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1  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Islamic State vs. The World (except Canada) on: Today at 02:28:54 am
Isn't it the fifth one?

The third one the West is fighting against Iraq.

It's the fifth war involving Iraq in my lifetime (Iran-Iraq, Gulf War, Operation Desert Fox, Iraq 2003 and this one)

Obama is the 4th consecutive President to bomb Iraq.

and the pres before him armed Iraq!
2  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Who would win a hot dog eating contest: Bushie or Chris Christie? on: Today at 02:25:18 am
didn't Christie have one of those weight loss surgeries?
3  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: what should be the burden of proof for campus justice system sexual assaults? on: October 01, 2014, 11:52:58 pm
Does the difference in severity between locking a guy up for 20 years, and expelling him from a school, or a marching band, make no difference at all in our willingness to apply remedies?

the standard of proof necessary does not change based on the potential consequences to the accused.  both misdemeanor pot possession and murder call for the same standard of proof in the criminal system.

but, ultimately, it's a silly debate, because it's all about where our sympathies lie.   I'd like to see private power used to further the rights of the accused and due process rights of employees, you might want to see it used to punish individuals who "more likely than not" are rapists.  and the undemocratic institutions, set up for the express purpose of profit, will take the course of action that will be best for their bottom line. degenerated democracy.
4  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: what should be the burden of proof for campus justice system sexual assaults? on: October 01, 2014, 04:13:33 pm
If the potential rapist is tried in a real court and found guilty, kick him out.  If me or someone I loved got raped and the only people punishing the bastard was the school I'm going to be super pissed.  Again, it's beyond stupid that schools do this.  It's fine for things like cheating, maybe even fighting (I'd still rather that get taken care of in a real courtroom), but for serious crimes, it's stupid.

I more or less agree with this.  the problem is that pressure gets placed on institutions other than the state to take action.  see the NFL and Ray Rice/Adrian Peterson: while the state doesn't view these people as too dangerous to be incarcerated, people view the fact that they're allowed (or were allowed) to participate as evidence of the NFL's lack of moral standard.

Bacon King brings up the counter-point:

Okay, organizations with independent executive authority like marching band can basically determine their own membership standards as much as they want, right?
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For smaller groups dealing with these problems internally, fairness isn't really so relevant. It's about the reputation and integrity of the organization,

at its most basic level, this is one of the problems with a heavily privatized society.  power to mess with lives gets placed in Roger Goodell's hands, or the marching band exec's hands, or with the university professor.  at one level, since they act on behalf of private organizations, they can do whatever they want, fairness be damned... yet somehow, we know this isn't the whole story, that private orgs owe something to the public interest, owing to their social function.

public relations is degenerated democracy.  we have these organizations that are crucial to the wider society -- universities and professional football -- that are designed as hierarchical, essentially totalitarian private dictatorships.  yet we demand that they uphold basic standards of "decency" and cry foul when they don't.
5  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: what should be the burden of proof for campus justice system sexual assaults? on: October 01, 2014, 10:44:36 am
  Schools shouldn't be investigating, putting on trials and punishing rapists.  The entire system is stupid beyond words.  Honestly, it was kind of shocking to me when I learned that's how a lot of Unis do things.

Universities shouldn't be allowed to do this.

how should universities go about 'punishing' students then?  obviously they don't conduct trials in the sense of being able to incarcerate anyone or award money from one party to another, but only to suspend or expel or make the accused go to counseling.
6  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: How many detentions and suspensions did you get in high school? on: October 01, 2014, 10:29:33 am
http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=39166
7  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Today is former President Carter's 90th Birthday on: October 01, 2014, 09:58:20 am
He stills seems pretty active and has top of the line care. I could see him living to 100.

If so, then he might stand a good chance of living to see Georgia vote Democrat in a presidential election once again which would be amusing due to the different coalition that Democrats would have in Georgia in 2024-ish compared to 1980. 

Clinton won it in 1992.
8  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Report confirms that FL is still a 3rd world-like state when it comes to voting on: October 01, 2014, 08:50:30 am
23% of Floridian blacks are dq'ed from voting.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/12/felon-voting-laws-disenfranchise-sentencing-project_n_1665860.html
9  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / what should be the burden of proof for campus justice system sexual assaults? on: October 01, 2014, 08:47:48 am
what should be the burden of proof for campus justice system sexual assaults?
10  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Charlie Rangel, still a moron on: October 01, 2014, 08:39:42 am
One thing to keep in mind, most people (75%) of fighting age aren't able to join for various reasons.  Too dumb or too fat/out of shape are the...ahem...big ones.

haha, good find.  that's wonderful news.  I'm pretty out of shape and have a decently long trail of "mental problems", so I might be able to duck the firing line too.
11  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: California Adopts 'Yes Means Yes' Sexual Assault Rule on: September 30, 2014, 09:26:51 pm
I can't believe that having to hear a girl actually say "yes" is such a burden.

my issue wouldn't be with that but with the shift to a preponderance-of-the-evidence standard in the campus justice system.
12  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is season XVII one of the highest quality seasons of Update in a long time? on: September 30, 2014, 08:46:32 pm
Bushie's demented optimism is amazing to me.  he interpreted his getting fired as "another victory" because the boss went about it in a nice way; even during my greatest victories I harbor a sense of crushing defeat.
13  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / chaos at US' oldest Anglican seminary on: September 30, 2014, 08:43:51 pm
it's a tiny school.  the faculty are involved in a serious dispute with the dean.  he appears to be unwilling to meet with them about their concerns and prefers to rule autocratically.  eight members of the faculty (which comprises 2/3 of the full-time faculty) then said that they will refrain from teaching any more classes until they can have a sit-down.  the dean took this to mean that they were resigning, and thus "accepted" the resignation of his entire faculty.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/30/general-theological-seminary_n_5907270.html


the eight dissident professors have opened up a website explaining their side of things.  they contend they are engaged in a "legal work stoppage".  http://www.safeseminary.org/


General Theological Seminary was established in 1817, is located in New York, and has 118 full-time (graduate-level) students.
14  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XVII: I Ate The Strawberry (The REAL, AUTHENTIC Update) on: September 30, 2014, 06:55:46 pm
When I say it will be ending soon, I don't mean anytime in the immediate future.  I believe we are somewhere between 7 and 10 years away.  That's my best guess.  However, the Bible clearly says no one knows the day nor the hour that the Son of man will return, but based on current events especially in Europe and the Middle East, I think we can get an idea.

Since we don't officially know when it's going to end, it is still vital to live life as normal and go out and be a witness to the unbelievers.  Note, in Christianity that is gently, lovingly talking and praying with them.  Parts of Islam is much more forceful and violent to unbelievers.
7 to 10 years? That's extremely soon, not just on a geological time frame, but even in the life of a person . Is that why you live the way you do? I'd probably be up to a lot of crazy shenanigans too if I were convinced there was no need to plan for anything past 2024.  You'd still be the better Updater by far though. I'm more than happy to give you that.

Bushie thinks eternity spans 7000 years.  Only 2014 of them meaningful.  7-10 is a decent chuck of that. 

I'm not sure that he's a doctrinaire YEC.
15  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: First US Ebola case diagnosed in Dallas on: September 30, 2014, 06:07:38 pm
It came from teh illeguls.


(I am fairly far-right on the issue of border security issue, but I can't wait to hear the crazy explanations for how ebola got to Dallas).

I believe I read the guy had a "history of West African travel".  not complicated
16  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: First US Ebola case diagnosed in Dallas on: September 30, 2014, 04:38:01 pm
Wait, somebody else cares about ebola? Tongue

now they will.  Texas is a lot more real to people than Liberia.
17  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: California Adopts 'Yes Means Yes' Sexual Assault Rule on: September 30, 2014, 04:35:18 pm
I'm sure glad all of these drinks and drugs killed my sex drive a long while ago.
18  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update XVII: I Ate The Strawberry (The REAL, AUTHENTIC Update) on: September 30, 2014, 04:33:00 pm
and you almost certainly have something else (six letters, begins with an 'a' ends with an 'm').

you wouldn't be saying this but for Bushie's self-reported ability to recall specific dates (?)
19  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: True Leftism vs. Alan Grayson-style Leftism on: September 30, 2014, 04:30:03 pm
The U.S. labor movement was never really explicitly socialist, and certainly not the one that existed during the passage of the New Deal,

many of the organizers of the 1930s, especially with the CIO, were socialists, and during the Comintern's 'popular front' period many people who were deeply involved with the CPUSA worked within organized labor.  I can point you to an Irving Howe essay if you actually care.  you could also read up on the 1934 strikes in Minneapolis, a heroic and bloody effort led by avowed Trotskyists that ended in the unionization of the trucking industry.
20  General Politics / Economics / which should be the primary strategy for tackling sovereign debt? on: September 30, 2014, 04:25:40 pm
which should be the primary strategy for tackling sovereign debt?
21  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: True Leftism vs. Alan Grayson-style Leftism on: September 30, 2014, 12:41:59 pm
I think Stalin was fairly awful on balance and a key figure in the Soviet Union's degeneration into an imperialist oligarchy (albeit a very different sort than the United States was and is).
what? stalin was comparatively more 'conservative' in the soviet sense than most of his major rivals. look at beria.

once he eliminated Trotsky and the "left" the policies he adopted re: collectivization and industrialization were anything but conservative.  say from 1928-33.
22  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Opinion of Coheed And Cambria? on: September 27, 2014, 09:56:35 pm
never liked them at all, negative
23  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Albums on your computer where you intentionally deleted some tracks? on: September 27, 2014, 09:54:06 pm
I don't do that, but "Enjoy Your Day" from Alkaline Trio's Goddammit is a sh**tstain on an otherwise great album
24  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Michele Bachmann: gay marriage is "not an issue", it's "boring" on: September 27, 2014, 09:51:55 pm
I'd agree with that characterization.  a marginal 'wedge' issue meant to get people riled up and divert attention from questions of political economy.
25  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: is any job beneath you? on: September 27, 2014, 09:46:12 pm
I'd prefer suicide to plenty of jobs, so, perhaps
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