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101  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Irony Oremine on: September 15, 2016, 12:31:28 am
Your constant blabbering more then likely hurts your candidate then helps.
102  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The idiocy of Stein on display in her Vox interview on: September 15, 2016, 12:30:59 am
You should really be concentrating on the guy who has a better chance of becoming president.

...Who Stein is helping.

Your constant blabbering more then likely hurts your candidate then helps.

LOL. Do you really want to say this after everything you and your buddy jfern have said?
103  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump is obese on: September 15, 2016, 12:29:55 am
1-This doesn't matter.
2-Just about all experts agree now that BMI is a very flawed measurement. Just about all professional bodybuilders would be considered obese under it, for one example.
3-Once again this doesn't matter, no one should pretend it does, and anyone who is pretending it does should be embarrassed of themselves.
104  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: FL/OH- CNN: Trump +3 and +5 on: September 15, 2016, 12:06:49 am
http://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2008/pollsa.php

8 years ago the polls in Florida and Ohio were pretty similar, just FYI.
105  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The idiocy of Stein on display in her Vox interview on: September 15, 2016, 12:01:05 am
In addition to that nonsense Stein displays as much knowledge on what quantitative easing is and how it works as someone who just got a B in a sophomore level Economics course.
106  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Recent bans on: September 14, 2016, 11:32:50 pm
I noticed that Schadenfreude abruptly quit posting after September 2. Was he confirmed to be a Link sock and banned?
107  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / The idiocy of Stein on display in her Vox interview on: September 14, 2016, 10:37:03 pm
http://www.vox.com/2016/9/14/12913174/jill-stein-green-party

The whole thing is pretty much nonsense (as I've said she sounds more like someone running for office in Atlasia than an actual Presidential candidate) but this stood out:

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Jeff Stein

We have 15 minutes left, so I want to move to foreign policy. Donald Trump, obviously, caused quite an uproar when he suggested that America would not enforce its treaty obligations with NATO if Russia did something in Eastern Europe.

Do you think Trump has a point that we need to rethink our commitments to intervene under NATO?

Jill Stein

In terms of NATO, I think NATO has become an end-run around a democratic process for deciding when we engage in foreign wars and when we donít. Weíre using NATO as an excuse ó not only to duck congressional responsibility for approving a war budget, but also NATO is used to duck the UN process and international law that says we cannot go to war unless a nation is specifically threatened and directly threatened.

So for the United States to jump into other peopleís wars, which are highly questionable ó and where we are not at risk ourselves ó I donít think Americans want to be doing that. I think we need to be clear about NATOís role, especially in creating a more dangerous world right now. Where NATO has been surrounding Russia with missiles, nuclear weapons, and troops.

How would we feel if Russia had its troops on our borders? And its missiles and its nuclear weapons? This is not the kind of world we need. It was actually the United States under Bill Clinton that withdrew from the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty ó that is the major framework for nuclear weapons disarmament. And Barack Obama created a whole new nuclear weapons arms race by investing a trillion dollars over the next couple of decades in a whole new generation of nuclear weapons and their modes of delivery.

Jeff Stein

So, if you were president, would you try protecting Eastern Europe from Russian aggression?

Jill Stein

We would ensure that Russian aggression doesnít occur, because we would be engaged in a peace process and in a process that puts dialogue and diplomacy ahead of war.

Jeff Stein

How much do you think America is currently to blame for Russian aggression?

Jill Stein

Well, Russian aggression meaning what, exactly? (References Crimea and Ukraine.) These are highly questionable situations. Why are we ó Russia used to own Ukraine. Ukraine was historically a part of Russia for quite some period of time, and we all know there was this conversation with Victoria Nuland about planning the coup and who was going to take over.

Not that the other guy was some model of democracy. But the one they put in ó with the support of the US and the CIA in this coup in Ukraine ó that has not been a solution.
Regime change is something we need to be very careful about. And this is a highly inflammatory regime change with a nuclear armed power next door.

So Iím saying: Letís just stop pretending there are good guys here and bad guys here. These are complicated situations. Yeah, Russia is doing lots of human rights abuse, but you know what? So are we.

We need to enter into this like human beings and have a conversation about a situation thatís very threatening to us all and sit down and find principled ways to move forward with dialogue and diplomacy that makes us all more stable, more secure, and creates a world for the future thatís not going to go up in flames.
108  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: NV-Monmouth: Trump +2 on: September 14, 2016, 10:17:25 pm
Only took 4 replies until the paternalistic "but muh non-english speaking mexican voters" folks flood the thread.

LMAO

There is no pennsylvania dutch option in the PA polls. Guess we can discredit those as well!

LOLOLOLOL

Current estimated number of Pennsylvania Dutch speakers is about 118k, not all of whom are in Pennsylvania incidentally...but how many of them can speak English poorly or not at all? This is basically a non-sequitur.
109  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: The "Big Four" of thrash on: September 14, 2016, 08:11:44 pm
All are complete and total f[inks]ing garbage. None can I beat to listen to even a full song.
110  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: NV-Monmouth: Trump +2 on: September 14, 2016, 12:11:34 pm
Did they poll in Spanish?
111  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Should we end the War on Drugs? on: September 13, 2016, 08:55:06 am
Obviously, but we certainly shouldn't replace it with a "Yay, drugs are AWESOME!!!" policy.



Oh come on. Surely you're familiar with the kind of discourse that's popular these days among the most hip and kewl sections of the left.

But amongst anyone relevant?

And of course it seems that you don't even want marijuana sold in stores and consider that to be "Yay, drugs are AWESOME!!!"
112  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: MN ballot access still an issue for Trump; Update: case dismissed on: September 12, 2016, 11:51:12 pm
Damn, but the DFLosers have been terrible since they exploited Wellstone's death for political gain.

Yeah if you mean holding every statewide office and having never lost a statewide election in ten years to be terrible...
113  General Politics / Individual Politics / Opinion of Nate Silver on: September 12, 2016, 09:52:05 pm
Absolute trash.
114  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: The 45th President will be a Baby Boomer. on: September 12, 2016, 09:39:54 pm
No Millennials are the BEST generation, hands down.

Weren't you born in Reagan's first term?

Yes, but that still puts me pretty clearly in the Millennial category. I mean, I was in high school when 9/11 happened. And the first Presidential election I was eligible to vote in was also the first Presidential election Lena Dunham was eligible to vote in.

Besides I don't want anything to do with the generally pretty terrible Generation X.
115  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Nate Silver brought to heel by his Republican masters on: September 12, 2016, 03:50:47 pm
Yep he's an official traitor sellout now.
116  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: All African American Readers Must Read This on: September 12, 2016, 12:21:18 pm
LOL@people citing Xahar as an African-American.
117  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Ljube on: September 12, 2016, 08:41:15 am
Well now he's turned to downright vile.
118  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Irony Oremine on: September 12, 2016, 05:42:43 am
For a moderator you shouldn't post such ridiculous nonsense.

You should maybe delete your account.
119  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Jill Stein calls for new 9/11 investigation on: September 11, 2016, 10:24:58 pm
The tribal protesters DID NOT want people like her around committing vandalism. They intended to keep the protests entirely peaceful. Some jackasses from way out of the area showed up and ruined that.

I talked to my mom about this a bit this weekend. The protests are very close to where she lives. Despite being a very conservative area, most people there were sympathetic to the tribal protests especially as they were completely peaceful...the outside people not so much.

How is spray-painting a bulldozer violent? And what exactly is wrong with solidarity?

Vandalism is also something they wanted to avoid. And the "solidarity" wasn't mostly from concerned activists but edgelord douches and in Stein's case a total political opportunist. It's like those douchebags unaffiliated with BLM who blocked an interstate highway in Minneapolis a few weeks ago and vandalized and threw rocks at cars* in "protest" over the Philando Castile shooting.

*of which I'm sure a non-negligible amount were driven by blacks.
120  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Jill Stein calls for new 9/11 investigation on: September 11, 2016, 09:33:04 pm
The tribal protesters DID NOT want people like her around committing vandalism. They intended to keep the protests entirely peaceful. Some jackasses from way out of the area showed up and ruined that.

I talked to my mom about this a bit this weekend. The protests are very close to where she lives. Despite being a very conservative area, most people there were sympathetic to the tribal protests especially as they were completely peaceful...the outside people not so much.
121  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Seriously? Theatre of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts V on: September 11, 2016, 06:47:18 am
She is a robotic, heartless, crooked career criminal who has committed crimes that are unimaginable to comprehend. Her corruption and negligence are unimaginable and everywhere that she went caused death and destruction. She wasn't able to handle classified material and jeopardized our national security in the process. This person should not be allowed to become president and needs to stay far away from ever entering the White House again. What is this woman's appeal and why should she even be elected at this point? I can understand Obama's appeal and why he got elected, but I really need a reason why people like her. (A D next to her name doesn't count.)

I also think that 2024 is the year that the Democrats will win the presidency again and make massive gains in the House and Senate. In fact, it will be a very good year for them after 8 years of Trump's presidency and the U.S. will elect its first female president. In my opinion, the country just isn't ready for a female president yet.
122  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Minneapolis to vote on $15/hour minimum wage on: September 10, 2016, 11:54:32 pm
FWIW the State Supreme Court head an appeal to the case and ruled against putting it up on the ballot. So this won't happen.

To be honest while this is rather disappointing I can't disagree that the City Charter's provisions for referendum doesn't quite cover this.
123  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Ed Schultz on: September 10, 2016, 10:04:18 pm
Traitor
124  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Russia on: September 10, 2016, 08:40:20 pm
There's one aspect of attacks on it though that is just plain mindboggling. In the 60s-80s, a common joke and stereotype about Russian women was how ugly they are. Now even ignoring the awful sexism in all of that....HOW ON EARTH CAN ANYONE THINK THAT?
125  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The CrabCake Bureau of Funny Post Archival on: September 10, 2016, 12:51:40 pm
Like I said in that thread it was basically just a statement of frustration to how everyone outside that window has acted this election season.
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