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1  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: California Adopts 'Yes Means Yes' Sexual Assault Rule on: Today at 02:12:31 am
Sorry, but let me add my voice to the skepticism here.  Sexual assault is a serious crime that should be investigated by the authorities in the criminal justice system.  If the authorities are dropping the ball on their investigations and prosecutions of this crime within the criminal justice system, such that they'd be better served by changing the consent rules to this new standard, then the state government should just go ahead and make that change.

Instead, it looks like they're keeping the same standard within the criminal justice system, but changing the standard for internal investigations conducted within universities, outside of the criminal justice system.  I understand that colleges and universities have codes of conduct for their students, and that it may be appropriate for a university to take action against a student even when a criminal conviction is not made, but why is it the state's business to micromanage how universities enforce their own codes of conduct?  It sounds like the legislature is just throwing up its hands and saying "Our criminal justice system can't prosecute rape properly, so we're going to use universities as a sort of secondary criminal justice system with different rules."  Seems like a cop-out.
2  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The "Who is running?" tea leaves thread on: Today at 01:50:13 am
Congrats Phil:


[Santorum] is already taking the temperature of potential donors. His big money benefactor, Foster Friess, still adores him. He’s headed to Iowa in October to meet with key conservative activists. And he is growing his grass-roots network beyond early primary states.
“My head is very wrapped around the idea of getting things in line to move forward, but it’s a process and you take a step at a time,” Santorum said in an interview.

While Santorum is clearly preparing for a 2016 run, he declined to put a timeline on when he would make an official announcement. Santorum predicted that the presidential campaign season would start later in the 2016 cycle. Earlier this year, the party moved to cut the number of primary debates — a decision that would benefit candidates who don’t need the free media exposure.

“That may cause a whole rethinking as to when the campaign starts, we’ll see,” Santorum said. “Really the campaign doesn’t get much momentum until you have debates. You don’t really see the candidates. You can have some forums, but they are generally not as heavily covered and so it becomes much more of an organizational, fundraising time as opposed to more of a public debate of ideas.”
3  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XVII: I Ate The Strawberry (The REAL, AUTHENTIC Update) on: September 29, 2014, 09:42:09 pm
If this were really a TV show, what would happen is that Bushie would build up in his head that he was going to be fired.  Then he gets sick the night before, but figures…."Well, I don't really need to work tomorrow.  I'm just going to go in for an hour to get fired, and then can go home and sleep."

However, the meeting with his boss turns out to be just his boss telling him that he's on thin ice, but that he can keep his job if he finishes this one big really important job *today*, which will presumably include a lot of overtime.  That's why he was told not to come in on Monday, so that he can work longer hours on Tuesday.  Then Bushie has to work all day while sick, to avoid losing his job.

However, because he's sick, he isn't able to finish the project, and is fired.  But by pushing himself this hard, he ends up bed ridden for the next week, forcing him to miss an interview with Walmart.  He isn't able to get back to Walmart for another week, by which time it's too late, because they've already implemented their holiday season hiring freeze.

By this time, the entire office at Bushie's old workplace has been infected by the bug he brought in, and their staff shortages threaten to shut the place down.  However, Bushie brings in his Native American doctor, who uses ancient Native herbal remedies to cure the entire office.  Bushie's old boss is so impressed that he hires the Native American doctor on the spot, but gets a restraining order against Bushie, so that he can never bring in his germs again.
4  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XVII: I Ate The Strawberry (The REAL, AUTHENTIC Update) on: September 29, 2014, 09:33:17 pm
After all this buildup, I think it would be hilarious if he doesn't get fired at all.

Bushie then has to work all day while being sick.  (OK, that part wouldn't be hilarious.)
5  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XVII: I Ate The Strawberry (The REAL, AUTHENTIC Update) on: September 29, 2014, 09:17:40 pm
You could always threaten to infect everyone in the office with your germs if you don't get a good reference from him.


Hope you feel better.
6  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: krazen's son on: September 29, 2014, 08:59:28 pm
I think Krazen's son is imaginary at this point.  In that light, I think the hardest to take would be "Dad, I'm dating BRTD's daughter."
7  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Question about US election specifics on: September 29, 2014, 08:51:47 pm
Here's your thread on the 2012 numbers:


Note my comments at the end of the thread, about how such calculations are kind of a mess, since people can and do move across state lines (and in some cases overseas), while still voting absentee.

Some of these cases of high registered voters / eligible voters ratios (especially Michigan, lol!) could be people who've moved out of the state, are still on the voter rolls, and possibly even still vote absentee.  I still vote in the US (in Washington, since that was the last state I lived in), and am on the voter rolls there, but wouldn't be counted in any kind of Census count of "eligible voters", since I don't actually live in the US.  Of course, very few American citizens actually emigrate from the country altogether, but migration across state borders is common.  Many college students, for example, could be voting in states that they're not currently living in, so how would they be counted in tallies like this?

Would be interesting to see if there's a correlation between population growth and %age of the "eligible" population who's actually registered to vote.  If I'm right, then slow population growth would be correlated with high registration rates.  On the other hand, that could also just be a consequence of slow population growth meaning that the state has a large number of old people, who will on average be more likely to vote than the young.

EDIT: Also, what if, nationwide, you have a substantial portion of the population who votes very very rarely?  Say, once every ten years, or even once every twenty years.  If you have a state where there's no migration into or out of the state, they'll have very high registation fractions, simply because the rare voters are all sticking around and staying on the voting rolls, even though they practically never vote.  But if you have a high degree of migration, the rare voters who vote once a decade will be much more likely to live in states where they're not registered.

The point is, things are pretty lax regarding people moving and what state they're "eligible" to vote in.  If you're trying to count the universe of people who are legally eligible to vote in every given state, then there'll be double counting, because you can be legally eligible to vote in more than one state (as long as you're only registered in one state at a time).  E.g., college students living away from home can register at their parents' place, or their college residence.  Their choice.
8  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: World wildlife population halved in 40 years on: September 29, 2014, 06:57:33 pm
I'm confused.  Are those drops the %age drops in the number of species or in the number of individual animals?
9  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What will have happened on The Update by 2024? on: September 29, 2014, 06:21:45 pm
Bushie seems to think that Update will only run through 2021:


By that time he will have moved to Kenya, married Lupita Nyong'o, and…..well, I'm not going to spoil it for you.
10  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: 4/10 Americans now own a valid passport, up from 1/33 in 1989 on: September 29, 2014, 07:10:15 am
America is big.  There is no need for most regular folk to own a passport.  Most of us can't afford vacations to Europe or Asia.

But then why is it now up to 40%?  That's an enormous growth rate.

11  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Values Voter Straw Poll; Cruz, Carson top two again on: September 29, 2014, 06:12:57 am
Biden got more votes than Christie:

12  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Ted Cruz on ISIS, and the split among GOP hawks on: September 29, 2014, 06:12:19 am
Santorum has "serious concerns" about arming Syrian rebels:


"Back in 2011 I argued vociferously for arming the rebels when we knew who the rebels were and had an idea that these were the folks that actually, if they were successful, could be a suitable replacement for the Assad government. I don't think we're in a position right now," Santorum said.

When asked if that meant he opposed arming the rebels, he paused.

"I have serious concerns about arming folks who are Islamists," he said.
13  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Petition to demod ag on: September 29, 2014, 03:40:30 am
The forum is presumably packaged with the rest of the site.  I don't know why he'd continue one without the other.  What's more likely is that the forum continues but descends into anarchy as various moderators become inactive over time and Dave fails to replace them.  It took him years to remove Lunar as a mod, for example.

More moderators become inactive over time, and so more boards become unmoderated, and more of the forum becomes a lawless zone where people can post absolutely anything with no consequence.

Eventually someone posts something illegal, and the site gets shut down.
14  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Petition to demod ag on: September 29, 2014, 02:44:11 am
How will the poor quality of the mods lead to the forum being shut down?
It won't.  It will shut down when Dave either shuts down the website (probably not for a long time) or when he realizes the MB isn't worth the trouble (could be tomorrow, could be a decade).

Right.  It won't.  But then I'm confused about why you were talking about the forum shutting down in a post that's about the quality of the mods, since the two don't really have anything to do with one another.

In any case, since Dave isn't active here and never talks to us, I assume that what'll happen is that the Atlas and the forum will continue for another 50 years or so, until Dave drops dead.  He dies of old age, and payments for the use of this web space simply stop, causing the Atlas and forum to go "poof" with no warning to us.  We just try to log into the forum one day and discover that it's gone.  There is no warning, since Dave never stops by here to post about his declining health.
15  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The "Who is running?" tea leaves thread on: September 29, 2014, 12:54:32 am

Ted Cruz is running for president. The only thing left for him to do is say so.

According to sources close to the Texas senator, Cruz could be preparing for an end-of-year announcement and is now dedicating considerable time and effort to cultivating a foreign-policy foundation that might help his candidacy stand out in what is guaranteed to be a crowded field.

"At this point it's 90/10 he's in," one Cruz adviser said. "And honestly, 90 is lowballing it."
Cruz's allies in the conservative movement have long obsessed over the timing of his decision. The senator told some supporters earlier this year that he planned to decide by the end of 2014, lending added gravity to every new hire and early-state visit.
16  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The "Who is running?" tea leaves thread on: September 29, 2014, 12:51:57 am
George Pataki allegedly thinking (again) about running for president:


A timeline of Romney going from absolutely not to thinking about it on 2016:

17  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Petition to demod ag on: September 29, 2014, 12:51:13 am
There are several mods here that shouldn't be because of their general assholishness.  If the owner knew and cared they would have been gone long ago, but clearly he barely cares and most likely has no idea.  It's going to suck when he shuts the message board down, but I think the awesomeness of watching most of you people freak the funk out will be well worth the suck.

How will the poor quality of the mods lead to the forum being shut down?

Also, how will you be able to watch people freak out if the forum is shut down?  Do you follow people here on Twitter or something?
18  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Post funny pictures of likely 2016 presidential candidates here (no photoshops) on: September 29, 2014, 12:45:09 am
Since Romney 2016 is now apparently a possibility….

19  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XVII: I Ate The Strawberry (The REAL, AUTHENTIC Update) on: September 28, 2014, 11:50:56 pm
Anyway, it's interesting that Update could significantly change the course of Bushie's life. Has this happened before?

Well, Update stopped him from taking a scam job that could have landed him in jail.
20  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: How many of your grandparents are alive? on: September 28, 2014, 09:48:03 pm
Zero.  None of them lived long enough to see their 83rd birthday, and in fact both grandmothers died before I was born.

I did have a great grandmother who lived well into her 90s, but she died when I was about 10.
21  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XVII: I Ate The Strawberry (The REAL, AUTHENTIC Update) on: September 28, 2014, 07:02:29 pm
You don't have to get up and you'll get tons of girls.

So *that's* how you get girls?  Why didn't you ever tell us that when you were The Professor?  All you ever talked about was what *won't* help us get girls.

22  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XVII: I Ate The Strawberry (The REAL, AUTHENTIC Update) on: September 28, 2014, 07:00:29 pm
Bushie, why don't you try to get a pizza delivery job? It's the easiest $12/hour ever. Plus you get to eat garbage for free. And you can still watch all the tv you want on your own time. No boring personal development required. It's perfect.
This is a serious suggestion. Will you consider pizza delivery?

If I get desperate.

You will, you always are. Cooking isn't that hard, bruh. I already cooked a boca meatloaf filled with fresh veggies for our dinner, with a side of green beans with almond slices. All me, all in an hour.

Reading comprehension….
23  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Wales on: September 28, 2014, 07:18:12 am
I hear that Al has a lot of strong opinions about Wales, which is not part of England:

24  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: BREAKING: American forces bomb ISIS targets in Iraq on: September 28, 2014, 06:49:17 am
He's Hitler ideologically, not strategically.

Dear God, no.  Assad is a bloodthirsty dictator, but such a comparison is as absurd as calling ISIS "Islamofascist". I stated my opinion before; the misuse of certain words should be banned from Earth.

LOL at the idea that both Assad and ISIS are Hitler. Why is Hitler fighting with himself?

Assad is an economically conservative Hitler and ISIS is a socially conservative Hitler.
25  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: latest Betfair odds on: September 28, 2014, 12:58:04 am
Bush drops, putting Paul now in second place:

Rubio 16.3
Paul 12.2
Bush 11.9
Christie 10.0
Perry 9.5
Romney 8.4
Cruz 6.0
Ryan 4.5
Walker 4.0
Huckabee 3.3
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