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1  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: After Nazi Germany and the Confederacy, who are the biggest villains to the US? on: Today at 12:30:59 pm
The Republican Party

The EdgeLord is strong with this one.
2  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Opinion of Billy Graham on: Today at 12:14:57 pm
Anti-Semitic HP although admittedly nowhere near as bad as his son.
3  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Falwell Jr:Trump praised white supremacist rally cuz he had ‘inside information’ on: Today at 12:11:26 pm
This is exactly the sort of thing people mean when they say separation of church and state wasn't just meant to protect politics from theocratic influence.  Folks like Robertson, the Falwells, Dobson, etc have been doing enormous damage to the ability of Christian religious leaders to speak with any sort of credible moral authority for decades.  It'll take at least a few generations for anyone to consider taking an evangelical leader seriously as anything other than a political hack.  Even their followers don't respect them as moral or spiritual leaders any more; if they did they wouldn't viciously turn on folks like Russell Moore overnight.  The only reason it would make sense for a member of the Southern Baptist Convention to be furious about Moore's criticism of Trump is if they view their clergy as political figures first-and-foremost whose job is to validate the congregation's pre-existing political views (as opposed to seeing clergy as religious figures whose chief role is to provide moral and spiritual leadership).
4  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Petition to unban Eharding on: Today at 11:51:03 am
He was banned for no reason, other than the fact that a lot of people (especially biased moderators like Kalwejt and Virginia) really hate his views. Everyone, including him, has the right to free speech. On this site, we should not hate other posters simply for their views. Atlas should be a site where users can express their own opinions freely without the fear that it will lead them to being banned for no reason (again, personal political views are not a reason for a ban). This was completely unfair to Eharding. Make Atlas Great Again!

x Heisenberg

Actually, personal political views can be a completely legitimate reason for banning someone (ex: white supremacists and anti-Semites).  You have a right to free speech and private forums have the right to ban you for using it to express hateful or repulsive views.  Nothing wrong with shoving bigots and rape apologists back down into whatever sewer they came from.  The biggest moderation problem on Atlas is that the cave is too lenient/slow to bring down the ban hammer.  Of course, Eharding was banned for constantly spamming every thread he posted in as opposed to his political views, but you knew that already.
5  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Chris Matthews on: Today at 10:32:29 am
An obnoxious blowhard with no principles even by the standards of TV media hacks.  Matthews isn't liberal, conservative, or any other ideology...he's just a shill for whichever way he thinks the wind is blowing.  I mean, MSNBC's brand is "liberal Fox," but even then Matthews has been towing the company line more than anything else.  

More importantly, he can get really creepy around female reporters (look up the clip of him slobbering over Erin Burnett on air and asking her to smile more if you want an example, although there are much worse ones out there, it's kinda a thing with Matthews and even folks who watch his show generally acknowledge that it's pretty gross).  The man is gonna get himself fired for sexual harassment one of these days if he's not careful and I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he goes down O'Reilly style (although Matthews doesn't strike me as a violent or aggressive guy the way O'Reilly did [pretty sure his bargain basement O'Reilly schtick is largely for effect and I suspect everyone except Fox is being a bit more careful after O'Reilly, Ailes, Shine, and Bolling went down in such a relatively short span of time...the guy on Fox and Friends who isn't Steve Doocy looked like he might in serious trouble too at one point IIRC, but idk if anything came of that or not).  

Ultimately, Matthews is a dinosaur who hasn't learned to adapt and it's gonna catch up with him one of these days.  It may not be the sexual harassment (O'Reilly), calling someone a "right-wing slut" on national television (Ed Schultz), or the stories about how he's such a pain in the [Inks] to work with that the executives decided it just wasn't worth the aggravation (Olbermann), but I doubt his career ends with voluntary retirement.  I'm sure there will be a place for him at RT though.  Matthews is the type who desperately needs the attention and feeling of validation having his own show can provide.  A deeply insecure and approval-craving man, that one.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2008/04/13/magazine/13matthews-t.html

The above is a really great profile of Matthews for anyone interested.  Unlike the usual fluff piece and hit-job profiles, this one really does an excellent job explaining what makes him tick and treats its subject in a fair manner (which isn't to say Matthews comes off well, he generally doesn't) despite being very much a warts-and-all piece.  Props to the author for asking Matthews some tough and direct questions about his behavior toward female reporters (including about how Matthews' wife reacted to the Erin Burnett incident).  It's pretty long, but definitely worth reading (it's also a fairly interesting read and you get a real - albeit dated - sense of the internal politics at MSNBC and NBC; Fox wasn't the only place where a bunch of big egos in a small room caused some self-inflicted wounds with their infighting).
6  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: After Nazi Germany and the Confederacy, who are the biggest villains to the US? on: Today at 09:29:52 am
In terms of popular culture:

1. Nazis
2. The USSR
3. Miscellaneous
7  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Concert of Europe: Rules and General Discussion Thread on: August 19, 2017, 02:41:46 pm
Reading the account of Augustus' downfall was like a freaking thriller.

Yes, it was a lot of fun.  Btw, I do hope you make more of those flag cartoons for this game at some point.  Those things were hilarious even when they were for a game I hadn't played in Tongue
8  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Concert of Europe: Rules and General Discussion Thread on: August 19, 2017, 01:11:28 pm
You pertinently know that I absolutely love this character and that this isn't meant as an insult. I seem to recall not a long time us talking via PM and I told you "I think you are literally Cersei Lannister." And you answered me by saying "Oh yes I totally agree :p". So I truly wonder why now you seem to throw an outrage about this suggestion, feeling insulted considering you *literally* agreed with this comparison last week, if not to try to portray me as the mean big villain and you as my victim?

And regarding as playing the Pope, well we both seem to agree on this. I wanted guarantees on this, and I have them, so have fun playing him Smiley.

It sounds like we had a bit of a misunderstanding last week, I was agreeing with you that my biggest weakness as a player in these games is that I often have so many plans going on at once that there is always a major risk of one blowing up in my face.  I completely disagreed with the Cersei comparison (and remember being mildly annoyed by it even then), but I didn't press the point because it was clear from the context of the conversation that you didn't mean it as an insult.  We all have to choose our battles Tongue  However, in the context of your recent post, I'm hard pressed to see how it could be taken as anything except an insult (especially given what came immediately after it).  But in the interest of resolving this, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

This isn't a victim vs. big mean villain thing, btw.  I simply did not appreciate your tirade when Spamage announced that I was going to rejoin as Pope.  I think that's more than a little melodramatic.  Anyway, like I said, I don't think this thread is the place to do this; it's not fair to Spamage or the other players.  Honestly, I don't have the energy to expend going around and around about this, so let's just try to move on.
9  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Petition to unban Eharding on: August 19, 2017, 12:01:43 pm
Didn't he make a sock here that, you know, was actually a quality posted? I hated Eharding as much as the next guy when he was here, but the mods seemed to accelerate very quickly. AFAIK, these "petitions" don't mean jack, but it's worth giving him a second chance.

LOL. It was INTENTIONALLY a garbage poster that spouted terrible #analysis. BY HIS OWN ADMISSION. It's weird more than one poster thought that sock was worthwhile when Eharding himself has stated that the analysis and thoughts it posted were supposed to be bad.

In other words, this is another doomed effort to dump an AAD sh!tposter here because you guys can't handle the inevitable consequences of a forum that (usually) doesn't ban anyone.  Good to know Tongue
10  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Concert of Europe: Rules and General Discussion Thread on: August 19, 2017, 11:57:39 am
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ALSO, nice playing by X, but his subjects were not going to back switching sides so soon, especially after the others had aided the rebels against him. We've been talking and he'd like to remain in the game, though not as Poland-Lithuania. Next turn he will take on the role of Benedict XIV and attempt to steer the Vatican though what has been an interesting conflict so far.

Are you serious???

I mean, I like him at personal level but he's going to play a character who will have such a massive impact on many players. What if he decides to excommunicate me for no reason? He always ends up betraying me in all the games we play for no ing reason. It's a very bad idea to have the Pope being playable as it could have so many consequences.

So I suppose the agreements I passed with the Pope in the beginning of the game to reform my realm will no longer in effect too?



Well I'm glad you meant what you said about not taking these games personally Roll Eyes

And I've "betrayed" you once for a perfectly understandable reason.  The game of thrones game wasn't a betrayal b/c we were never on the same side as far as I was concerned.  House Tyrell was a pawn that had developed a mind of its own and gone completely off the reservation from my in-game POV.  I never hid the fact that I completely disagreed with your plan (which ran directly counter to my own goals) and even directly told you as much IRC.  It's only natural that I opposed an early peace which would end the War of the Five Kings early and killing you was the best way to make your coalition fall apart before it solidified since I couldn't talk you out of it.  Btw, I was playing as Littlefinger so complaining about me doing that is basically like complaining about me playing IC.  And even then, I tried to exhaust all other options first.  

In this game, I "betrayed" you for completely legitimate reasons which I've already explained to you privately.  It was a gamble based on the info available to me at the time and a logical one from Poland's POV.  You didn't tell me anything about getting the Pope's help nor could I have ever foreseen that Dkrolga would essentially declare war on Catholics.  For most of my time in this game, I was a pretty good ally despite serious reservations.  I gave useful advice (which you even ended up agreeing with more than a few times), did everything I could to protect you from the mistakes other players wanted you to make (ex: going to war on the first turn), gave feedback about how you could improve your overall strength as a player, and even gathered quite a bit of useful intell.

And btw, it's a bit insulting that you're essentially trying to dictate who I'm allowed to play as before I've even done anything.  I mean, it's just game.  I could make complaints about your in-game style too, but that wouldn't really be productive right now.  Believe it or not, I don't go into these games thinking "gosh, how can I screw over Windjammer?"  You can ask Lumine, Dereich, Spamage, or really anyone who I've played these games with often, I play to have fun and that's about it.  Dereich might even argue that I focus on having fun to a fault tbh (ex: The UN game), but I'll let him speak for himself.  Do I betray folks sometimes?  Sure, but it's never personal or based on some sort of vendetta.  I always have a plan...not always a good one, but I'm always a man with a plan in these games Tongue  Sometimes you get outplayed or betrayed and that's just how it goes.  If you take things so personally, you won't enjoy the games as much.  

P.S: I wasn't planning to excommunicate you, the thought literally never crossed my mind.  Maybe it might make sense to see what I do before getting so riled up.  I might surprise you and who knows, you might end up liking what I had planned Tongue  And negative thinking yields negative results.

Let me be clear about something, I don't think you have a "personal vendetta" against me, but what I believe however that you are literally Cersei Lannister, a tornado that ends up screwing up everyone, including yourself with your 20 dimension chess playing.

I wouldn't have made an objection if you were playing any other countries, including Russia, because this is a game and being betrayed is a part of this game.

Howevern tearing the church apart for literally 70% of Europe is too far for me and not a risk I would like to take. How is it difficult to understand? I oppose a so strong character can be playable as it could have many many wide consequences. But since Spamage's last statement, I don't oppose you playing this strong character anymore.

- I mean, you can believe whatever you want, but that doesn't make it true.  That comparison is both completely inaccurate and more than a little insulting.  I don't have time to get into all the problems with it and I know we have very different views on the character, but how am I not supposed to take that as an insult on multiple levels?  

- Here's the thing though, you don't get to dictate who I play as, period.  If you don't want me playing as a really strong character for whatever reason, with all due respect, that's too bad.  I'm sorry if you're worried I might inconvenience you, but I'm allowed to enjoy the game too.

- Believe me, I understand what you're saying; you're coming through loud and clear.  We're not having a misunderstanding, it's what you're saying that I have a problem with.  You had literally no basis whatsoever for assuming I was going to do something like that and yet you basically went on a small public tirade about how I can't be trusted with the responsibility of playing as such an important country because I'd betray you in a completely OOC way for "no ing reason."  Then when I responded, you said that I was "literally Cersei Lannister, a tornado that ends up screwing up everyone, including yourself;" again how am I supposed to take that as anything other than an insult?  And Spamage's statement shouldn't have even been necessary; I mean, give me a little bit of credit here.

The irony is that I'm pretty sure you're literally the only person who ever even considered the possibility of excommunicating the King of France.  It certainly never crossed my mind.  This is the sort of thing I meant when I said that you can get a bit paranoid in these games in a way that can alienate folks.  Fortunately, I don't take these games too personally, but if I were the type of person who did then you'd have made an enemy out of ally for no reason.

Anyway, this is probably the last post I'll be making on this subject because I don't want to derail Spamage's thread any more than we already have.
11  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Concert of Europe: Rules and General Discussion Thread on: August 19, 2017, 10:15:37 am
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ALSO, nice playing by X, but his subjects were not going to back switching sides so soon, especially after the others had aided the rebels against him. We've been talking and he'd like to remain in the game, though not as Poland-Lithuania. Next turn he will take on the role of Benedict XIV and attempt to steer the Vatican though what has been an interesting conflict so far.

Are you serious???

I mean, I like him at personal level but he's going to play a character who will have such a massive impact on many players. What if he decides to excommunicate me for no reason? He always ends up betraying me in all the games we play for no ing reason. It's a very bad idea to have the Pope being playable as it could have so many consequences.

So I suppose the agreements I passed with the Pope in the beginning of the game to reform my realm will no longer in effect too?



Well I'm glad you meant what you said about not taking these games personally Roll Eyes

And I've "betrayed" you once for a perfectly understandable reason.  The game of thrones game wasn't a betrayal b/c we were never on the same side as far as I was concerned.  House Tyrell was a pawn that had developed a mind of its own and gone completely off the reservation from my in-game POV.  I never hid the fact that I completely disagreed with your plan (which ran directly counter to my own goals) and even directly told you as much IRC.  It's only natural that I opposed an early peace which would end the War of the Five Kings early and killing you was the best way to make your coalition fall apart before it solidified since I couldn't talk you out of it.  Btw, I was playing as Littlefinger so complaining about me doing that is basically like complaining about me playing IC.  And even then, I tried to exhaust all other options first.  

In this game, I "betrayed" you for completely legitimate reasons which I've already explained to you privately.  It was a gamble based on the info available to me at the time and a logical one from Poland's POV.  You didn't tell me anything about getting the Pope's help nor could I have ever foreseen that Dkrolga would essentially declare war on Catholics.  For most of my time in this game, I was a pretty good ally despite serious reservations.  I gave useful advice (which you even ended up agreeing with more than a few times), did everything I could to protect you from the mistakes other players wanted you to make (ex: going to war on the first turn), gave feedback about how you could improve your overall strength as a player, and even gathered quite a bit of useful intell.

And btw, it's a bit insulting that you're essentially trying to dictate who I'm allowed to play as before I've even done anything.  I mean, it's just game.  I could make complaints about your in-game style too, but that wouldn't really be productive right now.  Believe it or not, I don't go into these games thinking "gosh, how can I screw over Windjammer?"  You can ask Lumine, Dereich, Spamage, or really anyone who I've played these games with often, I play to have fun and that's about it.  Dereich might even argue that I focus on having fun to a fault tbh (ex: The UN game), but I'll let him speak for himself.  Do I betray folks sometimes?  Sure, but it's never personal or based on some sort of vendetta.  I always have a plan...not always a good one, but I'm always a man with a plan in these games Tongue  Sometimes you get outplayed or betrayed and that's just how it goes.  If you take things so personally, you won't enjoy the games as much.  

P.S: I wasn't planning to excommunicate you, the thought literally never crossed my mind.  Maybe it might make sense to see what I do before getting so riled up.  I might surprise you and who knows, you might end up liking what I had planned Tongue  And negative thinking yields negative results.
12  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Petition to unban Eharding on: August 18, 2017, 10:55:36 pm
Since that might get him to stop posting on AAD, or at least post less.

X BRTD

Nah, AAD is right where Eharding belongs.
13  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Concert of Europe: Rules and General Discussion Thread on: August 18, 2017, 05:10:32 pm
Indeed, let us move fast. I can't wait for the results!
14  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: "Art of the Deal" Ghostwriter predicts that Trump will resign by end of year on: August 18, 2017, 02:19:40 pm
He wants attention.

Hard to say, while I don't see Trump resigning, this guy has shown a remarkable level of insight into what makes Trump tick.
15  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Who's the next to go? on: August 18, 2017, 02:17:06 pm
Mulvaney.  The man is a complete idiot and when the budget and debt-ceiling fights pop up, he's gonna be the one who's head is on the chopping block.
16  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Concert of Europe: Rules and General Discussion Thread on: August 17, 2017, 09:39:53 pm
Really?, really d4runk( please disregard any orders I send tonight
17  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Petition to ban Coraxion on: August 17, 2017, 03:26:12 pm
we should ban everyone who takes part in the stupid and weird 'new hampshire women' meme thing

Probably.

Also don't ban Cora, good counterweight to Krazen.

Both should obviously be banned, but Cora's worse.  AFAIK, Krazen's never called for blowing up school buses full of children even if he is a repulsive bigot.
18  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Ban ChairmanSanchez on: August 16, 2017, 07:17:01 pm
I think Sanchez's personal...problems are enough of a punishment for him.
You're glad my brother is autistic? Whatever dickbag.
Was that caused by the same undesirable, inbred genes that caused you to become a neo-Nazi alt-rightist?

Says the self-described anti-Semite who supports the cold-blooded murder of Jewish children.
Both strawmen. 

How so? 

Jews tend to support the Zionist entity, including its wars. Oh, and calling us anti-Semites is pointless because we (anti-Zionists) wear that name as a badge of pride these days.

Call me old-fashioned, but I always considered deliberately blowing up civilians and using the cold-blooded murder of non-combatants as a political strategy to be terrorism.  Then again, I also have this crazy idea that maybe...juuuuuuust maybe, it's wrong to try to blow up school buses filled with innocent children, so what do I know?
Israel has more blood on its hands. It's unfortunate, but some of those things are necessary to send a message.
19  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The Mooch's temporary successor has been named on: August 16, 2017, 05:43:48 pm
she's had to give alot of jobs to get this job
You're sexism is repulsive and has no place in America.

D*** right it doesn't and neither does Trump's; I assume you voted against him once it became clear he was a sex predator because otherwise you'd be a pathetically obvious hypocrite (to say the least).
20  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Ban ChairmanSanchez on: August 16, 2017, 05:35:21 pm
I think Sanchez's personal...problems are enough of a punishment for him.
You're glad my brother is autistic? Whatever dickbag.
Was that caused by the same undesirable, inbred genes that caused you to become a neo-Nazi alt-rightist?

Says the self-described anti-Semite who supports the cold-blooded murder of Jewish children.
21  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The Mooch's temporary successor has been named on: August 16, 2017, 05:24:05 pm
Lefty misogynists are my favorite.  Tongue

Men can sleep their way to the top too you know

Trump f**ked everyone in America to get to the presidency

You're still a sexist pig.
22  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: West Wing reboot? on: August 16, 2017, 04:20:53 pm
Why?
23  Forum Community / Election and History Games / Re: Concert of Europe: Rules and General Discussion Thread on: August 15, 2017, 05:21:52 pm

Spamage nailed it *shudder*
24  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump is currently voiding everything he said yesterday on: August 15, 2017, 03:47:41 pm

Just b/c this the internet doesn't mean it's suddenly okay for white people to use the n-word.
25  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Happy Birthday Kalwejt! on: August 15, 2017, 12:01:11 pm
Happy birthday!
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