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1  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The 2016 presidential field on Cuba on: Today at 02:06:08 pm
Paul breaks with the other Republican candidates:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/paul-trade-cuba-good-idea-27691959

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Paul said in a radio interview with Tom Roten of News Talk 800 WVHU in Huntington, West Virginia, that many younger Cuban Americans support opening up trade with Cuba. He also said many U.S. farmers would back Obama's moves because the country is a new market for their crops.

"The 50-year embargo just hasn't worked," Paul said. "If the goal is regime change, it sure doesn't seem to be working and probably it punishes the people more than the regime because the regime can blame the embargo for hardship.

"In the end, I think opening up Cuba is probably a good idea," he said.
2  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The 2016 presidential field on Cuba on: Today at 01:41:24 pm
http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-12-18/hillary-clinton-secretly-pushed-cuba-deal-for-years

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Although President Barack Obama is taking the credit for Wednesday’s historic deal to reverse decades of U.S. policy toward Cuba, when Hillary Clinton was secretary of state, she was the main architect of the new policy and pushed far harder for a deal than the Obama White House.

From 2009 until her departure in early 2013, Clinton and her top aides took the lead on the sometimes public, often private interactions with the Cuban government. According to current and former White House and State Department officials and several Cuba policy experts who were involved in the discussions, Clinton was also the top advocate inside the government for ending travel and trade restrictions on Cuba and reversing 50 years of U.S. policy to isolate the Communist island nation. Repeatedly, she pressed the White House to move faster and faced opposition from cautious high-ranking White House officials.
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Clinton’s advocacy on behalf of opening a new relationship with Cuba began almost as soon as she came into office. Obama had campaigned on a promise to engage enemies, but the White House initially was slow to make good on that pledge, and on the Cuba front enacted only a modest relaxation of travel rules. From the start, Clinton pushed to hold Obama to his promise with regard to Cuba.
3  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The "Who is running?" tea leaves thread on: Today at 12:05:41 pm
Rubio reiterates that Bush running would not deter him from running himself:

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/marco-rubio-insists-jeb-bush-affect-2016-timetable/story?id=27667129

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“If you decide to run for President you do so because you want to be President, not you want to be president unless someone else wants to be president first,” Rubio said. “I want to make my decision on the basis of where’s the best place for me to achieve our agenda to restore the American dream and that’s a decision we’re going to make.”

Sen. Rubio said Bush's plans do not affect his timetable of making his decision of whether he will throw his hat into the 2016 ring.

Rubio added, "We'll make a decision in due course."
4  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: UPDATE-OPOLY on: Today at 10:48:23 am
King could always offer the 4th of July to Oakvale in exchange for a large infusion of cash, with the longshot hope of surviving long enough to recoup enough $ to put some credit cards on the green properties.  It probably won't work, but it's better than nothing.
5  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The "Who is running?" tea leaves thread on: Today at 09:21:53 am
Jeb Bush is resigning from his paid role as an advisor to the British bank Barclays:

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/12/jeb-bush-barclays-113670.html?hp=l6_4
6  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: KY Sen. Maj. Leader wants law to allow Paul to run for prez & senate @ same time on: Today at 09:20:16 am
*bump*

Grimes is threatening to take Paul to court if he tries to run for both offices at once:

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/12/alison-lundergan-grimes-rand-paul-cant-run-for-president-and-senate-113662.html?ml=po
7  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The "Who is running?" tea leaves thread on: Today at 09:16:06 am
Christie says he'll discuss his presidential ambitions with his family over the holidays:

http://www.chron.com/news/article/Christie-says-he-ll-discuss-2016-with-family-over-5963806.php

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Republican New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie says he'll discuss his potential 2016 presidential bid with his family over the holidays and make a decision soon after.

Christie made the comments Wednesday to a group of students at Mendham Township Middle School, one of the state's 2014 National Blue Ribbon Award winners. He says he wants to talk about the issue when his oldest children are both home from college.

Christie says he'll likely make his decision early next year.
8  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Does Rubio running make the lifting of the Cuba embargo/travel ban more likely? on: December 17, 2014, 11:44:35 pm
*bump*

This thread is an interesting blast from the past.
9  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama to announce sweeping changes in Cuba policy today! on: December 17, 2014, 11:40:49 pm
A repeal of the travel ban actually passed the GOP-controlled House back in 2001, among other times:

link

It also passed the GOP-controlled Senate in 2003, but it always dies in committee.  Repeal of both the travel ban and trade embargo have gotten a significant minority of GOP support in years past (many members from districts that would benefit from increased trade with Cuba.  Jeff Flake was a big supporter of lifting the travel ban when he was in the House.

However, now that it's Obama pushing the easing of such restrictions, the Congressional GOP will presumably have a much bigger problem with this.
10  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What will be a higher number? on: December 17, 2014, 11:25:49 pm
For reference, the first "real" debate in 2008 had 7 people on stage.

Actually, it had 10:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_presidential_debates,_2008#Attendance

Days of Christmas, for sure. 2012 Republican debates never exceeded 9 people.

Not true.  Like I said, several of the 2007/2008 debates had 10 people.  I don't think they've ever gone higher than that.
11  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama to announce sweeping changes in Cuba policy today! on: December 17, 2014, 05:56:56 pm
Does Obama need the approval of Congress to end the embargo or can he just sign an executive order?

Only the congress can lift the travel ban.

And the trade embargo, presumably?
12  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / NBC/WSJ: Clinton leads among "could see yourself supporting" on: December 17, 2014, 04:41:39 pm
This isn't a traditional poll of candidate support.  The exact question is "I’m going to mention a number of people who might consider running for president in 2016. For each one, please tell me, yes or no, whether you could see yourself supporting that person for president in 2016."

yes/no %

Clinton 50/48% for +2%
Webb 9/24% for -15%
Paul 30/47% for -17%
Walker 15/32% for -17%
O'Malley 4/21% for -17%
Warren 22/40% for -18%
Sanders 10/30% for -20%
Rubio 20/43% for -23%
Bush 31/57% for -26%
Christie 27/53% for -26%
Romney 33/60% for -27%
Cruz 17/44% for -27%
Huckabee 25/53% for -28%
Perry 19/52% for -33%
13  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Ben Carson Super PAC already has campaign chairmen for all 99 Iowa counties on: December 17, 2014, 04:32:51 pm
It would be funny if they extended so much effort just for this guy to say no.

He's started to do some early primary state visits, is currently visiting Israel, and last week started interviewing potential campaign staffers:

http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=164982.msg4409039#msg4409039

So the interest certainly seems to be there.
14  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / The 2016 presidential field on Cuba on: December 17, 2014, 04:29:43 pm
a primer:

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/12/cuba-top-2016-contenders-113642.html
15  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Lindsey Graham says he's now considering on: December 17, 2014, 04:25:03 pm
Doing a little googling on the subject, I find that Graham's gay rumors are based solely on the fact that he never married, and he has denied it.  Unless some more conclusive evidence comes to light, I'm inclined to believe him.

I'd like to ask Brian Schweitzer's men-from-the-South gaydar for a second opinion.  If it's good enough for Eric Cantor, it must be good enough for Graham.
16  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The "Who is running?" tea leaves thread on: December 17, 2014, 04:21:11 pm
Carson is currently doing his tour in Israel:

http://dailycaller.com/2014/12/15/here-are-some-photos-of-ben-carson-in-israel/


17  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Santorum: "I've got seven kids, so obviously sex isn't a real problem for me" on: December 17, 2014, 04:20:10 pm
New Daily Caller interview with Santorum, but I thought I'd highlight that peculiar quote from the interview in the subject line, to make you more likely to click on this thread.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/12/16/santorum-talks-about-sex-movies-media-and-amnesty-video/

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"I’ve spoken on a lot of college campuses and a lot of high schools, and [I've got] seven kids, so obviously sex isn’t a real problem for me — and so I would say that if you talk to young people, you know what they’re looking for? Someone who tells them the truth. No young person expects you to agree with them. Heck, they’re not even sure where they are on a lot of issues."
18  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Ben Carson Super PAC already has campaign chairmen for all 99 Iowa counties on: December 17, 2014, 04:15:40 pm
*bump*

They're now opening offices in New Hampshire as well:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/9/draft-ben-carson-president-committee-opens-nh-offi/

The PAC has raised $10.5 million to date.
19  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Will Kim Jong-un ever watch "The Interview"? on: December 17, 2014, 04:06:37 pm
If only Ahmad Shah Massoud had been able to watch it before his death, he might have been more careful, and he'd still be with us (too soon?).
20  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The "Who is running?" tea leaves thread on: December 17, 2014, 02:56:30 pm
I don't think Rubio cares at all about the Senate seat.  He only ran for Senate in order to use it as a stepping stone for a presidential run.  Now, it's possible that he nonetheless bows out of a presidential run this time, and goes for Senate again, to bide his time for a future run...but only if he thinks that 2020 or 2024 will be a more favorable time for him than 2016.
21  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XIX: Melancholy and the Infinite Napping on: December 17, 2014, 11:53:17 am
Since it would be untidy to post this question on ODF's facial book, do you ever communicate at all with Allison and has she forgiven you for dumping her twice?

I thought the second breakup was her dumping him?
22  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Black Mirror on: December 17, 2014, 11:49:53 am
*bump*

Anyone else watch the Christmas episode?

Also, the first six episodes are apparently available on Netflix in the USA now.
23  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The "Who is running?" tea leaves thread on: December 17, 2014, 08:41:05 am
http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/16/politics/rubio-on-track-for-2016-run/index.html

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Florida Sen. Marco Rubio is on track to run for President in 2016 even if Jeb Bush also jumps into the race, a source close to Rubio says.

The source told CNN that a Bush candidacy -- increasingly likely after the former Florida governor said in a Facebook post Tuesday that he will "actively explore" running -- changes the dynamics of the race "but not Marco's thought process."

Rubio has invited supporters to a Jan. 23-24 retreat in Miami Beach, where his top aides and donors could formalize his plans for 2016.

Jindal was in Iowa yesterday, and is planning another trip there for next month:

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/2014/12/16/bobby-jindal-iowa-polk-county-gop/20515287/

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The two-term Republican governor and potential 2016 presidential candidate will hold two closed-door meetings with Iowa religious leaders in Cedar Rapids and Des Moines on Jan. 6.

The lunch and dinner events are intended to allow pastors to quiz the candidates and sound out their views without the press and public present.

Huckabee on his 2016 intentions:

http://www.greenevillesun.com/xml/nitf/article_8d2e6ac6-e085-55b8-b49d-29e22d323d45.html

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"I'm seriously weighing another run in 2016," Huckabee said during a Monday interview with The Greeneville Sun. "There's no doubt about that.

"I have not finalized the decision and really don't expect to until sometime in the mid-to-late spring. I think, having gone through the process before, a mistake is to get out too early."
24  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Lindsey Graham says he's now considering on: December 17, 2014, 02:07:07 am
"considering" ugh.

Is this the future: "I announce that I am considering an announcement of exploring the possibility of possibly running for President."

Potential candidates have been saying that they were "considering" running plenty of times before.  Graham himself gave some version of "I'm thinking about it" a couple of times already in the last couple of months:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/return-gop-hawks_808506.html?page=2

http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=164982.msg4391389#msg4391389

so I'm unclear on what's new in his latest statement.
25  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Primary Election Polls / Fox News national poll: D: Clinton 62% Warren 12%; R: Romney 19% Bush 10% on: December 17, 2014, 12:04:18 am
Fox News national primary poll:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2014/12/16/fox-news-poll-your-2016-presidential-election-fix/

Dems

Clinton 62%
Warren 12%
Biden 10%
Sanders 3%
Cuomo 2%
O'Malley 1%
Webb 1%

GOP

Romney 19%
Bush 10%
Christie 8%
Paul 8%
Huckabee 8%
Walker 7%
Carson 6%
Ryan 6%
Cruz 5%
Rubio 4%
Kasich 2%
Perry 2%
Jindal 1%
Santorum 1%
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