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60976  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Gale Norton resigns on: March 10, 2006, 01:54:24 pm
Like a rat fleeing a sinking ship.
60977  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / opebo vs. Dan on: March 10, 2006, 01:23:13 pm
opebo vs. Dan
60978  General Politics / Political Debate / Michael Moore and Ann Coulter on: March 10, 2006, 01:21:35 pm
No, and I don't see how anyone can argue they are.

Moore produces films that are somewhat misleading and overtly partisan. He's just a typical political hack.

Coulter has praised terrorists, has said that she would be happy if the editorial staff of a newspaper she dislikes would be murdered and said John Walker Lindh should be executed to send a message to young liberals that they can be killed too (not that I see the similarities between liberalism and Islamic fundamentalism that she's implying are there, but oh well, logic was never her strong suit)

A much better equivalent to Michael Moore would be Rush Limbaugh. Coulter's equivalent is more like Ward Churchill or maybe Ted Rall.
60979  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Would you support this? on: March 10, 2006, 12:58:15 pm
No, but I wouldn't pretend that the views of a few people on the extreme religious fringe are representative of everyone on the religious right either.

Focus on the Family is not the fringe of the religious right, they are mainstream in the movement.

If you have a narrow view of what constitutes the religious right, sure.

Not quite. I can't think of any religious right type groups that are like them. What would you consider religious right that are nothing like them, or people like Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson?

What I would consider the fringe of the religious right is someone like Gary North, who has said that the death penalty should be imposed for homosexuality, and that if a teenage girl has an abortion with her parents' permission, she should be executed, the doctor who performed it should be executed and both her parents should be executed.
60980  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Would you support this? on: March 10, 2006, 12:50:23 pm
No, but I wouldn't pretend that the views of a few people on the extreme religious fringe are representative of everyone on the religious right either.

Focus on the Family is not the fringe of the religious right, they are mainstream in the movement.
60981  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Re: Clay/opebo vs. GWBFan/blue opebo on: March 10, 2006, 12:37:56 pm
Why does everyone think option 2 would win? Clay is moderate, GWBFan was pretty far right.

The VP also has a lot to do with it.

blue opebo was no more mainstream than he is today.
60982  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Re: Clay/opebo vs. GWBFan/blue opebo on: March 10, 2006, 11:38:35 am
Why does everyone think option 2 would win? Clay is moderate, GWBFan was pretty far right.
60983  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: 58% of Americans oppose South Dakota abortion law on: March 10, 2006, 11:31:28 am
Except all the laws being proposed in other states are similar to it.

This also severely rebukes people who claim the Democrats are not in the mainstream on this issue and should adopt a position similar to the SD law.
60984  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / 58% of Americans oppose South Dakota abortion law on: March 10, 2006, 11:26:03 am
Not even a majority of Republicans support it:



This just shows that they are NOT in the mainstream on this issue.
60985  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Does Bush deserve his current crap ratings? on: March 10, 2006, 11:24:06 am
wow this forum is quite anti-Bush.
60986  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Can you be a liberal if you live in a McMansion? on: March 10, 2006, 11:18:08 am
I don't think he's making that much. He probably lives on about the same level I do in the US. He could probably live much more comfortably if he saved all his money, but we know what he does half the year in Thailand. Of course, I would most certainly live on my level than in a McMansion, so I say he's doing the right thing.
60987  General Politics / International General Discussion / Dublin Archdiosese admits more than 100 of its priests are pedophiles on: March 10, 2006, 01:26:44 am
TheAge article

Gee, what a surprise. Not. Roll Eyes
60988  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Day 47: Denmark on: March 10, 2006, 12:39:51 am
Freedom Fighters!
60989  General Politics / International General Discussion / Day 47: Denmark on: March 10, 2006, 12:39:09 am
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/da.html

Discuss.
60990  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: How on the Forum is your kind of liberal? on: March 10, 2006, 12:20:41 am
Why are all these people saying nclib always trashing people like me and jfern and who are almost identical ideologically?
60991  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Clay/opebo vs. GWBFan/blue opebo on: March 09, 2006, 11:56:32 pm
Clay/opebo vs. GWBFan/blue opebo
60992  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Israel and national security on: March 09, 2006, 01:55:02 pm
OK, let's say those Molodet guys someonw win control of the Israeli government. They decide to carry out their plans for a greater Israel by first seizing the Palestinean territories and ethnically cleansing them, and carry out a genocide of all the Palestineans living there. Then they start carrying out wars of agression against neighboring countries. Is it wrong to oppose Israel then? Does God only support genocide and imperalism when Israel is doing it? Does God also demand that nations unconditionally support Israel even when they stab us in the back and steal our military secrets?

I also bet the Christian Palestinean population doesn't share your view either.
60993  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Does Bush deserve his current crap ratings? on: March 09, 2006, 01:52:23 pm
I'm sure you can all guess my answer...
60994  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: State legislatures on: March 09, 2006, 01:46:30 pm
Minnesota House has a razor thin GOP majority. They'll probably narrowly keep it unofrtunately, due to the fact the GOP lost almost all of their extremely vulnerable House seats in 2004. Still the DFL did pull of some rather impressive scalps no one expecting then, including the #3 House Republican, so I wouldn't rule anything out.

Senate has a bit stronger DFL majority. It would take an absolutely perfect storm for the GOP to take it. To pick up a few seats would be possible, but thinks aren't looking good for the GOP in November, so I doubt it.
60995  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: TX-28 primary on: March 09, 2006, 01:38:57 pm
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The point is this guy endorsed Bush both times, and so is not a real Democrat.

An interesting statement. There seem to two ways of looking at it; first, that to be a Real Democrat TM you have to endorse every single Democrat running for election. As such I'm sure that a certain CT Senator can count on your support.
...and if that's not the case, then you've just admitted that being Anti Bush is all that matters to the Democratic Party. Which would be a pathetic thing to admit, wouldn't it?

It's not too much to expect Democratic office holders to support their party's main nominee. After all, no one would defend Zell Miller now. If someone is ideologically closer to Bush than Gore or Kerry, they're not much of a Democrat are they?

As for Lieberman, jfern isn't supporting his Republican opponent, he is like, me supporting his Democratic primary challenger, a big difference. Plus neither I or jfern are Democratic office holders.
60996  General Politics / Individual Politics / Opinion of Robert McNamara on: March 09, 2006, 01:36:41 pm
Easily one of the most horrible people ever to be in the government. Horrible, horrible, horrible person.
60997  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Day 46: Czech Republic on: March 09, 2006, 12:23:10 am
An interesting country, in that it contains, to my knowledge, the largest percentage of citizens in the world who are not affiliated with any of the major religions of the world.

There's another reason for you to like it opebo.
60998  General Politics / International General Discussion / Day 46: Czech Republic on: March 09, 2006, 12:16:33 am
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ez.html
60999  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: WA: Former Black Panther to Challenge Maria Cantwell on: March 09, 2006, 12:12:12 am
Let's see, a former black panther in a state that's only 3.2% black. And 5% is his ceiling? Uh, no. Look much much lower.
61000  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Israel and national security on: March 09, 2006, 12:05:46 am
Not neccesarily it, but the way the US bows over to Israel's every demand and completely ignores Israel doing things like stealing classified military technology is definitely is part of it. Imagine if France had done half the stuff Israel had in espionage against the US.
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