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27751  Questions and Answers / Electoral Reform / Re:Foreign-born President on: February 25, 2004, 08:12:41 am
I think Granholm would win narrowly against Arnold.
27752  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election / Re:Ohio in 2004 on: February 25, 2004, 08:10:09 am
So are Georgia and Indiana.  It seems that Bush may have some trouble winning these states, using up a good bit of his warchest on the 20+15+11=46 EV's that he won last time on the line.
Bush will win GA and IN handily, unless Bayh or Cleland is the VP pick.

Doesn't Bayh have like a 70% approval rating in Indiana?

I can't give you an exact number, but I know he is very popular there.
27753  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election Campaign / Re:Kerry and the media on: February 25, 2004, 08:09:22 am
General Election hypotheticals:

Edwards 52%
Bush 47%

Bush 51%
Kerry 46%
27754  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election / Re:Utah, Hawaii, Idaho Results on: February 25, 2004, 08:06:47 am
I voted for Edwards. Smiley

Good vote there.
27755  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re:What do you think Realpolitik's full name is? on: February 24, 2004, 09:41:49 pm
'Al' will never answer this thread, will he Sad
27756  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re:Could you ever see yourself holding public office? on: February 24, 2004, 09:40:56 pm
Well, I am too liberal to win nationally, but maybe I could win statewide.  I would never be nominated though, being that I never held a steady job, have a shaky police record (bar fights), and never attended college.
27757  Questions and Answers / Electoral Reform / Re:Foreign-born President on: February 24, 2004, 09:39:39 pm
I would support this amendment, I agree with arnold, we live in a more global society today and if you have been a citizen for 20 years, you deserve to have the right to run for president.

PRESIDENT GRANHOLM Tongue
27758  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election Campaign / Re:Kerry and the media on: February 24, 2004, 09:35:54 pm
Edwards is also liberal.  However, Edwards is a far superior candidate to Kerry.  I'm amazed Democrats can't see that.  Hey, I thought you guys were anxious to win.  Edwards would give you a much better chance to do that.  Edwards would be a very tough candidate in the general election.  Glad we don't have to face him.

Well, Edwards is very liberal economically, but is center-left socially.  Kerry's voting record is about 25-30% more liberal than Edwards, according to the national journal.

I'll say it again:  I don't see Bush beating edwards in the general.  I just couldn't see it happening.
27759  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re:Best third party candidate? on: February 24, 2004, 09:30:03 pm
Robert LaFollette


Yes, he was a close second to Anderson.  Let us make a list:

1. John Anderson 1980
2. Robert LaFollette 1924
3. Teddy Roosevelt 1912
4. Ross Perot 1992
5. George Wallace 1968

I hate Wallace, but he was an entertaining speaker, so he gets a spot.

"When Ah'm president I;m gonna gather up all them pointy-headed bur-o-crats and send 'em back to washin'ton where they belong and take all their briefcases and sling 'em into the middle of the Potomac!!!!"
27760  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election / Re:Bush Leads in Georgia by Only 3% on: February 24, 2004, 09:25:13 pm
ha.  mccain ran far behind bush, i menat to say.

Sometimes that happens to me too Cheesy
27761  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election / Re:Ohio in 2004 on: February 24, 2004, 09:24:02 pm
So are Georgia and Indiana.  It seems that Bush may have some trouble winning these states, using up a good bit of his warchest on the 20+15+11=46 EV's that he won last time on the line.
Bush will win GA and IN handily, unless Bayh or Cleland is the VP pick.
27762  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re:president match.com, check it out on: February 24, 2004, 09:21:49 pm
1. Kucinich 100%
2. Kerry 97%
3. Dean 89%
4. Edwards 84%

This shows that Kerry is significanly more liberal than Dean.

Wow, you are a flaming liberal.  Wink

Not as much as you would think.  I am very much opposed to partial birth abortion and very pro-free trade.  Other than that, I am left wing for the most part.

I am against free trade, I believe NAFTA is one of the worst things that America got itself involved in.

Another conservative protectionist like NHPolitico???
27763  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re:president match.com, check it out on: February 24, 2004, 09:06:33 pm
1. Kucinich 100%
2. Kerry 97%
3. Dean 89%
4. Edwards 84%

This shows that Kerry is significanly more liberal than Dean.

Wow, you are a flaming liberal.  Wink

Not as much as you would think.  I am very much opposed to partial birth abortion and very pro-free trade.  Other than that, I am left wing for the most part.
27764  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re:president match.com, check it out on: February 24, 2004, 09:04:42 pm
1. Kucinich 100%
2. Kerry 97%
3. Dean 89%
4. Edwards 84%

This shows that Kerry is significanly more liberal than Dean.
27765  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re:Best third party candidate? on: February 24, 2004, 05:17:49 pm
JOHN ANDERSON 1980.
27766  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election / Re:Bush Leads in Georgia by Only 3% on: February 24, 2004, 05:16:43 pm
MN troy:  i dont remember the specifics of the poll, but i do distinctly remember seeing it.

as for mccain, he didnt catch fire until early in 2000 (sort of like kerry this year).  for much of 1999, mccain ran far behind mccain.

McCain ran far behind McCain??? Smiley
27767  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re:Attention Atlas Republicans and all who care!!! on: February 24, 2004, 05:14:12 pm
That's probably going to last as long as the average AFRNC chairmanship.  Cheesy
27768  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election / Re:Bush Leads in Georgia by Only 3% on: February 24, 2004, 05:09:41 pm
Bush was leading Kerry in Early 2003 in Mass.
27769  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election Campaign / Re:Kerry and the media on: February 24, 2004, 03:33:09 pm
Flip Flop?
Are you referring to the war? If Kerry flip flopped, so did Edwards.  Of course so did "no nation building" Bush

Kerry has flip-flopped on free trade, the war, weapons programs, etc.  I would vote for Kerry, but that said, I really do not like him and I will vote EDWARDS in our primary next week.
 
Is it that Kerry being from Mass. simply makes him more of a liberal?? That's an oversimplification I'd expect from, well...  a R ... no I can't call a fellow Democrat that.

He isn't a liberal because he is from Massachusetts, but he is a liberal with a 95% liberal economic rating (higher than Ted Kennedy's), an 82% social liberal rating, and a 73% foreign liberal rating.  He is a liberal, you cannot argue that.
27770  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election / Re:Is NJ solidly Democratic yet? on: February 24, 2004, 03:28:53 pm
Both Dean and Kerry could win in the election... Since Kerry is going to be the nominee hell win by a lot

Dean can't win, and Kerry could win..but Bush would have to beat himself for Kerry to win.  Edwards could win even if Bush doesn't crap out.
27771  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re:Best 20th century president on: February 24, 2004, 08:10:52 am
It's nice to see FDR jump ahead of Reagan Smiley
27772  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election / Re:Poll: If Cheney is dropped, who..... on: February 24, 2004, 08:08:11 am
Cheney would be a great President if anything ever were to happen to Bush. He would probably win too if he ever ran, which he won't.

No, I doubt he would win, he would lose in Dole-fashion, as old boring conservatives do.  And, I have alot more respect for Dole than I do for Cheney.
27773  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election / Re:kerry's running mate? on: February 24, 2004, 08:04:29 am
What did I do?

Election fraud Cheesy
27774  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election Polls / Re:Edwards creeping closer in NY and CA on: February 24, 2004, 08:03:49 am
We're movin' on up!

All Edwards needs is some mroe time, and he has a week.  If people hear him talk, they become attached to him.
27775  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election Campaign / Re:Kerry and the media on: February 23, 2004, 08:20:18 pm
I just don't see why a good southern Dem like TCash supports flip-flopping Massachusetts liberal Kerry.
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