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27826  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election / Re:Exit Poll Analysis of Wisconsin on: February 18, 2004, 02:06:13 pm
Miami,

If you're right, then our time as a nation is nearing an end and the free world is in serious peril. The threat posed by international terrorism is FAR MORE severe than any threat posed during the Cold War. If you and others can't see it, then I guess we're doomed.
More people die from smoking, heart attacks, the flu, etc. than the amount of people who die from 'tirrir'.  Lets put some of that military budget into ending world hunger, which would cost about $20,000,000,000.  the military budget is about.... $399,000,000,000.
27827  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election / Re:Ohio in 2004 on: February 18, 2004, 02:03:57 pm
Nader deserves death for the deaths of american soldiers and Iraqi citizens that he is directly repsonsible for.
27828  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election / Re:Ohio in 2004 on: February 18, 2004, 02:01:58 pm
I would shoot Ralph Nader in the skull if somebody provided the gun.

Because of that little remark, you just cost Kerry a vote.

I'm voting Green again.
Good, be a stupid idiot and vote for Nader.
27829  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election / Re:Dem. Vice President on: February 18, 2004, 02:01:01 pm
1. Bayh
2. Edwards
3. Nelson
4. Bredesen
5. Richardson

Bayh doesn't want it.
Not true; Bayh said he doesn't want the presidency because it woudl take him away from his family for 2 whole years, but being VP is a 'different story', in Bayh's own words.
27830  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election / Re:Exit Poll Analysis of Wisconsin on: February 18, 2004, 02:00:07 pm
Miami,

How many WOULD have occured in the US with a Democratic administration that treated 9/11 as a Criminal Justice Matter?

How many terrorist attacks continue all around the world?

As for your claim of no attacks against the US in 8 years before 9/11...I guess the USS Cole doesn't count as a US interest, or the Khobar Towers, or the Embassy in Africa...

Do other Democrats share your view that the terrorist threat is not that severe? If that's the case, this election is even MORE important than I thought, and I was pretty certain it was damn near a matter of life and death before we started this conversation.
Americans care as much about terrorist attacks away from the homeland as the rich care about the poor.
27831  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election / Re:Dem. Vice President on: February 18, 2004, 01:59:15 pm
I would take edwards. may be  he could take one or two states in the south.
No, he can't.  Kerry doesn't have a chance in the south no matter the VP, which is why I take Bayh.  The midwestern moderate strategy.
27832  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election / Re:Ohio in 2004 on: February 18, 2004, 01:58:00 pm
I would shoot Ralph Nader in the skull if somebody provided the gun.
27833  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re:Do you believe in God? on: February 18, 2004, 01:57:10 pm
i before e except after C?  Maybe not
27834  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re:Do you believe in God? on: February 18, 2004, 01:54:15 pm
I don't.  
For once, we agree Smiley
80% of athiests voted Gore in 2000...not many Bushies among us atheists.

Belief in atheism increased by 25% in the last year!  Atheist majority!
27835  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election / Re:Ohio in 2004 on: February 18, 2004, 01:51:30 pm
I regard Bush as a rogue dictator anyway - especially after what happened in Florida in 2000.

Maybe I should mention how when he came to Covington, KY, in July 2000, his followers physically attacked Nader supporters by ripping signs out of their hands.
Go away and shut up.
27836  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election / Re:Can Kerry win Nevada against bush? on: February 18, 2004, 01:51:03 pm
I think both the Kerry campaign and the Bush camapign should drop the crap about what happened 30 years ago.  It was Kerry's right to protest Vietnam; leave it alone.  And, the Dems aren't going to help themeselves with the national guard crap.
27837  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election / Re:Dem. Vice President on: February 18, 2004, 01:48:51 pm
1. Bayh
2. Edwards
3. Nelson
4. Bredesen
5. Richardson
27838  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election / Re:Ohio in 2004 on: February 18, 2004, 01:48:15 pm
I maintain my prediction that Kerry will narrowly win Ohio.

The way the primaries are going Kerry might not have enough money if he wins.  If that happens Bush will slaughter him.
Kerry opted out of public financing, so he'll be okay.  He won't have as much as Bush, but he'll be okay.
27839  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election / Re:Exit Poll Analysis of Wisconsin on: February 18, 2004, 01:47:39 pm
Miami,

Yes, but you are ignoring one HUGE factor. The "fear" Bush is running on is real. I think those were real people who jumped out of the burning World Trade Centers, not that anyone in your party seems to remember 9/11.
That fear is exaggerated.  How many terrorist attacks on the USA since 9-11?  None.  Hw any in the 8 years before 9-11?  None.  All bush is running on is fear.  Did you hear his speech yesterday?  All he ever said was 'tirrir' and 'tirrirists'.
27840  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election / Re:Ohio in 2004 on: February 18, 2004, 01:45:37 pm
I maintain my prediction that Kerry will narrowly win Ohio.
27841  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election / Re:Exit Poll Analysis of Wisconsin on: February 18, 2004, 01:44:55 pm
Another funny thing from the Wisconsin exit poll is that Dean actually did better among pro-war voters than he did with anti-war voters.  This might be the Republicans-for-Dean-because-he-is-the-weakest effect.
27842  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election / Re:2004 User Predictions - Discussion on: February 18, 2004, 01:40:38 pm
Zogby's polls are usually inaccurate, and they lean left.
27843  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election / Re:Ohio in 2004 on: February 18, 2004, 01:39:24 pm
I think Bush will win with five percent in Ohio.
I think you mean 'by' 5%..wining with only 5% would be a big accomplishment Smiley

I think faster then I type.
That's good to know.
Where have you been?  You've been gone for 2 months.
27844  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election / Re:Ohio in 2004 on: February 18, 2004, 01:38:01 pm
I think Bush will win with five percent in Ohio.
I think you mean 'by' 5%..wining with only 5% would be a big accomplishment Smiley
27845  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election / Re:Ohio in 2004 on: February 18, 2004, 01:36:58 pm
Bush wins here, but it could be close.

By the way, why can't I vote in the poll? I didn't vote ye, but it does not come up as an option for me.
Me too, I can't vote.  Maybe he locked the poll.
27846  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election / Re:Exit Poll Analysis of Wisconsin on: February 18, 2004, 01:36:31 pm
Miami,

Bush would have no chance against Edwards??? That's a laughable statement. Edwards IS a stronger candidate than Kerry, but no chance??? Come on...
Edwards is the only Dem running on a positive message.  It would be a likeable southerner with a positive message v. a Texan runnng a campaign based on fear.  I don't see it as much of a race.
27847  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election / Re:Exit Poll Analysis of Wisconsin on: February 18, 2004, 01:33:52 pm
Dean tied for the lead among those who idenified themselves as 'very conservative.'  Lol...

But Edwards did very well among those who identified themselves as either independents or Republicans, so this just solidifies the idea that edwards is the best candidate.

I'll say it again: Bush would have no chance against edwards.
27848  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election / Re:Can Kerry win Nevada against bush? on: February 18, 2004, 01:29:47 pm
He can, but it leans Bush.  People there are mad about Yucca Mountain.
27849  Election Archive / 2004 U.S. Presidential Election / Re:2004 User Predictions - Discussion on: February 18, 2004, 01:29:08 pm
That makes the map look like this:



But, Polls have shown Kerru ahead in VT and WA, plus big leads for generic democrats in WI and MI, so the acuracy of the poll isn't all that great.
27850  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re:Community descriptions on: February 18, 2004, 11:57:54 am
Liberals and Conservative, alike, at the top could give a flying crap about the other 99% of people in the country.
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