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1  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: It's over. on: May 01, 2016, 08:16:11 pm
West Virginia strikes me as an anti-Conservative state...

Tell that to the two friends of Ben Kenobi who are voting for Ted Cruz!!!
2  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Why did Ted Cruz do so well in Lancaster County, PA? on: May 01, 2016, 08:13:29 pm
Amish don't vote.

They do to a degree in Ohio. The 04 Bush campaign made a concerted effort to register and GOTV Amish in places like Wayne and Holmes Counties.

Interesting, didn't know that!  I wonder how successful the registration drives were.

Perhaps central to this discussion is why Amish don't, generally, vote.  Is it a specific religious prohibition i.e. Jehovah's Witnesses or is it simply part of a tendency to avoid societal integration?
3  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Why did Ted Cruz do so well in Lancaster County, PA? on: May 01, 2016, 05:37:05 pm
Amish don't vote.
4  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Ted Cruz refuses to answer if he'll support Trump on: May 01, 2016, 05:35:08 pm
Ted Cruz is an adulterous, dishonest cheater.  It's no surprise that he would go back on his commitment.
5  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Primary Election Polls / Re: WV: MetroNews shows Trump leading with 40, Sanders leading with 57 on: May 01, 2016, 05:25:57 pm
Forget the D primary (which is over at this point), the interesting thing is how Trump is doing relatively poorly here compared to current expectations that it would be his best or 2nd best state in the country.  Maybe I was on to something when I said that he could be drifting too socially liberal for some WV voters' tastes? 

The poll is from February, and it was junk even then.  Trump will win here in a rout.

I'm less certain what will happen in the Democratic primary, but I just saw this hilarious anecdote about Bill Clinton getting booed in Logan, which until a decade ago was a Democratic stronghold (they were the only county in the state to vote for McGovern in 1972).

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Former President Bill Clinton drew boos and shouts from the crowd as he made a campaign stop in Logan, West Virginia, on his wife's behalf, ahead of the state's May 10 presidential primary.

Supporters of Democrat Bernie Sanders and Republican candidate Donald Trump gathered outside the school as Clinton spoke Sunday. According to WVNS-TV, a letter written on behalf of Logan officials told U.S. Sen. Joe Manchin's staff in an email that Bill and Hillary Clinton "are simply not welcome in our town."

Hillary Clinton, who planned to campaign in Williamson on Monday, has been criticized for comments that her policies would put coal miners and companies out of business. Clinton said later she was mistaken and that she's committed to coalfield communities.
6  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Age That You First Got Drunk on: May 01, 2016, 02:26:20 am
Wtf are these poll results?  Holy christ
7  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Kasich says that people are 'probably' born gay on: April 30, 2016, 06:38:11 am
Gay people are 'probably' born gay and Kasich is 'definitely' a drug dealer with a debt clock
8  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Should Cruz drop out if he loses IN? on: April 27, 2016, 06:01:33 pm
The fact that Ted Cruz thinks naming Carly Fiorina as his VP is an effective form of pandering just perfectly illustrates his political ineptitude.  Sad!  He should have dropped out after announcing his low-energy collusion with Joan Cusack.
9  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: UT-Dan Jones & Associates: Trump-Clinton Tied on: April 20, 2016, 08:06:20 pm
10  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: April Pacific Gubernatorial & Legislative Election VOTING BOOTH on: April 17, 2016, 01:23:56 am
Governor
1. TedBessell

Council:
1. 1184AZ
2. Simfan34
3. Lumine
11  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Kasich: Don't drink alcohol if you don't want to get raped on: April 15, 2016, 07:12:54 pm
Especially when it's clear he's not being pro-rape, he's just being pro-prude.

Yes, he is giving off a rather puritanical vibe, but I don't recognize much of a meaningful distinction between the various 'blame the victim' lines of thought.
12  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Kasich: Don't drink alcohol if you don't want to get raped on: April 15, 2016, 07:00:49 pm
Life is full of risks.  It is up to each individual to choose what risks they can/will tolerate.  Personally as a heterosexual male I've removed myself from several social situations over the years because I didn't like the scene nor the direction it was going.  I mean I know I have "muh rights" but I don't want to deal with the consequences of exercising each and every one of those rights 24/7.  I am not going to go out there an exercise "muh rights" to prove a point and end up arrest or killed.
I think we found the guy who sleeps with passed out people at parties.  Nobody wants to read your misrepresentations.  You should be ashamed of yourself.

If I honestly thought you believed the things you post I would say you have very deep and profound problems.

You quoted NIH as though it were somehow the same thing as a presidential candidate giving a bit of friendly advice to rape victims to wear less revealing clothing.  Oh wait, I forgot we were talking about alcohol instead.

I have no desire to defend John Kasich from a largely accurate thread title to make some clueless MRA feel better about discourse on this forum.  You've made your bed, now you can sleep in it.  You sided with the rapists and it's pretty clear that you have a personal motivation for doing that.  Nothing you can say will exonerate you.
13  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Kasich: Don't drink alcohol if you don't want to get raped on: April 15, 2016, 06:47:57 pm
I think we found the guy who sleeps with passed out people at parties.  Nobody wants to read your misrepresentations.  You should be ashamed of yourself.
Schadenfreude?

Yes.
14  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Kasich: Don't drink alcohol if you don't want to get raped on: April 15, 2016, 06:43:17 pm
I think we found the guy who sleeps with passed out people at parties.  Nobody wants to read your misrepresentations.  You should be ashamed of yourself.
15  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Bill Clinton: "Sanders supporters would shoot every 3rd person on Wall Street" on: April 15, 2016, 06:36:21 pm
Nothing to see here except a babbling incoherent fool who still doesn't seem to process that people aren't completely enamored with him and everything he does or says.  But it is part of a larger, outdated strategy to delegitimatize any unorthodox economic thinking, which is to conflate any mention of wealth inequality with the violence and brutality of authoritarian regimes.  That his mind leans back on these tired scare tactics is not necessarily new information, but he is going to have to learn to adapt.  Income inequality is not going anywhere, and they need to do a better job of pretending that they would like to address it.
16  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Kasich: Don't drink alcohol if you don't want to get raped on: April 15, 2016, 06:30:15 pm
This should be an automatic disqualifier, but in today's Republican party, this could very well still pass for 'moderate.'  It's hard to keep track of which pro-rape policies are and aren't acceptable, honestly.
17  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Clinton and de Blasio Ripped Over Racial Skit on: April 11, 2016, 10:18:22 pm
Honestly? Clinton should stop trying to pander to millennials.

She took a break from that the other week and it didn't go over so well.
18  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What happens if Sanders is the nominee? on: April 11, 2016, 05:52:05 pm
He loses. Badly. I'd be surprised if he won even Hawaii.

This sounds similar to Hillary Clinton's campaign referring to Obama circa April 2008.
19  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: 500K+ to lose SNAP benefits as 22 states bring back work requirements on: April 09, 2016, 11:46:00 pm
I work at a grocery store as a cashier and I can tell you that there are WAY too many people on food stamps who don't need them.  I had one customer recently who bought $200 worth of porterhouse steaks and crab legs all on an EBT card.  That's an extreme example but almost every day I get someone paying EBT for a $20 steak, or a $15 sushi platter, or a $5 pint of Ben & Jerry's, and of course they have cash for beer, wine, cigarettes, and lottery tickets.  And this is in a middle class area, I can't imagine the kind of fraud that goes on at stores in poor neighborhoods.

Just trying to parse what you mean in that last sentence there- because you see what you perceive to be fraud in an area where people are comparatively better off, there must be more fraud in an area where people are, from your perspective, "really" struggling?
20  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Why did Sanders only get 55.7% in Wyoming? on: April 09, 2016, 09:23:01 pm
I think he didn't campaign hard & could not get a turnout as expected. His supporters thought he probably would have won easily & didn't turnout

Sanders does best when the turnout is lowest (caucuses). The more people that cast votes (in this case, absentee) the better Clinton performs.

Sanders does best when the turnout is lowest (caucuses) unless the turnout is even lower (closed caucus). Tongue
21  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What happens if Sanders is the nominee? on: April 09, 2016, 07:32:55 pm
If Sanders is the Democratic nominee, then our chance of victory increases.  That argument is not as effective now as it was a month ago because Trump has basically imploded, but rest assured that Clinton will somehow manage to make it pointlessly closer than it needs to be.
22  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Why did Sanders only get 55.7% in Wyoming? on: April 09, 2016, 07:24:55 pm
Why does the frontrunner keep losing?
23  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What percentage of the African American vote will Hillary Clinton get in GE? on: April 09, 2016, 12:17:55 am
floor of 88%, ceiling of 94%

Depending on the tone of the campaign and the way Trump handles himself, he could potentially do worse than Romney.  Also, for those banking on a decreased African-American turnout... well, don't.
24  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Starbucks worker to Rick Scott: "You're an A*shole!" on: April 08, 2016, 07:53:28 pm
Wow, Rick Scott has time to put that hit job together but still has no idea how to manage the economy?  Shocker!
25  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: 1 in 4 Sanders Supporters Won't Back Hillary in November on: April 08, 2016, 06:52:14 pm
You have to remember that the vast majority of Sanders supporters are well-off white people. So they can afford to vote for Trump and not feel the effects of his presidency.

Interesting theory.  What does the exit polling suggest wrt how high-income earners are voting in the Democratic primaries?
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