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1  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: When Donald Trump discriminated against African American tenants in 1973... on: Today at 06:35:26 pm
He'd gladly give the rest of the country's economy and social fabric a giant F U to preserve every economically inefficient but precious to him loophole in the code.

Exactly right.  If anything positive can come out of this embarrassing campaign, hopefully we finally see the political will to repeal the Trump Loophole once and for all.

Everyone knows Trump is not going to shake up Washington.  He's spent years and years shaking it down!
2  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Hey look who started #TrumpWon! on: Today at 05:32:22 pm
Since the Trump people posted a bunch of stupid, baseless conspiracy theories, it's okay for us to do it too right guys?Huh

Apparently there are different standards depending on the candidate you support.  I posted a very reasonable poll asking about Donald Trump's spreading of STI's throughout his years of adultery and it was removed.

Yet the racists are free to post their more baseless conspiracy theories!
3  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: WA-Emerson: Murray +7 on: Today at 05:03:00 pm
Murray will get 60% here, maybe even more.

Yeah, she easily clears 60%.
4  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: WA/NE-Emerson (pre-debate): Clinton +6 in WA, Trump +27 in NE on: Today at 04:57:23 pm
More like Clinton +27 in WA and Trump +6 in NE!
5  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Giuliani: Hillary "too stupid to be president" on: Today at 04:54:57 pm
Mr. Drumpf loves the poorly educated. This is another countless proof.

Actually, he despises them, mocks their intelligence, and thinks that he can exploit them to win this presidential election.

Has a presidential candidate ever so openly thought so lowly of his supporters as Donald Trump?  The way he runs his campaign, he is banking on the entire country being very dumb!
6  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Hey, Santander: come and play! on: September 27, 2016, 05:16:46 pm
You mean the racist coward was lying, too?  Such shock.  Such surprise.

Can't trust racists.  They are notoriously lazy and unreliable.
7  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: When Donald Trump discriminated against African American tenants in 1973... on: September 27, 2016, 05:06:40 pm
And he would never discriminate against anyone.

Did you see the part of the debate where Trump named one of his businesses in Florida and proclaimed that he was proud of how they didn't discriminate against blacks or Muslims there?

Only somebody with a long record of discrimination and racial vilification would tout that as an accomplishment in a last-ditch effort to bury his long past of bigotry.

It's fine that you support Trump, but the damage you do to your own credibility by saying that he doesn't discriminate against people can't be good.  You can't just ignore that people of color are routinely removed from his rallies.  Instead of adopting the dishonest tactics of your candidate, be a little more critical.
8  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Poll: Any truth behind trump's mic being "defective" during debate ? on: September 27, 2016, 05:01:44 pm
Such a shame that Trump thinks so lowly of his supporters that he would try to excuse his terrible performance with such blatant lies.

Has there ever been a presidential candidate who so openly views his voters as idiots?
9  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Giuliani: Hillary "too stupid to be president" on: September 27, 2016, 04:51:23 pm
The reason Giuliani said this is because he is a serial adulterer, and he is trying to deflect away from his guilt at being so consistently incapable of honoring his commitments.

Rudy Giuliani is a very dishonorable man, but more importantly, he is deathly ill.  Aside from the dementia which is rapidly eating away whatever functional parts of his brain remain, he has a long list of sexually transmitted infections - similar to the candidate he supports.

Has there ever been such a syphilitic team of surrogates shilling for a presidential candidate in modern history?
10  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / When Donald Trump discriminated against African American tenants in 1973... on: September 27, 2016, 04:43:33 pm
It is an enormous mystery how far back Donald Trump's history of tax evasion goes.  We know that he won't pay his taxes because of his immense greed.  Which started first, his public racism or his fraudulent financial practices?
11  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Is Donald Trump collaborating with ISIS? on: September 27, 2016, 04:18:33 am
As much as I donít like the Trumpster, this question/thread is laughable.

It's a reflection of Donald Trump's own words that he would be in this unenviable position.  He has spent months projecting his own involvement with the easily dismissed claim that Hillary Clinton "created" ISIS.  Now that he's finally let the cat out of the bag - confirming as I suspected all along, that he and ISIS are working together to defeat America - I'm just curious how deep the involvement goes.  Trump-ISIS have a long history of exploiting fear.  The Trump-ISIS plan to bomb hospitals and destroy communities may have been stopped in its tracks by Trump's unexpected admission.
12  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Is Trump really going to make the next two debates? on: September 27, 2016, 04:11:16 am
Yes, both. How is this a question?
Beacuse it's hackish Atlas and someone may have said something to some MSNBC hack (always objective pro-Trump journalists) that Trump may skip the debates.

I don't have MSNBC.  Try again, or don't, because you don't succeed at things you do.

Trump isn't going to complain about Lester Holt yet.  Instead there was something wrong with his microphone, apparently.  It must be a full-time job supporting and constantly explaining the actions of such a pansy!
13  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Who won the first debate? on: September 27, 2016, 03:59:39 am
The question isn't who won the first debate, the question is how badly did Hillary Clinton eviscerate Donald Trump and when will he drop out?
14  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / When did Donald Trump last pay federal income tax? on: September 26, 2016, 09:47:59 pm
With Donald Trump's admission tonight that he doesn't pay federal income tax, because "it would probably be squandered" on social programs, it opens up speculation about the last year that he didn't skirt his financial obligations to the country he plans to lead.
15  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Is Donald Trump collaborating with ISIS? on: September 26, 2016, 09:45:34 pm
Tonight, Donald Trump admonished Hillary Clinton, yelling at her: "No wonder you've been fighting ISIS your entire adult life."

Now, some of you may know that I have long believed the Trump-ISIS coalition presents a grave threat to the United States.  This seems to be a new admission by Trump that his collaboration with ISIS is at threat thanks to Hillary Clinton.  Is he worried that his friends will be destroyed by his opponent?
16  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Is Trump really going to make the next two debates? on: September 26, 2016, 09:23:18 pm
Yes, both. How is this a question?

He's completely crashing and burning.  The audience just burst out laughing when he said he has a better temperament.  This guy is so out of his depth, it's hard to believe.
17  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Is Trump really going to make the next two debates? on: September 26, 2016, 09:18:41 pm
It's hard to say at this point, but he will certainly be reconsidering attending the debates after tonight!
18  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Hofstra University POTUS debate at 9pm ET **live commentary thread** on: September 26, 2016, 09:15:10 pm
Trump seems ill.  A man of his age and weight should not be abusing cocaine.  He could have a stroke or heart attack.

As for the fact that he's been audited by the IRS for nearly as many years that Hillary Clinton has been fighting ISIS, it's now clear why: Trump tacitly admitted he doesn't pay federal income tax!
19  Forum Community / Forum Community / Are you covered for dental? on: September 26, 2016, 03:50:14 am
No, but I'd like to be. Tongue

Is this included in your insurance?
20  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: ME-UNH/Portland Press Herald: Clinton+4, but Trump wins CD2 by 14% on: September 26, 2016, 01:59:34 am
I think they have determined that it is a Trump blowout and that the 1 EV is unlikely to matter.  In any event, we'll know something is up if Clinton starts campaigning in Portland.  Note that Clinton has campaigned and run ads in NE-02, so they must be pretty sanguine about that one.

Portland is not in ME-2....

Yet Trump was campaigning there. Grin

I dislike your implication that I dislike these people or that I think they don't have valid interests.

You certainly gave the impression that you did. ... It seemed like that was what you were doing, mainly because you were deploying a lot of the same tropes as IceSpear, who absolutely is doing that.

That's fair, and I was probably even conscious of that when I wrote the original post- it came with extra salt, to be sure- but that is not a complete picture, only part of it, and I was blowing off a bit of steam there, but I think we're largely on the same page.
21  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: ME-UNH/Portland Press Herald: Clinton+4, but Trump wins CD2 by 14% on: September 25, 2016, 05:57:48 pm
Also, [Inks] you, Ebowed.

Pretty simple, no?  Why would you vote for someone who repeatedly makes racist statements unless you lack exposure to people harmed by these comments?

Well, for one thing, areas, especially spooky scary non-urban areas, with higher minority populations statistically tend (to a certain point) to have more conservative whites...

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As for elections having consequences, I should think that is a fairly uncontroversial sentiment.  Nobody is happy that rural Maine is suffering through difficult economic circumstances, and I would certainly propose they adopt an entirely different agenda to the one being enacted by their current government.  I'm not going to coddle a bunch of racists on a political forum because a few words are open to misinterpretation, or whatever is going on here.

Nobody is asking you to 'coddle' anybody.

Re point 1, that's generally due to a lack of integration, or in the South, longstanding cultural traditions. There is no question that the highest rates of xenophobia are in insular, lily white communities, as a lack of exposure can breed fear and ignorance.

As for coddling, what would the cavalcade of leftists jumping to the defense of racist voters suggest instead? I have to deal with racism and people making excuses for it everyday at work and I'm not going to be made to feel bad for an impolite post. I'm sorry if it offended you but I dislike your implication that I dislike these people or that I think they don't have valid interests. That doesn't mean I won't call out racism when I see it.
22  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Seriously? Theatre of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts V on: September 25, 2016, 05:43:51 pm
Nothing about this is incorrect, it's just ludicrously snobbish, supercilious, and hateful:

Populations that are insular and homogeneous tend to be easily coerced into buying populist and bigoted campaigns.  People in ME-02 are probably concerned that their jobs will be stolen by refugees, which is charming, because it assumes that anybody would want to live there if they weren't already born there.

These people had their chance to prove that they knew better.  Instead, they re-elected Paul LePage.  The invisible hand of the free market will be guiding ME-02 with its entrepreneurial heroin dealers and blue collar job losses for years to come.

Wrong basket. This was the one that Hillary was saying we should sympathize with, not think to ourselves, "Well, f 'em, they're voting for Trump." This kind of elitism in the Democratic Party is why Republicans are gaining in new voter registration now. The Obama-Obama-Trump voters do exist and we can't just label them as racist idiots. We need to be at least as accepting of them as we are of McCain-Romney-Clinton voters or the rapists and criminals Mexican immigrants. If Clinton's "deplorables" gaffe had sounded like this instead of what it actually was, then I would have reconsidered my support. This and the one above it are bad signs for the Democratic Party in the future. They need to re-become what are supposed to be: a party of the people, not the party of whoever is supporting them. But they do have a G-WA avatar so that explains some of it.

This right here, very interesting. The party of the people, you say? I'm trying to provide the perspective of a type of person who is politically ignored. Until the Fight for $15, fast food workers had no representation, no champion, no nothing. It sure as hell wasn't Donald Trump who got behind it and fought for better working conditions.

Ignore me at your own peril, and continue to try to win the votes of the "disappearing white middle class." Or, you know, start taking poverty seriously.
23  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Seriously? Theatre of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts V on: September 25, 2016, 04:43:30 pm
Such attitude is why people like Trump are getting momentum.

See, I find this far more insulting.  As a non-college educated, minimum wage fast food worker, people on this forum consistently make the observation that a voter like me would naturally gravitate towards Trump just for being "dumb and poor."  Well, I give people more credit than that, and I don't think being uneducated or poor is an excuse for racism.

Sure, the rhetoric is cold, I'll give you that much.
24  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: ME-UNH/Portland Press Herald: Clinton+4, but Trump wins CD2 by 14% on: September 25, 2016, 04:38:43 pm
Also, [Inks] you, Ebowed.

Pretty simple, no?  Why would you vote for someone who repeatedly makes racist statements unless you lack exposure to people harmed by these comments?

As for elections having consequences, I should think that is a fairly uncontroversial sentiment.  Nobody is happy that rural Maine is suffering through difficult economic circumstances, and I would certainly propose they adopt an entirely different agenda to the one being enacted by their current government.  I'm not going to coddle a bunch of racists on a political forum because a few words are open to misinterpretation, or whatever is going on here.
25  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: ME-UNH/Portland Press Herald: Clinton+4, but Trump wins CD2 by 14% on: September 25, 2016, 04:09:27 pm
Populations that are insular and homogeneous tend to be easily coerced into buying populist and bigoted campaigns.  People in ME-02 are probably concerned that their jobs will be stolen by refugees, which is charming, because it assumes that anybody would want to live there if they weren't already born there.

These people had their chance to prove that they knew better.  Instead, they re-elected Paul LePage.  The invisible hand of the free market will be guiding ME-02 with its entrepreneurial heroin dealers and blue collar job losses for years to come.
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