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101  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Would it be a mistake for the GOP nominee not to vet Martinez, Sandoval, Rubio? on: April 10, 2014, 06:33:54 pm
Sad her father has Alzheimer's, anyway, that rules her out for sure then.

Her father died last year:

http://www.koat.com/news/new-mexico/Gov-Susana-Martinez-s-father-dies/17983142
102  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Primary Election Polls / Re: MI-PPP: Paul 16% Christie 15% Huckabee 15% Cruz 11% Bush 9% Ryan 5% Walker 5% on: April 10, 2014, 08:15:25 am
Who leads among….?

moderates: Christie
somewhat conservative: Christie
very conservative: Paul
men: Paul
women: Huckabee
age 18-45: Christie
age 46-65: Paul
age 65+: Huckabee
103  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The "Who is running?" tea leaves thread on: April 10, 2014, 07:50:23 am
Already mentioned in another thread, but Hillary Clinton says "I am thinking about it" (re: running in 2016):

http://boston.com/news/politics/2014/04/09/hillary-clinton-presidential-campaign-thinking-about/kok3n2KvVS4llfC6faU2KL/story.html

Her book now has a release date as well.  June 10:

http://time.com/56016/hillary-clinton-memoir-june/

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The book, which will be published by Simon & Shuster, will cover key moments during her time as Secretary of State, a position she held from 2009 to early 2013. Clinton also shares her thoughts on how to “navigate the challenges of the 21st century,”according to the website. It will be her second memoir after 2003′s Living History.

Sanders on his upcoming trip to New Hampshire:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2014/04/08/sanders-vermont-new-hampshire/7478245/

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"Obviously, New Hampshire is very important in terms of presidential politics," Sanders, 72, said in an interview. "And if I run, it's important that we do well in New Hampshire and it's important that I start meeting people in New Hampshire and people start meeting me."

Sanders said he isn't planning to make any announcements at the college, and he won't decide on a presidential bid for "many, many months."

"Look, if I run, I'm not going to be the multibillion-dollar candidate," Sanders said. "I'm not going to be the guy getting the money from corporate America and Wall Street. But I will need a very, very strong grassroots movement, and that's not so easy to bring about. So I have to get a sense from people who I respect in terms of what they think."

Santorum on 2016:

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/RickSantorum-2016-gop-presidential/2014/04/05/id/563866/

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Former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum told Newsmax he is "seriously looking at" another run for the Republican presidential nomination in 2016.

"My family is also seriously looking at it," Santorum told Newsmax Friday, adding that they will support whatever decision he makes.

"Or a better way to put it is that I will support whatever decision they make," he quickly added with a laugh.
104  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Would you attend UPDATECON? on: April 10, 2014, 07:15:36 am
I would. Only to close it down Cheesy

Forum Community moderators would wander around the Updatecon, putting tape over people's mouths.
105  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Did Bushie actually graduate from CADD school? on: April 10, 2014, 02:17:49 am
Simfan also claimed to have insider information on which Democrats were considering a run for president in 2016:

http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=164982.msg3524755#msg3524755

He must be quite the Washington / Oklahoma insider.
106  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: March 2014: First month ever with no dead soldiers in Iraq and/or Afghanistan on: April 10, 2014, 12:24:51 am
Smiley. We can have more months like this if we pull out immediately.

Yes, there would be more months like this if we pull out.  But then, in the period at the end of those months, there would be more bloodshed.

Whereas if we *don't* pull out immediately, there would be more human life on this Earth.  Exactly when that would begin is something best left up to philosophers, but I think it should be clear to all within about 9 months (which incidentally is roughly when the last international troops are scheduled to leave Afghanistan under current arrangements), give or take.
107  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Who are the Most Notorious Posters in Atlas Forum History? - Vote here! on: April 09, 2014, 10:21:33 pm
I don't know whether to be offended or flattered by my inclusion.

You should celebrate your inclusion by creating five sock accounts to give yourself extra votes in this poll.
108  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Who are the Most Notorious Posters in Atlas Forum History? - Vote here! on: April 09, 2014, 09:51:34 pm
write-in: kljackson

Good catch.  I can't think of a single kljackson post that isn't notorious on its own.  Then combine all those notorious posts into his entire posting history, and, well…..
109  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Hillary is "thinking about it" on: April 09, 2014, 08:42:17 pm
I'm pretty sure this is the first time she's explicitly confirmed it - maybe not?

Nope, not the first time.  It may be the first time she's succinctly used the phrase "I'm thinking about it", but she's said that she's thinking about it using paragraph form many times before.  For example, in September:



The key quotes from that article...

When asked if she wrestles with the question of whether to run for president:

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“I do,” she says, “but I’m both pragmatic and realistic. I think I have a pretty good idea of the political and governmental challenges that are facing our leaders, and I’ll do whatever I can from whatever position I find myself in to advocate for the values and the policies I think are right for the country. I will just continue to weigh what the factors are that would influence me making a decision one way or the other.”

110  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Would it be a mistake for the GOP nominee not to vet Martinez, Sandoval, Rubio? on: April 09, 2014, 08:25:44 pm
Don't know, but I think it's safe to say that if Clinton is the Democratic nominee, then the GOP VP short list will include one or more women.
111  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: MI-PPP: Hilldog basically ahead by double digits on: April 09, 2014, 08:23:03 pm
Here's the link, ftr: http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2014/04/michigan-miscellany.html#more
112  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Primary Election Polls / MI-PPP: Paul 16% Christie 15% Huckabee 15% Cruz 11% Bush 9% Ryan 5% Walker 5% on: April 09, 2014, 08:21:36 pm
PPP GOP primary poll of Michigan:

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2014/04/michigan-miscellany.html#more

Paul 16%
Christie 15%
Huckabee 15%
Cruz 11%
Bush 9%
Ryan 5%
Walker 5%
Rubio 4%
Jindal 3%
113  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Can you name all 50 states? on: April 09, 2014, 06:10:11 pm
I can name all 57 states.
114  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The "Who is running?" tea leaves thread on: April 09, 2014, 06:05:10 pm
Clinton is stumped by a tough question from a six year old at an event in Portland, OR:

link

Wow. I think that was the first time besides the Benghazi hearings where she actually came across as likeable to me.

You don't think she came across as likeable in her Hamish & Andy interview?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xlCNf0MwCU
115  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The "Who is running?" tea leaves thread on: April 09, 2014, 05:55:08 pm
Clinton is stumped by a tough question from a six year old at an event in Portland, OR:

link
116  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Primary Election Polls / Re: MS-Harper: Bush 29% Christie 12% Cruz 12% Paul 11% Jindal 8% Rubio 5% Walker 5% on: April 09, 2014, 09:03:17 am
Hehe right. Tongue Well they should know about Rubio's prime position as the media kept talking about it nonstop for months. Concerning Bush it's probably cloudier though.

Well, Rubio's name recognition is only about 65%.  About a third of the voters don't even know who he is, let alone his immigration position.  The other two thirds probably fall along a continuum between "political junkie" and "are aware that there's some Republican politician named Marco Rubio".
117  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The "Who is running?" tea leaves thread on: April 09, 2014, 08:58:30 am
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/04/08/jeb-bush-to-meet-with-southern-baptist-leader/

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Former Florida governor Jeb Bush is reaching out to evangelical leaders as he considers a 2016 presidential run, and in early May, he will meet privately with Russell Moore, one of the country’s most prominent Southern Baptists.

Moore, a frequent presence on television and at theological conferences, heads the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, the public policy arm of the Southern Baptist Convention, which has more than 16 million members.

Moore and an aide to Bush have confirmed the session, which will take place at Bush’s office in Miami. Bush, who has played down the idea that he is exploring a campaign, asked Moore to meet with him earlier this year.
118  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Why "Will so-and-so run?" kind of misses the point on: April 09, 2014, 08:55:55 am
Jonathan Bernstein has a good primer on why "Will so-and-so run for president?" is a somewhat misguided question.  It seems to miss the point that the race for the respective party nominations is going on right now, not off in the future at some point, and that the decision about whether to run for president is an ongoing one, rather than a one time yes-or-no:

http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2014-04-08/will-she-or-won-t-she-run-stop-asking

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Each of the dozens of politicians who sees him or herself as president has a personal threshold for the risk they would be willing to take as an active candidate. They then (implicitly, if not explicitly) calculate the odds of winning, and if their chances are better than that threshold, they begin a campaign. They constantly reassess their chances, and choose whether to continue. As a practical matter, those reassessments are probably more conscious when there’s a major campaign event (a campaign finance deadline, an important straw poll or endorsement) that appears to revise the odds of winning. Such assessments also are more likely when the candidacy hits a major on-ramp, such as the perceived need to hire staff, or increase campaign appearances or, eventually, to enter primaries.
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“Will she or won’t she?” garbles all of these considerations. It gets the tense wrong; the nomination campaign is now, not in the future. It implies a decision, rather than a risk calculation. It treats the decision to run as static, a one-time choice, when it’s dynamic. Most of all, it inverts the entire process, which involves the party winnowing out candidates, rather than waiting around for them to begin running.
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So what we need from the press is solid reporting on what the current candidates are actually doing, as Robert Costa does here with Jeb Bush, and on what important party actors are thinking. Drop the “will he or won’t he?” questions.
119  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Primary Election Polls / Re: MS-Harper: Bush 29% Christie 12% Cruz 12% Paul 11% Jindal 8% Rubio 5% Walker 5% on: April 09, 2014, 08:47:01 am
It's really interesting that the two most immigration friendly candidates, Bush and Rubio, do a lot better in the south than elsewhere. I really don't think it's solely cause they're based in Florida. Rubio did really well in a South Carolina poll and now Bush is crushing the competition in Mississippi. Could it be that being the hub for slavery has opened up southern whites' minds when it comes to immigration, being it legal or illegal?

You're assuming voters are actually paying enough attention to the 2016 race to actually know the candidates' immigration positions…..
120  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The "Who is running?" tea leaves thread on: April 09, 2014, 06:55:45 am

Yeah, I just said that two posts ago.  Tongue
121  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The "Who is running?" tea leaves thread on: April 09, 2014, 03:40:54 am
Carson says "I'll leave that in the hands of God" when asked if he's going to run for president in 2016:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/05/ben-carson-2016_n_5097610.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

Meanwhile, Pence gives another carefully worded non-denial when asked about whether he plans to run for reelection for governor or run for president (or neither) in 2016:

http://wane.com/news/local/pence-grateful-to-lawmakers-weighing-2016-decision/

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Pence: “I’m humbled by the mentions and humbled by any encouragement, but I think any interest that is emerging in me is as much about the progress Indiana’s making as anything else… and that’s where I’m going to stay completely focused -is on the future of the people of Indiana- and we’ll let my future take care of itself.”

Mark: “So when do you decide whether it’s going to be a run for reelection in 2016 or a run for the White House?”

Pence: “We’ll make a decision on seeking reelection to this office sometime probably next year. I don’t know exactly when that would be. But, in the meantime, we’re not going to be thinking a lot about politics or our future.”
122  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What general doctor do you have ? on: April 09, 2014, 12:23:00 am
There's no option for "haven't seen a general doctor in many years".
123  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The "Who is running?" tea leaves thread on: April 08, 2014, 11:53:17 pm
Santorum will make a three day trip to South Carolina next week.  Cruz will stop by the state as well, but just for one day:

http://www.kspr.com/news/politics/First-on-CNN-Santorum-South-Carolina-bound/21051736_25388980

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CNN has learned that the 2012 GOP presidential candidate and former senator from Pennsylvania will be in the Palmetto State from April 13-15 for fundraising events and meetings with Republicans.

A senior aide to the former senator tells CNN that Santorum will attend a fundraiser on Sunday in Charleston for Patriot Voices, his non-profit group that aims to mobilize conservative causes. On Monday, he'll attend GOP events in Charleston before traveling to Columbia on Tuesday for private meetings with grassroots activists and political leaders.

That same day another potential 2016 Republican White House hopeful, Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, headlines the Free Enterprise Foundation dinner in Charleston.
124  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Could Sanders beat Clinton in the primaries in 2016? on: April 08, 2014, 09:51:07 pm
If Sanders is Clinton's only opponent for the nomination, what % of the vote do you think he'd get in Iowa and NH?
125  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The "Who is running?" tea leaves thread on: April 08, 2014, 09:19:21 pm
Hillary Clinton on 2016:

http://www.cnet.com/news/hillary-clinton/

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"The hard questions aren't do you want to be president, or can you win," said Clinton, who appeared here as the headliner at a conference sponsored by marketing automation software company Marketo. "The hard question is why. Why would you want to do this and what would you offer that could make a difference."
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For now, though, Clinton said she does not plan "to make a decision for a while," saying she is "actually enjoying my life...seeing my friends and going on long walks and playing with my dog."

"I danced around that pretty well, didn't I," she said, drawing peals of laughter from the audience.
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