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101  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The "Who is running?" tea leaves thread on: April 11, 2014, 03:53:45 am
From Huckabee's latest trip to Iowa:

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2014/04/in-iowa-mike-huckabee-drops-serious-hints-to-supporters-about-2016/

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Unofficially, the former Republican presidential candidate-turned-Fox News host was there to hold a series of private meetings that lend credence to Huckabee’s own recent declarations that he is “seriously considering” a 2016 bid.

A source close to Huckabee confirmed to ABC News that while in Iowa, Huckabee met behind closed doors with Gov. Terry Branstad, a fellow Republican, and other state GOP leaders and officials. In addition, he also huddled with several members of his 2008 campaign team based in the state.

His message to those he encountered Tuesday, according to the source familiar with the discussions, was clear: Keep your powder dry.
102  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The "Who is running?" tea leaves thread on: April 11, 2014, 12:12:28 am

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Tennessee Congresswoman Marsha Blackburn will consider running for president in 2016 -- if she sees an opportunity to do so, an aide to the 7th District Republican told RealClearPolitics.   

Blackburn is scheduled to be one of the speakers at a New Hampshire Republican rally this weekend but was not previously known to be mulling a White House bid.

“If there’s a door to kick down, she’s willing to kick it down,” the aide, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said. “These are the kinds of events you go to -- test the waters, and see what the reaction is.”
103  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The "Who is running?" tea leaves thread on: April 10, 2014, 11:20:37 pm
Therun notes all the 2016 action happening over the next few days:

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/run-2016/2014/04/10/5-days-of-2016-action

Thursday: Clinton in Las Vegas, NV

Friday: Ryan in Cedar Rapids, IA; Paul in Dover, NH and Hampton Falls, NH

Saturday: Cruz, Gingrich, Huckabee, Paul and Trump speak at the "Freedom Summit" in Manchester, NH; Paul is also doing an additional NH event that day to raise money for a conservative nonprofit group

Sunday: nothing

Monday: Santorum in Charleston, SC

Tuesday: Cruz in Charleston, SC; Santorum in Columbia, SC

Yes, it's only April 2014.
104  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Sheldon Adelson yanks Christie's leash after West Bank comments on: April 10, 2014, 11:01:52 pm
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/run-2016/2014/04/10/top-jewish-leader-may-boycott-christie-event-in-nyc

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The Jewish leader who clashed with Gov. Chris Christie in Las Vegas last month may boycott another Jewish gala in New York because of Christie's presence.

Mort Klein, president of the Zionist Organization of America, tells U.S. News he's called the rabbi organizing the May 18 Jewish Values Awards Gala Dinner to express his dismay at Christie's top billing at the event.

Nearly two months after his botched address in front of the Republican Jewish Coalition, the New Jersey governor is slated to be the keynote speaker at another star-packed Jewish event in the Big Apple that will honor those who have promoted Jewish values in mainstream culture.

Klein, who reprimanded Christie for referring to "occupied territories" in his remarks in front of the RJC, says the lineup of Christie and actor Sean Penn are of great concern to him.
105  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Your governors during your lifetime on: April 10, 2014, 08:36:27 pm
I've got 15 (governors in the US and state premiers in Australia), which I think is the most of anyone in this thread so far:

Pat Lucey
Martin Schreiber
Lee Dreyfus
Tony Earl
Tommy Thompson
Arne Carlson
Jesse Ventura
George Pataki
Mark Warner
Tim Kaine
Christine Gregoire
Nathan Rees
Kristina Keneally
Barry O'Farrell
Colin Barnett
106  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Who are the Most Notorious Posters in Atlas Forum History? - Vote here! on: April 10, 2014, 08:20:14 pm
It's interesting how, despite all the complaints about bannings, Nym escapes being labeled "notorious".
107  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / MOVED: 2016: Battle of the Irrelevants! on: April 10, 2014, 08:14:58 pm
This topic has been moved to Alternative Elections.

http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=190474.0
108  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / MOVED: Any Southern Democrats Left On Here? on: April 10, 2014, 08:13:32 pm
This topic has been moved to Individual Politics.

http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=190674.0
109  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Primary Election Polls / Re: NC-PPP: Huckabee 22% Bush 18% Christie 12% Cruz 12% Paul 9% Ryan 9% Walker 7% on: April 10, 2014, 08:12:14 pm
Starting to see something of a trend in the crosstabs of these state polls.  Looks like Bush tends to do better with moderates / somewhat conservative (but not very conservative) voters in the South, while Christie does better with those voters in the North.

Also, nearly every poll (including this one) has Huckabee doing better with women than men.  That trend extends back to 2008.  He's always done better with women than men in Republican primary contests.  (Though obviously that doesn't extend to general election matchups.)  Which is kind of ironic, given the outcry over the "libido" comments.
110  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Primary Election Polls / Re: NC-PPP: Huckabee 22% Bush 18% Christie 12% Cruz 12% Paul 9% Ryan 9% Walker 7% on: April 10, 2014, 08:05:56 pm
Who leads among....?

moderates: Bush
somewhat conservative: Bush
very conservative: Huckabee
men: Huckabee
women: Huckabee
age 18-45: Hukcabee
age 46-65: Huckabee
age 65+: Bush
111  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Primary Election Polls / NC-PPP: Huckabee 22% Bush 18% Christie 12% Cruz 12% Paul 9% Ryan 9% Walker 7% on: April 10, 2014, 08:04:14 pm
PPP GOP primary poll of North Carolina:

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2014/04/north-carolina-miscellany.html#more

Huckabee 22%
Bush 18%
Christie 12%
Cruz 12%
Paul 9%
Ryan 9%
Walker 7%
Rubio 5%
Jindal 2%
112  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Would it be a mistake for the GOP nominee not to vet Martinez, Sandoval, Rubio? on: April 10, 2014, 06:33:54 pm
Sad her father has Alzheimer's, anyway, that rules her out for sure then.

Her father died last year:

http://www.koat.com/news/new-mexico/Gov-Susana-Martinez-s-father-dies/17983142
113  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Primary Election Polls / Re: MI-PPP: Paul 16% Christie 15% Huckabee 15% Cruz 11% Bush 9% Ryan 5% Walker 5% on: April 10, 2014, 08:15:25 am
Who leads among….?

moderates: Christie
somewhat conservative: Christie
very conservative: Paul
men: Paul
women: Huckabee
age 18-45: Christie
age 46-65: Paul
age 65+: Huckabee
114  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The "Who is running?" tea leaves thread on: April 10, 2014, 07:50:23 am
Already mentioned in another thread, but Hillary Clinton says "I am thinking about it" (re: running in 2016):

http://boston.com/news/politics/2014/04/09/hillary-clinton-presidential-campaign-thinking-about/kok3n2KvVS4llfC6faU2KL/story.html

Her book now has a release date as well.  June 10:

http://time.com/56016/hillary-clinton-memoir-june/

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The book, which will be published by Simon & Shuster, will cover key moments during her time as Secretary of State, a position she held from 2009 to early 2013. Clinton also shares her thoughts on how to “navigate the challenges of the 21st century,”according to the website. It will be her second memoir after 2003′s Living History.

Sanders on his upcoming trip to New Hampshire:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2014/04/08/sanders-vermont-new-hampshire/7478245/

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"Obviously, New Hampshire is very important in terms of presidential politics," Sanders, 72, said in an interview. "And if I run, it's important that we do well in New Hampshire and it's important that I start meeting people in New Hampshire and people start meeting me."

Sanders said he isn't planning to make any announcements at the college, and he won't decide on a presidential bid for "many, many months."

"Look, if I run, I'm not going to be the multibillion-dollar candidate," Sanders said. "I'm not going to be the guy getting the money from corporate America and Wall Street. But I will need a very, very strong grassroots movement, and that's not so easy to bring about. So I have to get a sense from people who I respect in terms of what they think."

Santorum on 2016:

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/RickSantorum-2016-gop-presidential/2014/04/05/id/563866/

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Former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum told Newsmax he is "seriously looking at" another run for the Republican presidential nomination in 2016.

"My family is also seriously looking at it," Santorum told Newsmax Friday, adding that they will support whatever decision he makes.

"Or a better way to put it is that I will support whatever decision they make," he quickly added with a laugh.
115  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Would you attend UPDATECON? on: April 10, 2014, 07:15:36 am
I would. Only to close it down Cheesy

Forum Community moderators would wander around the Updatecon, putting tape over people's mouths.
116  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Did Bushie actually graduate from CADD school? on: April 10, 2014, 02:17:49 am
Simfan also claimed to have insider information on which Democrats were considering a run for president in 2016:

http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=164982.msg3524755#msg3524755

He must be quite the Washington / Oklahoma insider.
117  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: March 2014: First month ever with no dead soldiers in Iraq and/or Afghanistan on: April 10, 2014, 12:24:51 am
Smiley. We can have more months like this if we pull out immediately.

Yes, there would be more months like this if we pull out.  But then, in the period at the end of those months, there would be more bloodshed.

Whereas if we *don't* pull out immediately, there would be more human life on this Earth.  Exactly when that would begin is something best left up to philosophers, but I think it should be clear to all within about 9 months (which incidentally is roughly when the last international troops are scheduled to leave Afghanistan under current arrangements), give or take.
118  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Who are the Most Notorious Posters in Atlas Forum History? - Vote here! on: April 09, 2014, 10:21:33 pm
I don't know whether to be offended or flattered by my inclusion.

You should celebrate your inclusion by creating five sock accounts to give yourself extra votes in this poll.
119  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Who are the Most Notorious Posters in Atlas Forum History? - Vote here! on: April 09, 2014, 09:51:34 pm
write-in: kljackson

Good catch.  I can't think of a single kljackson post that isn't notorious on its own.  Then combine all those notorious posts into his entire posting history, and, well…..
120  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Hillary is "thinking about it" on: April 09, 2014, 08:42:17 pm
I'm pretty sure this is the first time she's explicitly confirmed it - maybe not?

Nope, not the first time.  It may be the first time she's succinctly used the phrase "I'm thinking about it", but she's said that she's thinking about it using paragraph form many times before.  For example, in September:



The key quotes from that article...

When asked if she wrestles with the question of whether to run for president:

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“I do,” she says, “but I’m both pragmatic and realistic. I think I have a pretty good idea of the political and governmental challenges that are facing our leaders, and I’ll do whatever I can from whatever position I find myself in to advocate for the values and the policies I think are right for the country. I will just continue to weigh what the factors are that would influence me making a decision one way or the other.”

121  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Would it be a mistake for the GOP nominee not to vet Martinez, Sandoval, Rubio? on: April 09, 2014, 08:25:44 pm
Don't know, but I think it's safe to say that if Clinton is the Democratic nominee, then the GOP VP short list will include one or more women.
122  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: MI-PPP: Hilldog basically ahead by double digits on: April 09, 2014, 08:23:03 pm
Here's the link, ftr: http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2014/04/michigan-miscellany.html#more
123  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Primary Election Polls / MI-PPP: Paul 16% Christie 15% Huckabee 15% Cruz 11% Bush 9% Ryan 5% Walker 5% on: April 09, 2014, 08:21:36 pm
PPP GOP primary poll of Michigan:

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2014/04/michigan-miscellany.html#more

Paul 16%
Christie 15%
Huckabee 15%
Cruz 11%
Bush 9%
Ryan 5%
Walker 5%
Rubio 4%
Jindal 3%
124  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Can you name all 50 states? on: April 09, 2014, 06:10:11 pm
I can name all 57 states.
125  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The "Who is running?" tea leaves thread on: April 09, 2014, 06:05:10 pm
Clinton is stumped by a tough question from a six year old at an event in Portland, OR:

link

Wow. I think that was the first time besides the Benghazi hearings where she actually came across as likeable to me.

You don't think she came across as likeable in her Hamish & Andy interview?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xlCNf0MwCU
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