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1  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Eine traurige Nachricht für euch on: Today at 02:52:43 pm
If this is not a joke, then this is incredibly sad.  If it is some kind of sick joke than Tender should be permabanned immediately.  This is Yates level ed up if it is Tender's idea of an April Fools prank.

On what grounds? I can get banning him for a few months for creating a sock, but a permaban for what looks like an April Fool's joke seems a little steep.

I don't think it is an excessively harsh punishment at all.  You do not f!ck around about this kind of stuff, period.
2  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Eine traurige Nachricht für euch on: Today at 02:45:11 pm
If this is not a joke, then this is incredibly sad.  If it is some kind of sick joke than Tender should be permabanned immediately.  This is Yates level ed up if it is Tender's idea of an April Fools prank.
3  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 2000 Presidential Election on: Today at 09:50:05 am
What is the rationale for putting Edwards on the ticket, Spiral?  Obviously it is your call, but IIRC he didn't get more than one VP vote and at least some of his Presidential votes were from people trying to use strategic voting to ensure the Democratic ticket loses.  As a result, putting him on the ticket when he didn't even get the most VP votes seems like rewarding the very thing you introduced "unforeseen consequences" to discourage when you had Gingerich become President. 
4  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Office of Governor Flo - Re-election! on: Today at 05:14:20 am
Endorsed
5  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Scenario: Mike Pence wins the 2016 presidential election on: March 31, 2015, 04:57:50 pm
I'd be upset about all the flying pigs.
6  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Indiana 2016: Is Pence beatable? on: March 31, 2015, 03:49:31 pm
Pence is very beatable. It's a matter of if Democrats are willing to beat him. I think Gregg can, but Hill can't.

Why don't you think Hill could?
7  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Rauner's approval rating at 36% on: March 31, 2015, 03:23:25 pm
No wonder why he has disappeared from the radar again. This was done repeatedly during the campaign, while he made one on one press conferences avaliable to Dupage county voters. That's why Quinn caught up. Good luck with strategy Gov, its not working.

Rauner is invisible in Chicagoland because he's hitting Metro East hard this week. It's a big state and Chicago media doesn't necessarily cover events in the 90+ counties outside of its main area.

As for the polls, I would remind everyone about how Kasich started out four years ago (story from 5/19/11). Note that in Apr 2011 Kasich had only a 30% approval.

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In Ohio, Governor John Kasich is struggling as well, after narrowly defeating Democrat incumbent Ted Strickland last fall. A new Quinnipiac poll released on Wednesday found Kasich's approval numbers decidedly upside down, with 49 percent of voters disapproving and 38 percent approving of his efforts in office to date. This was a nominal improvement over the previous month, when he had a 46-30 split.



Kasich only won re-election by such a large margin because he faced one of the weakest Gubernatorial nominees in the history of Ohio Democratic politics in the biggest Republican wave since at least the 1890s and ran an excellent campaign.  It's almost impossible to imagine Rauner finding himself in an even somewhat similar situation in 2018.

Even without Fitzy scandals, Kasich still would have won by 7-9 points. He was favored before the scandals (I moved the race from Toss-Up to Lean R in April, Fitzy scandals didn't arise until August), they just made him much more favored.

FitzGerald was still one of the weakest gubernatorial nominees in the modern history of OH politics, even without the scandals.
8  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: NV-Gravis: Masto and Titus leading all GOPers, except Sandoval. on: March 31, 2015, 03:09:51 pm
Well, so much for Laxalt being a weak candidate.

Laxalt is Angle level-awful.  Right now all most voters know about him is his last name and that he is NV Attorney General.
9  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Rauner's approval rating at 36% on: March 31, 2015, 01:44:37 pm
No wonder why he has disappeared from the radar again. This was done repeatedly during the campaign, while he made one on one press conferences avaliable to Dupage county voters. That's why Quinn caught up. Good luck with strategy Gov, its not working.

Rauner is invisible in Chicagoland because he's hitting Metro East hard this week. It's a big state and Chicago media doesn't necessarily cover events in the 90+ counties outside of its main area.

As for the polls, I would remind everyone about how Kasich started out four years ago (story from 5/19/11). Note that in Apr 2011 Kasich had only a 30% approval.

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In Ohio, Governor John Kasich is struggling as well, after narrowly defeating Democrat incumbent Ted Strickland last fall. A new Quinnipiac poll released on Wednesday found Kasich's approval numbers decidedly upside down, with 49 percent of voters disapproving and 38 percent approving of his efforts in office to date. This was a nominal improvement over the previous month, when he had a 46-30 split.



Kasich only won re-election by such a large margin because he faced one of the weakest Gubernatorial nominees in the history of Ohio Democratic politics in the biggest Republican wave since at least the 1890s and ran an excellent campaign.  It's almost impossible to imagine Rauner finding himself in an even somewhat similar situation in 2018.
10  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Indiana 2016: Is Pence beatable? on: March 31, 2015, 01:34:53 pm
Pence would have the advantage, but Gregg or Hill could beat him.
11  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: TexasGurl for Southern Judicial Overlord - Confirmation hearing on: March 31, 2015, 10:06:39 am
Aye
12  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 2: Stop PMing Me Act on: March 31, 2015, 09:03:27 am
     Forget my previous amendment, here is a new one. It should take care of any legality issues and tighten up wording in a few places.

The Stop PMing Me Act

1. Effective immediately upon the passage of this bill, the government of the South shall establish a Do Not PM list. 

2. Any voters living in the IDS who does not wish to receive campaign PMs may add themselves to the Do Not PM List by signing their username in the list's thread. 

3. Any voters whose names have been added to the list may should not be sent a sample ballot, encouraged to vote for a specific candidate by either a candidate or a candidate's supporters via PM, or sent a PM reminding them to vote in any Gubernatorial, regional legislative, or regional Senate election.

4. The one exception to section three is if the individual who sent the campaign PM or sample ballot can prove with PMs that he did so purely at the direct request of the specific voter who filed a complaint against him and limited his campaign-related PM to the subject the voter PMed him about.  For example, a candidate responding to a voter's unprompted request for information about his position on abortion would not be in violation of section three if he send a PM in response that laid out his views on abortion.  However, said candidate would be violating section three if he sent an unprompted abortion-related pitch to a voter on the Do Not PM list or if he sent a sample ballot in addition to answering the voter's question about his abortion views. 

5. No voters on the Do Not PM List may send campaign-related PMs, sample ballots, etc while on the list.


6. 4. Anyone wishing to be removed from the Do Not PM List may have their name removed by making a post in the list thread requesting that their name be taken of the Do Not PM List.  However, no voter may add or remove himself from the Do Not PM List at any point during either last 48 hours before the voting booth opens in a Southern Gubernatorial, regional legislative, or regional Senate election or while the actual voting in one of the aforementioned types of elections is underway in this region.

7. 5. Any voter adding his name during the period described in section six four shall not be recognized as having added his name to the Do Not PM List until the officially designated close of the election

8. Any voter who is convicted of removing his name from the Do Not PM List during the aforementioned period shall receive a minimum sentence a ban on voting in the following regional election.

9. Anyone convicted of violating section three of this law once shall receive a minimum sentence of a six month ban on voting in regional elections or holding regional office (including, but not limited to regional Senate).  A second conviction will lead to the same penalty, as well as a year-long ban on appearing on any ballot in the region in any election for any office.


While I'd like to see something with strong enforcement mechanisms, this may be as good as it'll get for now.  This modified version of the bill has my support, Speaker PiT.
13  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1900 Conventions (The Hearse at Monticello) on: March 30, 2015, 07:40:45 pm
14  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of TED Talks on: March 30, 2015, 04:09:11 pm
The worst thing. Just the worst thing.

e: Ahaha the above post is great.

This
15  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Ithaca College SGA passes bill for online reporting of microaggressions on: March 30, 2015, 02:13:54 pm
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James said in addition to a space to report the particular incident, the online system would track the demographics of those reporting microaggressions as well as those accused of committing them.

Pradhan said the way the demographic information would be tracked is not set in stone, but it will likely be based on a temporary pin and coding system. She said the system would note the gender, race, age and school within the college and year of both the person reporting the microaggression and the person being reported.

ahahaha, oh wow

great job liberals, 10/10

This really isn't a "liberal" thing, TNF.

It's certainly a leftist/progressive thing.

No, it's just a "dumb people being dumb" thing.
16  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1897 Contingent Election (The Hearse at Monticello) on: March 30, 2015, 02:04:29 pm
Bryan and Boies both have a clear lead now Smiley
17  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: How come there aren't any female GOP politicians running? on: March 30, 2015, 01:59:13 pm
You could also add Condoleeza Rice, Cathy McMorris-Rodgers and Marsha Blackburn to the list.

It is a bit unusual that Fiorina has this opening.

- McMorris-Rodgers is tied to the House leadership and makes Lieberman look charismatic.

- Blackburn is certifiably insane

- Rice? Looooooooooooooooooooooooool

18  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 2: Stop PMing Me Act on: March 30, 2015, 11:54:15 am
Furthermore, across Atlasia we've seen a trend toward PM-exclusive campaigns.  In these races, we never know what sorts of attacks and empty promises are made to voters behind the scenes and there is almost literally no transparency because a candidate has decided that all they need to win is to pander to the voters as individuals with a bunch of one-on-one PMs.  

My point is that you're a notorious PM fiend and you've managed to win two elections in the South thus far without so much as opening a campaign thread to campaign publicly. So, did you win based solely on your party carrying you or by running an exclusively private campaign? Either way, tsk tsk, hypocrite, bad for the game, etc etc.

I actually only sent two short campaign PMs this past campaign.  At yes, the final straw came recently, what's your point?  The biggest issue is sending unwanted campaign PMs.

You're a hypocrite. And nobody believes you only sent "two short campaign PMs this past campaign" for your own candidacy; hell, you sent more than that campaigning against me in the at-large Senate special! You justified this bill in part because people supposedly are running behind-the-scenes campaigns in the South, yet you didn't run a public campaign yourself.

If we take you at your (latest) word, then you won because you did nothing and solely because of your name and party affiliation. Roughly 24 hours earlier, however, you did admit to sending PMs. So either:

  • you lied about sending PMs (as in, you actually didn't send them), and won because of your name and party affiliation, or
  • you lied about winning because of name and party affiliation, and did in fact send the PMs you admitted to sending (which would constitute the entirety of your campaign)

Either way, how shameful!

Also, your whole shtick of "I know you are but what am I!" is really old. I'm using your own words against you; you're making up accusations out of thin air and windjamming.

Roll Eyes

As I said earlier, I won on the strength of my record as an independent-minded champion of The People.  That doesn't mean just party ID or just name ID.  I don't really care whether you believe me or not about how many PMs I sent, Senator.  The fact is that I did only send two short PMs this past campaign asking for anyone to vote for me.  I'd have liked to have been able to wage a more active campaign and if someone who has actually run one wants to criticize me for that, fair enough.  However, real life issues take precedence for me over fantasyland campaigns.  I am grateful that the voters of the South had enough confidence in me based on my record to re-elect me all the same (and with support from members of multiple parties, no less).  

For the benefit of others who may read this, I will note that yes, I did send far more PMs (never to anyone who requested that I not do so) for a race in which I was not on the ballot than one in which I was.  The fact is that I cared more about the outcome of the At-Large Senate special election than the Southern Assembly race.  While I hoped to win the latter, at the end of the day I was confident that even if I lost, and despite my ideological differences with some of these folks, the South would still be in good hands if the Legislature consisted of Duke, PiT, and SMilo (to say nothing of Governor Flo who has done an excellent job).  Unlike you, I'm not one of those "guys, I have a career in Atlasia!!!" people.  Win or lose, it's just a game and it's hard to get too stirred up about the possibility of losing when you're facing such competent and respectable opponents.

The Senate race, OTOH, was not exclusively a race between folks who would do a good job if elected (putting aside the considerable ideological differences I had with all of the major candidates).  I had some concerns about Foucaulf and he certainly made some troubling mistakes during the campaign (most notably the gaffe about wanting people who voted against him not to vote), but I'm pretty confident he'd at least have been an active and productive Senator had he been elected (plus his campaign had more substance to it than that of anyone else who ran).  The only other candidate with a real chance of winning was Griffin.  I was almost certain that if elected, Griffin would be a rather unproductive Senator with far more interest in hyperbolic bomb-throwing than crafting serious legislation and engaging in substantive debate.  As a result, I cared more about the outcome of that race than my most recent one and guess what?  Since Griffin won, he's proven me right.  One need only look to Senator Griffin's "contributions" to the debate over the energy bill 2.0 police bill to see this.

Btw, you offered literally no evidence whatsoever in your post that I lied.  I guess that makes sense, since I didn't lie about anything.  I was re-elected because of my record and the fact that I've apparently earned the trust of a number of folks in the South after all the time I've spent fighting for The People, not because of the two short campaign PMs I sent (IIRC, at least one of the two individuals I PMed didn't even first preference me Tongue ).

I do find it funny that you might actually think I'm making up accusations against you out of thin-air (if so, then that's some serious denial you've got going on).  You constantly give your critics so much ammunition (and at times even seem to take a certain pride in doing so) that I can't really imagine why anyone would ever feel the need to resort to making up an attack against you, even if they did dabble in smear campaigns (which I never have).
19  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: CNN checks in on the Draft Warren campaign on: March 30, 2015, 06:09:41 am
20  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Scenario: Joe Biden wins it all 2016 on: March 30, 2015, 05:41:21 am
Celebration. Shots!
21  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 2000 Primaries on: March 29, 2015, 09:29:35 pm
Dean/Feingold

Edit: Wellstone not being included despite being a candidate IRL during this cycle was disappointing Sad
22  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1897 Contingent Election (The Hearse at Monticello) on: March 29, 2015, 06:36:32 pm
Since no Presidential candidate seems set to win a majority, does that mean we have to vote again?

I don't see why it would.  Bryan has a pretty solid lead.
23  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: IDS 2: Stop PMing Me Act on: March 29, 2015, 08:48:01 am
Lord, y'all are being way too nice about this.

IT'S A TERRIBLE IDEA,
IT'LL NEVER WORK,
IT'S UNCONSTITUTIONAL BY PRECEDENT,
AND YOUR JUSTIFICATION FOR IT MAKES YOU A BIG OL' HYPOCRITE,
SO JUST STAHP

It doesn't make me a hypocrite at all since I'm only trying to ban unwanted campaign PMs, but I can't say I expect you to suddenly start caring about facts now.  Btw, you're really not in a position to be calling anyone else a hypocrite.
24  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 1897 Contingent Election (The Hearse at Monticello) on: March 29, 2015, 08:43:43 am
25  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Jack Conway on: March 28, 2015, 05:06:39 pm
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