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1  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: OH-2018: Megathread on: December 08, 2016, 06:57:50 am
ROTFL at anyone who thinks Mandel could beat Brown.  I'm not even remotely worried about this one if Mandel is the Republican nominee.
2  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Petition to make grumps change his signature on: December 07, 2016, 06:55:20 pm
Or you could, you know, turn off signatures.

This is literally the reason I have signatures turned off, in fact.
3  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Lief Reservoir of Simple Truths and Smart One-Liners on: December 07, 2016, 06:41:41 pm
I'm just sad that Tweed is back on the net and not inside a mental hospital being pumped full of medication. The dude is a complete nutjob and his transgressions against someone as kind as BaconKing shouldn't ever be forgotten or forgiven.
4  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Empty Quoting on: December 07, 2016, 06:37:50 pm
5  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Lief Reservoir of Simple Truths and Smart One-Liners on: December 06, 2016, 10:01:28 pm
Context:
Something about his posting style really pisses me off, in a way that our far right Nazis and mad kooks don't.  If you're going to be unfathomably smug, at least find something interesting to be smug about.
6  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is jfern a progressive? on: December 06, 2016, 08:50:00 pm

If people like Ted Cruz and Paul Ryan were to embrace the pot, BRTD would be "all conservative, all the time". Jfern is sincere. Misguided, but sincere.

This, also Jfern was "never Hillary," not "pro-Trump"
7  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Is Keith Ellison an anti-semite? on: December 06, 2016, 08:32:00 pm
in my estimation, ellison's worldview is probably vaguely tinged with anti-semitism, but he isn't ~actively~ anti-semitic, if that makes sense

While I do think Ellison is probably an anti-Semite, this is a reasonable position.
8  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Bronz Landfill for Absurd, Ignorant, Bigoted and Just Plain Awful Posts VI on: December 06, 2016, 08:28:38 pm
I think the sassy chip in the Jerrybot is malfunctioning. Better call Apple.
Or it's finals week and I really don't have time for racists like you or douchbags like Cathcon.

Not familiar with traditional spelling, but I believe it's "douchebag".

In all honesty, sounds like stress is getting the best of you.
Yeah his posts sound like my mother at the peak of her alcoholism right before she'd start screaming and slapping me in the Publix checkout line.
You really have had a sh**t life haven't you.  is that why you have to troll.  To get the attention that you always needed as a child?
Why would I want that? That sounds like too much attention if you ask me. It's actually rather embarrassing. As is your meltdown.
What meltdown.  Calling out the Nazi and asking someone who is a douchebag frat boy to stop correcting me is a meltdown?  You need to check your definition is that is so.

Are you okay?
Yeah.  Why?  I know I shouldn't respond to Sanchez but the dude it an unabashed racist.  I don't take kindly to people like that, why I call him out on all his sh**t.  And Cathcon is just a douche, which is something I also don't like.

I agree that Sanchez is awful, but I'm not sure what your beef is with Cathcon, but regardless, you seem to be getting way too worked up about this.  It's just an obscure internet forum.
9  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Bronz Landfill for Absurd, Ignorant, Bigoted and Just Plain Awful Posts VI on: December 06, 2016, 06:50:07 pm
I think the sassy chip in the Jerrybot is malfunctioning. Better call Apple.
Or it's finals week and I really don't have time for racists like you or douchbags like Cathcon.

Not familiar with traditional spelling, but I believe it's "douchebag".

In all honesty, sounds like stress is getting the best of you.
Yeah his posts sound like my mother at the peak of her alcoholism right before she'd start screaming and slapping me in the Publix checkout line.
You really have had a sh**t life haven't you.  is that why you have to troll.  To get the attention that you always needed as a child?
Why would I want that? That sounds like too much attention if you ask me. It's actually rather embarrassing. As is your meltdown.
What meltdown.  Calling out the Nazi and asking someone who is a douchebag frat boy to stop correcting me is a meltdown?  You need to check your definition is that is so.

Are you okay?
10  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Hamilton is up on youtube on: December 06, 2016, 06:48:54 pm
Seriously though don't bother announcing this sort of thing without a link

Or you could...you know...not be lazy.
11  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Hamilton is up on youtube on: December 06, 2016, 04:50:36 pm
Good for him.

You know you're like the third person to make that joke, right?
12  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: PA-Sen: Rep. Pat Meehan considers run against Sen. Bob Casey on: December 06, 2016, 02:28:03 pm
But it's inane to fetishise moderation just because they are moderate. That's what I get from your posts - a lack od political understanding beyond "well the middle is the best, because it is the middle". That's the sort of mentality that props up vast, corrupt parties that merely define themselves as nonidealogical people of the middle.

No fetishisation. But generally i really prefer flexible moderates to rigid extremists of any sort. Because, IMHO, a flexibility is a plus in politics, compromise is frequently neccessary (and i prefer small steps to lack of any movement), and so on. So, in short, i am a natural moderate. As naturally i generally prefer a politicians of the same sort. In addition - present polarisation where "middle is almost empty" (look at present House - less then 10% are there, other are either liberals (yes, including moderate liberals, but - nevertheless) or conservatives (frequently - very rigid ones)) seems simply dangerous to me: it encourages a behavoir of " i am a boss - you are a fool, you are a boss - i am a fool" type, where everything is determined by brute force. In Russian history there were "bolsheviks vs. mensheviks" struggles, and "red" vs "white", which demonstated itself during Russian civil war of 1917-1920 with rivers of blood on both sides and where the only "reasonable" behavoir was "to fight an enemy until it's full extermination". An extreme polarisation may, in time, to lead to the same results...

American politics =\= Russian politics
13  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Hamilton is up on youtube on: December 06, 2016, 02:24:41 pm
I've already heard my lifetime's fill about this garbage from my Aunt. No thanks.
So don't watch it and just ignore this thread? No need to be a dick about it.
There wasn't even a link provided anyhow. Calm down.

You're still butthurt about what Brandon Dixon Carter said to Pence, aren't you?
14  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Better shot at winning: John Morgan in Florida or J.B. Pritzker in Illinois? on: December 06, 2016, 07:27:06 am
Definitely Morgan (although he's far from a lock in the primary or the general), I doubt Pritzker would win the primary (although he'd probably beat Rauner, there will likely be much stronger candidates running).
15  Forum Community / Forum Community / Hamilton is up on youtube on: December 06, 2016, 12:09:30 am
In case anyone is interested...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aa9rmP4657k
16  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: PA-Sen: Rep. Pat Meehan considers run against Sen. Bob Casey on: December 05, 2016, 09:14:32 pm
^We will never agree. So it will be better if we both stick to our views and end this (essentially - useless) "discussion". You can be sure that as Russian by origin i hate revolutions of all sorts (there were more then enough of them in Russia, even if we forget about other countres, and i know first hand where they lead to). And those Russians, who don't like "permanent revolution", are, essentially, counterrevolutionaries))). Me - too)))

Political revolution ought not be equated with revolutions of the violent sort but, fine, we disagree; I think you should stick to, uh, politics elsewhere because you clearly don't understand America very well even if you can identify congressional districts on a map or whatever.

Excuse me *snip*

You're excused.  Now please take your radical Moderate Hero hackery elsewhere, thanks.

I will take them where I (not YOU) want. Thanks.

Sick burn
17  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: PA-Sen: Rep. Pat Meehan considers run against Sen. Bob Casey on: December 05, 2016, 09:04:33 pm
^We will never agree. So it will be better if we both stick to our views and end this (essentially - useless) "discussion". You can be sure that as Russian by origin i hate revolutions of all sorts (there were more then enough of them in Russia, even if we forget about other countres, and i know first hand where they lead to). And those Russians, who don't like "permanent revolution", are, essentially, counterrevolutionaries))). Me - too)))

Political revolution ought not be equated with revolutions of the violent sort but, fine, we disagree; I think you should stick to, uh, politics elsewhere because you clearly don't understand America very well even if you can identify congressional districts on a map or whatever.

Excuse me *snip*

You're excused.  Now please take your radical Moderate Hero hackery elsewhere, thanks.
18  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: TIME Person of the Year on: December 05, 2016, 07:44:36 pm
Of course it will be Trump.

I would love if it was Hillary though.
19  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: PA-Sen: Rep. Pat Meehan considers run against Sen. Bob Casey on: December 05, 2016, 06:40:54 am
Feeling is mutual buddy Smiley. Thanks for confirming my point.

I never doubted it in first place)))) But you need us more then we need you)))). At least - for about next 10 years..

See that's the thing, we really don't need you all that much tbh.  We'll inevitably win enough moderate hero votes regardless that most elections will come down to turnout rather than unicorns, swing-voters, and other mythical creatures.
20  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Bronz Landfill for Absurd, Ignorant, Bigoted and Just Plain Awful Posts VI on: December 04, 2016, 10:36:10 pm
I honestly think if Hillary really needs to be punished, being a two-time loser of races she was suppoused to win easily is hurting enough.

She just lost in an upset to Donald F-king Trump. She certainly feels awful now.

I felt empathy for every Presidential loser in my adult lifetime, except for Poppy Bush and Hillary Clinton.

I suppose the sense of entitlement both of them suffer from is repulsive to me.

The Jen Palmieris and Robby Mooks of the world just make me dislike Hillary more.

Well at least we can agree that Robby Mook is pond scum Tongue
21  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: OH-2018: Megathread on: December 04, 2016, 10:17:54 pm
Internal GOP politics heating up. Trump Supporter and Stark County GOP Vice-Chair Kate Timken is challenging RPO Chairman Matt Borges.

Borges seems pretty competent, hopefully he loses!
22  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: OH-2018: Megathread on: December 04, 2016, 09:56:02 pm
State Representative Kathleen Clyde seems to be the only Democrat angling for this position. She'd pushed voting rights-related legislation during her tenure, and as the Representative of Kent, has made inroads with various college groups.

Please, no. She's pretty bad. Also, where do y'all think Mandel will end up?

Clyde seems pretty good to me.  Hopefully Mandel will end up in an unemployment line where he belongs (he's all-but-declared his candidacy for Senate).

Can we have Tiberi, please? Or Huffman? Or anyone but Mandel?

How about we just keep Sherrod Brown since he's easily one of the best Senators in the country Tongue

Yep. Brown has far and away the best voting record of any swing state senator, among other things.
Brown is terrible. He's one of these.


A fruit bat Huh
23  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Election Results by Congressional Districts, OFFICIAL THREAD on: December 04, 2016, 09:30:11 pm
Has anyone done Pennsylvania yet? Because I'm close to 100% sure that Costello is a Clinton Republican.

Mr. Phips has it as 50%-45% Trump.

really? huh. With that being the case, Costello is probably fine since Democrats can't recruit for sh**t in this district anyway.

Andy Dinniman could definitely beat him (that'd be one hell of a race), but other than that...
24  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Poll for Republicans: Should Republicans be gloating? on: December 04, 2016, 09:26:41 pm
They should gloat a little bit.

I'll gloat just to the point of reminding how smug so many of the red avatars were.  How some of them were personally nasty and tried to run me off, along with some other folks.  How they didn't think about the fact that there's a reason folks go out and "play the game", whether it be football or elections.

I'm happy that some folks here were gravely disappointed.  Some were snotty and nasty on a personal level.  And the folks that called me racist, sexist, etc., well, I'll gloat over the fact that you folks are gravely disappointed.  Such behavior was, and is, uncalled for, and while many of the folks who have called me (and others who supported Trump on this forum) racists, sexists, homophobes, etc. simply because of our Presidential choice lack the humility to examine themselves and apologize for that, the simple fact that their angst will rise every time they hear "President Trump" on TV or radio will be a source of satisfaction for me.  "The Lord delights in just verdicts."  Perhaps their angst is my just verdict in the face of unwarranted personal attacks.  (I'll still think this even if Trump goes South and I end up disapproving of him.)

But, no, I won't rub folks' face in it.  Hillary won the popular vote, and there is something to be said for that.  Trump lost the popular vote because he took "Being Trump" to the extreme, but he might not have won the electoral vote if he hadn't.  The GOP took both Houses of Congress, but they lost seats in each, and they lost the Nevada Legislature (both houses), so the election had something for everyone.  

As time goes by, I think that Trump, and only Trump, could have beaten Hillary Clinton.  I believe that had one of the Plaid Brothers (Kasich, Rubio, even Cruz) had run, they well may have won the popular vote, but lost the Electoral Vote.  They would have run up margins in Republican states, but they wouldn't have expanded the map as Trump did.  Trump "traded" extra voters in GA, TX, and AZ for voters in MI, WI, and PA.  His allocation of support was far more efficient than Clinton's, and I attribute this to far shrewder campaign strategy and political insight.

Trump winning doesn't change the fact that you are a repugnant individual who had no problem voting for a literal sexual predator.

Come on. Donald friggin' Trump is the president of the United States of America, and we're still here? With the deplorables? What will it take?

People vote based on a combination of different factors. There is no single one factor that suddenly blacks out the sun of every other consideration. For example, we would all vote for a racist, sexual predator if it was 99% certain that the other candidate was going to start a nuclear war, wouldn't we?  Better distaste than slaughter. That wasn't the choice here, but it shows that there's no one disqualifying factor that is absolutely invincible.

Believe me, I know there are a combination of factors.  It drives me crazy how many times I've had to explain to other Democrats that this "if those dumb hicks knew what was good for them" style elitism is both gross and extremely counter-productive.  I get why someone from West Virginia would vote straight-ticket Republican.  The Democrats wanting to essentially kill the coal industry is fine (I'm all for that), but we've made no effort to say what we'd do to give folks in Appalachia an alternative way to support their families.  No one talks about raising taxes to fund programs to train coal-miners so they can work in other types of jobs, for example.  Furthermore, Democrats often look down their noses at folks from such areas.

That said, there are definitely plenty of folks who are simply racists, sexists, partisan hacks, or selfish people etc and they should be called out as such.  I was referring to Fuzzy Bear specifically (although it should really give all Trump voters pause that they voted for a literal sexual predator who embodies the worst America has to offer).  I think Fuzzy Bear is simply such a Republican hack that he'd blindly vote for a sex predator (and proved as much).  It was disgusting to hear him rant and rave about the e-mails while acting as though Trump's pattern of sexual assault (the man bragged about it on tape for crying out loud) was simply much ado about nothing.  

Lastly, this election was one of those rare times where one side was truly evil.  Trump is a racist, sexist, hate-mongering, crooked, authoritarian, greedy, proudly ignorant, Jew-baiting, Islamophobic, egomaniacal sex predator.  I understand that it is all too easy for good people to get caught up in something evil, but there's a middle ground between looking down your nose at anyone who is a member of the WWC and being too scared of offending somebody to criticize any of Trump's supporters.  That wimpy roll-over-and-play-dead routine didn't work in 2004 and it won't work now either.

They should gloat a little bit.

I'll gloat just to the point of reminding how smug so many of the red avatars were.  How some of them were personally nasty and tried to run me off, along with some other folks.  How they didn't think about the fact that there's a reason folks go out and "play the game", whether it be football or elections.

I'm happy that some folks here were gravely disappointed.  Some were snotty and nasty on a personal level.  And the folks that called me racist, sexist, etc., well, I'll gloat over the fact that you folks are gravely disappointed.  Such behavior was, and is, uncalled for, and while many of the folks who have called me (and others who supported Trump on this forum) racists, sexists, homophobes, etc. simply because of our Presidential choice lack the humility to examine themselves and apologize for that, the simple fact that their angst will rise every time they hear "President Trump" on TV or radio will be a source of satisfaction for me.  "The Lord delights in just verdicts."  Perhaps their angst is my just verdict in the face of unwarranted personal attacks.  (I'll still think this even if Trump goes South and I end up disapproving of him.)

But, no, I won't rub folks' face in it.  Hillary won the popular vote, and there is something to be said for that.  Trump lost the popular vote because he took "Being Trump" to the extreme, but he might not have won the electoral vote if he hadn't.  The GOP took both Houses of Congress, but they lost seats in each, and they lost the Nevada Legislature (both houses), so the election had something for everyone.  

As time goes by, I think that Trump, and only Trump, could have beaten Hillary Clinton.  I believe that had one of the Plaid Brothers (Kasich, Rubio, even Cruz) had run, they well may have won the popular vote, but lost the Electoral Vote.  They would have run up margins in Republican states, but they wouldn't have expanded the map as Trump did.  Trump "traded" extra voters in GA, TX, and AZ for voters in MI, WI, and PA.  His allocation of support was far more efficient than Clinton's, and I attribute this to far shrewder campaign strategy and political insight.

Trump winning doesn't change the fact that you are a repugnant individual who had no problem voting for a literal sexual predator.

Of course you would resort to personal insults.

What else would one expect from you, being such a big time loser.

Strangely enough, I'm not looking for your approval.

And I'm not looking for yours.

But I will call you out on your crap.  Donald Trump has never been charged with a crime.  "Sexual Predator" is a legal designation for a certain type of criminal, and not just a term folks can throw around.  

As for being a Republican Hack, I've voted for Obama in 2012, Kerry in 2004, and Bill Clinton twice.  I'm an independent voter, but I am a registered Republican who votes in every primary, so I am part of that constituency; hence, my blue avatar.  Other folks know this.  I've posted this many times.  Perhaps this was convenient to forget when an insult was to be delivered.

If we're going to play the allegation game, however, let's not forget that Hillary Clinton actively worked to trash the reputations of the women who came forth with allegations that Bill Clinton sexually abused them.  Juanita Broaddrick.  Kathleen Willey.  And she did so not for Bill's career, but for her own hoped-for career.  Hillary trashed alleged victims, something she, herself, stated should never occur (until people called her on this, upon which, her quote disappeared from her website).  

Juanita Broaddrick signed a sworn affidavit indicating that Bill Clinton never raped or sexually harassed her and denied in a 1999 interview that Hillary ever tried to silence her.  Kathleen Willey's allegations have also been widely discredited.  Thanks for playing though Smiley  Incidentally, I do think Clinton should've been removed from office for perjury before a grand jury (the perjury charge that went to the Senate) and probably obstruction of justice.  

And yes, Donald Trump is a sexual predator; denying the facts won't change them.  

Regarding your voting history, I was honestly unaware of that.  Of course, it doesn't change the fact that you were constantly going on and on about Hillary's e-mails while supporting a sexual predator for President.
25  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Army halts construction at Standing Rock on: December 04, 2016, 09:15:49 pm
We did it guys!  All of us checking in at Standing Rock on Facebook has finally paid off!

You win this thread.
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