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101  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Pro-Life People Only: How Should Abortion be Punished? on: January 31, 2016, 07:32:15 pm
Using "It's the present year!" as an argument is pretty silly because there is no inherent set in time date when things become acceptable. They do when they do and people in the future judge times accordingly. So for example someone in 2014 saying "Man it's ridiculous that it's 2014 and gays still can't get married everywhere in the US!" would in 50 years look just as silly as someone saying "I can't believe it's 1963 and we still have racial segregation in the South!" to us today. Now on the other hand if you say something like "Switzerland is so reactionary it didn't grant women the right to vote until 1971!" that's a bit difference, because by 1971 women's suffrage was a completely accepted thing throughout almost all of Europe and other western countries, but someone in Switzerland campaigning for it in 1970 shouldn't have said "Come on, it's 1970!" and instead pointed out Switzerland was the only developed country without women's suffrage.

It also ignores that some issues can go through parabolas of acceptance (of which abortion has been one.) For example today everyone thinks Prohibition is some insane backward policy that the people in the backward time of 1920 might've supported but no one would today. But if you went back to 85 years prior to Prohibition, everyone would've found it just as insane as we do today, and alcohol consumption rates were FAR higher.
102  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Rubio = gay. 100% CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE on: January 31, 2016, 06:22:40 pm
You guys remember that Larry Craig was married? So was Jim McGreevey.
103  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Greetings on: January 31, 2016, 06:02:30 pm
A good chunk of us have picked up and left to a new forum that'd you hate due to the lack of a ban on profanity.

Is that that Atlas After Dark Jamespol keeps Facebook messaging me about?

Yep that's it. Full of many banned Atlas posters ranging from Freedom Fighters like him, jmfcst, mondale84 and Straha to Horrible People like Einzige.
104  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Greetings on: January 31, 2016, 05:56:08 pm
A good chunk of us have picked up and left to a new forum that'd you hate due to the lack of a ban on profanity.
105  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of RFayette's signatures? on: January 31, 2016, 05:51:13 pm
Man remember when afleitch and others said I was going to turn into some sort of crazy fundamentalist? LOL.
106  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Rubio = gay. 100% CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE on: January 31, 2016, 05:48:46 pm
https://twitter.com/JustinRaimondo/status/693498306614288384/photo/1
107  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: How can anyone be sure their religion is correct? on: January 31, 2016, 05:26:51 pm
How things change.
108  General Politics / Individual Politics / Opinion of Israel's alliance with apartheid South Africa on: January 31, 2016, 12:42:34 pm
HA and why I wouldn't have supported Israel even at that time. F[inks] any country that does joint nuclear tests with that state.
109  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Greetings on: January 31, 2016, 12:42:12 am
Just to let you know, even YOU are invited to Atlas After Dark. In the spirit of Christ we do turn the other cheek there and do not reject.
110  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Corporatist warmonger oligarch scum Ron Wyden endorses Hillary on: January 30, 2016, 11:34:34 pm
You guys are aware Hillary opposes TPP right?
111  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The CrabCake Bureau of Funny Post Archival on: January 30, 2016, 06:23:23 pm
Not as bad as the other ironic Republicans, who constantly say ridiculous (and evidently false) statements like "Bush is an electable moderate", "the Republican base would never support universal healthcare", "The future of the GOP is libertarian", "Rubio is presidential and definitely hetero" etc. merely to get a rise out of people. I mean, jeez, drop the act already.
112  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: What musical artists will be remembered in 85 years? on: January 30, 2016, 04:46:04 pm
insane clown posse, obv

f---ing magnets, how do they work

You were only in second or third grade when that was a thing.
113  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: What musical artists will be remembered in 85 years? on: January 30, 2016, 04:27:04 pm
Minor Threat
Jawbreaker

Oh, stop it. I've never even heard of the latter band.

And I've never heard of Robert Johnson and the only reason I knew about that David Bowie guy everyone was talking about a few weeks ago is he once appeared on a Family Guy episode.

Jawbreaker is probably the most influential "post-punk indie melodic scenecore" band of the 90s.
114  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: What musical artists will be remembered in 85 years? on: January 30, 2016, 04:18:07 pm
Minor Threat
Jawbreaker
115  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of ironic TRUMP supporters? on: January 30, 2016, 02:43:14 pm
BRTD, none of that long post of yours celebrating schadenfreude for the sufferings of the Pub establishment has anything to do with the issue of the performance art act of Lief and Co. ironic Trump supporters on this Forum now does it? And then there is always that risk, however small, that Trump actually does get elected President. If the company you work for does much in the way of exports to Asia, you might be out of a job - for starters.

It doesn't, but I do plan on getting another job by the end of the year anyway.
116  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of ironic TRUMP supporters? on: January 30, 2016, 01:21:52 pm
I've said this before (and dead0man always ignores it), but here's something many miss: It is possible to think Trump is a Horrible Person and yet still enjoy the nightmare he's causing for the Republicans. The Republican establishment are not a group of people I would ever be able to muster any sympathy for, even if I was more conservative. Similarly it's hard for me to think "Oh poor Jeb/Christie/Rubio having their possible nomination stolen by this lunatic"

There are people here who seem to think that politics is like a sports game, and that you should respect the "other team" and not get gleeful about things like injuries or whatnot. That's simply not the case. Come February 8, there will be no real impact on the world based on whoever won the Super Bowl. Some people will be very happy, some people will be very dissapointed. They'll all go on with their lives. That's not true about November 9. Similarly ridiculous is the idea that the "mainstream" Republican candidates are good respectable people and even Democrats should show view them as respectable opponents, unlike Trump. Not only has that way of thinking not been the case the last couple elections, it never has been.

Trump poses a severe threat to a group of people with zero moral standing, and zero interest or concern about anyone other than themselves and a small elite. You can say the same is true for Trump himself who cares about nothing but inflating his ego and getting attention. That's probably true. But I'm not going to mourn something that only hurts a bunch of also Horrible People, likely increases the Democrats' chances of victory, and creates a far more entertaining election. The chickens are coming home to roost, and I don't think any Democrats have an "obligation" to somehow try to prevent this, or at least not cheer it on.
117  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Could cocaine and khat be legalized in another 50 years? on: January 30, 2016, 01:10:50 pm
Speaking as someone who has actually legally purchased marijuana, let me explain how it actually works. I was initially thinking that a dispensary would be like a liquor store only with marijuana, but that is not the case at all:

-When you enter the shop you're in nothing but a lobby. There's a receptionist behind a glass wall who checks your ID and asks you recreational or medical. There are two rooms with doors labeled as such behind you. You're then asked to have seat, similar to a doctor's office.

-Once it's your turn, someone comes up and calls our name to let you in. By law the customer:staff ratio in the room can not be higher than 1:1.

-All product is kept behind the counter. You have to ask the clerk to hand you anything. No "free samples", no lines and lines of dimebags like liquor bottles.

It's far closer to a pharmacy than a liquor store (or what people think of as a head shop.)
118  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Could cocaine and khat be legalized in another 50 years? on: January 30, 2016, 01:07:04 pm
I think I share Tony's dislike of the idea of the equivalent of Big Tobacco forming but around hard drugs. Nobody wants Joe Camel brand cocaine.

Are you familiar with the Washington and Colorado markets? Most of the stores function as more similar to farmer's markets or consignment shops. They get their product from small growers, and there is no megacorporations involved or marketing.

Also Tony you really need to think of the demographics of who is most likely to use marijuana with your suggestion people just "grow their own". You think college dorms are going to allow college students to set up growing spaces? Or that it's easy for hipsters who live in small cramped apartments?
119  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Could cocaine and khat be legalized in another 50 years? on: January 29, 2016, 01:19:39 pm
LOL@Tony.

Don't you actually oppose legalize even MARIJUANA?

I'm fine with personal consumption and (obviously) medical use. I don't think it should be sold for profit. For the record, I'd say the same about cigarettes.

So basically you want it to be legal to buy and use but have the only way to buy it via an illegal black market?
120  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Could cocaine and khat be legalized in another 50 years? on: January 29, 2016, 08:03:52 am
LOL@Tony.

Don't you actually oppose legalize even MARIJUANA?
121  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Bobloblaw Theatre of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts V on: January 29, 2016, 07:58:30 am
This is, without question, the single dumbest description of a politician's ideology in Atlas history:

Bloomberg is to the right of Hillary on some economic issues.

Bloomberg is a libertarian-leaning Democrat.
122  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What does Michael Bloomberg disagree with Hillary on? on: January 29, 2016, 07:55:38 am
...

Someone just described Bloomberg as "libertarian-leaning". WHAT. THE. F[INKS].
123  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Stop deleting post-debate polls that include ALL the candidates you cowards. on: January 29, 2016, 12:15:40 am
x BRTD
124  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: Why is Iowa a blue state? on: January 28, 2016, 06:46:54 pm
I want to visit Iowa.  The eastern part seems charming and probably has a great nightlife.  Could probably get there on the cheap, as well.

BRTD, what Iowa city would you recommend for a long weekend getaway?  (Thurs night-Mon)

Iowa City is of course the biggest partying city in Iowa. It's also very close to Cedar Rapids so you can hit up two. Iowa is also full of casinos so you could see if any of those are around.
125  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: Why is Iowa a blue state? on: January 28, 2016, 04:48:42 pm
All of those places you mentioned in Illinois DO vote Democratic except Bloomington.
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