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76  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update Season XIV: The new chapter on: April 14, 2014, 10:22:04 pm
Recruiters are the greatest bullsh**tters on earth....whether for the service,a job, a school, etc!

As it turns out though, based on the timing, it was more what my recruiter told me initially than what the design manager told me.  My recruiter told me I would hear today or tomorrow.  The Design Manager told me I wouldn't hear until mid week and there were other things different.  Turns out I heard today at 17:00...
77  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update Season XIV: The new chapter on: April 14, 2014, 10:18:34 pm
Alright, guys, I'm done with discussing religion for right now.  I don't want an argument tonight, as I'm in too good of a mood despite losing a job offer earlier this evening.  Let's move on to a different topic, shall we?

Have you bought a set of dumbbells yet??

Not yet.

You are waiting for what??

Nothing, just haven't bought them, yet.

have you walked recently?

do you feel bad that you wasted over $100 to buy 'walking gear?'

I haven't walked in several days.

It does seem like a crazy move initially, but I haven't given up walking totally.

You have no reason not to be walking or to have bought dumbells.  It's sheer laziness on your part.  And it's probably hurting your job prospects.

I think what it may have been is the interviewer told me different things than my recruiter, and I acted confused and flustered in front of the interviewer.  I realize now that was a stupid move on my part and I should have waited until I got out of the office to call my recruiter and talk it over with him...

So now your meltdowns are affecting your job interviews.  Jeff, you need help with this stuff before it progresses to the point that you can't control it.

It wasn't a meltdown, more that it caught me by surprise and I acted surprised.  I never raised my voice or was upset.  I was more surprised, because that wasn't what I had heard.
78  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update Season XIV: The new chapter on: April 14, 2014, 10:16:22 pm
I'm eating myself alive right now, because I know if I had acted normal through the entire interview and talked to my recruiter afterwards, I might have been in the middle of preparing to move to Tulsa...  Doh!!!!!!!!!

Bushie, please don't. Eating is not a good way to cope with stress whatsoever. I know it sucks, but don't continue to cope with this situation like that.

I'll be alright.  Now that I realize what I did, I want to go back and have a do-over.  I guess I'll have to settle for learning from it and move on.

Good. Now you have to look on the bright side, there's still the other interview, and I know you've submitted an application elsewhere, so there's a lot of hope, and I know if you set your mind to it, you'll get a job Smiley

Thanks, Flo.
79  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update Season XIV: The new chapter on: April 14, 2014, 10:15:43 pm
Jeff -- you were working through a recruiter to find this opportunity? Was the recruiter employed by the company itself, or was he a contracted recruiter?

Temp agency.  Aerotek by temp agency name.  It was supposed to be a 6-month temp to hire.
80  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update Season XIV: The new chapter on: April 14, 2014, 09:53:36 pm
I'm eating myself alive right now, because I know if I had acted normal through the entire interview and talked to my recruiter afterwards, I might have been in the middle of preparing to move to Tulsa...  Doh!!!!!!!!!

Bushie, please don't. Eating is not a good way to cope with stress whatsoever. I know it sucks, but don't continue to cope with this situation like that.

I'll be alright.  Now that I realize what I did, I want to go back and have a do-over.  I guess I'll have to settle for learning from it and move on.
81  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update Season XIV: The new chapter on: April 14, 2014, 09:52:25 pm
This is all so INTERESTING!!! 

Bushie, I would hope that the Ruby Tuesday's pregame did not result in an ill-timed bout of flatulance?  That would be most tragic : (

Still pullin for ya!

Huh?

Apparently Ruby Tuesday's played a role in the interview that had nothing to do with greasy shirts or onion breath.  I just hope thay Bushie isn't ripping ass through these interviews.  It's tragic because Ruby Tuesday's is actually quite good.   

I wasn't "making music".  I don't think it was Ruby Tuesday's.  I don't know what it was...

maybe lack of preparation?

I think what it may have been is the interviewer told me different things than my recruiter, and I acted confused and flustered in front of the interviewer.  I realize now that was a stupid move on my part and I should have waited until I got out of the office to call my recruiter and talk it over with him...

Yes that would kind of do it....


How much research of the company did you actually conduct??

2 days worth.


In all seeriousness do you know how to research a comany or a position?   I'm not saying this to be a di**, but you don't exactly have the strongest record at such things...

I studied the website extensively.
82  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update Season XIV: The new chapter on: April 14, 2014, 09:47:26 pm
I'm eating myself alive right now, because I know if I had acted normal through the entire interview and talked to my recruiter afterwards, I might have been in the middle of preparing to move to Tulsa...  Doh!!!!!!!!!
83  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update Season XIV: The new chapter on: April 14, 2014, 09:45:49 pm
This is all so INTERESTING!!! 

Bushie, I would hope that the Ruby Tuesday's pregame did not result in an ill-timed bout of flatulance?  That would be most tragic : (

Still pullin for ya!

Huh?

Apparently Ruby Tuesday's played a role in the interview that had nothing to do with greasy shirts or onion breath.  I just hope thay Bushie isn't ripping ass through these interviews.  It's tragic because Ruby Tuesday's is actually quite good.   

I wasn't "making music".  I don't think it was Ruby Tuesday's.  I don't know what it was...

maybe lack of preparation?

I think what it may have been is the interviewer told me different things than my recruiter, and I acted confused and flustered in front of the interviewer.  I realize now that was a stupid move on my part and I should have waited until I got out of the office to call my recruiter and talk it over with him...

Yes that would kind of do it....


How much research of the company did you actually conduct??

2 days worth.
84  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update Season XIV: The new chapter on: April 14, 2014, 09:43:13 pm
This is all so INTERESTING!!! 

Bushie, I would hope that the Ruby Tuesday's pregame did not result in an ill-timed bout of flatulance?  That would be most tragic : (

Still pullin for ya!

Huh?

Apparently Ruby Tuesday's played a role in the interview that had nothing to do with greasy shirts or onion breath.  I just hope thay Bushie isn't ripping ass through these interviews.  It's tragic because Ruby Tuesday's is actually quite good.   

I wasn't "making music".  I don't think it was Ruby Tuesday's.  I don't know what it was...

maybe lack of preparation?

I think what it may have been is the interviewer told me different things than my recruiter, and I acted confused and flustered in front of the interviewer.  I realize now that was a stupid move on my part and I should have waited until I got out of the office to call my recruiter and talk it over with him...
85  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update Season XIV: The new chapter on: April 14, 2014, 09:40:20 pm
This is all so INTERESTING!!! 

Bushie, I would hope that the Ruby Tuesday's pregame did not result in an ill-timed bout of flatulance?  That would be most tragic : (

Still pullin for ya!

Huh?

Apparently Ruby Tuesday's played a role in the interview that had nothing to do with greasy shirts or onion breath.  I just hope thay Bushie isn't ripping ass through these interviews.  It's tragic because Ruby Tuesday's is actually quite good.   

I wasn't "making music".  I don't think it was Ruby Tuesday's.  I don't know what it was...
86  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update Season XIV: The new chapter on: April 14, 2014, 09:24:52 pm
have you walked recently?

do you feel bad that you wasted over $100 to buy 'walking gear?'

I haven't walked in several days.

It does seem like a crazy move initially, but I haven't given up walking totally.
87  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update Season XIV: The new chapter on: April 14, 2014, 09:22:03 pm
Alright, guys, I'm done with discussing religion for right now.  I don't want an argument tonight, as I'm in too good of a mood despite losing a job offer earlier this evening.  Let's move on to a different topic, shall we?

Have you bought a set of dumbbells yet??

Not yet.

You are waiting for what??

Nothing, just haven't bought them, yet.
88  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update Season XIV: The new chapter on: April 14, 2014, 09:21:03 pm
Alright, guys, I'm done with discussing religion for right now.  I don't want an argument tonight, as I'm in too good of a mood despite losing a job offer earlier this evening.  Let's move on to a different topic, shall we?

Which one was it? Sad

The one I interviewed for Friday.
89  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update Season XIV: The new chapter on: April 14, 2014, 09:20:42 pm
Alright, guys, I'm done with discussing religion for right now.  I don't want an argument tonight, as I'm in too good of a mood despite losing a job offer earlier this evening.  Let's move on to a different topic, shall we?

Have you bought a set of dumbbells yet??

Not yet.
90  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update Season XIV: The new chapter on: April 14, 2014, 09:14:22 pm
Alright, guys, I'm done with discussing religion for right now.  I don't want an argument tonight, as I'm in too good of a mood despite losing a job offer earlier this evening.  Let's move on to a different topic, shall we?
91  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update Season XIV: The new chapter on: April 14, 2014, 08:55:17 pm
Would you stop questioning my faith?  I know what I believe and nobody can even attempt to convince me otherwise.

I think many people have attempted to do just that.  They haven't been successful, but they've attempted.


My faith is rock solid.
92  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update Season XIV: The new chapter on: April 14, 2014, 08:52:13 pm
This just in:  The lower-paying job in Tulsa (the one I interviewed for Friday) fell through.  I still have the higher paying job waiting to hear back from.  Then, I have two more applications in Tulsa and two more in Oklahoma City that I just applied for today.  Sooner or later, I'll get a job. I believe God is intimately involved in my job search, and no one can convince me otherwise, nor should they try.
And that's why you're unemployed? Because God wanted you to stay unemployed?

I believe God has a specific job out there for me.  I just haven't found it, yet.  God knows which job I will fit the best in and knows what job is best for my life.  He knows what's best for me even better than I do.  He knows me better than I know myself.  As long as I do my part in applying and interviewing, the results are up to Him ultimately.  He will sustain me during this period, too.

This type of thinking is even more dangerous than your health.

Ehh.  I can't change this view.  The Bible governs my life and these views are Biblical.

Bushie, you're taking the Christian concept of "vocation" to an absurd conclusion. If you want to believe God has called you to be a CAD designer, fine. But if you are going to sit there with a straight face and type that you believe God is going to deliver a job into your lap like manna from heaven, you are truly crazy. That doesn't just require suspension of disbelief, it requires suspension of logic.

You obviously have not been reading the past two pages have you?  I have not said that God will just toss a job into my lap, but as long as I do everything I can like apply and do my best at the interviews, then the results are up to Him (i.e. out of my hands).


It isn't up to him.  It is up to you to do you part in having a strong resume that gets call back, and doing well in the interview.  After that it is up to the HR person, hiring manager, etc.  God has NOTHING to do with you getting a job.  Was On-Company something God did??

Would you stop questioning my faith?  I know what I believe and nobody can even attempt to convince me otherwise.
93  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update Season XIV: The new chapter on: April 14, 2014, 08:50:55 pm

Ephesians 2:8-9 - "For it is by grace are ye saved through faith and that not of yourselves.  Not of works, lest any man should boast."

That's plain and clear.  Just as I cannot work my way into heaven, I cannot lose my salvation.  Once saved, always saved, and that is a FACT!

James 2:24 -  "You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone."

Can you please stop using 'fact' when talking about your absolutist interpretation of the Bible?

Can you quit questioning my faith or implying it's superficial?
94  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update Season XIV: The new chapter on: April 14, 2014, 08:40:57 pm

Ephesians 2:8-9 - "For it is by grace are ye saved through faith and that not of yourselves.  Not of works, lest any man should boast."

That's plain and clear.  Just as I cannot work my way into heaven, I cannot lose my salvation.  Once saved, always saved, and that is a FACT!
95  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update Season XIV: The new chapter on: April 14, 2014, 08:35:41 pm
This just in:  The lower-paying job in Tulsa (the one I interviewed for Friday) fell through.  I still have the higher paying job waiting to hear back from.  Then, I have two more applications in Tulsa and two more in Oklahoma City that I just applied for today.  Sooner or later, I'll get a job. I believe God is intimately involved in my job search, and no one can convince me otherwise, nor should they try.
And that's why you're unemployed? Because God wanted you to stay unemployed?

I believe God has a specific job out there for me.  I just haven't found it, yet.  God knows which job I will fit the best in and knows what job is best for my life.  He knows what's best for me even better than I do.  He knows me better than I know myself.  As long as I do my part in applying and interviewing, the results are up to Him ultimately.  He will sustain me during this period, too.

This type of thinking is even more dangerous than your health.

Ehh.  I can't change this view.  The Bible governs my life and these views are Biblical.

I am far from the most religious person in the world, nor do I study the bible, but I somehow don't think God will get you a job, is in the bible. 

Actually, it is, but not in those words.  Philippians 4:19 says "My God shall supply ALL your needs according to His riches in glory in Christ Jesus."  A job is a need, so he will provide it.

I don't think this is the kind of context in which that passage was intended to read.

Why wouldn't it?  God is concerned with EVERY aspect of my life and nothing is a waste of time for Him, because He is not limited by time.
96  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update Season XIV: The new chapter on: April 14, 2014, 08:34:27 pm
This just in:  The lower-paying job in Tulsa (the one I interviewed for Friday) fell through.  I still have the higher paying job waiting to hear back from.  Then, I have two more applications in Tulsa and two more in Oklahoma City that I just applied for today.  Sooner or later, I'll get a job. I believe God is intimately involved in my job search, and no one can convince me otherwise, nor should they try.
And that's why you're unemployed? Because God wanted you to stay unemployed?

I believe God has a specific job out there for me.  I just haven't found it, yet.  God knows which job I will fit the best in and knows what job is best for my life.  He knows what's best for me even better than I do.  He knows me better than I know myself.  As long as I do my part in applying and interviewing, the results are up to Him ultimately.  He will sustain me during this period, too.

This type of thinking is even more dangerous than your health.

Ehh.  I can't change this view.  The Bible governs my life and these views are Biblical.

Bushie, you're taking the Christian concept of "vocation" to an absurd conclusion. If you want to believe God has called you to be a CAD designer, fine. But if you are going to sit there with a straight face and type that you believe God is going to deliver a job into your lap like manna from heaven, you are truly crazy. That doesn't just require suspension of disbelief, it requires suspension of logic.

You obviously have not been reading the past two pages have you?  I have not said that God will just toss a job into my lap, but as long as I do everything I can like apply and do my best at the interviews, then the results are up to Him (i.e. out of my hands).
97  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update Season XIV: The new chapter on: April 14, 2014, 08:30:49 pm
This just in:  The lower-paying job in Tulsa (the one I interviewed for Friday) fell through.  I still have the higher paying job waiting to hear back from.  Then, I have two more applications in Tulsa and two more in Oklahoma City that I just applied for today.  Sooner or later, I'll get a job. I believe God is intimately involved in my job search, and no one can convince me otherwise, nor should they try.
And that's why you're unemployed? Because God wanted you to stay unemployed?

I believe God has a specific job out there for me.  I just haven't found it, yet.  God knows which job I will fit the best in and knows what job is best for my life.  He knows what's best for me even better than I do.  He knows me better than I know myself.  As long as I do my part in applying and interviewing, the results are up to Him ultimately.  He will sustain me during this period, too.

This type of thinking is even more dangerous than your health.

Ehh.  I can't change this view.  The Bible governs my life and these views are Biblical.

I am far from the most religious person in the world, nor do I study the bible, but I somehow don't think God will get you a job, is in the bible. 

Actually, it is, but not in those words.  Philippians 4:19 says "My God shall supply ALL your needs according to His riches in glory in Christ Jesus."  A job is a need, so he will provide it.
98  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update Season XIV: The new chapter on: April 14, 2014, 08:17:26 pm
This just in:  The lower-paying job in Tulsa (the one I interviewed for Friday) fell through.  I still have the higher paying job waiting to hear back from.  Then, I have two more applications in Tulsa and two more in Oklahoma City that I just applied for today.  Sooner or later, I'll get a job. I believe God is intimately involved in my job search, and no one can convince me otherwise, nor should they try.
And that's why you're unemployed? Because God wanted you to stay unemployed?

I believe God has a specific job out there for me.  I just haven't found it, yet.  God knows which job I will fit the best in and knows what job is best for my life.  He knows what's best for me even better than I do.  He knows me better than I know myself.  As long as I do my part in applying and interviewing, the results are up to Him ultimately.  He will sustain me during this period, too.

This type of thinking is even more dangerous than your health.

Ehh.  I can't change this view.  The Bible governs my life and these views are Biblical.
99  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update Season XIV: The new chapter on: April 14, 2014, 07:23:41 pm
I wonder what Bushie is doing wrong in these interviews? Wasn't the Tulsa job like 3 people for 2 positions?

he ate at ruby tuesday beforehand.

But, I didn't have onions or garlic (can't stand either one of them, frankly) and I didn't dribble any mustard or grease on my shirt.

For this particular interview, I think it was just not a good fit.  They were a mix of Mechanical and Civil Drafting (a lot of pipeline work), so I probably would have struggled if I had gotten hired.  Plus, it didn't pay much, so I'm not exactly heartbroken.
100  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update Season XIV: The new chapter on: April 14, 2014, 06:42:07 pm
He's lives in exurban Oklahoma City. It's been Republican for decades.

It's becoming more suburban than exurban, lately, and yes we are primarily Republican, but we do have a few Blue Dog's hanging around.  There is an occasional Yellow Dog Progressive that floats around here, too.
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