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1  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: A white privilege tax: an idea whose time has come? on: Today at 01:45:37 pm
I'm sure this will turn out to be a constructive thread.

Working on it.
2  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: A white privilege tax: an idea whose time has come? on: Today at 01:44:30 pm
I would prefer mandatory castration of white males.

I will outtroll any troll here.
Would you support the case for the creation of a Chinese style eunuch bureaucracy?

Nah. White eunuchs do not make good bureaucrats.
3  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: No Fortune 100 CEOs Back Republican Donald Trump on: Today at 11:33:59 am
Wow! Republicans are now the party of socialism. Hilarious.

LOL, didn't a self-proclaimed socialist almost win the Democratic nomination, pulling his opponent to more or less adopt all of his main economic policies in the process (an end result that Democratic voters were more than okay with)?  By any objective measure, Donald Trump's fiscal policies are more business-friendly than Hillary's; this speaks a LOT more toward how terrible of a candidate Donald Trump is than some shift in party coalitions that Santender and ag fantasize about at night.  What do you want to bet that the wealthy, the educated and all these other groups that forum Democrats have been trashing as over-privileged for years vote solidly Republican in House races?

Republican party, of course, is not socialist at this point. It is National Socialist.
4  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: A white privilege tax: an idea whose time has come? on: Today at 09:18:53 am
I would prefer mandatory castration of white males.

I will outtroll any troll here.
5  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: No Fortune 100 CEOs Back Republican Donald Trump on: September 23, 2016, 11:35:12 pm
   Don't think too many CEO's like the idea of restricting immigration, or even the talk thereof.  All aboard the Brazilification train.

I see, the Nazification brigade has made its appearance.
6  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump Advisor: "Every critic, every detractor, will have to BOW DOWN to..." on: September 23, 2016, 08:26:38 pm
What role will Omarosa have in the cabinet?  I'm thinking SecDef

Homeland Security.
7  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump Advisor: "Every critic, every detractor, will have to BOW DOWN to..." on: September 23, 2016, 08:19:51 pm
I'm pretty sure Trump only wants to be President because, well, he wants to be President. So, having achieved this improbable feat, I'm sure he would find it quite easy to slip into the role of figurehead for a Republican Congress, with a few concessions here and there on style, and possibly on his signature issues of trade and immigration. This is essentially what was proposed in his attempted rapprochement with Kasich in order to get the latter to join the ticket. If he does go off the wall, his dearth of committed support amongst the Republican Congressional Caucus will be enough to check any unwise decisions.

Mexico had an example of this. His name was Antonio Lopez de Santa Ana. He would become president, then resign in favor of his vice-president, then come back, and on, and on, and on. Eventually, he lost half of Mexico to the US.
8  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: No Fortune 100 CEOs Back Republican Donald Trump on: September 23, 2016, 08:13:37 pm
This is really amazing.  Isn't the GOP supposed to be the party of big business?

No. We are a worker's party. Big business needs to go.

No, you are the lumpenproletariat party. Like every other fascist movement in history.
9  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The ultimate Versailles for Trump supporters.. on: September 23, 2016, 07:08:58 pm
Obama election.
10  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Russian legislative election, 18 September 2016 on: September 23, 2016, 06:26:44 pm
Vladimir Volfovich Eidelstein Zhirinovskiy

Wait.

Wait.

Zhirinovsky is a Jew? Zhirinovsky?!

He first tried it out in public politics as a lawyer for some Jewish club in the late 1980s. It was only a year or two later that he was designated by the KGB to become the official Soviet fascist.
11  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump Advisor: "Every critic, every detractor, will have to BOW DOWN to..." on: September 23, 2016, 06:14:04 pm
So atlas is now calling Omarosa a "trump advisor....." ......alright.......

Well, not that he listens more to those officially designated as "advisors". She is as much of an advisor as he is capable of having.
12  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: 2016 Newspaper Endorsement Thread on: September 23, 2016, 04:29:27 pm
The MN Star Tribune endorses Trump (after endorsing Gore, Kerry and Obama twice):

http://www.startribune.com/the-case-for-trump/393785771
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaat

As they have already expalined here, it did not Smiley
13  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: Elections were the running mate made the difference? on: September 23, 2016, 03:01:27 pm
eh it's more the perceptions- people don't vote because they like having LBJ as Vice President

It was not the matter of people liking LBJ as VP. It was LBJ bringing in the full force of his political machine: something that he would, probably, not have done if he were not on the ticket.
14  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: 2016 Newspaper Endorsement Thread on: September 23, 2016, 02:31:36 pm
So, of the 7 endorsements HRC has for the moment, 4 papers had endorsed Romney back in 2012.
15  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Can you Democrats please stop panicking? on: September 23, 2016, 11:59:14 am
Dims blew that when they nominated Clinton over Bernie.

If Bernie were the nominee, he'd get crushed like Mondale did. There's a reason Republicans didn't attack him in the primary: they wanted to run against a crazy old socialist. They would have flooded the airwaves with ads like this and this and this and he'd lose probably the same map that George McGovern did in 1972.

If Bernie were the nominee, Trump would have been organizing pogroms by now.
16  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Should Chris Christie go to jail? on: September 22, 2016, 10:18:27 pm
Seems like, the right answer is "yes".
17  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Disabled black man executed on sight by Police, reportedly for holding a book on: September 22, 2016, 10:17:33 pm
The guy had a gun, that's what the video the family was shown has. That's what the City says. It's sad but this one I don't think is murder.

Was he not allowed to have a gun?
He was allowed to have a gun. North Carolina is an open carry state. I don't know why he was shot, but. I don't believe this book nonsense, but I hope justice takes its course.

     Not to excuse their actions, but regardless of the laws open carrying around the police is probably not good for anyone's health.

Which is one reason why open carry is a terrible idea, but as long as it's the law cops who shoot first and ask questions should no longer be allowed to hang their hat on "he had a gun."

Exactly. Either carrying a gun is legal: in which case a policeman claiming to see a gun has no more defence against prosecution for murder here than if he were claiming the dead man was carrying a  copy of US Constitution. Or it is not: in which case we can start talking. But you cannot have both.
18  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Opinion of the 2016 US Presidential Election thus far? on: September 22, 2016, 10:00:41 pm
Horror of horrors.
19  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Russian legislative election, 18 September 2016 on: September 22, 2016, 01:17:58 am
Will Putin go full on North Korean and require the three other parties to join a United Front with UR, and then present voters with a single candidate list?

Nah. No need to. More trouble than it is worth.

And, BTW, this would not be North Korea. This is good old Soviet Russia. There were no "other parties" there. There was just the strong and united "Bloc of the Communists and non-party members".
20  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What could plausibly come out and actually damage Trump? on: September 22, 2016, 01:14:26 am
The only thing that could, possibly, damage him, if it were to emerge that he has spent a few days seriously studying policy issues. Nothing else could. He could be raping and murdering tiny blind kittens on live TV: his crowd would call them vicious tigers.
21  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Is Trump's 2016 campaign the biggest con job in American history? on: September 22, 2016, 01:11:02 am
yes.

He is like the other politicians who ran who also conned the public (GWB being his closest comparison), if just dislike him more it's because you disagree with him personally on the issues *you believe* he represents.

Not at all. I had issue disagreements with GWBush. With Trump it is far beyond disagreements. He is a clear and pleasant danger to human civilization.

To anyone who makes bold statements like this, they should clarify what they think of someone like Pat Buchanan, if they make a similar assertion regarding Buchanan, while calling a Bush 'good compared to Buchanan' then it's clearly bias.

That being said, this is still an exaggeration, were Caudillos 'threats to human civilization'?


I have no clue what you are saying. Buchanan was not a serious run. He never conned anyone. It was a minor diversion from the mainstream of American politics. He never stood a chance, he knew it, and so did everybody else.

In any case, Buchanan was infinitely more qualified than Trump. Though, of course, he would have been a disastrous and disgusting president. But, at the very least, however disgusting his views, he was not running on a platform of destroying the United States. Trump is: and he is having a major probability of winning. That is the biggest con in US history. Forget Buchanan: he is beating both Charles Ponzi and Bernie Madoff.
22  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Is Trump's 2016 campaign the biggest con job in American history? on: September 21, 2016, 05:43:30 pm
The Republican party is built around an entire philosophy of economics that is literally a scam: trickle down economics.  We can somehow lift everybody's livelihoods just by making it easier for the rich to hoard wealth, so they say.  Well, we've been trying that for over 30 years and how are those results looking?  Abysmal.

Donald Trump is the natural culmination of a party that deliberately lies to its base, encourages willful ignorance, and exploits fear and division.  Donald Trump is the brain child of Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush.


I disagree. Do not mix Trump with the general Republican views of the economy. Most real Republicans who have any views on it, do not find anything in Trump that would be appealing to them. He is as antithetical to the Republican traditional economic positions, as he is to anybody else´s.
23  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Is Trump's 2016 campaign the biggest con job in American history? on: September 21, 2016, 05:41:36 pm
yes.

He is like the other politicians who ran who also conned the public (GWB being his closest comparison), if just dislike him more it's because you disagree with him personally on the issues *you believe* he represents.

Not at all. I had issue disagreements with GWBush. With Trump it is far beyond disagreements. He is a clear and pleasant danger to human civilization.
24  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: If Donald Trump wins, will government workers stop being paid? on: September 21, 2016, 05:40:32 pm
yes, of course. They will be paid with ious, which at some point, will be renegotiated.
25  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Is Trump's 2016 campaign the biggest con job in American history? on: September 21, 2016, 03:19:43 pm
yes.
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