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1  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump courting American voters in Israel; estimated 300,000 voters on: August 21, 2016, 10:49:28 pm
Pretty much all Americans who live abroad full-time are wealthy, highly skilled workers employed by multinational corporations. You don't have blue-collar Americans going to do entry-level work in Europe or Asia and wiring money back home to the folks in Kentucky.

The big difference is that if you're an American and live elsewhere, you made a conscious choice to do so. You weren't emigrating to support your poor, starving family or flee political or religious persecution. Most American ex-pats are members of the "global elite" who pretty much already have likeminded elected officials in any country they go to whether they can vote or not.

None of that is necessarily true of every American abroad and it shouldn't just be assumed in conjunction with an effort to delegitimize the right of citizens to vote.
2  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump courting American voters in Israel; estimated 300,000 voters on: August 21, 2016, 09:09:29 pm
I normally don't respond as I am about to here.  There are lots of folks I find obnoxious here that I will suffer and respond to as factually as I can.  But judging from your last few posts, you may be the most over-the-top irrational in this forum, regardless of party or ideology.

Hogwash.  What's over-the-top is plotting to disenfranchise large numbers of people.  What's irrational is cheerleading the candidacy of a man who tries to manipulate the electorate through fear and bigotry.  What's patriotic is standing strong against hate, against voter disenfranchisement, and against the politics of fear and division.
3  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump courting American voters in Israel; estimated 300,000 voters on: August 21, 2016, 08:11:40 pm
If you've lived outside the country for the better part of a decade, I would question your vestiture in daily American life.


And if you support Donald Trump, I would question your patriotism.
4  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump courting American voters in Israel; estimated 300,000 voters on: August 21, 2016, 07:40:40 pm
It's so easy for people who have no issues getting an ID, or live domestically, to casually say "we need these restrictions!", yet chances are if the shoe was on the other foot, they'd be crying a whole different story. Don't take your rights for granted and be respectful to other peoples rights.

Thank you.  Santander seems to think that because a couple of countries have this regressive policy, everyone else should, too.  I bet non-residents being disenfranchised during the Brexit vote was of great help to selfish nationalists like Santander.

If every country followed the UK's lead, then people like me - someone who has lived in my country of residence for nearly 12 years but am ineligible for citizenship due to not earning enough money, a crucial element that also prohibits me from moving - would not have a voice anywhere, at all.  I cherish my right to vote in the US.  I would never give it up.

We can't all be as rich and lucky as Santander.
5  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump courting American voters in Israel; estimated 300,000 voters on: August 21, 2016, 07:28:55 pm
Last I heard, TRUMP VODKA was only still on the market in Israel, by the way - so if his vodka is as terrible as everything else he does, maybe he loses this critical swing bloc!
6  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump courting American voters in Israel; estimated 300,000 voters on: August 21, 2016, 07:26:19 pm
Every other developed country in the world has voter ID and restrictions on non-resident citizen voting. The problem in America is the draconian worldwide taxation scheme that allows non-residents to justify voting.

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.  Plenty of countries allow and some even encourage non-resident citizens to vote.  But facts are irrelevant, since clearly your intention is to shrink the voter pool and increase the likelihood of nationalists succeeding.  Petty - and sad.
Considering I'm a citizen of three different countries... Roll Eyes

So what?  Your opinion is bad and you should feel bad.
That is some great logic. I'm glad you're in the right party.

Where's the logic in your claims?  You aren't the only person who is a citizen of three countries.  Maybe I know more about this than you think.

Now, while it might be unusual for someone in your position to hold this view, it does not make it therefore correct.  That seems to be the argument you are making.  It's weak.
7  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump courting American voters in Israel; estimated 300,000 voters on: August 21, 2016, 07:20:28 pm
Every other developed country in the world has voter ID and restrictions on non-resident citizen voting. The problem in America is the draconian worldwide taxation scheme that allows non-residents to justify voting.

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.  Plenty of countries allow and some even encourage non-resident citizens to vote.  But facts are irrelevant, since clearly your intention is to shrink the voter pool and increase the likelihood of nationalists succeeding.  Petty - and sad.
Considering I'm a citizen of three different countries... Roll Eyes

So what?  Your opinion is bad and you should feel bad.
8  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump courting American voters in Israel; estimated 300,000 voters on: August 21, 2016, 07:17:00 pm
Every other developed country in the world has voter ID and restrictions on non-resident citizen voting. The problem in America is the draconian worldwide taxation scheme that allows non-residents to justify voting.

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.  Plenty of countries allow and some even encourage non-resident citizens to vote.  But facts are irrelevant, since clearly your intention is to shrink the voter pool and increase the likelihood of nationalists succeeding.  Petty - and sad.
9  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Why is Gary Johnson polling at 7-16% but Stein is at 1-2%? on: August 21, 2016, 07:04:22 pm
Hillary Clinton is winning the votes of leftists.  Far right kooks who feel bad about voting for a racist are backing fringe lunatic Gary Johnson.

Jill Stein is not a qualified, serious candidate.  She would do a better job than Donald Trump, though.
10  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump courting American voters in Israel; estimated 300,000 voters on: August 21, 2016, 07:01:17 pm
We need to end worldwide taxation and disenfranchise non-resident citizens who've been out of the country more than 5 years.

Yes, we get it; you can't win elections without kicking off as many voters from the rolls as possible.  Snore.
11  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Prediction: Trump's cabinet if he wins on: August 21, 2016, 04:52:21 pm
The most disgusting assortment of pedophiles, terrorists, and capitalist vultures you will ever see collected in one group in the course of human civilization.

Thankfully, America will REJECT the Trump-ISIS ticket.

Hillary Clinton will appoint qualified, competent, and sane people to her cabinet.
12  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Jerry Falwell Jr.: Trump is the next Winston Churchill on: August 21, 2016, 04:48:59 pm
Jerry Falwell Jr is a pedophile who supports ISIS.

I stand firm AGAINST that traitor.

Donald Trump thinks abusing children, tearing families apart, and bombing hospitals is hilarious.  Just another day as a racist real estate developer for him.
13  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: August 2016 House of Representative Elections on: August 19, 2016, 09:53:40 pm
[ 1 ] 1184AZ of Washington
Labor Party
[ 2 ] evergreen of Illinois
Labor Party
[ 3 ] Never Again of Virginia
Labor Party
[ 4 ] Peebs of North Carolina
Labor Party
[ 5 ] Clyde1998 of Massachusetts
Labor Party
[ 6 ] Talleyrand of Texas
Nationalist Party
14  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama golfs while Louisiana sinks.......... on: August 19, 2016, 09:44:29 pm
The difference between Obama and Trump couldn't be more severe.

Obama is cautious, competent, and caring.

Donald Trump paraded down to Baton Rouge to defecate in people's homes before they could return from evacuation.  His despicable running mate has been in the state all day handing out cigarettes to children.

Is that really the sort of failed leadership that Louisiana needs?  No, of course not.
15  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What Is With Utah This Year? on: August 19, 2016, 05:33:42 pm
Donald Trump is a vulgar man who engages in self-worship.  He does not honor God in his personal life, nor in his policy proposals.  He says we should ban a religious minority from the country.  He wants to split up families through mass deportations.

This is not family values.
16  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump and Pence to Volunteer and Tour Flood-Affected Louisiana Areas Tomorrow on: August 19, 2016, 04:15:53 am
Looks like Donald Trump is heading to Louisiana to urinate in the flooded streets while his hapless running mate hands out cigarettes to children.
17  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: AP: Trump Campaign Chair Directly Linked to Pro-Kremlin Lobbying Effort on: August 19, 2016, 04:12:29 am
Trump/Putin will lose this election, and they will lose it badly.
18  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Why has Bill Clinton been so reluctant to criticize Donald Trump? on: August 18, 2016, 03:52:55 am
My theory is that Bill Clinton would rather be with the Energizer Bunny in Chappaqua than "Stuck With Hillary!" in the White House. Can't say I blame him.

So, just to be clear, you think Bill Clinton is intentionally sabotaging his wife's campaign?
19  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Will Trump get working class voters & Hillary college educated voters? on: August 17, 2016, 05:56:37 pm
It is rather annoying the implication that because one is white and working-class and/or uneducated, it gives them some kind of justifiable, understandable reason to be a racist idiot that votes to screw over themselves and the entire country in the process.

As a minimum wage Democrat (and yes, white and no college degree) it would be a cold day in Hell before I felt it appropriate to reward the dinosaurs of the Republican party with any modicum of support.  Good news is, the asteroid is coming.
20  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump: I don't trust US intelligence information on: August 17, 2016, 05:32:34 pm
And yet he is to receive intelligence briefings?

The man should be imprisoned for fraud and treason.
21  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Maggie Hassan clarifies: 'Yes,' Hillary Clinton is trustworthy on: August 17, 2016, 05:06:44 pm
What is Maggie Hassan up to?  The only thing I really know about her is that despite being a Democrat who governs a New England state, she pandered to racist morons by illegally trying to stop the settlement of peaceful refugees.

The only other option is that she herself is a racist moron.  Can someone from New Hampshire confirm this?
22  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump to receive first classified briefing tomorrow on: August 16, 2016, 06:21:19 pm
We all know he will feed the information to Putin and ISIS as soon as he gets the first chance.
23  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Can one be a pro-choice social conservative? on: August 16, 2016, 05:28:04 pm
Yes.  Backing forced childbirth is an increasingly fringe issue.
24  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Do Prisons Without Air-Conditioning Constitute 'Cruel and Unusual Punishment'? on: August 16, 2016, 05:26:50 pm
No. They're in jail because they committed a crime. Why should we meet their temperature demands?

Treat prisoners like dirt and then wonder why the recidivism rate is so high.

This is the sort of issue that really brings out the worst in people, frankly.
25  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Will A Conviction Of PA Attorney General Kane (D) Affect The Presidential Race? on: August 16, 2016, 03:51:53 am
Wow, fellas, it looks like the Republicans will win Pennsylvania for the first time since 1988 because of this!

Now all Donald Trump has to do is gain another ten points in the polls there and he'll be set.
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