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1  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: College Republicans Make [horrendous] Videos for 'Pub Governors on: October 01, 2014, 08:54:04 pm
This is worse than the demon sheep ad
2  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Has Pat Roberts Already Lost? on: October 01, 2014, 08:45:57 pm
Probably
3  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Petition for the Withdrawal of Mideast Speaker Hifly's Nomination as SoEA on: October 01, 2014, 12:41:54 pm
I must admit to being confused why the bulk of the opposition to hifly's nomination stems from his homophobia. Surely his equally repellent anti-Semitism and apologism for concentration camp guards (he probably didn't do anything wrong!) is more troubling in this context?

Thank goodness he can now Rest in Peace. Only God will be his judge, not the reactionaries and zionists!
Thank goodness he can now Rest in Peace. Only God will be his judge, not the reactionaries and zionists!

See what I meant in the other thread?

Not really. I'm just happy that the judicial reactionaries who wanted him tried for murder even though he probably didn't do anything wrong and the conservative zionists who wanted him hanged have been defeated. They have a really backward attitude to justice.


This one seems familiar -

On France, I would probably support Madame Le Pen over Hollande.

Bonus fun:

Drug smugglers are in my opinion the only underclass of heathen who come close to deserving the death penalty and/or compulsory sterilisation, and the latter penalty should also be avaliable for alcoholics.
I hardly have any sympathy for drug smugglers and consumers who are awarded the death penalty, although I do for virtually all other classes of criminals who are.

Yet these far-left degenerate hooligans still have the audacity to criticize their far-right opponents for being thuggish.
This is embarrassing for Hamburg.

Children ought to have a better upbringing than under a tribal Roma or Irish Traveller family.
The lack of concern among many families for the educational development of their children is a horrific indication of a backward culture which must modernise.

This is the person people want representing Atlasia on the world stage?

We the undersigned urge President DemPGH to withdraw the nomination of Mideast Speaker Hifly for the office of Secretary of Exterior Affairs.  As Speaker of the Mideast Assembly, Hifly recently rammed through legislation which would've forced the Mideast's schools to indoctrinate our children with radical anti-gay propaganda.  We believe that the President, particularly a President who has presented himself in the past as a champion of marriage equality, should not reward the most infamous anti-gay rights activist in the land with a cabinet post.  More importantly, the Secretary of Exterior Affairs plays a vital role in deciding matters such as whether Atlasia shall finally cease funding the homophobic hate ministries in nations such as Uganda, many of which advocate violence against the LGBT community.  Worst of all, Speaker Hifly has literally condemned efforts to bring SS guards at the Auschwitz Concentration Camp to justice, despite their involvement in one of the worst crimes in human history.  In light of these and other serious concerns about Speaker Hifly's judgement, we ask President DemPGH to stand with our nation's LGBT and Jewish communities against bigotry by withdrawing Speaker Hifly's nomination.


X Malcom X

I couldn't find some of his past anti-Semetic posts and only wanted to include the parts I was certain I could prove.
4  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: forum community feedback thread on: October 01, 2014, 01:41:55 am
BK has done an excellent job thus far. I am quite impressed.
5  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: FCC considering banning Redskins name on: October 01, 2014, 12:26:37 am
Good
6  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Petition for the Withdrawal of Mideast Speaker Hifly's Nomination as SoEA on: October 01, 2014, 12:03:25 am
Wait, why would anyone nominate Hifly for anything?

Ask President DemPGH and Griffin, they seem to be the ones championing his nomination.

Not championing his nomination: just not taking kindly to your latest attempt to sow discontent in Labor and align yourself with the most popular position on the most hot-button issue!



Roll Eyes
7  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Petition for the Withdrawal of Mideast Speaker Hifly's Nomination as SoEA on: September 30, 2014, 11:23:08 pm
Wait, why would anyone nominate Hifly for anything?

Ask President DemPGH and Griffin, they seem to be the ones championing his nomination.
8  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Labor Party Fall 2014 Convention - San Francisco, CA - BYLAWS on: September 30, 2014, 11:18:46 pm
I don't really understand how you think that someone not signing your specific protest makes them a support of hifly, and as you quote "unnamed sources" it's of little relevance.  Anyway, as I'll say for the third time, our party's position on this issue is clear, my position on this issue is clear as a rainbow and I don't think anything can be gained by cluttering up the convention thread any further.

I'll put it bluntly, if you won't call out Hifly (of all people) for his homophobic and anti-semetic views, it's that much less likely you'll condemn it when it is someone who is credible expresses such sentiments.  Honestly, I don't know how much clearer I can be.  I realize some people don't want to risk angering party bosses.  However, leadership is about doing the right thing even when it is not the politically expedient thing.  It's a shame no one in Labor has, thus far been willing to show real leadership on this issue.

We were the ones who brought the original issue to the forefront in the first place and led the charge for the bill to be vetoed. Huh Sometimes, a separation of situations is necessary in this game. Should we continue to hold against you the fact that you've rage-quit on at least one occasion, or assume that you'll be incapable of holding elected office in the future because you resigned from one in the past, or should all parties fear you because you changed your political affiliation no fewer than four times over the span of a few months? Something tells me you'd ask for immunity and reconsideration in such situations.

If you spent half as much time trying to contribute to the game as you did spinning one way or another in order to take advantage of what is seemingly most popular at the moment, I might be willing to indulge in what you're doing. Unfortunately, all I see is a messenger trying to take advantage of a situation for his own reasoning, much of which has nothing to do with the actual subject. In other words: get someone with some principle to do what you're doing, and I'll support it.

I have never rage-quit the game, so we can get that smear out of the way first off.  I did quit once because I was upset about losing a friend because of his disappointing behavior in the game, but I'd hardly call that rage-quiting.  You should hold against me the fact that I've resigned from multiple offices.  That's why I'm not running for office now or at any point in the future and you can hold me to that.  I'm willing to serve in appointed positions, but that's it.  That's what you do when you really care about helping the game, you put what's best for it ahead of your interests.  I know this is an alien concept for you, but try to bare with me.

I left the Liberal Party because it'd become a shameless personality cult with one of the worst posters (Wolfentoad) Atlasia has ever seen at its rotting core.  I didn't leave TPP, the party dissolved.  I left Labor because TPP came back.  By the way, that's three times, if you're gonna stoop to smears at least get the numbers right Wink

As for the question of principles, forgive me if I chuckle at someone who has proudly referred to himself as a "hack" talking about principles.  I have plenty and anyone who knows me knows that much is true.  Odd as it may sound, your problem is that you adhere to rigidly to principle.  That is not a bad thing in-and-of-itself, but you have only one principle: Labor dominance.  You'll eagerly sacrifice integrity, ideological values, anything at all for partisan political gain.  I will say that I believe you'd happily "indulge" what I'm doing, but only if it was of clear political benefit to Labor.  Anyway, I didn't mean to hijack your convention, so I'll have to end this little exchange.
9  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Labor Party Fall 2014 Convention - San Francisco, CA - BYLAWS on: September 30, 2014, 10:49:06 pm
Any and all Laborites are perfectly free to sign your blatant political stunt of a petition if they so choose; nobody is telling anyone to do otherwise. Perhaps it has more to do with the messenger than the message.

Roll Eyes  As I said before, talk is cheap.  If you support Hifly's views or are not willing to risk political fallout, fine, but at least have the dignity to admit it.  Actions speak louder than words and labor's lack of any sort of meaningful action speaks volumes.
10  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Labor Party Fall 2014 Convention - San Francisco, CA - BYLAWS on: September 30, 2014, 10:42:58 pm
I don't really understand how you think that someone not signing your specific protest makes them a support of hifly, and as you quote "unnamed sources" it's of little relevance.  Anyway, as I'll say for the third time, our party's position on this issue is clear, my position on this issue is clear as a rainbow and I don't think anything can be gained by cluttering up the convention thread any further.

I'll put it bluntly, if you won't call out Hifly (of all people) for his homophobic and anti-semetic views, it's that much less likely you'll condemn it when it is someone who is credible expresses such sentiments.  Honestly, I don't know how much clearer I can be.  I realize some people don't want to risk angering party bosses.  However, leadership is about doing the right thing even when it is not the politically expedient thing.  It's a shame no one in Labor has, thus far been willing to show real leadership on this issue.
11  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Labor Party Fall 2014 Convention - San Francisco, CA on: September 30, 2014, 10:28:23 pm
Labor's chairman is gay. I'm gay. Our Midwest Governor is the most gay. You have nothing to worry about, X. I promise on all of my gayness.

Believe me, the list is more extensive than that! Grin

But anyway, the idea that we somehow support hifly simply because we don't actively condemn him in our party's political platform is ludicrous.  The Labor Party platform is very explicit about where our party stands on LGBT+ rights and that should settle the matter.

So I take it you'll sign a petition opposing his nomination.  If the Labor Party truly is the party of marriage equality, one would expect that more than...well...zero Laborites would've signed the petition Tongue

Seeing as all of one person has signed your petition, I think your qualms might rest with the broader population of Atlasia rather then Labor.  Wink

I also think you'll find that every major political party supports marriage equality in Atlasia - it hasn't really been a defining issue for anyone for years and years.

I, obviously, oppose hifly's position on most everything, but that discussion isn't really relevant here and as I said, these issues are settled by the Labor platform which is party policy.

One person, thus far, but I have absolute confidence the people of Atlasia will ultimately fight against Mideast Speaker and noted Concentration Camp guard defender Hifly.  As for Labor, I have been personally been told by a number of Laborites who shall go unnamed that they are reluctant to sign for fear of political retaliation from certain individuals in the party.  I'm not saying they were threatened or anything, but clearly there is a concern among some about political retribution.  I've heard a lot of "I'll sign, but only if another Laborite does first" type comments as well. 

I'll admit that I may've over-estimated the political courage of certain Laborites.  I guess I figured people would be willing to stand against a vehemently homophobic defender of SS guards, but I guess that may be asking to much these days Sad  However, color me unimpressed by your claims to oppose what Hifly stands for.  At the end of the day, talk is cheap.  It's action that matters!  Sadly, all anyone in Labor has offered so far has been...well...talk.  Hopefully, you guys will prove me wrong on that score.

12  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Labor Party Fall 2014 Convention - San Francisco, CA on: September 30, 2014, 10:03:09 pm
Labor's chairman is gay. I'm gay. Our Midwest Governor is the most gay. You have nothing to worry about, X. I promise on all of my gayness.

Believe me, the list is more extensive than that! Grin

But anyway, the idea that we somehow support hifly simply because we don't actively condemn him in our party's political platform is ludicrous.  The Labor Party platform is very explicit about where our party stands on LGBT+ rights and that should settle the matter.

So I take it you'll sign a petition opposing his nomination.  If the Labor Party truly is the party of marriage equality, one would expect that more than...well...zero Laborites would've signed the petition Tongue
13  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Petition for the Withdrawal of Mideast Speaker Hifly's Nomination as SoEA on: September 30, 2014, 09:39:45 pm
We the undersigned urge President DemPGH to withdraw the nomination of Mideast Speaker Hifly for the office of Secretary of Exterior Affairs.  As Speaker of the Mideast Assembly, Hifly recently rammed through legislation which would've forced the Mideast's schools to indoctrinate our children with radical anti-gay propaganda.  We believe that the President, particularly a President who has presented himself in the past as a champion of marriage equality, should not reward the most infamous anti-gay rights activist in the land with a cabinet post.  More importantly, the Secretary of Exterior Affairs plays a vital role in deciding matters such as whether Atlasia shall finally cease funding the homophobic hate ministries in nations such as Uganda, many of which advocate violence against the LGBT community.  Worst of all, Speaker Hifly has literally condemned efforts to bring SS guards at the Auschwitz Concentration Camp to justice, despite their involvement in one of the worst crimes in human history.  In light of these and other serious concerns about Speaker Hifly's judgement, we ask President DemPGH to stand with our nation's LGBT and Jewish communities against bigotry by withdrawing Speaker Hifly's nomination.


X Malcom X
14  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Legends of the Atlasian Temple: TERROR ATTACK ON ATLASIA AND HER ALLIES on: September 30, 2014, 09:06:47 pm
I already got eaten my Godzilla while visiting Tokyo many months ago, I should've known the beast would be back to wreak havoc on Nyman Tongue

You actually decided to check out a life size Godzilla prop, misstepped and fell into her mouth...all the way to the floor. Although you can keep saying you got eaten by Godzilla, tis' fine.

I am clearly modern day Jonah, consumed not by a whale, but by a divine lizard monster sent by God to savage the nation of Japan Tongue
15  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Legends of the Atlasian Temple: TERROR ATTACK ON ATLASIA AND HER ALLIES on: September 30, 2014, 08:54:27 pm
I already got eaten my Godzilla while visiting Tokyo many months ago, I should've known the beast would be back to wreak havoc on Nyman Tongue
16  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Office of President DemPGH (Peace and Prosperity) on: September 30, 2014, 08:21:28 pm
I actually agree with the Labor guys on this. Sure, I hate hifly on gay issues, but being SoEA has nothing to do with that. The nominee, assuming he has the views I think he does, has my potential support as long as the confirmation hearing goes well and he clearly states what he wants to do with the role.

As fun as politicizing everything is, I just don't agree.

IRL, the U.S. has been funding ministries in Uganda that function essentially as anti-gay hate groups and in some cases even advocate violence against gays.  I imagine such an issue in Atlasia would be a question for the SoEA.  How would a SoEA Hifly handle this issue?
17  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Office of President DemPGH (Peace and Prosperity) on: September 30, 2014, 07:35:17 pm
As for your next appointment, I call your bluff and say that you're not going to top this pick.

I'm not sure if that is even possible.

That's what I mean, who could even appoint hypothetically?
18  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Office of President DemPGH (Peace and Prosperity) on: September 30, 2014, 07:17:31 pm
I'm strongly in favor of SSM, and there's plenty of documentation of that.

X, you're not confused, you're talking out of your rear end again.

The nominee will make a statement a bit later after which we'll move on. You guys won't like who is next up either. Wink

I'm not anatomically capable of talking out my rear end; are talkative rear-ends now a naturally occurring phenomenon? 

As for your next appointment, I call your bluff and say that you're not going to top this pick.
19  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Labor Party Fall 2014 Convention - San Francisco, CA on: September 30, 2014, 06:28:48 pm
Labor's chairman is gay. I'm gay. Our Midwest Governor is the most gay. You have nothing to worry about, X. I promise on all of my gayness.

Thank God we have all of these breeders here to inform us what's best for us!

Breeders?  Is that supposed to be a psuedo-derogatory term for heterosexuals or...?  I'm not even sure what you're trying to argue/say in this post Tongue
20  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Office of President DemPGH (Peace and Prosperity) on: September 30, 2014, 06:23:33 pm
So I see the two leaders of Atlasia's leading voice of the "left" have endorsed the architect of the Mideast Hate Bill, and seem to be attacking me for it. This is especially troubling coming from Adam Griffin, who seems to be more willing to fight for his party than his fellow kin.

The words of bigots are not worth hearing.

As far as I'm concerned, you are an accessory to his prejudice.

Oh, listen to the IRC precincts going and . Roll Eyes

Nominations like this will just be par for the course with a President Lumine, who is essentially what everyone's complaining about here. I envy DemPGH, who's been defamed to the point that he frankly doesn't have to give a damn about what any of you think.

So put up or shut up: waddle on down to the job application office, and put one in. This job is literally the least desired one in the game, and I'd wager not a single person who's going to throw a fit of faux outrage actually applied for the position.

Wait, I'm confused, does Labor not support marriage equality anymore Huh  It sounded like what you're saying was "if people are so upset, why don't any of them apply" (even if I think it is a bit of a disingenuous argument, I guess I see where your coming from), but also that you think we should have more socially conservative cabinet appointees along the lines of what Lumine would support?  Hopefully, I'm misunderstanding what you meant.  I swear though, the next thing you know, Senator JCL will come out for marriage equality Tongue

This isn't even good trolling! It's times like this that make me miss Napoleon. Cry

I'm not trolling Tongue  If you don't want these discussions in the public square, take it up with the President since he's the one who created the issue.  On a different note though, the fact that you miss Napoleon really comes through in your posts.  When you talk about IRC, you sound like Napoleon come again Tongue
21  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Labor Party Fall 2014 Convention - San Francisco, CA on: September 30, 2014, 06:06:37 pm
Will Labor include a plank in it's platform condemning the President's nomination of noted-anti gay rights activist Hifly as SoEA?  I'm not trying to make trouble or anything, I'm just trying to figure out what to make of this.  I haven't been here in awhile so maybe things have changed, but I seem to recall a number of Laborites being well to even my left on marriage-related issues.  So I hope you'll forgive me if I'm rather perplexed by the current Labor President, DemPGH, nominating Atlasia's most infamous opponent of marriage equality (my apologies to Senator JCL, but he is no longer Atlasia's chief opponent of marriage equality Tongue ) to the cabinet shortly after the latter rammed through the Mideast Assembly a bill that would've forced public schools to indoctrinate our children with reprehensible homophobic propaganda.  

Anyway, I was just hoping someone could clarify the Labor Party's position on marriage equality for me.  Was there some seismic shift while I was gone that caused Labor to become an anti-gay rights party?  It seems kind of weird that a party that includes prominent supporters of legalizing group marriage, polygamy, and incest would decide same-sex marriage is the issue where they decide to tack in a more socially conservative direction, but there you go, I guess.  Or do you guys still support marriage equality for our nation's LGBT community?  I'm sorry to have to ask this if the Labor Party does still supports marriage equality, but I just want to make sure I don't have to worry about Senator JCL filling a Supreme Court vacancy or something Tongue

Parties generally don't include their opposition to individual presidential nominations in their platforms, so no, of course not. Many members, including myself, will continue to strongly oppose Hifly.

Labor as a party has spearheaded the movement for marriage rights in Atlasia, including extending spousal rights to group marriages and marriages born of incest, so your question seems quite odd in light of that.

I suggest you read up a little on what's actually going on in Atlasia before trying to make passive-aggressive attacks grounded in fictions diametrically opposed to reality.

Thank you for answering my question.  I'm not really sure how that was an attack though, passive-agressive or otherwise.  Normally, I'd have gone and read more, but when I saw Hifly was being appointed, the "What the Inks" meter went off-charts, so to speak.  I simply posted that out of confusion in the first Labor-oriented place I found.  I know you guys get a lot of flack from a lot of folks (some fair, some not), but not *everyone* is out to get you Tongue (at least not all the time Wink ).
22  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Office of President DemPGH (Peace and Prosperity) on: September 30, 2014, 06:02:02 pm
The words of bigots are not worth hearing.

As far as I'm concerned, you are an accessory to his prejudice.

Oh, listen to the IRC precincts going and . Roll Eyes

Nominations like this will just be par for the course with a President Lumine, who is essentially what everyone's complaining about here. I envy DemPGH, who's been defamed to the point that he frankly doesn't have to give a damn about what any of you think.

So put up or shut up: waddle on down to the job application office, and put one in. This job is literally the least desired one in the game, and I'd wager not a single person who's going to throw a fit of faux outrage actually applied for the position.

Wait, I'm confused, does Labor not support marriage equality anymore Huh  It sounded like what you're saying was "if people are so upset, why don't any of them apply" (even if I think it is a bit of a disingenuous argument, I guess I see where your coming from), but also that you think we should have more socially conservative cabinet appointees along the lines of what Lumine would support?  Hopefully, I'm misunderstanding what you meant.  I swear though, the next thing you know, Senator JCL will come out for marriage equality Tongue
23  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Labor Party Fall 2014 Convention - San Francisco, CA on: September 30, 2014, 05:51:59 pm
Will Labor include a plank in it's platform condemning the President's nomination of noted-anti gay rights activist Hifly as SoEA?  I'm not trying to make trouble or anything, I'm just trying to figure out what to make of this.  I haven't been here in awhile so maybe things have changed, but I seem to recall a number of Laborites being well to even my left on marriage-related issues.  So I hope you'll forgive me if I'm rather perplexed by the current Labor President, DemPGH, nominating Atlasia's most infamous opponent of marriage equality (my apologies to Senator JCL, but he is no longer Atlasia's chief opponent of marriage equality Tongue ) to the cabinet shortly after the latter rammed through the Mideast Assembly a bill that would've forced public schools to indoctrinate our children with reprehensible homophobic propaganda.  

Anyway, I was just hoping someone could clarify the Labor Party's position on marriage equality for me.  Was there some seismic shift while I was gone that caused Labor to become an anti-gay rights party?  It seems kind of weird that a party that includes prominent supporters of legalizing group marriage, polygamy, and incest would decide same-sex marriage is the issue where they decide to tack in a more socially conservative direction, but there you go, I guess.  Or do you guys still support marriage equality for our nation's LGBT community?  I'm sorry to have to ask this if the Labor Party does still supports marriage equality, but I just want to make sure I don't have to worry about Senator JCL filling a Supreme Court vacancy or something Tongue
24  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Which of these Republicans could beat Hillary? on: September 29, 2014, 01:08:58 pm
Mitch Daniels, Jeb Bush, and Marco Rubio
25  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What are the downsides to Joni Ernst as a GOP vice presidential choice? on: September 29, 2014, 01:07:36 pm
The Republicans already tried giving Sarah Palin the VP slot, why would they do it again?
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