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1  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Winter is Coming (GoT is back) on: Today at 05:42:38 am
Love how they trolled the fans for a week about Jon Snow.

Either way we need George RR Martin to get off his fat lazy ass and write the next two books. He's gotten caught up in his own fame and worthless blogging, every normal person would have been fired long ago. Send out the goon squads and beat him until he finishes it.

He doesn't owe you or me anything.  The man has a right to enjoy his life too.
2  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Winter is Coming (GoT is back) on: May 05, 2016, 06:47:31 pm
The more I think about that episode, the more I dislike it (although the Pyke stuff, the Arya scene, and the scene with Sansa, Theon, and Brienne were good).  The Tyrion/Meereen subplot is fast becoming the Dorne of this season.  More importantly, Jon's resurrection was pretty silly and Tormund, Davos and Roose were all acting pretty out of character in various ways.
3  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Vicente Fox apologizes to Trump on: May 05, 2016, 06:21:25 pm
My girlfriend is from Mexico. That's one of the reasons why I hate Trump because of what he said about Mexicans.

Yeah, and my wife is Mexican. (Well, Mexican-American). So what? That has nothing to do with our position that the United States should secure its borders. I guess you'll have to hate me as well...

Translation: But guys, I have (insert minority group here) friends, so I can't be a racist!
4  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: I'm back. on: May 04, 2016, 07:43:02 pm
Welcome back!  Sorry to hear you've been having such a rough go of it lately Sad
5  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Recent bans on: May 04, 2016, 07:11:30 pm
Lyndon fled to AAD. Sad

Good, they deserve each other.

And you deserve sh**t Atlas! Smiley

I suppose that would explain why you're still here.
6  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Recent bans on: May 03, 2016, 01:57:09 pm
Lyndon fled to AAD. Sad

Good, they deserve each other.
7  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Who, at this point, is more pathetic? on: May 03, 2016, 01:51:43 pm
"Ironic" Trump supporters
8  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Winter is Coming (GoT is back) on: May 01, 2016, 07:53:51 pm


Seconded.  Also Cersei is totally going to burn KL to the ground with wildfire.  Cersei probably sends FrankenGregor to kill Margaery and Tommen being Tommen, tries to save her which goes about as well as that picture suggests and then Cersei completely snaps.
9  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Jon Huntsman says the GOP should rally around Trump on: April 30, 2016, 11:02:06 pm
The two deserve each other badly.
10  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Winter is Coming (GoT is back) on: April 30, 2016, 02:00:32 pm
Has anyone read GRRM's original 3-page outline of the series?

This is back when he had only written under half of the first book. And the second book would have been Daenerys with her Dothraki invasion, and the third book the invasion of the Others (White Walkers).

There are multiple changes, but it gives you an idea of where some plot threads still might go.

Like Jaime taking the Iron Throne, Arya and Jon falling in love with each other and that being a problem until his true parentage is revealed (maybe Sansa will play that role now?), Tyrion in love with Arya, and the 5 characters who survive: Jon, Bran, Arya, Daenerys, Tyrion.

But there were definitely changes. Like originally Catlyn being killed by and becoming a White Walker (after taking Arya back with her to Winterfell, and Arya and Bran with her to Castle Black and then further north). Sansa having Joffrey's son and choosing them over her family but later regretting it (and presumably her and her son being killed by Jaime). Daenerys wanting revenge for her brother and killing Khal Drogo. Robb dies in battle, after maiming Joffrey who's later deposed by Tyrion after Tyrion destroys Winterfell. Uncle Benjen staying around longer. Ned's death seem the same.

http://www.businessinsider.com/game-of-thrones-was-supposed-to-be-a-trilogy-2015-2

I have and I'd argue that it really doesn't tell you anything about where things are headed.  Note that some parts of the outline are blacked out.  From this we can infer that the parts of the outline that are available to us are only those that were essentially scrapped.

- Additionally, it does not say that Arya, Jon, Dany, Tyrion, and Bran all survive, it only suggests that they are the core central characters.  In fact, I'd bet money that Tyrion dies in the last book (he basically checks all the boxes for someone who would bite it in a story like this imo) and I'd be shocked if Dany and Jon survive the battle with the Others (especially Dany, characters with messiah/savior complexes tend not to survive stories with bittersweet endings).  If Tyrion, Jon, and Dany are the three heads of the dragon (per Word of God, one of the might not be a Targaryen) then my guess is they and the dragons somehow die while successfully stopping the Others in some sort of better than it sounds manner.  Bran, Arya, and Sansa are probably safe though.  And Samwell Tarly, I'm pretty sure he survives too.

- As for Sansa/Jon and Arya/Jon if either of those pairings happen, I will eat my hat (or I would if I had one Tongue ).  Not sure which one makes me cringe more.  Probably Arya/Jon due to the age disparity.  Then again, it's not like Martin has ever missed a chance for incest in ASOIAF.  Btw, as the great Steven Attwell has noted on racefortheironthrone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westermarck_effect is a thing.
11  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Winter is Coming (GoT is back) on: April 30, 2016, 12:22:35 pm
- Castle Black: Thorne and co. break down the door, Edd and the Wildlings arrive and kill the mutineers.  Thorne gets killed in a boss battle with Tormund and Ghost turns Olly into a Kid's Meal.  The episode ends with Jon being resurrected somehow (maybe Melisandre kills herself in a "only death can pay for life" type thing).  If this happens, the last shot will be Jon's eyes opening...and then Castle Black probably won't be in episode three at all (a good way to build suspense and HBO seems to enjoy that sort of weapons grade trolling).  As with the Pyke prediction, I'm not as confident about Jon coming back b/c there may not be room in the episode.

Kill the mutineers?  Don't the mutineers consist of all but about 5 Nightswatchmen?  So will the NW be completely done once this battle is over?  Castle Black will then be occupied by....the 5 or so NW left, plus a bunch of Wildlings?

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- Brienne tells Sansa that Arya is alive, but she couldn't find her after the fight with the Hound.  Sansa gives Brienne a new mission: Go back to the Riverlands, find Arya, and bring her back to a safe part of the North.

Wait, you mean send Brienne away right now?  Wouldn't she want to keep Brienne around until she (Sansa) is somewhere a bit safer?  Also, wouldn't she think that Arya was in the Vale rather than the Riverlands?  The Brienne vs. Hound fight was in the Vale, right?

I haven't read the books, but I understand that San/San is kind of a thing in the books.  Do you think Sansa will have any reaction to the fact that Brienne (apparently) killed the Hound?


- I think that there were about 50 night's watchmen, IIRC.  Only like 12 seem to have been outright mutineers, the rest seemed kinda apathetic at the end of Thorne's speech.  In any event, yeah, I don't think most of the Night's Watch is in it for the long haul.  Dolorous Edd probably becomes Lord Commander, imo.  

- Logically, the Vale might make more sense, but narratively the Riverlands probably make more sense since a lot of stuff will be happening there this season and some of it will likely involve Jaime, especially since basically nothing is happening in the Vale and a bunch probably will in the Riverlands given that HBO already made it known that the Freys, Edmure, and the Blackfish will be back this season.  

- San/San isn't really a thing in the books either.  It isn't really a thing anywhere in book or show cannon, tbh.  It's basically a creepy (the age difference alone... *shudder*) cracked pairing that seems to have become extremely popular because a bunch of people looked at Sansa and the Hound's ACoK/Season 2 storylines and came to the conclusion that there were romantic feelings between the two.  Now Sansa is arguably a reminder to the Hound of the innocence he lost when his brother burned his face and his father lied about what happened and he definitely behaves protectively toward her *at times,* but that's about it.  I don't think Sansa will care about the Hound's fate, tbh (*hides under desk*).  She'll probably be more focused on the fact that Arya is still alive and on figuring out how to find her/get her somewhere safe.

- Yeah, Brienne and Poderick (and Theon, for that matter, he'll decide to head to the Iron Islands any episode now imo) probably won't be with Sansa much longer.  Narratively speaking, Theon needs to have a confrontation with his family and we're really running out of time for that.  It's like how Sam needs to confront Randyll or Arya needs to leave the Faceless Men either mid-to-late season (thinking episode 7 or 8, but we'll see).  Are there other entirely plausible courses of action open to the characters?  Sure.  But when predicting GoT, I try to ask "does it make narrative sense?"  That often narrows things down somewhat, at least in terms of broad strokes.


Edit: Actually, I think Mr. Morden might be right regarding Brienne leaving.  Narratively speaking, the important thing is that she reaches the Riverlands before the last few episodes of the season so that she's there for whatever goes down when the Freys and Jaime presumably face off with the Blackfish at Riverrun.  That wouldn't necessarily require her to leave this episode.
12  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Winter is Coming (GoT is back) on: April 30, 2016, 08:28:42 am
Some more thoughts:

- The scene with the Boltons was excellent.  The stuff with Ramsay mourning Myranda was dumb, but that last line about what to do with the body was hilarious.  The conversation between Roose and Ramsay was what I really liked here though.  

- In defense of the Dorne scene: I think they're just killing off all the Dorne characters, which is for the best.  It didn't work in the books and it was a disaster on the show. I expect the Sand Snakes and Ellaria will die pretty quickly.  Also I just realized House Martell has been completely wiped out.  The Sand Snakes borrowing LF's teleporter was dumb, but Doran's death worked better than anything else in Dorne (I don't consider Oberyn as part of the Dornish storyline so it's a pretty low bar, but still).  It made no sense from a political standpoint, but if they're just putting the Dorne storyline out of its misery, I suppose we might as well get a surprising and semi-entertaining death scene out of it.    
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Predictions for episode two:

- Winterfell: Ramsay suggests attacking Castle Black b/c Sansa and Theon are going there and Roose agrees

- Pyke: Euron kills Balon *Maybe, I'm not sure about this one just because IDK if there will be room in the episode

- Castle Black: Thorne and co. break down the door, Edd and the Wildlings arrive and kill the mutineers.  Thorne gets killed in a boss battle with Tormund and Ghost turns Olly into a Kid's Meal.  The episode ends with Jon being resurrected somehow (maybe Melisandre kills herself in a "only death can pay for life" type thing).  If this happens, the last shot will be Jon's eyes opening...and then Castle Black probably won't be in episode three at all (a good way to build suspense and HBO seems to enjoy that sort of weapons grade trolling).  As with the Pyke prediction, I'm not as confident about Jon coming back b/c there may not be room in the episode.  

- We briefly see Bran and Max von Sydow gives him a quick talk about his Super Bran powers

- Arya fights the Waif again (who has already shot to the top of my sh!t list) and loses really badly, but does better than last time (maybe at least is swinging her stick in the general right direction).  A third Jaqen lets her return to the House of Black and White.  I hope she wargs into Nymeria and think she will this season, but it seems a bit too early.

- Brienne tells Sansa that Arya is alive, but she couldn't find her after the fight with the Hound.  Sansa gives Brienne a new mission: Go back to the Riverlands, find Arya, and bring her back to a safe part of the North.

- Tommen confines Cersei to her chambers, but the men guarding her collectively crap their pants at the sight of FrankenGregor and get out of the way when she wants to leave.  

-Jaime convinces Tommen to let him confront the High Sparrow.  They have a tense, well-acted confrontation in the Sept of Baelor, but no one dies or anything like that.  The High Sparrow drops his "Every one of us is poor and powerless, and yet together, we can overthrow an empire" line from the teaser.  

- Meereen is still a mess, so Tyrion decides to try releasing the two imprisoned dragons, but he changes his mind when they try to barbecue him.  This is laying the groundwork for when he actually frees them either late this season (or more likely, sometime next season).  We get the "That's what I do.  I drink and I know things" line from the second trailer.

Thoughts?  Agree?  Disagree?  Anyone have their own predictions for the next episode?
13  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Age That You First Got Drunk on: April 27, 2016, 09:24:09 pm
First time I got blackout drunk was earlier this year.  Waking up in an ER and having no idea how you got there is never fun...
14  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Winter is coming back (not GOT, real life) on: April 27, 2016, 05:39:21 pm
Not in the important parts of the world...
15  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Ted Cruz major announcement at 4 PM on: April 27, 2016, 02:05:37 pm
Sad.
16  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Being a YaBB God on: April 26, 2016, 09:33:08 pm
Yellow
and
Blue
Bandana
17  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Recent bans on: April 26, 2016, 09:24:24 pm
Let's be fair, Smith is probably a sock.

I thought it was pretty obvious from the beginning.
18  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Winter is Coming (GoT is back) on: April 25, 2016, 06:49:32 am
Owen Teale is a great actor.  Loved how they've made Thorne an unusually complex depiction of a racist.  ShowThorne has many admirable qualities (see Watchers on the Wall) and clearly believes what he's saying (that he was forced to do something terrible to save the Watch b/c Jon left him no choice) and I like that he didn't try to pretend Jon had anything less than good intentions.  Part of why this works so well is Teale's performance.  

Anyway, the episode was a strong start, set most of the storylines up very quickly, and did so quite entertainingly.

Btw, let's not forget, Dorne was as bad (arguably even worse) in the books.  This isn't a case of "they changed it, now it sucks."  Dorne always sucked.  At least they got a semi-entertaining scene with Doran in this episode.
19  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The ShadLyndfernSmith Quarantine of Sanders/Clinton Inanity on: April 24, 2016, 08:15:48 am
Lyndon is right though. On top of that, they endorsed Kasich yet have treated him like an afterthought joke while shilling for Rubio the entire election season.

I don't blame the kids. They were probably still sucking their mom's teat when the McCain story happened.

Stay classy, Lyndon.
20  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Are you surprised that Straha voted for Hillary Clinton? on: April 23, 2016, 04:29:55 pm
BRTD, who care?
21  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Who will win in the Maryland Senate Primary? (D) on: April 23, 2016, 08:47:15 am
I really hope Van Hollen wins, but unfortunately, I think Edwards is going to narrowly defeat him in the primary Sad
22  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: MO-Sen 2018: Wagner likely running on: April 23, 2016, 08:45:51 am
Let's get through 2016 first.  Around this time in 2004, many pundits were claiming that the Republicans had an unbreakable grip on both Houses of Congress.  There were even claims (I remember Chris Matthews and Rush Limbaugh saying these sorts of things in particular) that the Republicans would be guaranteed to control the House until at least the next redistricting and the Senate for at least the next 20 years.  We all know how that worked out Tongue  As late as June/July 2009 (basically until the Obamacare fight started really heating up in August), it was not uncommon to see articles concern-trolling the end of the Republican party as anything more than a Deep South/regional rump party.  In early 2009, it seemed like almost everyone on a non-Fox news network was going off about how Obama was some sort of Reaganesque prophet of American liberalism who would reshape the political landscape and that the 2010s would see the country make a radical shift to the left on par with its move to the right in the 1980s.

While that's all obviously quite different from saying McCaskill will probably lose (and yeah, the odds really aren't in her favor), she was also supposed to be a goner in 2012 (I even remember that at one point Akin was being touted as the strongest candidate by more than a few Republicans when he first got in, funny what a little hindsight can do to one's opinions Tongue ).  This whole business of predicting Senate races that aren't even up in the coming election cycle, while harmless, is pretty useless on a practical level.  The truth is that we don't have the foggiest idea about what kind of year 2018 will be and there are too many unknown unknowns (and known unknowns, for that matter) to make predictions with the level of confidence some of you guys have been doing in this thread.  

TL;DR: It's to early to say how some Senate races in 2016 (ex: FL-Sen) will shape up, much less 2018 races.  A lot can and will happen between now and then, so we really shouldn't be declaring that Senators are going to get Blanched this far out (not saying McCaskill won't lose badly, but it is really too early to say anything except that she's definitely the underdog at this ridiculously early stage).
23  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: What's next for Greg Orman? on: April 23, 2016, 06:52:48 am
If one of Brownback's group, like Rep. Tim Huelskamp, State Rep. Richard Carson(Chair of the Committee that passed HB2117), Jeff Colyer, or Ron Estes, gets the nomination, I think Orman could win by 5-10 points.

Huelskamp is too weak to win the nomination and Ron Estes will probably run for KS-4 if Pompeo runs against Moran this year.  Haven't heard anything about Carson, but Coyler will likely run for Governor.  That said, Orman won't win against any of these guys, much less by 5-10%.  Plus, I don't think Orman even wants it.
24  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: FL-Sen: GOP recruiting Carson on: April 23, 2016, 06:47:26 am
Might this be the "big announcement" he mentioned yesterday (60 Minutes appearance)?  Or is it yet to come?
http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/david-jolly-to-appear-on-sundays-60-minutes/2274299
No idea. I didn't go into the office today since everyone's down in Hollywood for the conclave and the other guys decided to make it a three day weekend. I was hoping to have some back office gossip to report Tongue.

On a different note, I've been meaning to ask you something.  It seems like in either Tampa or St. Petersburg (I forget which one) the Scientologists seem to exert a huge level of influence over local Republican politics.  Do you have any idea why that is?
25  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: OH-Sen 2018: Mandel launches fundraising effort for possible run on: April 23, 2016, 06:41:29 am
Mandel will almost definitely get in, while Kasich probably isn't interested. That said, The Cleveland Plain Dealer is speculating Pat Tiberi might get in.

Tiberi's a lot more credible a threat than Mandel, so hopefully they get into an ugly primary.

EDIT: DeWine rematch would be foolish, and as X stated, he wants to be Governor. He's held pretty much every-other elected position in the state.

Tiberi doesn't seem to want it, Stivers is probably gonna be the nominee.
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