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26  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Haiti to join African Union on: May 18, 2016, 09:07:18 am
Will Greenland join Canada?
27  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Democratic KY / OR primary results thread (first polls close at 6pm ET) on: May 17, 2016, 10:38:10 pm
As far as delegates go, if Washington had stuck with its primary (instead of a caucus), would the results have been as close as we are seeing in Oregon?    
28  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Democratic KY / OR primary results thread (first polls close at 6pm ET) on: May 17, 2016, 07:48:20 pm
The vote is tightening again -should we expect a recount?
29  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Democratic KY / OR primary results thread (first polls close at 6pm ET) on: May 17, 2016, 07:38:14 pm
Huffpo shows that most of the precincts still out are in counties Hillary is leading in (including Jefferson).  It looks like a done deal.

Thank goodness -the Solid South has held!  
30  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Democratic KY / OR primary results thread (first polls close at 6pm ET) on: May 17, 2016, 06:54:29 pm
Sanders' vote lead back to about a thousand.
31  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Democratic KY / OR primary results thread (first polls close at 6pm ET) on: May 17, 2016, 06:49:02 pm
Numbers now suggest Clinton over the top.

CNN still has Sanders with a 600 vote lead with half of the vote in. 
32  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Democratic KY / OR primary results thread (first polls close at 6pm ET) on: May 17, 2016, 06:41:42 pm
Given his record thus far, I can't blame Sanders for wanting to stay in until every state (and territory) has had its say.  It looks like he may make a clean sweep through May if he carries Kentucky (as he has already taken Indiana).  
33  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Democratic KY / OR primary results thread (first polls close at 6pm ET) on: May 17, 2016, 06:34:40 pm
Sanders currently has a three thousand vote lead, with more than 40% of the vote in.
34  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Democratic KY / OR primary results thread (first polls close at 6pm ET) on: May 17, 2016, 06:29:37 pm
Somebody please tell Kornacki how to pronounce Louisville.

How do you pronounce it? Most people I know from that area say LOO-uh-vull, but I've also heard one person pronounce it LOW-vull.

I always said 'Lewey-ville' -after all, isn't that how we usually pronounce the name of the French king?  

35  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Democratic KY / OR primary results thread (first polls close at 6pm ET) on: May 17, 2016, 06:26:22 pm
Just about even now with a third of the vote in....  
36  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Evil or Not: Donald Trump on: May 17, 2016, 11:54:04 am
He is as evil as Lee Atwater -though not even half as smart. 

Not evil. He loves all people and he is peaceloving.

Now I know you're an ironic Trump supporter.  Smiley
37  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Hypothetically, if Jeb! was the nominee, how would he have done with Hispanics? on: May 16, 2016, 09:49:30 pm
I think 35-40% would not be at all unreasonable for Jeb. His wife is a first-generation Mexican immigrant, he speaks good Spanish and he's a true moderate on immigration. He even converted to Catholicism... Things like calling illegal immigration an "act of love" will sink you in a Republican primary, but in the general, it makes it a lot easier to bring in independents. He certainly would have done better than token Hispanics like Rubio and Cruz who basically look down on other Hispanics.

If he made an effort he could easily have gotten around 40% or more. He would have needed to campaign in Spanish, and make it clear that he considers immigration reform very important and is willing to act on it. If he did that, he could have gained around 45% of the vote. If he did not, but just sounded more sympathetic to Hispanics than Republicans have recently, than a couple of strategically given interviews in Spanish could have easily gained him around 30%-35%.

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God bless the Republican primary electorate for nominating Donald Trump then.  With the GOP doubling down on its white nationalist base, we're going to see just how many white voters Mitt Romney actually 'missed' in 2012.  
38  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Politico: Is Bernie Sanders Becoming the Ralph Nader of 2016? on: May 16, 2016, 12:06:54 pm
Is Sanders 2016 Becoming Nader 2000?
How Bernie could cost Hillary the election.


By Bill Scher
May 16, 2016


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Bernie Sanders, for all his talk of revolution, never wanted to be Ralph Nader. He has a long history of keeping the Democratic Party at arm’s length, but he also has a long history of rejecting spoiler bids. Since 1992, he has always endorsed the Democratic presidential nominee, snubbing Nader’s four left-wing third-party campaigns. He became a Democrat to run for president instead of keeping his “(I)” and following in Nader’s footsteps. He has pledged to support Hillary Clinton if she wins the Democratic nomination and has ripped Donald Trump at every opportunity.

But even if Sanders isn’t deliberately trying to replicate the electoral trauma inflicted by Nader in 2000—when he probably cost Al Gore the presidency—Bernie’s lingering presence in the Democratic primary threatens to produce a similar result in November: delegitimizing the eventual Democratic nominee in the eyes of the left and sending many critics, if not to Trump, then to the Green Party’s Jill Stein or the Libertarian Party’s Gary Johnson.

In the first poll to assess the impact of third-party candidates, Public Policy Polling found last week that the inclusion of Stein and Johnson shaves 2 percentage points off Clinton’s lead over Trump.

Conversely, the minor party duo loses a combined 2 points when Sanders is tested as the Democratic nominee, indicating that Sanders’ voters account for Clinton’s reduced standing.

A couple points, a couple million voters, is no big deal to Clinton if she’s trouncing Trump. But if he makes it a race, Democrats may find their political post-traumatic stress disorder from 2000 flaring up.

And while Clinton would be the most enraged if she suffers Gore’s fate, it is not in Sanders’ interest to join Nader on the Democratic Party’s unofficial Wall of Shame. His ultimate goal is to remake the party in his progressive populist image. He can’t do that if his name is uttered by rank-and-file Democrats only when seething.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/05/is-sanders-2016-becoming-nader-2000-213893#ixzz48q6bYrlP
39  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Hillary Clinton says she’ll put Bill in charge of economic revitalization on: May 16, 2016, 12:25:15 am
The guy who gave us NAFTA, repeal of Glass Steagall, welfare reform, and telecommunications deregulation? HELL NO!

At least Monica Lewinsky saved Social Security.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2004/10/30/how-monica-lewinsky-saved-social-security/

Bill needs to spend more time hanging out with his pedophile buddies, and less time destroying this country.

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Take some time off from this forum.  It looks like you need it. 
40  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Even supporters agree: Clinton has weaknesses as a candidate. What can she do? on: May 16, 2016, 12:20:26 am
Pick an inspirational vice-presidential candidate (guess who).  In normal years, it wouldn't make much difference, but given the likely presidential nominees, this year has already been proven unique.  
41  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Big Three US Airlines on: May 14, 2016, 05:41:16 pm
I pay extra just to avoid them when flying international.  

42  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Airplane seating on: May 14, 2016, 05:38:43 pm
Economy/Coach like everyone else, and when I do manage to get a window seat, I try to make sure it is nowhere near the wings.  

I don't always succeed.  Tongue
43  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of West Virginia on: May 14, 2016, 10:57:23 am
PPP, West Virginia. President Obama gets only 28% approval there.

WV is a cesspool.

I wrote a little essay -- What is wrong with West Virginia?

The state came to rely heavily upon one industry (coal) and was ill-prepared for its demise. All extractive industries eventually go belly-up. The state failed to invest in schools and roads. This was when the Democrats ran the state and utterly dominated statewide politics.

When things fell apart, they really fell apart, and the Republicans got to take over quickly.

Michigan had much the same problem with the auto industry, and the state really is a cesspool in politics and economics. Unlike West Virginia, Michigan has a fairly-strong agricultural sector and tourist trade. Also, unlike West Virginia, the state used to be slightly R when the auto business started to decline.

If Republicans can turn West Virginia around (I am not sure if that is even possible), I'll tip my hat to them.  
44  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Clinton moves to defend Rust Belt blue states (MI/WI/PA/OH) on: May 14, 2016, 12:12:37 am
Guys, I am exaggerating a bit. Smiley

But the fact remains. As I have told you so many times in the last ten or so months, Hillary has problems connecting with the working class voters and Trump has a strong appeal to them.
In fact, his appeal is not limited to just white working class.

That's why all these states are competitive and true battlegrounds and you will see that the general election map will change this time around, particularly if Trump manages to win the election.


Let's see how well his appeal to them holds up when they hear what he thinks about unions, and how he has dealt with them as a business tycoon.  
45  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Pfizer Strikes Blow Against the Death Penalty on: May 13, 2016, 11:11:56 pm
Pfizer Blocks the Use of Its Drugs in Executions

By ERIK ECKHOLM
MAY 13, 2016


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The pharmaceutical giant Pfizer announced on Friday that it had imposed sweeping controls on the distribution of its products to ensure that none are used in lethal injections, a step that closes off the last remaining open-market source of drugs used in executions.

More than 20 American and European drug companies have already adopted such restrictions, citing either moral or business reasons. Nonetheless, the decision from one of the world’s leading pharmaceutical manufacturers is seen as a milestone.

“With Pfizer’s announcement, all F.D.A.-approved manufacturers of any potential execution drug have now blocked their sale for this purpose,” said Maya Foa, who tracks drug companies for Reprieve, a London-based human rights advocacy group. “Executing states must now go underground if they want to get hold of medicines for use in lethal injection.”

The obstacles to lethal injection have grown in the last five years as manufacturers, seeking to avoid association with executions, have barred the sale of their products to corrections agencies. Experiments with new drugs, a series of botched executions and covert efforts to obtain lethal chemicals have mired many states in court challenges.

The mounting difficulty in obtaining lethal drugs has already caused states to furtively scramble for supplies.

Some states have used straw buyers or tried to import drugs from abroad that are not approved by the Food and Drug Administration, only to see them seized by federal agents. Some have covertly bought supplies from loosely regulated compounding pharmacies while others, including Arizona, Oklahoma and Ohio, have delayed executions for months or longer because of drug shortages or legal issues tied to injection procedures.

A few states have adopted the electric chair, firing squad or gas chamber as an alternative if lethal drugs are not available. Since Utah chooses to have a death penalty, “we have to have a means of carrying it out,” said State Representative Paul Ray as he argued last year for authorization of the firing squad.
46  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Clinton supporters, are you scared that Hillary will blow it? on: May 13, 2016, 05:13:10 pm
She'll do just fine. 
47  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Clinton & Trump VP search news LATEST: Trump says he has women on his list on: May 13, 2016, 05:10:43 pm

While I have advocated Elizabeth Warren as Hillary's running-mate, I admit I wasn't sure whether she wanted the role, or whether Hillary would be comfortable with her.

This quote goes a long way in allaying my fears:

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In conversations with other top Democrats and close advisers to Clinton, it’s clear that Warren’s stock is rising. One Clinton adviser, who described himself as part of “Team Warren,” said that the idea had plenty of internal support and that the assumption Clinton doesn’t like Warren personally is incorrect.

“Having been around Hillary when Elizabeth is talked about, there’s not much — she doesn’t have bad feelings toward Elizabeth. It’s more that she’s frustrated that people don’t realize that she’s been championing these issues her whole life, too,” the adviser said. 

Moreover, the timing of Warren’s attacks on Trump is being interpreted as a sign that she, too, is interested in the gig. Warren notably declined to rule out serving as Clinton’s VP in a recent interview with Mic.
48  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: "When did Optimism become Uncool" (media ignoring the good news, focus on bad) on: May 12, 2016, 11:46:06 pm
It's not as if the pervasive pessimism we see around us is entirely manufactured, though, when you consider how the middle class (and its earning power) has shrunk over the years, which the recent recession (and slow recovery) has laid bare for all to see.  
49  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: What is Hillary Clinton's ideology? on: May 12, 2016, 11:38:46 pm
The embodiment of the mainstream of the Democratic Party with a healthy dose of pragmatism.

50  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Process / GOP Sets Out to Prevent Another Donald Trump in 2020 on: May 12, 2016, 08:15:31 pm
And if they get their way, open primaries (at least for the Republican Party) will become a thing of the past:

'Never (Again) Trump' sets sights on 2020:
Grassroots conservatives and party leadership are finding a common cause: Limiting Republican primaries to registered Republican voters.


By Kyle Cheney
05/12/16 06:03 PM EDT


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Conservatives, still reeling over the looming nomination of Donald Trump, are pushing new Republican primary rules that might have prevented the mogul’s victory in the first place: shutting out independents and Democrats from helping to pick the GOP nominee.

Trump romped in “open primaries” where non-Republicans voted by the thousands and may have influenced the outcome — especially in early states that set the tone of the entire race. Trump’s most successful rival, Ted Cruz, thrived in states with closed primaries where only Republicans were permitted to participate.

Now, Cruz’s allies — hundreds of supportive convention delegates that he helped elect — hope to use the national convention in Cleveland to shove states toward closing their open primaries. And if they’re successful, it will not only go a long way toward warding off a Trump-like candidacy, it will tilt the primary toward conservative candidates in 2020 and beyond.

The advocates are finding a sympathetic ear at the very top of the party. Republican National Committee chairman Reince Priebus has long supported closed primaries, but has never had a constituency to back him on it. "I believe that only Republicans should vote in Republican primaries," he said Friday at a Politico Playbook breakfast event, though he added that he respects the right of states to set their own primary rules.

For the conservatives, Trump’s path through the Republican primary is proof that the system needs to change.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/republican-primary-rules-donald-trump-223136#ixzz48Ugtdoow
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