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1  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: OH-18: Space Official on: Today at 03:30:08 pm
Former congressman Zack Space is running for Auditor while failed Cincinnati mayoral candidate Rob Richardson is running for Treasurer. Space is a good get for Democrats, though it unfortunately means Lorain Mayor Ritenauer is probably out. Richardson says he was approached about running, which I hope isn't true because Leland is a MUCH better candidate.

Always liked Space, glad he's running!
2  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Mike Pence versus Dick Cheney? on: Today at 09:05:28 am
Mike Pence has terrible views, but is not an actual monster. Dick Cheney would eat the still-beating heart of a child's puppy in front of the child if he could make a dollar off of it.

Pence had no problem being the runningmate of a sex predator, defending traitors who thought nothing of selling out our country to Russia (and in doing so, broke his oath of office).  Pence is a far greater monster than Cheney.  Pence, like Paul Ryan and George Wallace, is a man who during one of those rare times when one side was unambiguously evil sold his soul to the devil and never looked back.  The fact that Pence probably knows better isn't a redeeming feature, it makes it worse.  In some ways, it even makes Pence worse than Trump.  

While it's not an excuse, at least with Trump you could (rightly) argue that he's a mentally ill manchild who really should be committed to a mental hospital and treated with some sort medication (which is exactly where he'd be if he didn't have a rich father).  Trump is a sick man incapable of perceiving reality as it actually is, he lives in a fantasyland of paranoid delusions.  OTOH, Pence likely understands full well that irreparable damage may be done to the country and that millions of Americans will needlessly suffer due to Trump's policies (and die in the case of the Obamacare repeal)...he just doesn't give a s*** as long as their suffering advances his career.  That makes him truly evil and if God is just there's a special place in Hell for men like Pence, Ryan, George Wallace, Thomas Watson, etc.  Cheney did many terrible things, but Pence is a whole other kind of monster; there's simply no comparison.
3  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Favorite troll on: Today at 06:33:49 am
Either Vander Blubb or that one sockmaster's The Professor account
4  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Ralph Nader: The Democrats are unable to defend the US on: Today at 06:31:23 am
Yet here we all are, talking about him.
That says more about how pathetic we are than how relevant Nader is.

This.
5  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Rob Portman of 2018 on: Today at 06:29:14 am
I'd be most inclined to bank on Brown, because Mandel just really isn't a good candidate.

I thought about that, but I don't even think that's a competitive race right now, tbh. 
6  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Ralph Nader: The Democrats are unable to defend the US on: June 25, 2017, 06:08:20 pm
Who?

The man who might be responsible for saving more American lives than any other living person on account of his advocacy for seat belt laws and other automobile safety improvements.

Obviously I know who Nader is, but my point is he's completely irrelevant now.  Also, he's a hypocritical egomaniac, but that's beside the point.
Whatever. What he says is obviously quite on target. That's the point.

No one cares what Nader thinks and he has only himself to blame for that
7  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Rob Portman of 2018 on: June 25, 2017, 06:05:11 pm
Manchin
8  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Ralph Nader: The Democrats are unable to defend the US on: June 25, 2017, 05:30:21 pm
Who?

The man who might be responsible for saving more American lives than any other living person on account of his advocacy for seat belt laws and other automobile safety improvements.

Obviously I know who Nader is, but my point is he's completely irrelevant now.  Also, he's a hypocritical egomaniac, but that's beside the point.
9  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Georgia's Very Own Megathread! on: June 25, 2017, 05:27:34 pm
ahahahahahaha Kingpoleon busted!
Could be worse - I could have to wear the Avatar of Shame known as Oklahoma.

You have an Arkansas avatar...

Indeed, but I don't have the avatar of a failed, incompetent state party.

Again, you have an Arkansas avatar.
10  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: 2018 Congressional Recruitment Megathread on: June 25, 2017, 02:32:09 pm
Sinema might be waiting for an open seat in 2022.

Sinema would lose badly, Stanton's our best candidate here.

I don't think Sinema would lose badly, but either way she's not running. Gallego would be a good candidate too.

Gallego can't win statewide in AZ, at least not yet.
11  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: 2018 Congressional Recruitment Megathread on: June 25, 2017, 02:22:01 pm
Sinema might be waiting for an open seat in 2022.

Sinema would lose badly, Stanton's our best candidate here.
12  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Ralph Nader: The Democrats are unable to defend the US on: June 25, 2017, 02:11:05 pm
Who?
13  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Opinion of Jeremy "Jezza" Corbyn? on: June 25, 2017, 07:57:14 am

Because being a Tory hack is the only reason anyone could possibly have for opposing a politician who is (at best) a useful idiot for groups like Hamas and Hezbollah Roll Eyes
14  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Spark498 on: June 24, 2017, 09:03:38 pm
He's not a troll, which actually makes it worse.
15  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: June 2017 Federal Election on: June 23, 2017, 04:16:15 pm
President/Vice President:
1. BK/Ben Kenobi
2. Siren/Goldwater
3. Clyde/Siren
3. Dfwlibertylover/Goldwater
16  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: Lincoln Voting Booth, June 2017 on: June 23, 2017, 04:11:51 pm
Governor

1. Mike Wells
17  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Do you support Evergreen's permaban? on: June 23, 2017, 04:10:18 pm
Evergreen's permaban was long overdue (sane, normal, etc)
18  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Recent bans on: June 23, 2017, 01:33:11 pm
Both Klartext89 and evergreen have been banned for abuse of the terms of service.

Glorious news!
19  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Which animal farm movie did you like better on: June 23, 2017, 12:40:49 pm
Both were absolutely awful; the heavily altered endings in particular were abominations. 
20  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Frank Underwood in the real life on: June 23, 2017, 12:37:53 pm
Frank Underwood should not even exist in his own fictional universe.

This. 
21  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Georgia's Very Own Megathread! on: June 23, 2017, 12:18:47 pm
ahahahahahaha Kingpoleon busted!
Could be worse - I could have to wear the Avatar of Shame known as Oklahoma.

You have an Arkansas avatar...
22  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Why Georgia went R on: June 23, 2017, 12:14:07 pm
The perception of Ossaff as an immature millennial, this still being a pretty R district at heart, Handel being a good opponent, the races extreme nationalization, successful attack ads against Ossaff, etc all hurt.

Handel wasn't that good of a candidate (she didn't even have an incumbent advantage) and Ossoff ran not only a great campaign but messaged himself as best as he possibly could for the kind of reluctant Trump voters in this district. This is what RINO Tom and I have been saying all along: in order to win over these kind of voters in the sunbelt (notwithstanding districts that have changed primarily because of an influx of minorities or millennials), the Democrats are gonna have to moderate more on economics to bring the affluent college educated suburban whites into the fold of the Democratic Party. That's the price we're gonna have to pay to bring them in.

I don't agree. One striking thing is the money and national attention spent in SC 05 versus GA 06. There was next to no money spent in SC 05, no preparation, nothing, Yet, that district returned 48% Democratic. I think that the GOP spent money and nationalized the race to keep the college educated cohort Republican enough to win this race. They had to nationalize and polarize the election through advertisements and spending and national attention to keep it GOP by 4 points. This is a district that was Romney +23 in 2012 and shifted radically in 2016; and clearly has maintained that shift.

I think the GOP had a worse night in the long run. They learned that to maintain the House majority, they need to dial up the polarization to 11 and spend a lot more money while the Democrats can pick off sleeper seats with minimal investment. I think a lot of people are underestimating the dangers of the GOP strategy (they can't polarize a 50-50 country forever without the dam breaking).

We learned the GOP base needs money and national investments to come out whereas the Democratic base is going to storm out no matter what. That actually fits with what we know of the number of specials so far.

This.  It's pretty amusing to see atlas CW do a complete 180 overnight btw.  Suddenly, the Monday morning quarterbacks who were singing Osoff's praises and laughing at how pathetic/desperate the GOP's attacks were seem to have conveniently decided Osoff ran a bland, dull excuse for a campaign that failed to respond effectively to "effective" attacks like the once-infamous Star Wars ad.  Of course, these newly converted chicken littles still aren't half as bad as the True Left internet slacktivists who were basically rooting for Osoff to lose just so they'd have a new excuse to whine about "muh neoliberals." 

The fact is that this is a very partisan and very Republican district where Democrats had no business even trying to keep their loss to single-digits on paper.  The fact that this was a highly competitive race mattered far more than who won and I'd still say that even if Osoff won.  Republicans have about as much to celebrate as they did in 2006 when Jean Schmidt beat Paul Hackett in OH-2.  And I like how the True Leftists conveniently seem to forget that Osoff and Archie "Evulz Goldman Sachs Employee!!!!" Parnell both did better in far tougher districts against much stronger opponents than Rob Quist did in the MT special.  If Osoff's defeat means a suburban strategy won't work, intellectual consistency dictates that Quist's defeat proves a left-wing populist strategy would be a disaster (both absurd claims, but you can't make one while rejecting the other).
23  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Feinstein and Grassley introduce anti-drug bill on: June 17, 2017, 10:28:57 am
It begins... the knives are out for Dianne Feinstein. That's what this is really about, not drug policy.

oh boo hoo. The knives wouldn't be out for her if the bills she signed on to weren't crap.

And you can make this generalization from one cherry picked bill?

https://twitter.com/SenFeinstein

What a conservative.

how about her voting record? She has a progressive punch lifetime score that is about the same as Bill Nelson - a pretty conservative Democrat from Florida, not CALIFORNIA. California can certainly do better.

Also how about this? https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/

Tom Carper's progressive punch score is even more conservative. Why shouldn't he be challenged?

Who said he shouldn't be?
24  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: What do HP/FP and HF/FF mean? on: June 11, 2017, 06:35:33 pm
Geographically it's kind of weird both from the West and someone from Cali kind of hurts the whole 'rural Dem' message Bullock would try to run on. Bullock/Klobuchar makes more sense.

Let the states decide

Discuss with maps
25  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Donald Trump vs Jermey Corbyn on: June 11, 2017, 05:01:41 pm
Trump is worse, but I'd never vote for either one.
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