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1  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump to meet with Theresa May on Friday on: Today at 04:24:02 am
You badly misread UK sentiment if you think that's the case.  There's no way the UK will agree to the common labor market.  It barely tolerated it once it's outside of the EU.  Similarly, the UK would be a fool to join in the common agricultural policy once it's exited the EU.  Economically, the UK might benefit it it did as you think it will, but history shows that all too often people, companies, and countries don't act in their own best economic interests because of a wide variety of reasons.  I don't think the UK (assuming it remains united) will do as you think it will and the resulting economic pain will be seen as a result of the EU punishing the UK for being uppity. That feeling will make UK acceding to EU rules even less likely, not more.

Oh, sure, there is that sentiment. It will pass, though, once the common labour market means that unemployed Brits get access to the jobs on the continent. Once the stories of poor English deportees, who merely wanted to work as home attendants in Spain or Scotland, start dominating the press, it will not take long for that sentiment to change. They will think it is an incredible achievement that the are allowed to get in. It will not happen at once, but it will certainly happen by, say, 2035.

Assuming, of course, we survive the next 10 years as a civilisation.
2  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump to meet with Theresa May on Friday on: Today at 03:28:50 am
Amazing. Hope they start the trade deal talks soon, showing other EU countries leaving it doesn't have to be economically disastrous. Also hoping for more foreign policy cooperation.

The UK cannot negotiate a trade deal with anyone while still being a member of the EU. So it won't happen until at least 2019.

And that will show to everyone that leaving the EU is economically disastrous.

What will the EU do if the UK starts negotiating now?  Throw the UK out of the EU?  While they can't go into effect before the UK leaves, there's no mechanism for penalizing the UK for negotiating ahead of time.

They can stop all negotiations for as long as the negotiations with the US go, forcing the UK, eventually, to accept whatever ultimatum it is given at the very end of the two-year period, without any time for a counter-proposal.

BTW, herein is another problem: I doubt the UK has enough qualified negotiators for both processes.

That seems to be what the EU plans on doing anyway, punish the UK for daring to leave and thereby keep other countries from doing the same.  If countries can't leave the EU, then perhaps it's time for the US (and other countries) to revive the lesser diplomatic position of envoy and only send an ambassador to the EU and send lower-ranked envoys to the member states thereof.

Oh, the EU will insist on UK leaving. And there will be no punishment. UK will simply adopt all EU rules and regulations wholesale (including those it has opted out from), and commit to adopting an changes EU is going to impose in the future, without participating in making those decisions.  It might take a decade or so to get there, but they will do this absolutely voluntarily: because they will find it worth doing.

And, no, there will be no punishment.
3  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump to meet with Theresa May on Friday on: Today at 02:59:38 am
She'll be the first foreign head of government to meet with Trump since his inauguration:

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-38707524


I hope her bodyguards are well trained. I'd hate to see US-British relations destroyed by President Pussygrabber's uncontrollable sex drive. Maybe the Secret Service can confiscate his tic-tacs?

I am sure he can wait till he sees Peņa Nieto on the 31st. They will have pretty rough sex, and EPN will confirm it was consensual.
4  General Discussion / History / Re: 5 Former Presidents Again on: Today at 02:58:12 am
Sadly, unless Trump pulls a Palin and resigns mid-term, we're likelier to go down to 4 than up to 6 next. It's unlikely both Carter and Bush 41 last 4 more years.

Well, he could also be impeached. He would still be a former president.
5  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump to meet with Theresa May on Friday on: Today at 02:54:41 am
Amazing. Hope they start the trade deal talks soon, showing other EU countries leaving it doesn't have to be economically disastrous. Also hoping for more foreign policy cooperation.

The UK cannot negotiate a trade deal with anyone while still being a member of the EU. So it won't happen until at least 2019.

And that will show to everyone that leaving the EU is economically disastrous.

What will the EU do if the UK starts negotiating now?  Throw the UK out of the EU?  While they can't go into effect before the UK leaves, there's no mechanism for penalizing the UK for negotiating ahead of time.

They can stop all negotiations for as long as the negotiations with the US go, forcing the UK, eventually, to accept whatever ultimatum it is given at the very end of the two-year period, without any time for a counter-proposal.

BTW, herein is another problem: I doubt the UK has enough qualified negotiators for both processes.
6  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Women's March Megathead on: Today at 02:44:12 am
Abortion is down -- way down. Maybe it is because fewer women are getting raped. Maybe it is because people got more optimistic while Obama was President.
Actually, the consensus is that abortion is down because access and use of contraception is up, no thanks to those who keep flogging failed "abstinence only" programs of sex ed.

So the Trump administration wants to defund Planned Parenthood, making access and use of contraception harder to come by for many females. How smart is that?

It is: once you understand that they are, actually, pro-abortion.

In fact, in the interest of honesty and clarity, I suggest a slight modification of the usual terms. The so-called "pro-life" people should be designated as "pro-abortion", while the "pro-choice" folk should proudly carry the name of the "anti-abortion". Would cause a lot less confusion than the terminology we (mis)use now.
7  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: NJ law would require tax returns in order to appear on ballot for President on: Today at 02:33:00 am
Hence, the Fifth Amendment might apply if a presidential candidate had sources of income that came from illegal activities.

Yeah, I guess and exception would be needed for that case. I am sure the current president would have had to use it.
8  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump team prepares dramatic cuts on: Today at 02:12:16 am
I will say something strange: I do not care. In the scale of the disasters that await us, the minor things like the funding for this or that does not matter. Nor, for that matter, at this point do I care about ridiculously minor things like tax rates, etc. And I am an economist.

At this point, whether you are a socialist, a liberal, a neoliberal or a libertarian, whether you believe in public ownership or in laissez faire: if you are a decent human being, economic views should not matter.

So, what do I think of a Trump policy on (whatever)? I hate it. Irrespective of whether I have argued for or against the very same thing for the last 20 years.
9  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Do you miss Obama already? on: Today at 02:04:11 am
Of course.

But, then, at this point I even miss GWBush. Hey, in a month or two I might be missing Nixon.
10  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Have you gotten more conservative or liberal recently? on: Today at 02:02:14 am
I am what I am. Have been what I have been for many years.

The world, though, has become very hostile to people like me. I hear that.
11  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: What political Party and idealogy do I belong? on: Today at 02:00:28 am

Favor Donald Trump like trade but not increased tariffs


What the hell does that mean?
12  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Europeans see Trump very negatively on: Today at 12:45:41 am
U kno fair play to ag unlike uid ilk wr didn't kidnap good catholic boys back in the day and eat them

I am sure, Mr. DavidB will enjoy your support Smiley
Absolutely, I love Cassius.
Had no doubts of that. You would have been chummy with good old Al Rosenberg as well.
That's not Al's last name, but sure, I like that British poster too.
Be careful: Cassius tells me he has just eaten a missionary for lunch. He may misunderstand what it means you "like" him.
13  General Politics / Economics / Re: What is the next big thing economically? on: Today at 12:43:45 am
ooh eeh ooh ah ah chink chink warra wra bing chink

Ah, I guessy you had a missionary for lunch?
14  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2020 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: The democrat slogan for 2020 on: Today at 12:42:46 am
Letīs get over this National Nightmare!
15  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Europeans see Trump very negatively on: Today at 12:37:27 am
U kno fair play to ag unlike uid ilk wr didn't kidnap good catholic boys back in the day and eat them

I am sure, Mr. DavidB will enjoy your support Smiley
Absolutely, I love Cassius.

Had no doubts of that. You would have been chummy with good old Al Rosenberg as well.
16  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump to meet with Theresa May on Friday on: Today at 12:34:41 am
Can only imagine what the meetings would be like between Trump and Corbyn if the latter actually manages to become PM while Trump is president.


It would be a love fest.
17  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Predict the first year of Trump's Presidency on: Today at 12:31:34 am
the President of the United States will, probably, rape a kitten right in the Oval Office, for which feat he will be awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor. Afterwards, raping kittens will become the best new fashion in the Grand Rapids suburbs.
18  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: The Trumps and Camelot on: Today at 12:29:39 am
I'd describe the Obamas as attractive, intelligent,  and accomplished. Though I imagine black skin is a real turn-off for Winfield, bright orange is much better.

How dare you make such a stupid insinuation about me with your reference to black people.


Sorry, mate. Given the shyte you have been writing, no insinuation is too stupid anymore. You only have yourself to blame.
19  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Europeans see Trump very negatively on: Today at 12:24:55 am
ut insult capacity I'd very high

I am sure, I would have enjoyed your insults if they were in English. What is it, BTW? Some sort of a Papuan creole? Sounds fascinating. Where are you from? Have you ever been to America?

BTW, who is there for lunch?

Pls lad I cnt do English bo good I ain't on the levels of wallaealla bujg bang evinced by ur good self


Not lucnh, the club fair play, well post club smashedness, I'm sure u undeatand, I means I kmn ab illiterate cunt the majority of the time bur at time alike this the cunt lliterates cuntness increases to exponential levls of ed cuntneds

Sorry, mate. I simply do not understand shyte here. If you want me to figure this out, please speak some civilized European language (and, mind it, Scottish Gaelic is not a European language as per Australian law).
20  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Which leaders will not survive 2017? on: Today at 12:20:59 am


The Lib Dems tend to do best when they can a)localise the election (e.g. run a campaign about speed bumps or something)

You may be right. But localising the election was, actually, the Goldsmith strategy in Richmond Park. LibDems somehow thought that nationalising it would be a better strategy. I do not recall, how did it end?
21  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Europeans see Trump very negatively on: Today at 12:16:36 am
I will leave it to our reader to evaluate the insult quality Smiley
22  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Europeans see Trump very negatively on: Today at 12:15:02 am
ut insult capacity I'd very high

I am sure, I would have enjoyed your insults if they were in English. What is it, BTW? Some sort of a Papuan creole? Sounds fascinating. Where are you from? Have you ever been to America?

BTW, who is there for lunch?
23  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama Commutes Bulk of Chelsea Manning’s Sentence on: January 21, 2017, 11:51:08 pm
Even if you don't like the fact that she's trans, Chelsea is legally her first name now, so calling her Bradley is incorrect. Why be incorrect on purpose?

Yeah, this reminds me of militant atheists who refuse to capitalize "God" when talking about the Biblical God, whom they could at least acknowledge as a character in the Bible who has a proper noun for a name..

"God" is not His name Smiley
24  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Women's March Megathead on: January 21, 2017, 11:48:31 pm
Real men don't talk about "toxic masculinity". We know clearly who the alpha males and the beta males are.

Also, I love kindness. But you can't be kind to everyone. You can't be kind to rapists, terrorists, criminals, thugs. Extreme tolerance gave us 9/11.

.01/10. Troll harder.
I'm not a troll. I'm a realist. You're not a realist. Keep aiding the enemy, and we'll get more 9/11s and 11/13. We can not be tolerant to refugees and terrorists.

No one uses dumb terms like "beta" and "alpha mate" without a hint of irony to it.  If you're not a troll, you're clearly overcompensating.
I'm not a troll. I'm a realist. Y'all aren't realists.

You would not recognize reality if it were sitting in front of you eating tsimes. All your life is just one gigantic psichotic hallucination. And you are talking of realims?

 You cannot bring in millions of refugees...

Yeah, you are hallucinating. I am afraid, anti-psychotics are inevitable if you are to be restored to being a healthy and productive member of the society.
25  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Europeans see Trump very negatively on: January 21, 2017, 11:47:15 pm
U kno fair play to ag unlike uid ilk wr didn't kidnap good catholic boys back in the day and eat them


I am sure, Mr. DavidB will enjoy your support Smiley
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