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1  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1980 Primaries (The Hearse at Monticello) on: August 28, 2015, 09:04:50 pm
All aboard the Crane train! Tongue
2  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: IL-Sen. 2016 Thread: Cook Co. Dems won't endorse Duckworth on: August 28, 2015, 02:10:25 pm

No, when the CoC does it, they're dumb because Zopp still won't win the primary.

It also potentially ups Duckworth's negatives.

The GOP's problem here isn't so much Duckworth as it is that Kirk seems hellbent on getting himself Blanched.

I suppose that comparison makes a little more sense now, since I see a parallel between the Boozman primary and Duckworth's - the primary challengers still want a challenge, but it's obvious who is going to win the primary.

But what I find especially odd is that the Democratic Party, even in states like this, are usually direly allergic to primaries. And yet the party apparatus seems to be actively encouraging it. Is there something about Duckworth as a candidate we don't know?

Duckworth has always been the national party's creature, so to speak.  The Cook County Democratic establishment (i.e. the state party) in general and Chicago's African-American political machine in particular just want one of their own puppets in the seat rather than a puppet of the D.C. Democratic establishment.  A Senate seat's a f***ing valuable thing, they're not just gonna give it away for nothing Tongue
3  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: IL-Sen. 2016 Thread: Cook Co. Dems won't endorse Duckworth on: August 28, 2015, 12:23:58 pm

No, when the CoC does it, they're dumb because Zopp still won't win the primary.

It also potentially ups Duckworth's negatives.

The GOP's problem here isn't so much Duckworth as it is that Kirk seems hellbent on getting himself Blanched.
4  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: IL-Sen. 2016 Thread: Cook Co. Dems won't endorse Duckworth on: August 27, 2015, 09:45:28 pm

No, when the CoC does it, they're dumb because Zopp still won't win the primary.
5  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: IL-Sen. 2016 Thread: Cook Co. Dems won't endorse Duckworth on: August 27, 2015, 01:19:10 pm
Harris sounds like a C-lister from what I've read about him.
6  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Would you rather discuss music with BRTD or discuss sex and gender with Antonio? on: August 26, 2015, 05:38:58 pm
Antonio and this isn't even close.
7  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: IL-Sen. 2016 Thread: Kirk likens Iran "appeasement" to WWII on: August 26, 2015, 02:12:25 pm

Obviously the good government types and idealistic reformers who run the Cook County Democratic Party were disgusted by Duckworth's ties to the corrupt Chicago Democratic machine.
8  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Crossdressing on: August 24, 2015, 06:29:58 pm
I've crossdressed more than once and to assume that all men who crossdress are doing it for sexual or perverted reasons is kind of insensitive, to be flat honest.

Men wearing dresses, bras, etc is extremely creepy regardless of their reasons for doing so, imo.
9  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Could we just allow him back on: August 23, 2015, 09:09:11 am
No, because we're not Neville Chamberlain.
10  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: More scat porn on: August 23, 2015, 08:51:53 am
I got one too Sad
11  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Crossdressing on: August 22, 2015, 02:07:37 pm
I have no problem with women cross-dressing if they want to, but men doing it is extremely creepy at best.

why?

It seems pretty self-evident that there's nothing wrong with women wearing something like pants, a suit, a tie, etc if they want to do so.  On the other hand, I find the whole idea of men wearing dresses, bras, etc extremely creepy.  Again, it seems pretty self-evident.
12  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Man grows Ear on his arm (to hook up to Internet)... should this be allowed? on: August 21, 2015, 10:50:19 pm
Scientists grow a complete human brain in a vat... has now grown to the size of a 5-week-old

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/08/150819083334.htm

This is an abomination!
13  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1976 Election (The Hearse at Monticello) on: August 21, 2015, 10:41:36 pm
Boo Sad
14  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Your honest reaction if Donald Trump wins the presidency on: August 21, 2015, 09:56:36 pm
frightened for the impending holocaust.

First they came for the Mexicans, and I did not speak out -
Because I am not Mexican

Then they came for the blacks, and I did not speak out -
Because I am not black

Then they came for the poor, and I did not speak out -
Because I am not poor

Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me!
15  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Crossdressing on: August 21, 2015, 03:21:58 pm
I have no problem with women cross-dressing if they want to, but men doing it is extremely creepy at best.
16  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Who do you most want to see drop out? on: August 20, 2015, 11:07:09 pm
Hillary
17  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1976 Election (The Hearse at Monticello) on: August 20, 2015, 12:11:03 pm
What is it with this forum's conservatives' obsession with Goldwaters and Tafts?

What's the "left-wingers'" obsession with George McGovern? Moreover, who cares?

Frank Church has already been elected to two terms in two different series, IIRC.
18  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1976 Election (The Hearse at Monticello) on: August 19, 2015, 08:40:07 pm
Taft/Jackson '76

It may not be the end of the world, but it'll have to do!
19  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1976 Primaries (The Hearse at Monticello) on: August 17, 2015, 08:55:46 pm
Taft/Jackson!
20  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Bacon King Memorial Good Post Gallery on: August 16, 2015, 11:39:06 am
His analysis won't get him hired by Nate Silver, but I can think of several posters more annoying. If he, or anyone else, gets stuff wrong: teach them, don't bash them. If you're as smart as you seem to think you are, then you'll turn a subjectively annoying poster into a good one, instead of chasing someone away.

Famous Mortimer, you seem to represent some of the worst of the internet: snobbery and putting down rape victims as fakers. The snobbery part is prevalent too often, and it's not noticed as much as it should be. I'm talking about calling people "the worst" instead of trying to help them, or even ignoring them. Where you feel that you're so important and the other person (Kingpoleon, in this case) is so bad that everyone needs to hear your opinion of how bad this person is. The putting down of rape victims is simply awful. Cut that out, please. I guess the silver lining is that, to be careful, you're really sure about asking for consent--but the motives are all wrong. Assuming that a person, when they talk about a terrible thing that happened to them, is lying just to get attention is, well, a very idiotic position to take.

Now, that's as far as you should go with the critique. I didn't make sweeping accusations about you (I said you seem to represent the internet's worst)--why? Because you're a person, and I don't know you. All that I did was tell you what you're doing wrong and why it's wrong--and now I'm telling you how, in my opinion, to get better. All you're doing is attacking the who of Kingpoleon--which is a line you shouldn't cross on the internet.

Let's keep it civil, everyone. Critique with the intent of making someone a better poster, yes, but never insult with no apparent intent except making someone feel bad.

I guess you didn't ask for my advice, but I gave it. Take it with a grain of salt if you like. But cut out the rape defence, please.
21  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: If Atlas had had a 'dislike' option since day 1, how many would BRTD have? on: August 15, 2015, 10:42:29 pm
Quite literally all of them.
22  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Will Napoleon be allowed back? on: August 15, 2015, 03:13:25 pm
"Napoleon" was a Hamilton sock, so thankfully no.
23  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Can someone at least back me up that Kingpoleon is the worst? on: August 15, 2015, 02:57:52 pm
Famous Mortimer really isn't in a position to be calling anyone the worst:

It's unpopular to say but I really do believe there are a lot of misguided women who would allow themselves to get "raped" rather than just say "no" even though saying "no" would likely stop many of the "rapists" Because if they said "no" and the guy did stop, then they wouldn't be able to complain about the omnipresent "rape culture"
What the f**k?

I know it seems weird but my friends post articles on Facebook all the time, I see comments on Jezebel and other websites.

At first I thought they were poorly constructed parodies but everyone appears to be taking them at face value. If anyone is even mildly critical, they are shouted down.

The story is always the same: Girl in college. Guy asks her out. She doesn't want to but agrees out of pity. She allows herself to get drunk. She agrees to go back to his place. She makes out with him even though she doesn't want to, again out of pity. They have sex. She doesn't say "no" but she either doesn't move or she says something like "slow down" or "please wear a condom" It's rape. After the rape, she may agree to hang out with him several more times, again apparently out of pity. She may even get "raped" a couple more times. The writer will then make clear that the worst part is this person doesn't even know he's a rapist! But they are!

I've seen variations on that story so many times over the past couple years.

Also, just to be clear, nothing like that has ever happened to me. I always wait for enthusiastic consent and use a safe word even when I'm not doing anything particularly kinky, just because I'm terrified of these chicks being out there.


Those groups definitely exist but I still do think there are women who seek out the attention that being "raped" brings. I once knew in a girl, IRL, who claimed her long term boyfriend raped her because he got her to go along with sex even though she was sick and didn't feel like it. She admitted she didn't say "no" she just acquiesced to having sex with the guy she lived with and shared a bed with. She kept going out with the guy for 2 years after that also. Of course, after she told that story, everyone in the room told her what a brave, beautiful survivor she was. That's why some women try to read rape into all their past sexual encounters, the attention, it's like Munchhausen syndrome.

Of course, I don't think things like this constitute a majority of rape accusations, but they do exist. People practically brag about their rapes the way people used to brag about their bad childhoods to show how deep and interesting they are.

If a girl agrees to go on a date with you and agrees to go back to your place after that date, that would seem to be fairly clear implied consent to most people. If that's not the case, the girl needs to give a clear "no" to cancel out the mixed messages.

"Do you want to come up to my place for a drink?" = "do you want to have sex?"

Everyone knows that because it's been repeated in every piece of media ever.

Anyone who doesn't know that is either a vegetable or being disingenuous.

Obviously if you agree to a drink and say "NO" you mean "NO"

but if you agree to a drink and you don't say anything, you will come off as being coy, and that's probably your intention unless you're mentally ill or an idiot.
24  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Bobloblaw Theatre of Absurdity, Ignorance, and Bad Posts V on: August 15, 2015, 01:43:25 pm
In short: You can't criticize AAD groupthink/Kool Kidz Klub when you yourselves are breeding your own "exclusivity" here by dismissing everything from AAD in a kneejerk fashion.

I've never thought that there should be some sort of inherent divide between the two forums seeing as I like both but this is just getting ridiculous.
25  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Megathread: Congressional Vote on the Iran Deal on: August 15, 2015, 01:05:27 pm
Wouldn't Schumer seriously damage his chances of becoming the new Dem leader by voting against his own caucus on such critical issue? Real Democrats certainly shouldn't let that slip.
I think it might hurt him, but if he doesn't actively try to convince other Democrats and the bill will be passed, then he will be forgiven. Other Democrats will understand that he is not to be envied, as a Jewish senator in New York, the blue state were opposition against the Iran deal might be the highest. Supporting the deal might lead to a serious primary.

Democratic Jews don't care about foreign policy nearly as much as everyone seems to think. Otherwise they'd be solid Republicans by now. Also, despite what Netanyahu wants us to believe, he does not in fact speak for all Jews.

If Schumer fears he'll be primaried, it's just further proof that Democrats need to grow a spine.

Neither do you.

But a combination of Bibi, Bennett, Herzog, Lapid, Livni, and others do speak for Jews worldwide, and they all oppose this bad Iran deal.

*snip*

Except they really don't...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/on-the-iran-deal-american-jewish-leaders-dont-speak-for-all-jews/2015/08/14/988e577e-41d5-11e5-846d-02792f854297_story.html

Polls have consistently shown that most Jewish Americans support the deal.
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