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101  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of this song ("thrash metal" content) on: June 16, 2015, 12:03:50 am
Pretty good tune. I like Metallica's early stuff.

What?! This song has about two minutes of pure pointless wankery until the actual song begins...and then there's zero payoff. Just grating annoying vocals and more of the same junk over and over. No sick breakdowns or mosh parts ANYWHERE. It's like listening to someone mow the lawn.
102  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of this song ("thrash metal" content) on: June 15, 2015, 11:51:26 pm
I am now SOOOOOOO glad I've made it through 31 years of my life having only heard a handful of Metallica songs now.
103  Forum Community / Forum Community / Opinion of this song ("thrash metal" content) on: June 15, 2015, 11:46:10 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bg92QpjRcJk

This was posted elsewhere and is some of the most awful and utterly unlistenable garbage I've ever heard. I said give me some country...or hip-hop...or Disney Channel pop star crap over this garbage any day, it made me want to shove pencils in my ears. I mean f[inks], old style Metallica is even WORSE than I expected, which is saying a lot.

Let me put it this way: If anything that sounded like this was ever played at my hipster church, I'd walk straight out and find my way to the nearest Catholic Mass. Where was that worst songs of all time nomination thread? This needs an entry.
104  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Sneakers O'Toole on: June 15, 2015, 11:15:55 pm
I don't get the last sentence. Since Purgatory is a Catholic belief and all....

Also no mention of John Oliver.
105  Forum Community / Forum Community / Opinion of Atlas banned posters poll #3: AggregateDemand on: June 15, 2015, 10:43:16 pm
Straha 50% FF
Einzige 76.2% HP

For Day 3, let's go with the most recent banning.
106  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Bad news for lovers of cartographic historical border whimsy on: June 15, 2015, 09:38:13 pm
You still have Belgium and the Netherlands.
107  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Sneakers O'Toole on: June 15, 2015, 03:09:34 pm
Because its the funniest thing ever aired on television.
108  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Minneapolis-St. Paul archbishop and top deputy resign on: June 15, 2015, 09:34:18 am
http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/15/us/minnesota-archbishop-resigns

This is actually kind of shocking. Nienstedt was probably the top backer for the 2012 failed anti-gay marriage amendment and the media was picking up stories about how he was driving people out of the church left and right. But obviously his mishandling of sexual abuser priests which just resulted in the archdiocese being formally charged by the Ramsey County prosecutor and earlier having to go through bankruptcy earlier this year after paying off tons of settlements to victims was an even bigger issue and the reason he's going now.

I doubt this will do too much to help improve the absolutely crumbling state of the Catholic church in the Twin Cities though.
109  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Where Would You Rather Live In: Orange County vs. Long Island on: June 15, 2015, 09:01:51 am
Long Island because there are some urban parts like Hempstead.
110  Forum Community / Forum Community / Opinion of Atlas banned posters poll #2: Einzige on: June 14, 2015, 11:35:22 pm
Straha: 50% FF

I've decided to only run these for one day.

Anyway as for Einzige...yeah, there have been few more obvious votes.
111  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of death metal and black metal on: June 14, 2015, 08:12:08 pm
Much better than As bad as that crap you are listening to, BRTD.

And more similar than he realizes, especially in the reliance on guttural intentionally unintelligible lyrics. The scenester "values" ostensibly at odds with death metal doesn't change the likeness of the music itself.

Not that he'd ever admit it, let alone to himself, because Dudefest and whatever.

Uh, but my music has no gutteral vocals. Just because the lyrics aren't always intelligible doesn't make the vocals gutteral style or mean they sound the same, because they don't.

Like do you seriously think the vocals in this and this sound the same?

Also why do metalheads have the inverse attitude? They usually hate my music just as much as I hate metal.

Heh. A number of the song links you've posted would contrdict you. That execrable cover of whole lotta love comes immediately to mind. The fact you found two songs to prove the exception doesn't disprove the (general) rule.

Uh, this is the Whole Lotta Love cover. Those are NOT death metal vocals or gutteral in any way. They're actually quite high pitched, the exact opposite of death metal vocals.

Oh here's a prefect example: the song I'm listening to now

Now aside from the vocals also being nothing like death or black metal, it's also quite different in how there's mosh parts and breakdowns everywhere. And that's not just something in this one song, it's a defining trait of the genre. You find it EVERWHERE in hardcore, even the pop punk style hardcore bands...and just about nowhere in metal. Some breakdowns maybe, but I've never heard a metal song with intentionally moshy parts. Just about EVERY hardcore song has some type of drastic tempo change in it even the insanely short ones (hell, this is the perfect example), death metal bands usually play the same thing through the whole song.

Oh! NOW I see it perfectly! There isn't any similarity in vocals whatsoever between these genres. At all! It is completely night and day. Despite being more than a tad familiar over 30 years with many genres of metal and punk, how could I ever fail to notice the COMPLETE disparity between these music types.

LOL! I showed a few friends your links and, while we all agreed of course there was some difference with Kid Dynamite, the other two links are VERY similar, and your inability (unwillingness?) to acknowledge the similarity was literally lulz-worthy.

It's like you have to construct some artificial purity fence around every aspect of the sub-cultures you worship in order to protect your own sense of self-identity. Heaven forbid the music that decorates the scene in which you've immersed yourself have any strong influence from the music of a non-progressive, affirming, etc. sub-culture. It's like you're.......a cultural vegan in your insistence on purity despite, sorry to say, your music was prepared on surfaces and tools also used to produce metal.

I imagine your life-view would go into an unalterable tailspin if you ever accepted that your favorite bands took musical cues from proto-death bands like Slayer (even if they themselves would refuse to accept it). But then what would one expect from a musical ostrich who famously claimed Mississippi to be dead last among states in musical influence? Roll Eyes (Damn, but if that statement didn't prove you to be whiter than any 5 Republicans I know, combined).

There...really isn't any vocal similarity. Like I mean that completely sincerely. Death metal vocals are known for low growling "guttural" vocals, the vocals in question here are high pitched. Sure both are rather unintelligible, but that doesn't make them the same. I mean I can also say that death metal and black metal vocals aren't the same either, even though I hate both.

Now if the music I listened to IS exactly the same as metal except for the cultures around it, then why is there any separation in say Pandora judging only the sound? If I just heard some random band, how would I know if they were hardcore or metal based only on the sound if it's the same. The reason is because there is a difference, which I find quite clear and obvious even if you don't like either. I can tell the difference between death and black metal too, even though I hate both.

There's plenty of other clear differences that you kind of ignored, such as the lack of sick mosh parts in metal. Hell I remember once finding this Iron Maiden video somewhere and thought "Why is no one moshing?"

Furthermore if you talk to any "fence sitter" who isn't particularly into either culture and actually listens to both hardcore and metal (like Dallasfan on this forum), they'll tell you there are significant differences. I have found though that such people tend to ignore the most extreme examples on both ends, like brutal death metal or the sobbing on stage emo type of hardcore, but thus they can also tell you the two are HUGELY different. In fact if it was the exact same type of music then how did the different cultures even develop in the first place?
112  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Post-hardcore cover of "Hurt", the best version! on: June 14, 2015, 08:07:30 pm
Oops! Look likes the band effed up its sound mixing!

This reminds me of the time I was listening to Rainer Maria in the car when my mom was down here and she complained about how the two vocalists sing out of harmony and out of key.

Don't blame your mom because you listen to bands whose singers are out of tune and can't carry harmony. Even in pun k those things can matter.

18-1 vote---LOL!

This is the song in question (and it's definitely not punk). It's obviously intentional.
113  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Opinion of "Liberal Triumphalism" on: June 14, 2015, 11:31:22 am
So BRTD is endorsing genocide?

Of course not. Jesus isn't going to kill anyone.
114  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Do You Wish J. J. still posted? on: June 14, 2015, 10:19:53 am
Not unless Alcon regularly did as well. Seeing Alcon utterly and brutally own him was the only positive thing about him.
115  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of death metal and black metal on: June 14, 2015, 01:02:18 am
Much better than As bad as that crap you are listening to, BRTD.

And more similar than he realizes, especially in the reliance on guttural intentionally unintelligible lyrics. The scenester "values" ostensibly at odds with death metal doesn't change the likeness of the music itself.

Not that he'd ever admit it, let alone to himself, because Dudefest and whatever.

Uh, but my music has no gutteral vocals. Just because the lyrics aren't always intelligible doesn't make the vocals gutteral style or mean they sound the same, because they don't.

Like do you seriously think the vocals in this and this sound the same?

Also why do metalheads have the inverse attitude? They usually hate my music just as much as I hate metal.

Heh. A number of the song links you've posted would contrdict you. That execrable cover of whole lotta love comes immediately to mind. The fact you found two songs to prove the exception doesn't disprove the (general) rule.

Uh, this is the Whole Lotta Love cover. Those are NOT death metal vocals or gutteral in any way. They're actually quite high pitched, the exact opposite of death metal vocals.

Oh here's a prefect example: the song I'm listening to now

Now aside from the vocals also being nothing like death or black metal, it's also quite different in how there's mosh parts and breakdowns everywhere. And that's not just something in this one song, it's a defining trait of the genre. You find it EVERWHERE in hardcore, even the pop punk style hardcore bands...and just about nowhere in metal. Some breakdowns maybe, but I've never heard a metal song with intentionally moshy parts. Just about EVERY hardcore song has some type of drastic tempo change in it even the insanely short ones (hell, this is the perfect example), death metal bands usually play the same thing through the whole song.

I find the story behind the band Mayhem awfully compelling.

The actual music is horrendous obviously (although I think that was kind of the point).

Not too sure if "compelling" is the word I'd use. "Interesting" perhaps, but all of them were pretty obviously terrible people and not anyone I'd like to be anything like.
116  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What type of phone do you use/are you a Christian? on: June 14, 2015, 12:44:26 am
So (he asked with trepidation ), what's the theory?

So I was at a mewithoutYou show and I saw people texting on iPhones everywhere. And I was thinking "Ugh Christian scene people, you are right about just about everything, why can't you use good Android phones like most of my atheist friends do for f[inks] sake?" At least they were drinking good beer.

Weirdly though, this poll shows the OPPOSITE correlation.
117  Forum Community / Forum Community / Opinion of Inks on: June 13, 2015, 06:07:24 pm
The stuff I'm hearing now is even WORSE than the stuff we already know.

A truly messed up human being.
118  Forum Community / Forum Community / What type of phone do you use/are you a Christian? on: June 13, 2015, 12:44:09 pm
Testing out a theory of mine I thought of last night...
119  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of death metal and black metal on: June 13, 2015, 12:25:07 pm
Much better than As bad as that crap you are listening to, BRTD.

And more similar than he realizes, especially in the reliance on guttural intentionally unintelligible lyrics. The scenester "values" ostensibly at odds with death metal doesn't change the likeness of the music itself.

Not that he'd ever admit it, let alone to himself, because Dudefest and whatever.

Uh, but my music has no gutteral vocals. Just because the lyrics aren't always intelligible doesn't make the vocals gutteral style or mean they sound the same, because they don't.

Like do you seriously think the vocals in this and this sound the same?

Also why do metalheads have the inverse attitude? They usually hate my music just as much as I hate metal.
120  Forum Community / Forum Community / Opinion of Atlas banned posters poll #1: Straha on: June 13, 2015, 01:36:40 am
A new series. Two days per poster.

Straha gets a definite FF vote from me.
121  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of xenogard? on: June 13, 2015, 12:49:42 am
Indeed. He's a great guy.
122  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Did you ever look for the "like" button for a post here only to not find one? on: June 12, 2015, 09:49:49 pm
Haha yes.
123  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Is Andrew WK a Republican? on: June 12, 2015, 06:43:22 pm
If he is I'm deleting all his music from my computer.
124  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of death metal and black metal on: June 12, 2015, 10:51:10 am
No Katy Perry is mostly bad music. But yes metal is trash.
125  Forum Community / Forum Community / Opinion of death metal and black metal on: June 12, 2015, 09:00:21 am
Horrible Genre/Horrible Genre obviously. I honestly like Katy Perry's music better than that crap.
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