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1  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Which show is more left-wing? on: Today at 06:19:57 pm
Family Guy often looks like it was made by a right winger parodying leftists.

This
2  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Ed Koch on: Today at 01:46:53 pm
Massive HP
3  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Should Family Guy do an episode about killing Kim Jong-un? on: Today at 01:30:42 pm
I've asked this question before and received no answer: What South Park episode has a progressive message? And no, simply making fun of some idiotic conservative like Pat Robertson doesn't constitute a progressive message.

Dances with Smurfs comes to mind immediately.  Best Friends Forever is another one (I believe congressional Republicans are literally depicted as tools of Statan).  Passion of the Jew, the one about gay marriage where the Stan and Kyle have to keep that egg from breaking, the Imaginationland trilogy, World War Zimmerman, Cartman Sucks, Last of the Meehicans, and arguably (albeit to a lesser degree) Margaritaville, Cartoon Wars, Quest for Ratings, and Apologies to Jesse Jackson.  There are probably others, but that seems like a good start even if you don't count the debatable ones.
4  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: When will True Federalist end his political censorship? on: Today at 01:07:16 pm
I'm a revolutionary socialist. *snip*

No you're not; you're merely a pathetic excuse for a troll who makes Andrew Cuomo look principled by comparison.  Your defining feature is that you make deliberately obnoxious posts in order to try to offend other posters into giving you the attention you so desperately crave.
5  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What's the most "Bushie-esque" thing you've ever done? on: Today at 10:18:42 am
When I was in middle-school and we were given one-sided worksheets to do in class, I'd spend whole class periods trying to draw from memory detailed maps of the congressional districts in various states (especially Pennsylvania and Ohio) on the backs of the worksheets.  I justified it by telling my teachers that I was going to be a high-paid redistricter some day, so I didn't need to worry about whatever we were learning that day.

I don't know if this counts, but it is the closest thing I could think of that I'm willing to share online.
6  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Which posters do you most admire? on: Today at 10:10:16 am
Tender Branson: For judicious usage of his basement.
Oakvale
Grumps
Lumine
Madeline
Kal
X
Alfred
Griffin
Bacon King
Lumine
"Dave Liep"

Thanks Smiley  I missed this post earlier and while I know I probably "shouldn't" care too much about this sort of thing, but tbh it felt pretty good to be included on at least one person's list in this thread.
7  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Office of Midwest Governor LeBron FitzGerald (Signing Worker & Growth Amendment) on: Today at 10:02:42 am
The notion that the Midwest isn't an inherently-Laborite region flies out the window when considering that TNF is a five-term Senator of the region.



I never said the Midwest didn't generally lean Labor, but the idea that Laborites (or members of any other party, for that matter) are inherently the only ones capable of representing the region's interests is silly.  I should also note that Senator TNF's victories over Lumine and Cris were hardly landslides (although his initial victory over Maxwell was impressive).  Additionally, I can't help but wonder whether he'd have beaten Cris had Governor Simfan not been (IIRC, my apologies if I'm misremembering) actively encouraging a number of right-leaning voters to move to the Pacific.  I have to think some of them would've otherwise ended up in the Midwest and it'd have only taken three for Cris to win outright or maybe even two, depending on whether Midwestern ties are now broken by run-offs or by number of first preferences (although I forget which of them had more first preferences).

Furthermore, while I obviously disagree with Senator TNF on many issues and wish he weren't so quick to resort to demagogic attacks (and at times pretty OTT insults) on those he disagrees with, but I think you're selling him short if you are implying (and I'm not saying you were, I couldn't tell) that he has only won because he's a Laborite.  There are plenty of criticisms one could make about him/his record, but there's no denying that Senator TNF has been a model Senator in terms of his activity level and is one of the strongest voices for the Atlasian far-left (not to be confused with the Atlasian left or the Atlasian center-left).  While I'm not saying I agree or disagree with it; I certainly think there is a legitimate argument to be made for voting for Senator TNF even if the voter in question is to the right of him politically and/or are frustrated with his demagogic tendencies (and it's an argument that has nothing to do with his party affiliation).  Of course one could also make a legitimate argument for Laborites (especially the less far-left ones) to vote against him or at least abstain.  I really think it sells most candidates short in general to act like they only won because of their party, tbh (although there are definitely exceptions).

The backing of a big party like Labor or even the Federalists (when they actually vote) or a well-organized smaller party like TPP or the Democratic-Republicans helps and can certainly help decide a close election (especially if there is a lot of last-day strategic voting), but it is hardly enough in-and-of-itself to ensure one's election, despite what some party bigwigs might like to think.  Candidate quality and (most importantly) a candidate's relationships with other players are both far more important.  I'd argue that the most important benefit of a party in Atlasia is that a strong party can often foster a "we're in this together"-style sense of community/bond (for lack of a better word) among its active members (which both can help encourage higher turnout and make the game more fun).  From what I've seen, TPP and Labor have both done a very good job with that (as opposed to the Liberal Party never seemed to have anything of the sort).  I could be wrong, but I don't get the sense that the Federalist Party has that sort of internal dynamic at this point although I wouldn't be surprised if it did in the past.  I honestly don't know enough about the internal politics/dynamic of the Democratic-Republican party to say if their active members have a "we're in this together"-style bond/sense of community.
8  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: Forum Redistricting Commission on: December 20, 2014, 11:21:44 pm
Nay on item 9
9  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What does Carly Fiorina really want? on: December 20, 2014, 04:16:54 pm
Who cares
10  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Cris Survey - Papal Patch. on: December 20, 2014, 11:42:00 am

The image shows up fine on my computer, but it should be working now, in any event.
11  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS: Protecting people from explosives Amendment on: December 20, 2014, 11:38:23 am
I love the reasoning of the IDS legislators.
Of course, the US 2nd amendment is terrible, but that was the only way to change the current constitution bullsh*t with low explosives.

You could've just deleted the section about low potency explosions...
Nah, the right of the people to wear an arm would have still struck down every pro gun legislation.

See - but the explosions are the main thing the Senate wanted to get rid of, correct?
Of course,
But when you can have both, still better than only having one goal Tongue.

Getting rid of the low potency explosive part would be better than nothing, no?
12  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS: Taxpayer Receipt Act on: December 20, 2014, 11:36:54 am
An Amendment:

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Taxpayer Receipt Act
1. Every fiscal year, the residents of the IDS will receive a letter stating how their tax dollars are spent.
2. The letter will detail expenses based on: Education, Higher Education, Social Services, Transportation, Justice, Economic Development, Environmental Protection, Elected Officials, Debt, Buildings, Payments to Private Contractors, and b General Government.
3. The receipt will show how much of their taxes are spent on each subject percentage wise (ex: Jose pays $4000 in income taxes to the regional government, he pays $400 of his taxes to Higher Education, therefore, 10% of his taxes are spent on Higher Education and both are marked as such on the graph).
4. Every resident will also be sent a letter with a pie graph showing how their sales tax is used for each of the previously listed subjects (ex: 7% of the money made from sales tax goes to Economic Development and that's how it's listed on the graph).
5. The sales tax letter will not include an individualized break-down of how much of the recipient's sales tax dollars were spent and will instead treat each recipient as though his or her sales taxes were the regional average.
5 6. The income tax receipt will show the dollars allocated to each subject based on the household income reported to the regional government the previous fiscal year.
13  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Cris Survey - Papal Patch. on: December 20, 2014, 11:17:33 am
Ideally the President would bomb these rebels into oblivion.

Translation:

14  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Office of Midwest Governor LeBron FitzGerald (Signing Worker & Growth Amendment) on: December 20, 2014, 11:10:42 am
Listen, you guys gave a valiant effort to try to unseat me, and it did give me the realization that 50% of our region isn't very fond of me, but that 50% is mostly made up of inactive citizens in our region who rarely take part in our regional government. Meanwhile, I was overwhelmingly supported by our voters who have seen everything that's gone on and support my Governorship.

And you know what, you guys just need to learn to accept the results. You may not like the fact that our Constitution requires 60% to throw out an elected official, but that's the way it is.

You're not going to pressure me into resigning, so I suggest we stop this madness of attacking one another back and forth and leave the ultimate decision Midwest voters made to rest.

I think you missed my point.  I was first and foremost criticizing your implication that the Midwest is an inherently pro-Labor region and thus only Laborites can represent it well.  Yeah, it certainly leans in that direction, but at the end of the day party ID is far less important than issue positions, activity-level, etc in determining who would best represent the region.  It sounded like you were saying that by default only Laborites can represent the interests of the Midwest and I don't think any party is inherently entitled to a monopoly on any region.  The fact that a majority of Midwesterners voted to recall you and that Labor's candidate (IIRC) would've lost the election to determine your successor had the recall gone through shows that the People of the Midwest don't automatically support whoever Labor runs and sometimes they decide other parties' candidates would better represent their interests.

FTR, I can only speak for myself, but I wasn't trying to pressure you to resign (although I do think you made a mistake by not doing so).  The recall results were just the first example of Midwestern voters rebuking a Labor candidate that came to mind when I was making my post.  My beef is with the idea that party ID should be the decisive factor when deciding who can best represent a constituency.  It may be that a region tends to support a particular party's candidates, but that doesn't mean that said region should only be represented by candidates of said party.  Hopefully that clears things up a little.
15  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Stephen Colbert on: December 19, 2014, 03:29:50 pm
Massive FF. He and Stewart are the voice of our generation.
16  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Who are some posters you like a lot? on: December 19, 2014, 02:52:01 pm
Joe Republic
Bacon King
Kalwejt
MattVT
Dereich
Duke
Maxwell
Mechaman
Alfred F. Jones
Cathcon
Alcon (RIP?)
Al
Badger
Antonio
Vox Populi
Windjammer
Polnut
Gully
Bore
Morgieb
King
Hagrid
Cranberry
Dallasfan
Sjoyce
Yelnoc
Lumine (the awesome GoT game he created alone gets him a spot)
Torie
NCYankee

I'm sure there are others whom I'm forgetting, but these are the ones who occurred to me off the top of my head at the moment.

That said, Gabu was probably the overall best poster we've ever had here before or since he left.
17  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: G-OK on: December 19, 2014, 02:23:00 pm
I'm keeping G-OK until Mechaman is back.
18  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: NC 2016 Gubernatorial Discussion Thread on: December 19, 2014, 09:01:12 am
Well, just when I worry McCrory is getting less vulnerable stuff like this comes out:

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RALEIGH Political analysts from both parties said they had concerns Wednesday about whether North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory had been forthcoming about payments of more than $185,000 in cash and stock that he accepted from a Charlotte mortgage broker after he took office last year.

The Associated Press reported Tuesday that McCrory and U.S. Rep. Mark Sanford of South Carolina each received six-figure payouts while holding elected office from Tree.com, the corporate parent of the website LendingTree. The two Republicans had served on the company's board and resigned after they won election, which would have rendered their unvested shares in Tree.com worthless. The board voted to give them the shares anyway.

"It's one of those things that creates a smell," said Carter Wrenn, a Republican strategist whose past clients included the conservative icon Sen. Jesse Helms.

I was under the impression that McCrory did a fairly good job as mayor of Charlotte and had been well-received by moderates and blacks. Why did he decide, upon becoming governor, to start acting like this guy?



Two words: Art Pope

Long version: Pope is to North Carolina Republican politics what folks like Sheldon Adelson, the Koch bros., etc are to national politics.  McCory seems to have sold his soul to Pope to be Governor (although in fairness, I suspect he's always been at least somewhat right-wing on economic issues since that seems to be the case with most socially moderate Republicans).  Where he seems to have shifted most is on social issues, especially becoming so anti-voter's rights.  However, I suspect that stems more from his willingness to trample on the democratic process to help Republicans win elections (like Pat McHenry, McCrory strikes me as an especially unscrupulous Republican hack).  Miles can correct me if I'm wrong about any of this.
19  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS: Protecting people from explosives Amendment on: December 19, 2014, 08:36:54 am
I love the reasoning of the IDS legislators.
Of course, the US 2nd amendment is terrible, but that was the only way to change the current constitution bullsh*t with low explosives.

You could change it to less ambiguous language that also allows stronger gun control laws or even just by removing the explosives part and not changing the rest.  If anything, I voted against this from the left.  If you want, I can show you a couple of different versions of this that would've been much better.
20  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: IDS December 2014 Elections on: December 19, 2014, 08:32:03 am
IDS Emperor:
[1] Flo

District 1:
[1] WI: Maxwell
21  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Defeated Incumbents from House of Representatives (General) on: December 18, 2014, 07:09:56 pm
Barrow if only due to his ads Tongue
22  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Aaron Sorkin on: December 18, 2014, 07:07:56 pm
I can't decide whether West Wing at its best makes up for Newsroom.

I don't think The West Wing does, but The Social Network definitely makes up for it.  That said, he's still more of a HP than a FF.
23  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Should Family Guy do an episode about killing Kim Jong-un? on: December 18, 2014, 06:52:24 pm
South Park would be better.
24  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Office of Midwest Governor LeBron FitzGerald (Signing Worker & Growth Amendment) on: December 18, 2014, 02:52:56 pm
I would like to take the time to personally congratulate every winning Senate candidate in the At-Large races including two fellow Laborites Lief and SWE, the Archduke of our region Cris, and well-esteemed leaders Bacon King and Polnut. It's great to know we're about to have a Senate that's ready to really test the President's ability to work with the Labor Party.

I have no doubt Lief and SWE will be phenomenal freshmen Senators and I look forward to seeing where they stand on some of this divided legislation. I think they have great leaders to look up to and follow in their footsteps in the other 3 Labor Senators. We have Bore who has a lot of experience and leads the Senate, Windjammer whose worked on expanding our party's members and significantly helped in passing an amendment to our Constitution that will better help protect our citizens from firearms and explosives, and TNF our party chair whose stood firm in defending the Civil Rights Act which I think has the votes to pass now and thus ensure equality across our country.

Oh and with Cris set to leave for the Senate, that leaves us with the question of who will be the next Archduke. Well, here's what the Constitution says on the matter:

Quote from: Midwest Constitution - Dude, Where's My Government Officer? Amendment
5. If, however, the Archduke of the Althing's seat is vacant more than 30 days before a regularly scheduled Gubernatorial election, then the President pro tempore shall take over all responsibilities of the Archduke of Althing, with a special election taking place 10 days after said vacancy.

Our President pro tempore of the Althing is Vega, and will take over the duties as the Archduke temporarily, until we determine in the special election who the next Archduke is. I personally encourage him to run in the special election for the office, but that's ultimately his choice.

I would hope we get someone who's prepared to make continued progress in the Althing. We definitely need an Archduke willing to extend debate, and offer more pieces of legislation on the floor at one time.

The Archduke position definitely deserves voting power as well, and I have an amendment I'll be proposing later tonight to our legislation thread that will increase Althing representation by 2 members - 1 extra Most Serene Representative At-Large, and 1 - the Archduke At-Large who should have the right to take part in the debate and voting process. We've shown over these past few months that we have what it takes to have competitive elections, and I believe we're ready to expand our legislature and representation to our citizens.

Now should one of the Althing members run in the Archduke special election, that will leave open an Althing seat. Just to reiterate, we are a Labor-supporting region, and when the time comes, I'll appoint someone who best represents our region.

Says the Governor whose recall was supported by the majority of Midwesterners Roll Eyes

Doesn't the Midwest deserve a Governor who best represents the region?
25  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama pardons 8 non-violent drug offenders, part of "larger push" on: December 18, 2014, 02:35:57 pm
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