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1  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Grand jury reaches decision in Ferguson case (Announcement Monday night) on: Today at 01:49:23 pm
It seems, from what is up in the NYTimes, that the prosecutors really wanted to avoid the indictment.
2  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: 12-year-old Shot Dead by Police on: November 24, 2014, 01:57:33 am
This is a tragedy, but the cop wasn't in the wrong. That gun looked realistic, the kid reached for
it when he was told to put his hands up, the cop was a rookie, ect.

I hate American police with a passion, but this one doesn't muster up much outrage.

What, then, are you hating them for if this "doesnŽt muster up much outrage"? Taking away your beer in the park?
3  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Revisiting the Czechoslovakian elections of 1946 on: November 18, 2014, 10:55:27 pm
Ag, right the elections in Russia was for a Constituent Assembly.  I wonder what kind of a constitution would have been drawn up had it been allowed to work.

Well, it would have been fairly leftwing in any case. By November it was, mostly, various shades of socialists and minority parties that ran. The leading group in the Assembly were the "Right" Socialist Revolutionaries - the somewhat more moderate faction of the party behind the main terrorist organization in the country.

The main problem for them was that the SR were not willing to simply drop out of WWI unconditionally right that moment. And the soldiers were not willing to go on fighting even for another day. That was what decided it for the Bolsheviks: they had the army on their side.
4  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Revisiting the Czechoslovakian elections of 1946 on: November 18, 2014, 01:44:36 am
    Concerning Czechoslovakia, what I find so intriguing is that there were no Soviet occupation troops to enforce full communization from December 1945 on, and also President Benes was, I believe, a respected figure.  The conditions for escaping a communist outcome were better in Czechoslovakia than anywhere else in eastern Europe, but alas it was not to be.

Entering Czechoslovakia en force is not such a hard job. Germans did it in 1938, Russians did it in 1968. They had been allocated to the Soviet Zone - and that was, unfortunately, it.

The reason "Finlandization" was possible is that they had a certain respected gentleman, called Carl Gustav Mannerheim there. And that gentleman was known for administering a major bloodletting to the Russians 3 times in the previous 25 years or so. They knew, they could, probably, impose their designs on Finland in 1945 - but that would have meant, actually, fighting another war. In 1945 Finns would have lost, of course - but they would have killed a lot of Russians in the process. And once they would have started fighting, the Brits and the rest would have been hard-pressed not to support them, at least in supplies. Stalin was not ready for another hot war just yet.

Czechs, on the other hand, do not fight, nor was Benes a Mannherheim - and Stalin knew that. Their only chance was finding themselves, at least partially, in a US occupation zone. They didnŽt have the luck. Benes was used to sanctify expulsion of the Germans. After that his usefulness was over.
5  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Revisiting the Czechoslovakian elections of 1946 on: November 18, 2014, 01:36:05 am
Yes, I'm quite aware of the elections for the Duma held after the Bolshevik takeover.  IIRC, the Bolsheviks won about 20 %, the SR  (Social Revolutionaries) about 40%.  Then when the Duma was going to sit, the Bolsheviks disbanded it.

Duma? What Duma?

It was (to have been) the Constituent Convention. Uchereditelnoye Sobraniye. Uchredilka, if you wish to be familiar. Duma was history by then.
6  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Romania 2014 - 2/16 November 2014 on: November 18, 2014, 12:57:02 am
Wonderful news! The Germans are back in town.

??

You do not get the reference to Klaus Werner Iohannis?
7  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Revisiting the Czechoslovakian elections of 1946 on: November 18, 2014, 12:47:55 am
At best Czechslovakia might have ended up Finlandized tho given the geopolitics, that probably could only have happened in Czechia had it not been reunited with Slovakia.

A necessary condition for any of that would have been, at the very least, Americans staying in Pilsen. Then, there could have been some sort of trade on the American occupation zone.
8  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Revisiting the Czechoslovakian elections of 1946 on: November 17, 2014, 10:01:46 pm
Right after the Bolsheviks came to power in Russia (via a coup) they actually lost an election. Not that you would remember it: it did not matter. At all.

Don't worry: had there been a non-Communist majority here, it would have been dealt with. Communists did not take over in Czechoslovakia because they won an election.
9  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Romania 2014 - 2/16 November 2014 on: November 16, 2014, 11:53:25 pm
It does not even look close. With 14,424/18,847 precincts reporting (if I understand the Romanian right), it is

Iohannis 54.81%
Ponta 45.1%

Iohannis lead is over 850,000 votes. So far, they have counted just over 200,000 foreign votes, so this is not going to be decided by the expats either.
10  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama to announce executive order on immigration on: November 14, 2014, 10:52:57 pm
I take offense for those who suggest opposition to amnesty is about race.

Well, that pretty much says that you take offense at Hispanics in general (as this is a fairly established view among the Hispanics). Which, kind of, makes you racist, doesn't it? Your remark about the few "good Jews" notwithstanding.
11  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama to announce executive order on immigration on: November 14, 2014, 10:51:17 pm
I take offense for those who suggest opposition to amnesty is about race. I can't count the number of Hispanic Americans I've met at tea party rallies, at local GOP events, etc. who oppose amnesty.

Greg Abbott won 44% of the Hispanic vote in Texas, for heaven's sake. How well did John McCain do?

If you disagree with Democrats because you want to secure the border before giving amnesty to 4 million undocumented immigrants, it obviously makes you a racist. Hence if you think voter ID, which is active in basically every First World Country, should be enforced, you are a racist and are trying to suppress voters.

Well, to be fair, it may be that you are in favor of voter ID laws because you are merely completely ignorant of the US history.
12  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama to announce executive order on immigration on: November 14, 2014, 01:21:23 am

The problem is the polling is so overwhelming in opposition o the exeuctive approach. We tend to get so lazer focused on the Hispanic vote and that we begin to think they are the only demographic in a state like CO or NV.

The people for whom this opposition is important enough to determine their vote are already voting for Republicans. The great source of untapped vote are the Hispanics (though, there are also Asians to be considered).
13  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama to announce executive order on immigration on: November 14, 2014, 01:18:37 am
Amazingly, this is the most glaring example of what I have been saying about most of the so called reform bills, in that in a misguided attempt at a "fix" the problem will be worsened. Giving amnesty alone makes it worse by encouraging others to make the same choice (they got amnesty, all I have to do is get there and sooner or later I will too).

Well, considering that last time it was, what over 25 years back, that "sooner-or-later" is not particularly promising. Better put it this way: "they got amnesty, all I have to do is risk my life getting across the border, then spend most of my productive years working three menial jobs for small pay, risking being deported at any time, and then, if I have not been deported, I will too".

Of course, the only way to properly solve the problem is actually providing a legal migration path into the US. But that is not seriously contemplated by anyone in any case.
14  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama to announce executive order on immigration on: November 13, 2014, 11:33:45 pm
Obama is behaving like a dictator. He has no right to force amnesty on America.  If he does, impeachment proceedings must begin.

How? Roll Eyes

How what? If the President of the United States usurps federal law, he should be impeached.

I guess, the sole overriding objective in your life is to ensure election of a Democratic president in 2016. You should change to a red avatar, though.
15  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Ukraine Crisis on: November 13, 2014, 10:54:33 pm
So, once again there are persistent rumors of Russian attack this weekend. Not the first time, of course.
16  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama to announce executive order on immigration on: November 13, 2014, 10:53:26 pm
KCDem is right, as is increasingly becoming the case. If they want to stay here legally, then they're gonna have to pay. Luckily, they can pay in votes, which are free and you get a sticker after, so it's actually not that bad.

The issue is not the - currently illegal - immigrants voting. That will not happen for the moment - there is no naturalization path feasible without congressional action. The issue is the Hispanic citizens of the US voting - and, oh, yeah, they will, if this works out as designed.
17  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama to announce executive order on immigration on: November 13, 2014, 10:51:16 pm
I'm happy he is doing it, but he just ruined anything else happening you might like in his presidency, a fact you all know but won't admit. 

Well, perhaps he has figured out that there isn't that much happening in the rest of his presidency, and will now be working full-time for Hillary campaign. 
18  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama to announce executive order on immigration on: November 13, 2014, 10:49:12 pm
This is perfectly exemplified in the lack of trust towards Obama and doing this will have destroyed any chance to address this legislatively and perhaps that is a good thing considering where the entire media and most of the leadership is now on the issue.

There has always been zero chance in hell of addressing this legislatively. Too toxic for too many people. But, if played well, it will make for a great Hispanic turnout next time.
19  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama to announce executive order on immigration on: November 13, 2014, 10:44:48 pm
Message to the GOP...



Obama and the Dems want you to shut down the government over this. They know that the only GOPer to win the PV in the last 6 elections (Bush 2004) got 44% of the Latino vote (by supporting immigration reform) and Mitt Romney got 27% (by pushing 'self-deportation')

Exactly. And, even if the government stays open, most definitely a few people can be relied upon to say things that will make great news (and, later, commercials) on Univision.
20  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama to announce executive order on immigration on: November 13, 2014, 10:43:09 pm

Romney would have lost amongst Hispanics anyway for the same reason he lost overall because he offered nothing that could promise a better outcome for low income working and middle class voters. No healthcare alternative, nothing stubstantive on education, didn't endorse minimum wage hike until over a year afterwards and so forth.

The issue is not winning among Hispanics - at this point no Republican presidential candidate can do this. The issue is turnout. There is one sure way to fire up Hispanic turnout - make the immigration reform very salient. In addition to doing wonders to excite Hispanics (and, BTW, Asians) by itself it may also have a spectacular side-effect of encouraging some Republicans say things that will be viewed as highly offensive even by the most conservative third-generation Cubans.
21  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Ukraine Crisis on: November 13, 2014, 02:01:20 pm
Nah, Obama can hold his arms back while Abbott does the punching. I posted it in the Aus thread, but I'll post it here too, Russia has sent warships to sit off the coast of QLD during the G20 meeting, and that offends me deeply.

Plus what does he think is going to happen if they actually engage? The US and Australia are the firmest of allies, and there is no way a missile on Bundaberg isn't met with one on Omsk, from the US, UK, or whoever. All it is is bullying and posturing and I can't believe Putin is so readily prepared to trash his nation's image further, after they shot down and killed 38 Australians, with such a stupid act.

I guess, Mr. P. is afraid, they are going to detain him in Australia, so he is sending in the Navy, in case a rescue is necessary Smiley
22  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Ukraine Crisis on: November 12, 2014, 01:15:09 pm
But, you know, those troops do not wear a uniform!
23  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Cohn: GOP House majority may now be unshakable for a generation on: November 11, 2014, 11:58:16 pm
I was surprised that there were several NY districts that were relatively close.  A slight demographic change or coat tails could swing them.    I think there are a few potentially winnable seats out there for the GOP.

This was a bad year for Dems in NY. And demographic change in NY tends to go the other way. As for coattails - in presidential years youŽd get very different turnout, so that would not help. So, you would need a very strong gubernatorial candidate. Not impossible - but even then I would have to see it to believe it.
24  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Scandal in the German Bundestag during November 9 commemoration on: November 10, 2014, 02:46:03 am
Biermann is mostly right, but impestive and chose the wrong platform to talk.
Gyzi is mostly wrong, a old relic than Die Linke should get rid of and he also also chose the wrong platform to talk.

This is the right platform: it is the Bundestag.

No, it's a commemorative event to commemorate the fall of the Wall. It must unite the population, not divide it with political debates.

So, when commemorating the end of WWII we should unite with the Nazis?

Stop comparing apples and oranges.

Stop trying to whitewash the criminal GDR regime.
25  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Scandal in the German Bundestag during November 9 commemoration on: November 09, 2014, 07:07:57 pm
Biermann is mostly right, but impestive and chose the wrong platform to talk.
Gyzi is mostly wrong, a old relic than Die Linke should get rid of and he also also chose the wrong platform to talk.

This is the right platform: it is the Bundestag.

No, it's a commemorative event to commemorate the fall of the Wall. It must unite the population, not divide it with political debates.

So, when commemorating the end of WWII we should unite with the Nazis?
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