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1  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Would Edward Snowden deserve the Nobel Peace Prize? on: September 13, 2014, 12:50:35 pm
if he "deserves to rot in Hell" I don't want to now what Kissinger and Obama deserve
2  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: How is the state of the United States Economy? on: September 12, 2014, 06:24:46 am
depends who you are.  there is no general economic interest.
3  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: "House Jewish caucus shrinks, causing worries over influence" on: September 11, 2014, 01:48:18 pm
I would put the odds higher than that. In fact I would put the odds above getting rid of apartheid.

which was done by getting the US to join the world consensus.
4  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: "House Jewish caucus shrinks, causing worries over influence" on: September 11, 2014, 01:45:02 pm

By the same logic, as you have a self-described hatred for Israel, you should get out of your comfortable New York home, and enlist for Hamas. Such would also be "honest" according to your definition.

my hatred for Israel is not necessarily because it is a criminal state - there are plenty of those that I hardly ever think about - but because, in a real sense, it's being done in my name, with my resources, and I'm responsible for it to the extent that I can effect it.  if US/Israel relations were severed and the US stop sending military aid to Israel, my work would be more or less done.

So basically, you don't so much want the problem to be solved, as to divorce yourself from the problem. Whereas I (and despite your wild fantasies, bedstuy) would prefer if the problem were, you know, solved, in a satisfactory manner that does not mandate pointless killing.


obviously we all want the problem "solved" and for Arabs and Jews to walk hand-in-hand along the purple mountains eating wild honey.  but that's about as likely as "solving" the problem of evil, and the US war machine about the last organization in the world I would want to try and handle the task.
5  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: "House Jewish caucus shrinks, causing worries over influence" on: September 11, 2014, 01:33:11 pm

By the same logic, as you have a self-described hatred for Israel, you should get out of your comfortable New York home, and enlist for Hamas. Such would also be "honest" according to your definition.

my hatred for Israel is not necessarily because it is a criminal state - there are plenty of those that I hardly ever think about - but because, in a real sense, it's being done in my name, with my resources, and I'm responsible for it to the extent that I can effect it.  if US/Israel relations were severed and the US stop sending military aid to Israel, my work would be more or less done.
6  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: "House Jewish caucus shrinks, causing worries over influence" on: September 11, 2014, 01:18:17 pm
Meir Kahane is a neofascist. Jews this side of Otzma don't listen to him.

point is, Kahane's position was far more honest.  if you want to slaughter Arabs and hold the world hostage, go do it, don't sit in the safety of your Brooklyn brownstone and capture US assets to do it for you.
7  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: "House Jewish caucus shrinks, causing worries over influence" on: September 11, 2014, 01:08:41 pm
when was the last time bedstuy did anything related to "co-opting the US state apparatus", other than being Jewish?

hard to say.  there's no evidence either way, so he's presumed innocent.

You did tell me to move to Israel.  Remember?

Meir Kahane told you to move to Israel.
8  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: "House Jewish caucus shrinks, causing worries over influence" on: September 11, 2014, 01:00:21 pm
when was the last time bedstuy did anything related to "co-opting the US state apparatus", other than being Jewish?

hard to say.  there's no evidence either way, so he's presumed innocent.
9  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: opinion of removing your avatar on 9/11 on: September 11, 2014, 12:18:40 pm
I tried to change it to Chile but we don't seem to have it.
10  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: "House Jewish caucus shrinks, causing worries over influence" on: September 11, 2014, 12:14:11 pm
The Israel lobby has done more to fuel anti-Semitic conspiracy theories then anything else I can think of in the past 30 years. I hate to sound like this but the truth of the matter is that the "Jewish lobby" in America has a disproportionate amount of influence over American politics.

These people effectively act as an Israeli "fifth column" within America. They care more about Israel then America. It's gotten to the point where it can't be denied anymore. These people are foreign spies who desire to subvert American foreign policy for their own ends.

Israel shouldn't exist + Go back to your Jew country, Jewboy = Huh

one thing about Meir Kahane that I respect is that he both acknowledged and opposed the Israeli co-opting of the US state apparatus.  "we'll eat tomatoes, we can defend ourselves".  fine, get out of Brooklyn and go do that.  as Kahane did.
11  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Which group of people is worse? on: September 10, 2014, 09:50:22 pm
can it really be demonstrated that anti-GMO activism is directly correlated to world starvation?  as far as I can tell this is more or less an argument put out there by the industry about what could happen should GMO activists get their way.

and most of the focus of the activism is about labeling, not restrictions on 'planting'/agromanufacture, least of all in Africa.  people starve because agribusiness doesn't think it's profitable to sell food to Africans/Indians/whomever, and I doubt that's because said people would be against buying a product labelled GMO.
12  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: I communicated with opebo a few weeks back on: September 10, 2014, 09:17:09 pm
Good to see that he's doing well. Hope the mods will perhaps loosen up sometime in the future, but I don't think it would be much like opebo to ever communicate with them and request a sanctioned return.

it would have to be done through intermediaries.  and Torie would likely demand a humiliating expression of repentance from opebo, O'Brien style, and opebo would have none of that.  I don't believe opebo himself has any interest in attempting to negotiate a return, so it hasn't been on the IPU's radar at all.
13  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: "House Jewish caucus shrinks, causing worries over influence" on: September 10, 2014, 09:13:20 pm
Seriously, the treason bit is a bit much.

read this thing and replace Jews/Israel with say, Russians.  imagine if there were a few dozen Russian-American congressman who formed an unofficial "caucus" across party lines and regularly flew back to Russia to laud the way their gov't was "protecting the Russian people" through its actions in Ukraine.  and imagine these Congressmen took campaign money from the American-Russian Public Affairs Committee and frequented its K Street offices.


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as for the rest, I'll note that I, at least in theory could face the same dangers you do from the "rise of global antsemitism".  I have Jewish ancestry and would have been considered a Jew by the Nazi legal definition.  my borderline hatred for the State of Israel and the role it plays on the world scene is not unrelated to my pseudo-Jewish background.
14  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / "House Jewish caucus shrinks, causing worries over influence" on: September 10, 2014, 08:48:09 pm
http://www.timesofisrael.com/house-jewish-caucus-shrinks-causing-worries-over-influence/

also written about is how Netanyahu's "obviously Republican view of the world" has led to 'diversified' American-Jewish opinion (ie not willing to blindly follow directives coming from the State of Israel)

the whole tone of the article is rather stunning.  if this was any other ethnic group we'd be talking about systematic treason.
15  Forum Community / Forum Community / I communicated with opebo a few weeks back on: September 10, 2014, 07:23:00 pm
hopefully the Mods won't see it as an affront to their cult to pass along some innocent words from the dead.  here was his entire e-mail.

Quote
Hi Boss Tweed,

I'm just fine, thanks for emailing.  Sorry for the very late reply.

I've pretty much forgotten about the forum already, to be honest - very busy here with work, plus the local political situation is fascinating.  I actually know 2-3 people who have been hauled in for 1-5 days of 'attitude readjustment'!  Exciting stuff. 

How're you doing?  Please give my warmest regards to all the old chums.
opebo.


sounds like he's remained at the top of his game.  you should know if you're an "old chum" or not.
16  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Cuomo v. Teachout on: September 10, 2014, 07:13:43 pm
I'm kind of surprised everyone thinks that NYC Dems are all progressives rather than minorities and the working class.

also well-to-do white Bloomberg-Giuliani voters who pat themselves on the back for supporting gay marriage and legal abortion.
17  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Hammer and sickle spray-painted on statue of Confederate general on: September 10, 2014, 07:12:21 pm
You would think the Confederacy lasted longer than 4 years (with control outside of the Deep South less the 2) the way it is depicted Southern lore.

the feudal Southern power structure endured quite a long time.  say from the 1600s through 1865, and from 1877-1965.  in some places, later.
18  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Cuomo v. Teachout on: September 10, 2014, 07:06:36 pm
de Blasio has been a Dem insider for a few decades now.  the lefty-insurgent thing was a marketing tool as the opening was to run to the left of Quinn.  this should've been obvious to anybody paying attention.  it's amazing how teary-eyed progressive Dems can fall victim to the same hoax again and again.

Why don't you capitalize the beginnings of your sentences?  Clearly you know the shift key exists, yet you seem unwilling to use it when starting a new sentence.

it shouldn't be a barrier to communication. beyond that, there's no such thing as a "correct" way to use language.
19  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Cuomo v. Teachout on: September 10, 2014, 07:01:14 pm
de Blasio has been a Dem insider for a few decades now.  the lefty-insurgent thing was a marketing tool as the opening was to run to the left of Quinn.  this should've been obvious to anybody paying attention.  it's amazing how teary-eyed progressive Dems can fall victim to the same hoax again and again.
20  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Cuomo v. Teachout on: September 10, 2014, 11:07:02 am
How many high-profile endorsements will Hawkins get for the general election now? Will Teachout and Wu directly endorse him?

few / no
21  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Cuomo v. Teachout on: September 09, 2014, 11:41:11 pm


if I were the last of the few who always ask
would you still be the same person that I knew
and if it's for me, another boring story
I swear I'll act enthused
22  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: The 2014 primary season ends (Sept. 9: DE, MA, NH, NY, RI) on: September 09, 2014, 10:20:08 pm
could Teachout have won the white vote?
23  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Cuomo v. Teachout on: September 09, 2014, 09:02:06 pm
Why is Teachout doing so much better upstate?  I don't understand it.  Perhaps, it's just how racial and transactional NYC politics tends to be.  If Teachout had unions to do GOTV and some black and Hispanic support, this might be interesting.  Or maybe upstate is boring enough that people have time to read the paper and find out how terrible Cuomo is.

those counties may lack a functioning Dem machine so only nerds who cared showed up to vote.  the numbers are very low.
24  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Cuomo v. Teachout on: September 09, 2014, 08:54:01 pm
Okay something just happened and now Cuomo leads 63-33 again?

I can't figure out where it happened.  a lesson against reacting moment-to-moment with these things.
25  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Cuomo v. Teachout on: September 09, 2014, 08:42:22 pm
Cuomo is now under 60% with his margin continuing to shrink? Is this really happening?

nothing means much until we now what NYC and LI did.  Zephyr winning upstate counties is cute but the numbers are so low it's but an adornment.
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