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1  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: She went there: Hillary releases ad about KKK's support for Donald Trump on: Today at 12:09:43 pm
Good.
2  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Be honest: If this election were between... on: Today at 09:13:10 am
Why would Trump's genitals matter? Not that we know whether he has any as it is. In any case, dick or no dick, Trump is the absolute worst thing that can happen to America.
3  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Racist Moderators on: August 24, 2016, 01:31:00 pm
Ag's point, for those of you who don't get it, is that "white" is a pretty arbitrary category whose definition can change pretty radically depending on both when and where you live.

On a different note, trying to explain the significance that nationality had in the Soviet Union (or even that "Jew" was generally seen as an ethnic rather than religious category) to Americans is always a weirdly difficult task, and I have no idea why ag resorted to using Soviet nationality to make his point when there're a million much better examples of his point closer to home that wouldn't require explanations of Soviet ID cards that Americans aren't generally familiar with.

I think beyond that he likes to use racial categories as stand-ins for positions in the social hierarchy. So that rather than referencing an ethnic or racial group white simply designates "privileged oppressors" or something along those lines. There was an equally angry debate when he used Jewish in a similar way a while back.


There are whole corners of the internet that use "Jews" as stand-ins for privileged oppressors.

You mean, "Mountain Jews" ?!
4  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Why Vets are Still Backing Trump after Khan Controversy on: August 23, 2016, 09:53:16 pm
I'm pretty sure Trump has the support of the veterans who tortured prisoners in Abu Ghraib.

Oh snap no you di-int!

Somebody find that female soldier from West Virginia in the Abu Ghraib photos and ask her who she's supporting. After the way she was thrown under the bus by the Bush Administration, it shouldn't be Trump.

Not that I condone what went on with Abu Gharaib.  But that female soldier who was thrown under the bus by the Bushies would probably appreciate how Trump took on Bush in his own party.  Trump has done more to discredit the Bushes than any Democrat ever.

I am happy to note that you are happy to associate with that "female from WV" (BTW, her name is Lynndie England). In fact, I have no doubt you would be very happy to see you son photographed like this



Actually, given what you have told us about him, I am sure he would have liked such a photo himself.
5  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump Campaign Manager's History of Anti-Catholic Rhetoric on: August 23, 2016, 09:40:27 pm
I'm a very very very devout Catholic, I don't find this offensive at all.

I have no doubt you think you are more Catholic than the Pope Smiley
6  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Why Vets are Still Backing Trump after Khan Controversy on: August 23, 2016, 09:39:08 pm

As I said in the thread about Khan, Trump was most likely right.


Smelling urine already?
Cheesy

I will make sure that nobody here ever smells anything else, trust me Smiley
7  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Why Vets are Still Backing Trump after Khan Controversy on: August 23, 2016, 08:55:41 pm

As I said in the thread about Khan, Trump was most likely right.


Smelling urine already?
8  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Why Vets are Still Backing Trump after Khan Controversy on: August 23, 2016, 08:03:28 pm
Must have a pretty dark heart.

My youngest adult son served in Afghanistan, and is voting for Trump.

Does EVERYONE who votes for Trump have a "dark heart"?  If you think that, is your heart darkened by being over-politicized?

Sure. He is, probably, voting for Trump because Trump presidency would have you die earlier and he wants to avoid having to take care of you when you get old. Dark heart indeed!

Is this meant as irony? Or are you really such an ugly, spiteful, and cruel - in a word, Trump-like - person?

In the world of Trump, all of us are Trumps.

Or, to put it the way I have put it before: Trump has made it certain that none of us will be able to taste our coffee without urine ever again.
9  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: South African local government elections - August 3, 2016 on: August 23, 2016, 06:18:41 pm
ANC gets Ekurhuleni mayoralty.
10  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Labour Party (UK) Leadership Election, 2016 on: August 23, 2016, 06:15:58 pm
Ugh. I thought Corbyn was at least above this kind of dishonesty. At this point I'll be heartbroken if he still somehow wins.

What do you mean by "somehow"?
Clarification to the foreign posters: he will win.

Well, another reason to be hopefull about the LibDems Smiley
11  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Which pander to Hispanics was more cringeworthy? on: August 23, 2016, 06:09:53 pm
Jeb Bush, actually, is part of it. It is not even pandering: it is his life. Nothing to cringe from.

Trump isn't pandering either. Or, at least, not pandering to Hispanics. It is pandering to white Americans without a college degree. And, yeah, it is cringeworthy.
12  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Why Vets are Still Backing Trump after Khan Controversy on: August 23, 2016, 06:06:35 pm
Must have a pretty dark heart.

My youngest adult son served in Afghanistan, and is voting for Trump.

Does EVERYONE who votes for Trump have a "dark heart"?  If you think that, is your heart darkened by being over-politicized?

Sure. He is, probably, voting for Trump because Trump presidency would have you die earlier and he wants to avoid having to take care of you when you get old. Dark heart indeed!

Are you as stupid in person as your posts are?

My posts, most definitely, reflect who I am Smiley

Well I can at least respect you ...

Not, really, necessary Smiley
13  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Why Vets are Still Backing Trump after Khan Controversy on: August 23, 2016, 05:08:16 pm
Must have a pretty dark heart.

My youngest adult son served in Afghanistan, and is voting for Trump.

Does EVERYONE who votes for Trump have a "dark heart"?  If you think that, is your heart darkened by being over-politicized?

Sure. He is, probably, voting for Trump because Trump presidency would have you die earlier and he wants to avoid having to take care of you when you get old. Dark heart indeed!

Are you as stupid in person as your posts are?

My posts, most definitely, reflect who I am Smiley
14  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Racist Moderators on: August 23, 2016, 01:01:54 pm
Ag's point, for those of you who don't get it, is that "white" is a pretty arbitrary category whose definition can change pretty radically depending on both when and where you live.

On a different note, trying to explain the significance that nationality had in the Soviet Union (or even that "Jew" was generally seen as an ethnic rather than religious category) to Americans is always a weirdly difficult task, and I have no idea why ag resorted to using Soviet nationality to make his point when there're a million much better examples of his point closer to home that wouldn't require explanations of Soviet ID cards that Americans aren't generally familiar with.

I think beyond that he likes to use racial categories as stand-ins for positions in the social hierarchy. So that rather than referencing an ethnic or racial group white simply designates "privileged oppressors" or something along those lines. There was an equally angry debate when he used Jewish in a similar way a while back.



I see, some people do pay attention! Smiley
15  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Racist Moderators on: August 23, 2016, 01:01:01 pm
Yes, I remember enormous anguish over his statement that criticism of Israelis couldn't be anti semitic because the Jews are a minority race, and by living in a majority Jewish nation they were no longer a minority and therefore no longer Jewish Cheesy

Being Jewish means being a persecuted minority. Arabs are Israel's Jews, of course!
16  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Racist Moderators on: August 23, 2016, 12:59:47 pm
According to the rules here, a whole thread of attacks against one poster doesn't seem permitted.  But hey, if I'm wrong, some genius with the ToS in his comp can correct me.  And  yes, I think a thread entitled Racist Moderators is a personal attack. 

Email or pm Dave.

Myself, as the resident fascist, I am quite happy to be here Smiley
17  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: South African local government elections - August 3, 2016 on: August 23, 2016, 12:56:55 pm
Ekurhuleni has elected ANC speaker 117 to 106 votes, with one ballot spoiled. Looks like an ANC mayor there later today.
18  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Why Vets are Still Backing Trump after Khan Controversy on: August 23, 2016, 12:48:32 pm
Must have a pretty dark heart.

My youngest adult son served in Afghanistan, and is voting for Trump.

Does EVERYONE who votes for Trump have a "dark heart"?  If you think that, is your heart darkened by being over-politicized?

Sure. He is, probably, voting for Trump because Trump presidency would have you die earlier and he wants to avoid having to take care of you when you get old. Dark heart indeed!
19  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Racist Moderators on: August 22, 2016, 02:47:45 pm
Ag's point, for those of you who don't get it, is that "white" is a pretty arbitrary category whose definition can change pretty radically depending on both when and where you live.

On a different note, trying to explain the significance that nationality had in the Soviet Union (or even that "Jew" was generally seen as an ethnic rather than religious category) to Americans is always a weirdly difficult task, and I have no idea why ag resorted to using Soviet nationality to make his point when there're a million much better examples of his point closer to home that wouldn't require explanations of Soviet ID cards that Americans aren't generally familiar with.

It some times takes a foreign custom to see ridiculousness of one's own Smiley

In any case, I always liked the Mountain Jews. Does give a feeling there is something in common between us and goats Smiley
20  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: South African local government elections - August 3, 2016 on: August 22, 2016, 02:32:28 pm
DA's Herman Mashaba elected Johannesburg mayor with 144 council votes against 125 for the ANC incumbent.

Ekurhuleni, the last major of interest, should be resolved tomorrow.
21  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What would it take to end Trumps chances? on: August 22, 2016, 01:30:35 pm
It would take Clinton being replaced as the nominee*, because she is the only reason that Trump has as much of a prayer as he does. Trump vs anyone else would have been case closed by this point.

* assuming she isn't replaced with Bernie Sanders

Actually, this is, probably, almost the best imaginable way of improving Trump's chances.  Replacing Clinton, assuming this is not done because she is asssassinated or something similar, means that the Democratic party is going to be severely divided for an extended period of time. Furthermore, Clinton political campaign is well-oiled and ready to go: anybody else would be struggling to improvise. Finally, whom would she be replaced with? The only realistic possibilities this late in the game are Biden or Kaine. Biden is only everybody's favorite grandpa because he is not running. He is, actually, gaffe-prone, and would not be hard to demonize. Kaine, being Clinton's pick, would have to answer for whatever sins that get Clinton replaced.
22  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Racist Moderators on: August 22, 2016, 12:51:27 pm
It's kind of sad how no one seems to get AG's point even after 3 pages. It isn't that difficult (especially if one has read his previous discussions on related topics).

Suffice it to say it isn't a racist point. Duh.

Well, I guess my efforts are not entirely in vain Smiley
23  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: South African local government elections - August 3, 2016 on: August 22, 2016, 10:34:18 am
DA's candidate Vasco da Gama (no joke!) is elected council speaker in JB. EFF councillors insisted on showing their (secret) ballots before depositing them: either a post-Rustenburg demonstration, or loyalty control. DA candidate is now clearly expected to become mayor.
24  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What would it take to end Trumps chances? on: August 22, 2016, 10:30:59 am
Major stroke, probably. Even then: most of his people would vote for him even if his is in a permanent vegetative state.
25  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: Racist Moderators on: August 22, 2016, 10:27:50 am
So my 1/4 German mostly Lutheran ancestry is white, but my 1/4 German mostly Catholic ancestry isn't, and I'm really only about 3/4 white? Did my pastor become white once he converted? Did Newt Gingrich become non-white once he converted?

I would put it this way. All of your ancestry may have been and not been white at various moments in time. In fact, any part of it could have been white and not white simultaneously Smiley

By the way, was your ancestry German of the FRG or German of the GDR?

The German Empire. In terms of what states it ended up being I don't have a clue.

So, GDR or FRG? I insist. How else would we know which nationality to enter for you in the Soviet census?
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