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26  General Politics / International General Discussion / Everyone is Fleeing Venezuela on: November 26, 2016, 01:50:02 am
Socialism has failed them utterly:

Hungry Venezuelans Flee in Boats to Escape Economic Collapse

By NICHOLAS CASEY
NOV. 25, 2016

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(...) Venezuela was once one of Latin America’s richest countries, flush with oil wealth that attracted immigrants from places as varied as Europe and the Middle East.

But after President Hugo Chávez vowed to break the country’s economic elite and redistribute wealth to the poor, the rich and middle class fled to more welcoming countries in droves, creating what demographers describe as Venezuela’s first diaspora.

Now a second diaspora is underway — much less wealthy and not nearly as welcome.

Well over 150,000 Venezuelans have fled the country in the last year alone, the highest in more than a decade, according to scholars studying the exodus.

And as Mr. Chávez’s Socialist-inspired revolution collapses into economic ruin, as food and medicine slip further out of reach, the new migrants include the same impoverished people that Venezuela’s policies were supposed to help.

“We have seen a great acceleration,” said Tomás Páez, a professor who studies immigration at the Central University of Venezuela. He says that as many as 200,000 Venezuelans have left in the past 18 months, driven by how much harder it is to get food, work and medicine — not to mention the crime that such scarcities have fueled.

“Parents will say, ‘I would rather say goodbye to my son in the airport than in the cemetery,’ ” he said.

Desperate Venezuelans are streaming across the Amazon Basin by the tens of thousands to reach Brazil. They are concocting elaborate scams to sneak through airports in Caribbean nations that once accepted them freely. When Venezuela opened its border with Colombia for just two days in July, 120,000 people poured across, simply to buy food, officials said. An untold number stayed.

But perhaps most startling are the Venezuelans now fleeing by sea, an image so symbolic of the perilous journeys to escape Cuba or Haiti — but not oil-rich Venezuela.
27  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Which Bill Clinton accomplishment is your favorite? on: November 26, 2016, 01:33:29 am
The Family & Medical Leave Act, as well as his establishment of the state Children's Health Insurance Program (Hillary's idea in the wake of the failure of a much broader health care bill).

And let's not forget the Northern Ireland Peace Accord as his greatest foreign policy accomplishment.

And I would have included the signing of the Oslo Accords in 1993 if Yasser Arafat had the good sense in signing a peace agreement between the Palestinian Authority and Israel in 2000, which was the last best chance for a two-state solution.  
28  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Fidel Castro dead at 90 on: November 26, 2016, 12:57:59 am
When Raul Castro follows his brother into oblivion (he's 88, right?), perhaps that might entice Congress into repealing trade sanctions against Cuba. 
29  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / GOP Future as the Party of Industrial Capitalism? on: November 25, 2016, 06:34:05 pm
This is well worth the read:

The GOP’s Future Is as the Party of Industry
Republicans have a chance to reshape American politics by offering a program for an industrial economy.


by MICHAEL LIND   
November 25, 2016 4:00 AM


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Donald Trump won the presidency in an upset victory largely because of his appeal to the white working class in a number of industrial states that have been reliably Democratic for years. His denunciations of Chinese mercantilism and U.S. transnational corporations that offshore jobs to low-wage countries resonated strongly in the parts of the South and the Midwest where most U.S. manufacturing is concentrated — while shocking defenders of the bipartisan orthodoxy in favor of unrestricted globalization and mass immigration. Trump’s astonishing success shows the potential in American politics for a party of industry.

(...) What if there were a party or movement in the United States that championed modern, large-scale, corporate-industrial capitalism rather than simply assuming its health or denouncing it as evil? A movement that championed American industrial capitalism would differ in significant ways from the anti-corporate Left and the libertarian Right.

Because of increasing returns to scale and high costs of entry, such industries as consumer electronics, aerospace, and automobiles tend to be dominated by a few huge, dynamic firms at a global as well as a national level. Both nation-states and their provincial sub-units compete to be the sites of high-value-added suppliers in regional and global supply chains coordinated by these oligopolistic global firms. From this fact, two things follow.

The first is that the neoliberal idea of writing neutral rules for world trade, enforced by states that are strictly indifferent to whether particular industries are located within their borders, is not so much wrong as anachronistic, when a growing share of what is called international trade actually consists of transfers of components across borders for assembly by a single transnational corporation.

The second implication is that the distinction between trade and domestic economic policy collapses, replaced by a single concept familiar to state and local governments: “economic development.” In a global economy in which the comparative advantage of nations is replaced by what might be called their “competitive attractiveness,” the American federal government must start thinking like a U.S. state government. But this is only the beginning. An American party of industrial capitalism would evaluate domestic policies according to whether, in addition to achieving their stated goals, they helped or hurt the science-based, capital-intensive tradable-goods sector:

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/442451/republican-party-industry-manufacturing
30  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: The last movie you've seen thread 2016 on: November 25, 2016, 01:01:20 am
I'm planning on seeing 'Assassin's Creed' as soon as it comes out, and to see if it's as good (or better) as those you-tube movies that players of the game uploaded to the internet. 
31  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: The last movie you've seen thread 2016 on: November 19, 2016, 01:22:45 am
Has anyone here seen 'Loving', a movie depicting the couple that brought down state miscegenation laws with Loving vs. Virginia?

What did you think of it? 

32  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: A new species of bird has been discovered.......... on: November 19, 2016, 01:18:45 am
This post is actually rather funny -and creative.

Well done. 
33  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Maryland 2018 on: November 19, 2016, 12:55:10 am
If Gov. Larry Hogan is re-elected in 2018, he will have significant influence over the 2020 redistricting cycle.  With his veto power, what's the likelihood that the 6th congressional district in western Maryland be redrawn back to what it was before Democrats in the legislature gerrymandered it to include Montgomery County?  
34  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: 2020 Democratic Nomination Poll (November 2016) on: November 19, 2016, 12:42:45 am
What does everyone think about a Kamala Harris/John Bel Edwards ticket? 
35  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Would Elizabeth Warren make a strong candidate? on: November 16, 2016, 08:04:19 pm
Quite honestly she's better served remaining in the Senate -she can do a lot more good than risking her reputation on a presidential run.  In retrospect, Hillary Clinton should probably have done the same. 
36  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Democrats will lose in 2020 on: November 16, 2016, 03:15:25 pm
If Dick Morris predicts the same, will you then change your mind?
37  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Rate how well you think Trump will do in his 4 or 8 years. on: November 16, 2016, 03:01:06 pm
I think Donald Trump will be successful pushing his tax cut/reform plans through Congress and pairing them with a massive infrastructure bill, massively increasing Defense Dept spending (the most since the 1980s), well as stacking the courts with conservative judges and justices, giving the Federalist Society  the most power and influence it's ever had since George W. Bush left office.

Beyond that, I'm doubtful whether he will have any further accomplishments.
38  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Should the Democratic Party disavow identity politics? on: November 16, 2016, 02:51:49 pm
I think the whole thing about white people being racist is pissing white people off. Just stop it already. Its sort of like Republicans saying bad things about Hispanics. They did stop doing that until Trump came along.

I understand it's human nature to not like to be called out as a bigot, but hey, if the shoe fits...
39  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump's Democratic Cabinet Members on: November 16, 2016, 02:25:29 pm
Joe Manchin for the Interior Dept?
40  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: New Senate Dem Leaders: A New Yorker, a Socialist, a Lesbian and a man from WV on: November 16, 2016, 01:13:36 pm
No more identity politics or tokenism. We are a party of ideas, whether they come from three black dudes, three blond haired evangelicals, or a jew, gay, and an evangelical.

Why is it the only people who don't want our political life to be defined by 'identity politics' tend to be white males?  Has anyone ever wondered about that?
41  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Democrats will lose in 2020 on: November 16, 2016, 01:08:02 pm
Why not?
I'm not very hopeful for the future of a divided party that can't win against an imbecile. I don't foresee a bright future for the party.

Hopefully I'm wrong, but I think this country is moving in a decidedly authoritarian and nationalist path that will leave many minorities and some conservatives behind.

You sound about as overwrought as my father who is foreseeing that we are about to see a return to the late 19th century as our social safety net is peeled back.
42  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: New Senate Dem Leaders: A New Yorker, a Socialist, a Lesbian and a man from WV on: November 16, 2016, 01:05:25 pm
This leadership team essentially ticks all the boxes of the Democratic Party coalition, save racial minorities. I think it's a good team and it will benefit the Democratic Party immensely to have such a diversity of views and backgrounds represented.

This -and we better get moving on electing racial minorities to the Senate.  It's a travesty that the only African American and Latino senators in the chamber happen to be conservative Republicans.
Corey Booker?
Bob Menendez? And Catherine Cortez-Masto?


It's a good start -let's get more so that our Senate caucus starts to look more like America.
43  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: New Senate Dem Leaders: A New Yorker, a Socialist, a Lesbian and a man from WV on: November 16, 2016, 01:01:35 pm
This leadership team essentially ticks all the boxes of the Democratic Party coalition, save racial minorities. I think it's a good team and it will benefit the Democratic Party immensely to have such a diversity of views and backgrounds represented.

This -and we better get moving on electing racial minorities to the Senate.  It's a travesty that the only African American and Latino senators in the chamber happen to be conservative Republicans.
Corey Booker?

Forgot about him -he is so light skinned (like congressman George Butterfield) that I overlooked the fact that he's black.
44  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: New Senate Dem Leaders: A New Yorker, a Socialist, a Lesbian and a man from WV on: November 16, 2016, 12:55:55 pm
This leadership team essentially ticks all the boxes of the Democratic Party coalition, save racial minorities. I think it's a good team and it will benefit the Democratic Party immensely to have such a diversity of views and backgrounds represented.

This -and we better get moving on electing racial minorities to the Senate.  It's a travesty that the only African American and Latino senators in the chamber happen to be conservative Republicans.
45  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Should the Democratic Party disavow identity politics? on: November 16, 2016, 12:06:01 pm
Ideally, race would be eliminated completely except on a case by case basis. For example, if there is a racially motivated shooting, address it. But at the same time, don't blame all whites/all cops/all blacks for the problem.

The issue of wealth inequality transcends racial boundaries. I would like to see the Democratic Party become the voice for all the little guys - whether said guy is a poor white in Appalchia; or whether said little guy is a black man living in an inner city. This election seemed like the party said 'we don't need that white guy from Appalachia. He's a deplorable, irredeemable person who has white privilege.' In this sound bite culture, that's what that guy heard via the media, and so voted Trump. I want a more Socialistic Democratic Party that is a 'rainbow coalition' at heart, whose values economically range somewhere from Eisenhower to FDR. I don't want Lena Dunham, who gleefully talked about 'the extinction of white males' having any place in the party.

Continuing down the 'Demonize Whites' path is only going to give the GOP more free votes, and create a more divided country.

I agree we shouldn't demonize white voters, but let's not blame our nominee's background (whether it's gender, race, religion, or whatever) for our misfortune with the WWC.

Of course, if it turns out that that a WWC voter was bigoted enough to vote against our nominee because of his or her background, I'm not about to bend over backwards for them.
46  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Should the Democratic Party disavow identity politics? on: November 16, 2016, 11:05:43 am
Only if you don't have a problem throwing women and minorities under the bus in some misguided and morally bankrupt attempt to attract the WWC.

It's less 'throw minorities and women under the bus' and more 'don't totally alienate the WWC.' I know many Dems who voted for Trump this year, after voting for Obama, who felt the Democratic Party had abandoned them.

Nominating a white male isn't going to bring them back.  And we have had white males in the White House (and as our nominees) for all but eight years, so I'm really not seeing why they feel they need someone to represent them when they have had a monopoly on our politics for like forever.
47  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Should the Democratic Party disavow identity politics? on: November 16, 2016, 10:57:18 am
Only if you don't have a problem throwing women and minorities under the bus in some misguided and morally bankrupt attempt to attract the WWC.
48  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: President Trump vs. Sen. Kamala Harris on: November 16, 2016, 09:07:40 am
Harris is overrated and only appeals to urban liberals. You need to combine Bernie's social democratism, to JBE's southern speaking style and appeal, with someone like Jon Tester, Stephyn Lynch to get a candidate that can appeal to every day Americans, and working class

Everyone one of whom is a white male.  I thought we're supposed to be foreswearing 'identity politics', or does that only apply to women and minorities?
49  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Should the Democratic Party disavow identity politics? on: November 16, 2016, 01:39:43 am
Yes -we should disabuse ourselves of the notion that we can win back the white working class by nominating another white male candidate.
50  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump will be my president on: November 16, 2016, 01:24:24 am
As easy as it is for liberals and Democrats to deplore Donald Trump for his treatment of women and his links to white supremacists, we need to clean our own house first.  It's an open secret that Bernie Bros are just as racist and misogynistic as Trump's supporters, though they try to hide their bigotry by cloaking it (very thinly) through deploring 'identity politics' whenever someone who isn't a white male (aka, Bernie Sanders) is suggested for the 2020 nomination.

Though perhaps that's too harsh -I'll call them blatant hypocrites, instead, with a double standard that anyone with eyes can see straight through.

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