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Would you rather live in Forsyth County, GA or an >85% Obama precinct in Iowa? on: November 17, 2014, 10:15:11 pm
You know, despite its reputation, Iowa is actually a pretty "sinful" state.

-Some of the laxest alcohol laws in the country. Doesn't get much attention primarily because the state with the country's laxest overall is right to its south.
-Hordes of casinos and gambling. Wouldn't surprise me if its after Nevada as having the second highest number of casinos per capita. In fact literally the first thing you see after crossing the border from Minnesota on I-35W is a casino. Plus you can play slots in gas stations.
-Strip clubs aplenty. Des Moines has almost as many as Minneapolis, as the other cities aren't too off either.

I mean hell Iowa is far more lax on all those things than Minnesota, Wisconsin or Illinois, yet for some reason is commonly thought of as more "moral" than all those neighboring states.
118  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Snow driving... on: November 17, 2014, 10:06:32 pm
My limit is when the roads are so filled I can't get my car out.
119  General Politics / Individual Politics / Would you rather live in Forsyth County, GA or an >85% Obama precinct in Iowa? on: November 17, 2014, 10:01:38 pm
Easy choice.
120  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Who do you support in the raging sexism battle in the Absurdity thread? on: November 17, 2014, 07:10:49 pm
121  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XVIII: 15 Miles From Lunch on: November 17, 2014, 12:26:02 pm
The other issue here is pay. Bushie is obviously not PTO eligible yet so every day he misses, excused or not is basically docked pay. Even if the job gives opportunities to make up the lost hours we all know if Bushie will actually do so...
122  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Sweden Considering Sexism Labels For Video Games on: November 17, 2014, 01:08:17 am
People tend to forget the Bechdel Test was created tongue-in-cheek in a comic strip mostly intending to just make a point in an amusing way: https://ladygeekgirl.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/bechdel-test-original-comic.jpg I doubt it was intended to hold up Alien (which it notes as passing) as some type of feminist paragon. I also bet the number of porn films that pass it is fairly long.

But aside from the already made obvious points about how no one is going to take this seriously ever, the grant mentioned in the OP is basically one employee's salary. So not much of anything really.
123  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Have you ever been to a majority non-white neighborhood in Iowa? on: November 17, 2014, 12:49:46 am
I'm just glad you've returned safe and sound from that accursed state, with all your testicles still attached.

I actually saw a Braley sign still up. But not surprising, the place I was mostly in heavily voted the correct way.
124  Forum Community / Forum Community / Have you ever been to a majority non-white neighborhood in Iowa? on: November 16, 2014, 11:48:55 pm
Well now I have. In fact my main contacts are quite lucky to live in an 89.7% Obama in 2008 precinct, which managed to beat even my 2008 numbers of almost 89% flat for Obama! Quite impressive.

But yes, Des Moines. Not what most people who haven't been there would expect. Impressive downtown with real skyscrapers, and probably one of the most "urban" layouts I've ever seen in a city with the parking on the majority of streets banned on one side and the streets overall more narrow than Minneapolis. And plenty of small houses, most without driveways, reminds me of the neighborhoods of Minneapolis like the Northeast or Longfellow. Des Moines proper actually is lacking any real suburban sprawly areas, though you don't have to leave far to find those I have learned. But nice for what it is.

Other things I learned:

-Iowa's extremely lax liquor laws impressed me. There's not many actual liquor stores in Iowa, but that's because you can buy alcohol almost everywhere, in gas stations, grocery stores and even Target sells hard liquor. Oh and the only times sales are restricted are 2-6am, now compare that to Minnesota's ban on any offsale from 10PM-8AM and none at all on Sundays. Minnesota does need to get with the picture.
-Iowa's state capitol is really cool looking. Way better than Minnesota's (which is actually kind of ugly), better than Wisconsin's (which is rather boring) and better than North Dakota's, which is an efficiently designed skyscraper that is the tallest building in North Dakota, but still also boring. The golden dome is really cool! Also the Iowa Capitol Grounds still have a building named after Henry Wallace, which is also cool.
-Des Moines calls its transit system DART standing for Des Moines Area Regional Transit. But as acronyms go this is silly, it should be DMART, like would anyone ever abbreviate New York City with just an N? But I'll let them slide, because DART actually sounds really good and looks nice on the buses and bus stops, DMART just wouldn't be as appealing.

Honestly there's something to be said about having a relatively small actual downtown area and then a larger surrounding area of heavily mixed commercial and high density residential territory rather than the major city pattern of an almost exclusively commercial and government downtown and tons of high density residential areas surrounding it, it's convenient in a way and actually arguably further away from cookie cutter suburbia as well. A very common pattern in mid-sized Midwestern cities, see also Fargo and Duluth. But ultimately give me my high density tracts, easy public transportation or walking distance if it's not cold to downtown, and still plenty of commerce even if further out it's all residential like I have now. But it's better to live in such a place than the boring suburbs of a real majority city. But ultimately if I were in Des Moines I'd have to deal with a Republican Governor, soon to be two Republican Senators including one who is a total lunatic, and a Republican representative, while I currently live without a single Republican representing me at any level. Yeah appealing but I'm better off where I am.
125  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Not going to be around much if at all this weekend on: November 14, 2014, 11:30:01 pm
Story County 2012:
Barack H. Obama Joseph R. Biden, Jr. 26,192
Willard Mitt Romney Paul Ryan 19,668

Story County 2014:
Bruce Braley 16,104
Joni Ernst 15,102

Sioux County 2012:
Willard Mitt Romney Paul Ryan 14,407
Barack H. Obama    Joseph R. Biden, Jr. 2,700

Sioux County 2014:
Joni Ernst 11,550   
Bruce Braley 1,462

Braley barely retained 60% of Obama's votes while Ernst retained almost 75% of Romney's, meanwhile in Sioux Ernst retained over 80% of Romney's votes. And...that's basically what happened everywhere. Please get excited about politics again sometime youngs!
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