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1  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: which state bordering yours would you most like to live? on: May 26, 2015, 02:18:40 pm
1. New Mexico
2. Missouri
3. Texas
4. Kansas
5. Arkansas
6. Colorado
2  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The "Who is running?" tea leaves thread (Part 2) on: May 22, 2015, 10:15:11 pm
Chafee is the biggest joke candidate in the history of joke candidates. Your average county board member has more gravitas than him. It's remarkable he's ever been elected to anything.

Surely at least one of Carly Fiornia, Donald Trump, or Ben Carson is more of a joke.

Carson is not really a joke candidate. The guy is LEADING in GA. Even Trump is polling fifth or so in New Hampshire. Fiorina is the only one of those three who appears to be a complete joke, but even she would get the nomination before that governor from New York with like 12% name recognition. What was his name again? Georgina Pataka or something?

Just because a guy has a lot of support doesn't mean he isn't a joke candidate. How many joke candidate where the frontrunner at some point in 2012?

I define a joke candidate as someone who is essentially hopeless in terms of getting the nomination, not someone who is simply inexperienced or unelectable in the GE. Bachmann in say, November 2011, would have qualified. She wouldn't have qualified in august when she was winning the ames straw poll. Carson may qualify in the future, but he doesn't for now.

And Ben Carson is a joke candidate. Even if he won a primary, he would be slaughtered with press and attack ads and would not even get close to the nomination.

When does GA fall in the primary calendar for 2016?  I'm wondering if Carson would even make it that far?
3  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Why is SSM such a big deal? on: May 21, 2015, 10:06:31 pm
Despite what all of us traditional marriage supporters have said, there is a God who loves each and every one of us.  We don't have to clean up our act or debunk homosexuality to meet Him.  He meets us right where we are and the rest is up to Him.  It doesn't matter at all how the world sees you on either side of the issue.  It all matters how God sees you.  God is in the business of loving souls, not condemning sinners.  The fact is we ALL have sinned, but God extends His love toward ALL of us in spite of our sins and shortcomings.  No sin is worse than any other sin.  God doesn't demand anything of us.  All He wants is for us to come to the cross to meet Him just as we are.  Whether or not you consider homosexuality to be a sin, I think we can all agree we have sinned in many other areas.  God doesn't care about our political views.  All He wants is our heart.  He has offered the free gift of salvation through the blood of Jesus.  All He asks is that we receive that offer.  That's it.  Pure and simple.  Nutmeg, if you have indeed trusted the Lord for your salvation, then good for you and welcome to the family, brother.  Unlike some of my fellow Christians, I believe that gays can be Christians because, like I said, the act of homosexuality is just like any other.  If it's a sin, which I believe it is, it is certainly no worse or no different from any other sin.  God can save despite it.  Like I said, all He asks is our heart and He will see to it to conform us to His will.  CountryClass, there is no need at all to feel ashamed or be hard on yourself because of your sexuality.  The same God who spoke the world into existence, is the same God that saved me 29 years ago this fall, and is the same God who wants to give you a new identity in Christ.  You don't have to renounce your homosexuality to come to Him.  Once you become His, it is up to Him how He wants to mold you and make you after that.  I believe you can be a great soldier of God with your testimony.

I don't mean to proselytize, but I had to share what the good news is in all this discussion.  There is room at the cross.  Will you receive His offer?
4  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Why is SSM such a big deal? on: May 21, 2015, 04:31:49 pm
A CEO was forced out of his job for the "crime" of engaging in the political process by donating to the campaign for California's Proposition 8.   Bakers are being forced to bake cakes with messages in support of something they vehemently disagree with.   Some "progressives" label anyone who has legitimate religious objections to gay marriage as "bigots" and "haters", instead of engaging in debate, and try to ruin opponents' lives and job prospects. 

If you don't see that as gun pointing by SSM proponents, I don't know what to tell you.  If you dare disagree with SSM, you are evil incarnate to "progressives".


That's because there's no such thing as a legitimate religious objection to gay marriage.

It's 2015. Religion should evolve alongside people. Also, because this is a secular nation, run on, wait for it, secular values, prohibiting or denying SSM on religious grounds would be going against separation of church and state.

You're more than welcome to move to someplace like Iran though if you want a country run on religious grounds.

Newsflash:  The Bible is not changing.  Religion should not get with the times.  It is time society stops trying to rip pages out of the Bible.  I sincerely hope the Supreme Court is smart and does NOT impose same-sex marriage in all 50 states.  It threatens America's churches, especially the most conservative ones.  It also threatens Christian schools.  Liberal progressives seriously want to see pastors thrown in jail for life for preaching against same sex marriage and they want to take away tax exempt status for those who refuse to go along with gay marriage.  The denominations who are allowing same sex marriage now are 100% WRONG on that issue.  The Bible clearly states Adam and Eve.  The Bible clearly prohibits a man sleeping with a man.  It is not a slippery slope to other forms of "marriage", but it is a slippery slope to which all voices of opposition will be discriminated against, by the loss of jobs, the loss of their business, imprisonment.

However, there is one thing that is an ABSOLUTE FACT that NO one can deny.  Jesus reigns.  What He says goes.  It doesn't matter if you're an atheist or a member of another religion.  What Jesus says goes.  He will stamp out ALL same sex relationships and marriages.  He will get rid of all sin.

Furthermore, the Bible clearly says no one is born gay.  Being gay is absolutely positively a choice.  The Bible is the rule book on all human life, so no one can legitimately deny its teachings.

Just because we Christians hate gay marriage does not mean we hate gay people or are bigots.  We love gays, but are just trying to uphold traditional, conservative values that liberal progressives are trying so hard to get rid of and replace.

Gay activists should not force everyone to accept their marriage.  They want open mindedness, so why aren't they open minded to conservative, Biblical values?

Sorry for the rant, but it is a topic I have come to the correct realization on.  Christianity reigns and gay marriage loses in eternity.  Pure and simple.
5  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Pence says he won't run for president in 2016 on: May 19, 2015, 06:13:16 pm
Smart man
6  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Why is Rubio even running? on: May 19, 2015, 05:49:36 pm
I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss him.  He's a smart character and he is doing pretty well in the early polls.  He may not have the inside track to the nomination, but he's got a better-than-average shot to capture it.  If he can clinch the nomination he has a decent shot at winning the presidency.  I don't think we can pin him to the "VP-at-best" wall, just yet.  We need to give the campaign time to really get going and wait for a couple of debates to happen before we pin him to that wall.  He may very well be headed in that direction, but we cannot say for sure at this juncture.  Remember, we are still 17 1/2 months from the General Election and 8 months from Iowa.
7  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Mad Men is back on: May 19, 2015, 10:59:16 am
I've heard they are shooting a new episode in my old college town of Alva, Oklahoma.  I'm not quite sure why, but I think it's an interesting and a good choice.
8  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The "Who is running?" tea leaves thread (Part 2) on: May 18, 2015, 05:41:30 pm

Why does Perry have this uncontrollable compulsion for self humiliation? And just who is going to give him any money this time?

The former governor doesn't have anything else to do apparently.
9  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Jeb Bush claims gay marriage isn't protected by the Constitution on: May 18, 2015, 03:30:08 pm
Finally, a breath of fresh air from Governor Bush.
10  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Happy birthday Windjammer! on: May 16, 2015, 02:45:14 pm
Happy Birthday, buddy!
11  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Do you guys think Biden will run? on: May 15, 2015, 08:19:36 pm
I don't think so unless Clinton flames out unexpectedly.  Biden knows he is viewed as yesterday's politician and wouldn't get many votes.  He might take Delaware and Pennsylvania from Hillary, but that'd be all.

Hillary would destroy Biden in PA.

Probably so.  I was just giving the absolute best case scenario for Biden as I see it.
12  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Bush accidentally announces candidacy on: May 15, 2015, 12:26:58 pm
They might as well announce.  I don't know what they are waiting for.  Let's get this show on the road.

Walker is waiting for the Wisconsin budget to be wrapped up.  Bush seems to just think he's better off announcing later instead of sooner for some reason.  I don't think he's right about that.

I can understand Walker wanting to do his job as Governor before he jumps in.  That's actually smart.  I just think Bush is waiting a little too long.  If he's going to wait until mid-June, why not just wait an extra 2-3 weeks until July 1 so he doesn't have to report fundraising for the second quarter?  Same with Walker?
13  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: B.B. King dead at 89. on: May 15, 2015, 12:15:58 pm
RIP Mr. King.  His legacy lives through his music.  I enjoy listening to his music.  I enjoy music from that era.

We're losing artists from his era at a rapid rate nowadays.  We seem to lose one every quarter or so.  Today's music just doesn't have the same appeal to me as the music from my parents' and grandparents' generations.
14  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Do you guys think Biden will run? on: May 14, 2015, 09:09:43 pm
I don't think so unless Clinton flames out unexpectedly.  Biden knows he is viewed as yesterday's politician and wouldn't get many votes.  He might take Delaware and Pennsylvania from Hillary, but that'd be all.
15  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Will being reamed over fast track push Warren to run for president? on: May 14, 2015, 05:31:17 pm
What? Clinton didn't lay into her, Obama did. This is not about Clinton, it's about her being insulted and finally realizing that despite everything she's done, she's really powerless in the Senate on the ultimate, big questions.

I stand corrected.  I guess I should read the news a little closer, haha!
16  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Will being reamed over fast track push Warren to run for president? on: May 14, 2015, 05:24:57 pm
I don't think so, either.  Lizzy Warren is more aligned with Sanders than Clinton in the first place, so I think she would have supported Sanders in the primary even before Clinton laid into her.  This only reinforces that.

The question is will she support Clinton in the GE or will she stay home out of protest that Clinton is too moderate?
17  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Do you have a landline phone? on: May 14, 2015, 04:37:03 pm
Yes
18  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: John Bolton to announce presidential plans on Thursday at noon Eastern time on: May 14, 2015, 12:30:45 pm
Good.  He can go back to being completely irrelevant now.  Not that running would have changed that any.
19  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The "Who is running?" tea leaves thread (Part 2) on: May 14, 2015, 10:14:06 am
Any word on when Gov. Walker plans to announce?
20  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Summer 2015 Weather Outlook on: May 13, 2015, 07:14:18 pm
Showers and t-storms. My type of weather.

I agree, but is that all we're going to get? Should we build an arc?

It's funny you mention that.  I don't know if you saw on the news about the Tigers escapings from the Tiger Safari in Oklahoma last Wednesday when we had all the severe weather.  But, I had remarked that the animals were just looking for Noah... And found him... Lol
21  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Bush accidentally announces candidacy on: May 13, 2015, 05:58:49 pm
They might as well announce.  I don't know what they are waiting for.  Let's get this show on the road.
22  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The "Who is running?" tea leaves thread (Part 2) on: May 13, 2015, 05:29:30 pm
Bolton is announcing his decision tomorrrow. He'll do it online, with a conference call soon to follow.

His announcement feels like a non-event to me.
23  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Summer 2015 Weather Outlook on: May 13, 2015, 03:11:41 pm
What does the Rain Departs mean for Western Oklahoma and Western Texas?  Does that mean the heavy rain those areas have now will begin to subside?  What about for temperatures in those areas?
24  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Bush is skipping the Iowa Straw Poll. on: May 12, 2015, 05:21:21 pm
It baffles me why candidates don't compete in Iowa.  To me, I would want to take advantage of every chance to grab delegates that I can.  Then again, I'm not a campaign manager.
25  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: American Idol to wrap next season on: May 12, 2015, 05:19:48 pm
I haven't watched a single episode since January 2007.  I'm not going to miss it.
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