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1  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Dems: Do you wish Hillary had decided not to run? on: Today at 09:21:24 am
Who exactly could they have run who is younger with less baggage but already nationally known and well-respected?

Why is already being nationally known a prerequisite for running for president?  The Democratic Party has nominated plenty of people for president who weren't that well known nationally before they ran.
2  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: With which nickname will TRUMP come up for Kaine? on: Today at 08:37:42 am
Kaine and Unable.

Kaine Unable is catchier.
3  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: With which nickname will TRUMP come up for Kaine? on: Today at 07:40:56 am
Tiny Tim
4  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Plane with 239 people on board crashes in Southern Indian Ocean on: Today at 07:05:27 am
*bump*

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/22/asia/mh370-pilot-simulation/index.html

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An FBI forensic examination shows the pilot of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 conducted a flight simulation on his home computer that closely matched the suspected route of the missing Boeing 777 in the southern Indian Ocean, according to a Malaysian government document obtained by New York magazine.
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According to the magazine, citing the document, the FBI analyzed hard drives from a flight simulator Zaharie had built using Microsoft Flight Simulator X software. The FBI was able to recover data points from the program that pointed to the southern Indian Ocean.

The document is quoted as saying the simulated flight was made less than a month before MH370 went missing in March 2014.
5  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: BREAKING: Major terror attack/shooting in Munich on: Today at 06:22:12 am
Yeah, radical Islam of the sort that leads to random people getting killed is pretty much exclusively Sunni and Iranians are mainly Shia.

Ftr, the 2014 Sydney Lindt Cafe gunman was an Iranian convert to Sunni Islam who pledged loyalty to IS.  Of course, like many of these guys, he had some serious mental problems, and probably latched onto whatever ideology proved the best outlet for his paranoia.
6  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Kaine vs. Pence VP debate discussion thread on: Today at 03:44:14 am
Two boring white men.

Out of curiosity, is the "boring" part linked to the "white man" part?  If Clinton had picked Amy Klobuchar, would people call Klobuchar boring, or would the fact that she's a woman inherently make her an interesting veep prospect?
7  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: In this thread, we post r/S4P reactions to tonight's news on: Today at 03:39:11 am
I see that the Democratic National Convention's FB page has some fun Sanders voters in the comments:

https://www.facebook.com/demconvention/
8  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: Who will be President in 2024? on: July 22, 2016, 11:41:08 pm
Clinton's probably the most likely, since she's favored to win this year, and at least has a shot at winning reelection.  But it could be any number of people.
9  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump Would Fund Super PACs to Defeat Cruz, Kasich on: July 22, 2016, 11:36:46 pm
Shame on them. And shame on Ted Cruz for giving that terrible convention speech. He pissed away his career with that one.

Here's my idea for how Cruz can recover from this: He should accuse Trump of lying us into war with Iraq and call for him to be impeached.  That's apparently the formula for winning the Republican nomination for president these days.
10  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Jeb Bush to Endorse Gary Johnson Next Week? on: July 22, 2016, 10:16:50 pm
I'll still say that the biggest determining factor in how much of the vote Johnson gets is how much media attention he manages to get.  People will actually have to be aware of his existence in order for him to get votes.  So sure, getting an endorsement from someone like Bush helps on the margins simply because it makes the media more likely to cover him.  Not just a factor for people who like Bush, but for anyone who's going to see that additional increment of media coverage due to this.

But that assumes that this is actually true.  Why are people taking a tweet from Travis Akers seriously?
11  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Clinton picks Kaine for veep on: July 22, 2016, 07:34:03 pm
Well, that was almost as inevitable as Hillary's nomination.

I've been saying Clinton/Kaine since November 2014, lol. Before that I thought Clinton/Warner. Tongue

IceSpear flashback:

Why pick Kaine when you have Warner who is better in every way?
12  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Kaine to "pre-endorse" Hillary Clinton…..a shameless bid for VP consideration? on: July 22, 2016, 07:31:42 pm
*bump*

I guess this worked!
13  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: Will we ever have a president born in the 1950's? on: July 22, 2016, 07:25:25 pm
*bump*

Both Kaine and Pence were born in the 50s, so I guess the chances of this happening slightly increased in the past 8 days.
14  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Clinton VP news LATEST: Podesta now calling the losers to tell them its not them on: July 22, 2016, 07:14:22 pm
Locking this thread in a minute.  Please redirect discussion here:

http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=241455.0
15  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Clinton picks Kaine for veep on: July 22, 2016, 07:10:11 pm
Just reported on CNN.
16  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Clinton VP news LATEST: Podesta now calling the losers to tell them its not them on: July 22, 2016, 06:55:55 pm
From clintonkaine.com :

http://www.clintonkaine.com


17  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Clinton VP news LATEST: NYT: Kaine's the frontrunner; announcement Fri afternoon on: July 22, 2016, 09:05:11 am
I bet the text won't say a name, and but will have a link to a video where she announces the name.

I'm hoping she gives clues for how to find the running mate in Pokemon Go.
18  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Clinton VP news LATEST: NYT: Kaine's the frontrunner; announcement Fri afternoon on: July 22, 2016, 08:28:04 am

That just says people *think* it's going to be Kaine.  Nothing new.  Same as the NYT story.
19  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Clinton VP news LATEST: NYT: Kaine's the frontrunner; announcement Fri afternoon on: July 22, 2016, 08:24:34 am
The WSJ says it's Kaine.

It says "according to internal DEM sources close to Hillary's selection process."

Whatever this means ...

What says that?  Can you give the URL of what you're talking about?
20  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Clinton VP news LATEST: NYT: Kaine's the frontrunner; announcement Fri afternoon on: July 22, 2016, 08:22:16 am
The WSJ says it's Kaine.

Oh really?  Link?
21  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Clinton VP news LATEST: NYT: Kaine's the frontrunner; announcement Fri afternoon on: July 22, 2016, 08:19:48 am
I love how we are less than 12 hours away from this, and still no leaks as to who it is.  Great job on Hillary and her team.

Do we know if she's actually made the offer yet though?  As I said the other day, it's not that hard to keep it a secret before you've made the offer.
22  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Clinton VP news LATEST: NYT: Kaine's the frontrunner; announcement Fri afternoon on: July 22, 2016, 06:59:26 am
So, looks like this is her schedule for Friday and Saturday?

https://www.willhillarywin.com/hillary-clintons-events/

Friday: Orlando, FL roundtable, 1:15-3:00pm
Friday: Tampa, FL rally, 4:30-6:30pm
Saturday: Miami, FL rally, 12:00-2:00pm
23  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Which current/past GOP presidential nominees will speak at a future RNC? on: July 22, 2016, 05:51:25 am
I’m assuming Bush 41 and Bob Dole are too old to ever speak at an RNC again.  However, any of the other four could do it.  The question is whether they’d be invited to speak by any nominee from 2020 or beyond, and whether they’d accept the invitation.
24  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: latest Betfair odds on: July 22, 2016, 03:24:12 am
Kaine well over 80 now to be the VP nominee.

Winning Individual
Clinton 70.9
Trump 28.2
Sanders 0.6
Johnson 0.3

Dem presidential nominee
Clinton 99.0
Sanders 1.0

Dem VP nominee
Kaine 87.7
Vilsack 11.6
Perez 5.3
Warren 2.6
25  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: The “Who is running in 2020?” tea leaves thread on: July 22, 2016, 02:31:49 am
LA Times on the 2020 politicking in Cleveland this week:

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-republicans-2020-hopefuls-20160722-snap-story.html

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John Kasich, the popular Ohio governor, waged what at times resembled a shadow convention  with a packed schedule of daily events — none of which were held near the Quicken Loans Arena stage where the official convention took place.

Kasich greeted New Hampshire delegates, was feted at a party at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and spoke about policy at events with the International Republican Institute and the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce.

Romney’s 2012 running mate, House Speaker Paul D. Ryan of Wisconsin, had little choice but to share the spotlight with Trump, announcing the roll call vote that handed the businessman the nomination. But Ryan also found time for several other events that showcased his claim to be the candidate of new ideas.  

Veteran campaign-trail warriors Rick Santorum, Mike Huckabee and Newt Gingrich made the rounds — Gingrich on a boat tour with supporters.

“If you’re looking for the perfect candidate, go home, read your Bible and practice your faith and wait for the second coming,” Santorum told Iowans. “Because it isn’t going to happen until then.”

Other up-and-comers, including South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, Iowa Sen. Joni Ernst  and Arkansas Sen. Tom Cotton, let it be known they were in town. Cotton kept up one of the busiest schedules of breakfasts, including a  60-mile trek to Sandusky to meet with the California delegation, which otherwise got few prominent visitors.

Asked directly if he was considering running, Cotton laughed: “No. Right now I’m thinking about making sure Republicans win across the country.”
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