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1  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: How would a battle b/n Castro, Booker, (and a 3rd candidate) play out? on: January 22, 2017, 11:26:33 pm
The racial breakdown on PPP's latest national poll of Dems and Dem-leaners had the nationwide breakdown of such voters as:

white 57%
black 22%
Hispanic 14%
other 7%

Does that match up with the distribution of voters who actually vote in Democratic primaries?  I suppose you could work it out by looking at exit polls across all states, but I'm wondering if anyone has bothered to do that much work.
2  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump Cabinet confirmation hearings **live commentary thread** on: January 22, 2017, 11:28:04 am
Graham also says he'll vote to confirm Tillerson:

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/mccain-tillerson-senate-confirm-233989

Rubio still hasn't announced his decision.
3  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump to meet with Theresa May on Friday on: January 22, 2017, 10:34:49 am
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-38710697

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Theresa May says she "won't be afraid" to tell Donald Trump if he says or does anything she feels is "unacceptable".

The two will hold talks in the White House on Friday on issues such as trade and security, with the PM being one of the first foreign leaders to meet the US president since he took office.

The "special relationship" between the two countries will enable her to raise difficult matters, she told the BBC.

The PM insisted she had a "strong track record" of defending women's rights.
4  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump Cabinet confirmation hearings **live commentary thread** on: January 22, 2017, 10:19:20 am
McCain says he'll vote to confirm Tillerson:

https://twitter.com/ThisWeekABC/status/823179101796081665
5  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The “Who is running in 2020?” tea leaves thread on: January 22, 2017, 10:14:59 am
Sunday morning talk show watch: Sanders is on Face the Nation this morning:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_NEWS_SHOWS?SITE=AP
6  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump to meet with Theresa May on Friday on: January 22, 2017, 01:09:30 am
Ah, and look what meeting is coming up a few days later:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mexico-politics-idUSKBN1550R0
7  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of having sex on: January 21, 2017, 10:57:51 pm
You forgot these two options:

(Winfield’s option) This thread is disgusting, and should be reported for using the word “sex”

(Reaganfan's option) Some people would answer that it depends on the type of sex you’re having.  Is premarital sex a big enough social problem that it needs to be addressed by the popular culture?  And will Hollywood inevitably push children into having more sex with today’s entertainment?

It wasn’t always like this.  Conservatism wasn't always at liberal expense. You would have sitcoms that would air "Very Special Episodes" about the dangers of drugs, drinking and other pressing social issues without resorting to liberalism. Hell, even I myself, born in 1988, remember watching "Just Say No" VHS tapes in grade school a decade after they were made, with Ronald and Nancy Reagan telling kids to say no to drugs and terrifying PSA commercials aired during my Saturday Morning cartoons featuring the dangers of drug use. You remember the PSAs. "Hey Tommy, look what I've got..." as a child held a handful of small white rolled joints with sinister music in the background. Talk about ruining your Saturday bowl of Fruit Loops.

Skip forward nearly 30 years and you now have children watching prime time television shows that glorify drug use. You even have some Americans voting to legalize it. In many ways, it is a victory of liberalism and a nightmare for traditional Americans.

When my mother was in high school, she was one of the so-called "popular" girls in school, and even dated a star football player.  I don’t actually know how much sex she was having, but it did not detract from her education.  She knew about the world around her, in a way that students of the present day do not.  She knew who Reagan and Bush were, and even what the Soviet Union and Communism were.  She knew of television programs such as The Dukes of Hazard and Dallas.  Does the present generation even know why we celebrate the 4th of July, or who shot J.R.?



Now, some would say that I’m not even addressing sexual activity among people of the same gender.  Does that make me homophobic?  When I was in school, a student once said "I think homosexuality is wrong."  Today, that student would be punished severely.  They would be suspended from school, and forced into sensitivity training.  But I ask you, was that student a homophobe?  Am I a homophobe because I want to date women rather than men?  Am I a racist because I don't like rap music?  By today's multi-racial, hyper-progressive standards, I might in fact be considered racist.  But by the standards of the 20th century, I would not be.  How could I have been racist when I was watching the Cosby Show?



Now, to conclude on the subject of whether sexual activity is positive or not, I would like to highlight a crucial moment from “Family Ties”.  Alex is talking about finding a girl to date and telling his mother that he was going to have to "pick a date off the girl tree." Despondent, she said, "ALEX! The girl tree?" to which he sarcastically replied, "Oh...sorry mom. The woman tree." Again, there was no claim of a fictional "War on Women" or any outcry. In fact, one could claim that the audience, which by the way included the President of the United States, would applaud Alex P. Keaton's sarcastic tone against his liberal mother.



And so one can only conclude that if sexual activity is conducted according to the heartland values of an Alex P. Keaton, between an 80s man and an American woman with big hair, then it may be a freedom activity.  However, if it’s conducted according to the values of the “War on Women” feminists, then it’s a horrible activity.  I still see a country where the former is possible.  I still see a country I love.



Anyway, that’s what I think Winfield and Naso would say, respectively.
8  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump to meet with Theresa May on Friday on: January 21, 2017, 10:06:00 pm
Can only imagine what the meetings would be like between Trump and Corbyn if the latter actually manages to become PM while Trump is president.
9  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The “Who is running in 2020?” tea leaves thread on: January 21, 2017, 09:59:14 pm
Booker: “I am not open to being president”:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/21/politics/cory-booker-president-2020/

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New Jersey Democratic Sen. Cory Booker said Saturday he is not planning to run for president in 2020, telling CNN's Brooke Baldwin he wants to instead focus on running an effective opposition to the Trump administration.

"Too many things can happen that can hurt people in our nation and around the globe if this President isn't checked," Booker told Baldwin, speaking at the Women's March in Washington. "Right now, I don't care about 2020. I don't care about 2018."
      
"I am not open to being president," he added. "I don't even want to have the discussion right now."

And he continues to have a facial expression indicating that he's either worried or needs to use the bathroom quickly:


10  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Trump to meet with Theresa May on Friday on: January 21, 2017, 08:50:41 pm
She'll be the first foreign head of government to meet with Trump since his inauguration:

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-38707524
11  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Counties where Stein won 3rd place? on: January 21, 2017, 08:32:45 pm
Here's the 3rd place map:

Based on incomplete results, since we're still getting stuff dumped



Ah, Utah and Idaho, you are saving the map Smiley
12  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / MOVED: is michael scott a hero or an anti-hero on: January 21, 2017, 08:23:39 pm
This topic has been moved to Off-topic Board.

http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=256996.0
13  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / MOVED: Projected 2024 Electoral Vote Allocation on: January 21, 2017, 07:46:53 pm
This topic has been moved to Presidential Election Trends.

http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=256991.0
14  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: NJ law would require tax returns in order to appear on ballot for President on: January 21, 2017, 05:41:56 pm
It isn't just New Jersey.  There are bills like this in several other Democratic states:

http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=255913.0
15  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Cory Booker is more analogous to Hillary than he is to Obama on: January 21, 2017, 03:35:12 pm
Hillary 2016 was basically Obama 2008 plus a few of her original states. So I don't see what your point is, because both paths are probably what would take Booker to the nomination anyways, especially if he can consolidate the South.

His point is that while Obama 2008 and Clinton 2016 both won blacks, Booker is more likely to get the non-black voters Clinton 2016 appealed to than the non-black voters Obama 2008 appealed to.
16  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Institute of Funny Partial Thread Titles You've Seen on Atlas on: January 21, 2017, 03:29:49 pm
Today at 03:27:42 pm
in Cory Booker is more anal...
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17  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Your top 5 most likely people to be president four years from today on: January 21, 2017, 02:43:15 pm
Rank from #1 to #5 who are the most likely people to be POTUS four years from today.
18  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Process / Re: order of succession loophole? on: January 21, 2017, 02:32:22 pm
So yes, if Trump, Pence, Ryan, & Hatch all dropped dead today, Shannon would become Acting President. However, b/c of the "bumping" provision of the Presidential Succession Act of 1947, Shannon (as a cabinet officer) could serve as Acting President only until a new Speaker of the House or a new President pro tempore of the Senate is chosen (whichever's first), who'd then become Acting President &, under the 1947 Act, would be able to "act as President until the expiration of the then current Presidential term" on January 20, 2021.

Ah, OK, and the House can elect anyone they want as Speaker, even if they're not members of the House, isn't that right?  So in this case, the House Republican caucus could simply agree amongst themselves that they want Marco Rubio to be president, they elect him Speaker, and he becomes acting president until the end of Trump's term?

On a related note, am I remembering correctly that there's even some kind of order of succession for Speaker of the House?  I seem to remember reading years ago that Hastert had a designated successor who would take over as acting Speaker were he to die, but maybe I'm remembering that wrong.
19  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Process / Re: order of succession loophole? on: January 21, 2017, 01:19:08 pm
*bump*

This is quasi-relevant again, now that we don't have a Secretary of State.  Tom Shannon is currently the "acting" Secretary of State.  So is he in the order of succession or not?  If Trump, Pence, Ryan, and Hatch all dropped dead today, would Shannon become president?  Or does it skip over him to whichever is the first Cabinet secretary who isn't "acting" (which in this case would be Mattis)?
20  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Seth MacFarlane on: January 21, 2017, 11:29:08 am
Since he's a voice actor, he should run as a cartoon character:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Waldo_Moment


21  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The “Who is running in 2020?” tea leaves thread on: January 21, 2017, 11:17:03 am

One piece of info in there that I didn't know: Like Gillibrand, Harris will also be participating in the Women's March on Washington today.


Doesn't look like Klobuchar is participating in the march herself, but she did stop to meet with some of the marchers:


22  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Which candidate would do the best with black voters in the Democratic primary? on: January 21, 2017, 11:05:20 am
For fun, a couple of the exit polls from 2004, the last Dem. primary campaign in which no one candidate was dominating among blacks:

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/primaries/pages/epolls/MO/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/primaries/pages/epolls/SC/index.html
23  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The “Who is running in 2020?” tea leaves thread on: January 21, 2017, 10:12:36 am
The WaPo has a story on the 2020 Dems in the Senate:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/standing-behind-trump-on-friday-the-future-of-the-democratic-party/2017/01/20/80a4e04e-de94-11e6-ad42-f3375f271c9c_story.html?utm_term=.739f151fafe6

One piece of info in there that I didn't know: Like Gillibrand, Harris will also be participating in the Women's March on Washington today.
24  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / MOVED: 2032 Vice President Ted Cruz is elected president on: January 20, 2017, 10:49:06 pm
This topic has been moved to Presidential Election Trends.

http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=256905.0
25  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: 2020ers voting on Trump Cabinet confirmations megathread on: January 20, 2017, 06:13:34 pm
Mattis was confirmed by the Senate 98-1, and Gillibrand was the sole no vote:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/01/20/senate-confirms-first-trump-cabinet-pick-defense-secretary-james-mattis/96841458/
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