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26  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Two Thousand Sixteen or Twenty Sixteen by Party on: September 14, 2016, 10:25:12 pm
I stopped saying 'two-thousand and.......' after December 31, 2009.  Since then, it's been 'twenty-....' ever since. 
27  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: I'm disgusted with the media on: September 14, 2016, 10:14:02 pm
The American people agree with you:

28  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2015 & Odd Year Gubernatorial Election Polls / Re: VA 2017 (PPP) - Northam/Gillespie tie, Northam leads other republicans on: September 14, 2016, 08:22:18 am
Looks encouraging, but I fully expect polls to tighten and become more GOP-friendly when the 2017 political season really gets going. 
29  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Republican Defectors to Have a Place in Hillary Clinton's Administration on: September 14, 2016, 08:08:49 am
Remember when Barack Obama promised in 2008 a bipartisan approach to governing?  It seems Hillary Clinton could actually fulfill that promise:

Clinton’s GOP supporters expect something in return
Conservatives who abandoned Trump see jobs, access and influence over policy as the reward.

By Darren Samuelsohn
09/14/16 05:15 AM EDT

Republicans backing Hillary Clinton want history to reflect they didn’t help Donald Trump win the White House. But that’s not the only reason they’re bucking their party’s line.

Access, appointments and influence over a Clinton administration’s policies is the just dessert that a growing slate of conservative policy wonks, Capitol Hill veterans and former GOP administration officials say they expect for endorsing and in some cases raising money for the Democratic presidential nominee.

And they’re already getting it. From messaging help delivered by Clinton’s communications team to direct and regular access to senior staffers and in-person meetings to discuss policy and strategy, Republicans who have abandoned Trump say the Democrat has given every indication that the GOP view will be reflected in her administration.

After she is sworn in, these Republicans say, they expect positions in a Clinton administration that go beyond the one or two seats that are typically reserved for opposition party experts in any White House that aims to win bipartisan support and cast itself as a solutions-oriented bridge-building operation. Indeed, while Barack Obama hired Robert Gates and Ray LaHood to run his first-term Defense and Transportation departments and George W. Bush tapped Norman Mineta to lead the DOT, many Republicans this cycle envision GOP voices sprinkled throughout the upper echelon of a Democratic administration.

“It wouldn’t just be in token positions,” said Chris Shays, a former Connecticut GOP congressman who last month penned an op-ed announcing his endorsement of Clinton. “I think her motivation would be this would enable her to be a better president.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/clintons-gop-supporters-expect-something-in-return-228117#ixzz4KEe1klfG

30  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Science Megathread on: September 13, 2016, 05:43:59 pm
More history than science, but still:

Ship found in Arctic 168 years after doomed Northwest Passage attempt

Exclusive: Perfectly preserved HMS Terror vessel sank during disastrous expedition led by British explorer Sir John Franklin

Paul Watson in Vancouver
Monday 12 September 2016 11.59 EDT

The long-lost ship of British polar explorer Sir John Franklin, HMS Terror, has been found in pristine condition at the bottom of an Arctic bay, researchers have said, in a discovery that challenges the accepted history behind one of polar exploration’s deepest mysteries.

HMS Terror and Franklin’s flagship, HMS Erebus, were abandoned in heavy sea ice far to the north of the eventual wreck site in 1848, during the Royal Navy explorer’s doomed attempt to complete the Northwest Passage.

All 129 men on the Franklin expedition died, in the worst disaster to hit Britain’s Royal Navy in its long history of polar exploration. Search parties continued to look for the ships for 11 years after they disappeared, but found no trace, and the fate of the missing men remained an enigma that tantalised generations of historians, archaeologists and adventurers.

Now that mystery seems to have been solved by a combination of intrepid exploration – and an improbable tip from an Inuk crewmember.

On Sunday, a team from the charitable Arctic Research Foundation manoeuvred a small, remotely operated vehicle through an open hatch and into the ship to capture stunning images that give insight into life aboard the vessel close to 170 years ago.
31  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Why is Hillary Clinton so popular? on: September 13, 2016, 10:23:37 am
Remember those halcyon days when threads like this were being made?

32  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Incomes are Rising and Poverty is Dropping, According to US Census Report on: September 13, 2016, 10:18:03 am
And yet more Americans still think this country is on the wrong track....

For American families, household incomes rose strongly in 2015, breaking a yearslong pattern of income stagnation. The median household’s income in 2015 was $56,500, an increase of 5.2 percent over the previous year, the Census Bureau reported Tuesday.

The income gains are an important turning point in the recovery from the 2008 recession, the deepest since the Great Depression. They show that recent economic gains are being distributed more broadly.

But the recovery remains incomplete. The median household income is still 1.6 percent lower than in 2007, before the recession. It also remains 2.4 percent lower than the all-time peak reached during the economic boom of the late 1990s.

The Census Bureau also reported that the number of households living in poverty shrank by 3.5 million in 2015, reducing the poverty rate by 1.2 percentage points.

It also reported that only 9.1 percent of Americans are now living without health insurance, evidence that the expansion of insurance coverage is continuing.

33  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: Maybe too soon to talk about? on: September 12, 2016, 03:28:32 pm
I think it's possible that Roe and Obamacare both go down with a Trump presidency. Obamacare would have to be replaced though, because it does help a lot of people, and there is general acknowledgement that healthcare is a national problem. What form that would take, I'm not sure, but I do believe people would fight very hard for it - it could be a cornerstone issue for the Dems in the future.

If Roe goes down, well, I don't know. We would have a conservative supreme court for a long time, so it is possible that it stands. In addition, excluding immigration, the population of the US is in decline, so maybe this issue becomes less important in the future.

Or not.  Given this is Donald Trump we are talking about, he could just as easily do a massive flip-flop on his earlier promises.  It isn't as if he hasn't set precedent throughout this campaign already. 
34  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Has Trump the least knowledge in foreign affairs of any candidate in a century? on: September 11, 2016, 07:55:57 pm
Dwight Eisenhower's victory over the isolationists in the GOP looks like it was only temporary, it seems.....   
35  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Clinton leaves 9/11 memorial early due to 'overheating' - Update: diagnosed with pneumonia on: September 11, 2016, 06:17:56 pm

Nepotism at its best!

Seriously, though, she would be a fine replacement if this rumor turns out to be true.  
36  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Which PART of Canada/British Isles/New Zealand/Australia do you like the most? on: September 11, 2016, 06:13:36 pm
New Zealand: Auckland (North Island)

Australia: Brisbane (Queensland)

Canada: Vancouver (British Columbia)

Ireland: Dublin

United Kingdom: England

Of all these places, I would prefer Brisbane as the best place to raise a family, since it is the third most diverse city in Australia and among the more affordable places to live (along with a decent public transportation system).  I don't know how its schools rank by comparison with its peers, though.  
37  Forum Community / Forum Community / Chimpanzee or Bonobo? on: September 11, 2016, 05:05:27 pm
Inspired by this New York Times article:

In the Bonobo World, Female Camaraderie Prevails

SEPT. 10, 2016

(...) Adult females responded to a broad range of male provocations — unwanted sexual overtures, food disputes, pushing, kicking, vocal threats, persistent pestiness — by forming coalitions of two or more females, who would then jointly take on their male tormentors.

Remarkably, the female partners in a bonobo posse cooperated with one another despite lacking any ties of blood or even close friendship. As the so-called dispersing sex, female bonobos must leave their birthplaces before puberty and find another social set to join, which means that none of the adult females in a given bonobo community are kin.

Moreover, female bonobos rarely formed coalitions with their preferred girlfriends — the individuals they spent the most time with and groomed the most ardently. Instead, the researchers found, coalitions arose when a senior female would step in and take the side of a younger peer caught up in an escalating conflict with a resident male.

By delivering the formidable luster of her social standing, as well as an extra pair of hands, the intervening senior pretty much guaranteed that the skirmish would break her way.

The new results add depth and complexity to our emerging understanding of Pan paniscus, the enigmatic, lithe great ape with the dark licorice eyes, who lives only in the Democratic Republic of Congo and is seriously endangered. The bonobo is a sister species to the more widespread common chimpanzee, Pan troglodytes, and the two share equal footing as our nearest primate kin.

Yet the apes have followed distinctly different behavioral paths. Chimpanzee society is male-dominated and features strong bonds between adult males and feeble ties between females.
38  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Clinton leaves 9/11 memorial early due to 'overheating' - Update: diagnosed with pneumonia on: September 11, 2016, 04:56:16 pm
This will actually benefit her because she went out and honored the 9/11 victims while having pneumonia

You'd think.  Tongue
39  General Discussion / History / Re: The Greatest Empire? on: September 11, 2016, 01:41:46 pm
I would argue that Achaemenid Persia is the greatest empire ever.  At its peak slightly over half the human population in the world was within the borders of Achaemenid Persia.  This is a record that has never been exceeded by any other political entity. 

Surely the Mongol Empire dwarfed all others in its day, at least when it came to sheer land-mass:

40  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Pres. Obama Looking to Shore Up Climate Change Legacy with Two More Agreements on: September 11, 2016, 01:34:44 pm
Frodo, I thought you were a climate denier?

My skepticism hasn't changed -that still won't stop me from posting articles about the subject.  
41  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Sleeping on airplanes on: September 11, 2016, 01:24:35 pm
No, not a good sleep.  Not even on the 14 hours flights between Sydney and LAX.  That's why when I lived in Australia, the #1 medium on which I watched movies was airplanes.  That'll probably changed now that I'm back in the US though.

How did you stay interested? I had an eight hour daytime flight a while ago. After the third movie in a row, I couldn't even stay interested in that.

I mean, on those long international flights they give you the personalized video things, where you can pick from a list of 50-100 movies.  I tend to go to the airline website in advance of the flight, to see what movies they'll have available, and then I check the reviews on the ones that look interesting to me.  Usually, finding 5 movies I'm interested in watching isn't a problem.  Sometimes it is, but usually I'm fine.  Sure, it might get a little boring after a while, but what's the alternative?  Long flights are boring.

Do you bring books and magazines with you as carry-on luggage like I do?  It helps reduce the strain on your eyes from watching movies. 
42  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Post something to trigger the preceding poster on: September 11, 2016, 01:19:58 pm
Has John Edwards cheated on Rielle Hunter yet?  Or is he waiting until she gets critically ill?  Tongue
43  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Senate Democrats to Hillary Clinton: Don't Forget About Us! on: September 11, 2016, 01:14:03 pm
In recent conversations with Clinton and her campaign chairman, John Podesta, the senators have been making the case that the candidate’s cash-rich political operation — the hub for party money and resources in 2016 — should start playing a greater role to ensure she has at least two years to move legislation through the Senate before Democrats face a brutal 2018 map, according to people familiar with the discussions.

As if to underscore the urgency, Schumer threw $2 million of his own campaign cash into the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee’s account this week.

“They’re going to say they’re being strategic for Hillary’s own benefit,” said a senior Democratic operative working on the party’s Senate strategy. “But whether she wins the presidency by 15 electoral votes or 40 electoral votes, if she wins by 15 and has a Democratic Senate or wins by 40 and doesn’t have a Democratic Senate, which is better for her?"

That kind of consternation is spreading.

Democrats need to win four seats to take control of the Senate, and they are currently in a good position to do so: They seem likely to win Republican-held seats in Illinois and Wisconsin and are favored in Indiana, too. Up to eight other Republican seats are in play, with only one Democratic seat — Reid's — currently looking like a toss-up.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/senate-democrats-urge-clinton-to-step-up-227997#ixzz4JyLg6fRj
44  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Some Churches Discover How to Attract Millennials... on: September 11, 2016, 01:04:29 pm
...by staying true to the Gospel they preach:

Harvest Megachurch Youth Pastors: Millennials Actually Love the Church if It's Real

September 1, 2016|5:57 pm

ANAHEIM, California –
Over 11,000 people received or recommitted to Christ this past weekend in Southern California, and the key to this harvest of souls are mobilized millennials who, according to local pastors, actually love the church.

In the Diamond Club at Anaheim's Angel Stadium Sunday, The Christian Post sat down with Brady Collins and Jason Powell who are on staff with Greg Laurie's Harvest Christian Fellowship and are an integral part of the behind-the-scenes operations of the annual Harvest SoCal Crusade Outreach.

Amid all the negative chatter about Christian millennials today, the two young pastors, both 31, are quick to shred several myths.

"The first thing is, I need to knock down a misconception," Powell said, "and [that] is these young millennials are absent from the scene, disinterested, disconnected from what's happening and really disengaged from what God wants to do. I think it's just the opposite."

Powell, a self-described "boots on the ground guy" who implements evangelism strategies in the lead-up to the Harvest event and frequently leads teams of young students on the streets to share the gospel, believes young believers are very sincere in their faith.

"If we get away from the fake, the facade, the apparent mask of things and go to the real authentic — you know, there is a mission at hand — a down to earth real cause for the gospel, I think these young people rise to the occasion every single time," Powell continued.

Read more at http://www.christianpost.com/news/harvest-megachurch-youth-pastors-millennials-actually-love-the-church-if-its-real-168952/#6FAa5FJF4XCJ0kc0.99
45  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Pres. Obama Looking to Shore Up Climate Change Legacy with Two More Agreements on: September 11, 2016, 12:16:25 pm
If President Obama is eroding the balance of power between the branches of government, the real culprit is the almost insane obstructionism that we have seen from Republicans in Congress since the beginning of his administration. 
46  Forum Community / Forum Community / Sleeping on airplanes on: September 11, 2016, 12:13:56 pm
And by 'sleep' I mean a good, long, deep, refreshing sleep. 

I could never manage to. 
47  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump on 9/11: "My building was the 2nd-tallest... And now it’s the tallest" on: September 11, 2016, 12:06:30 pm
Is this the architectural equivalent of a dick-measuring contest? Only instead of using 'hands' he is referring to buildings? Tongue
48  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Clinton leaves 9/11 memorial early due to 'overheating' - Update: diagnosed with pneumonia on: September 11, 2016, 11:51:58 am
I'm sure she appreciates your concern-trolling and crocodile tears...  Roll Eyes
49  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Will jfern ever return? on: September 11, 2016, 11:48:04 am
He should be thanking us for making him focus more on real life instead of wasting away on an online forum.  
50  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Should incest between siblings be legal? on: September 11, 2016, 11:44:47 am
Option 3 -anything less will be encouraging more to follow Cersei and Jaime Lannister's example, with similarly awful offspring:

I question the validity of using a fictional work as the base of your argument.

It was partly tongue-in-cheek (I know am not known for my humor here), but I am being serious in the sense that (and this is common knowledge) children who are born from incestuous coupling have a greater likelihood of having defects. So I question why you think why such a practice should be more generally accepted.   

He thinks incest should be completely legal with the exception of forced abortion in the case of pregnancy.

So he is fine with incest so long as incestuous couples are made to undergo Chinese-style mandatory abortions? 
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