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1  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Walker (and others) join Trump, calling for ending birthright citizenship on: Today at 07:26:16 am
Most people, who come to the US for the purpose of having US-citizen kids, do so with a visa and, frequently, flying in first class.  Nothing illegal about that.
2  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Europe-Middle East-Africa Refugee Crisis General Thread on: August 31, 2015, 10:45:01 am
No, Islam is not a problem per se. The problem with Islam is a worldwide problem where it has replaced Communism as the new practical big-tent enemy of the self-righteous Western world. Therefore, any movement the Islamic world makes is considred a threat.
I'm quite gobsmacked to see people still deny the real problems with Islam(ism) in 2015. I mean, it takes quite some cognitive dissonance to act like, for example, 9/11, the killing of Theo van Gogh, the London public transport bombings, the Madrid train bombings, the Charlie Hebdo attack, and the surge of ISIS, Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Muslim Brotherhood never happened... Then again, for so many True Leftists everything wrong in the world is the West's fault Roll Eyes

Brider yidn, such brider yidn.
3  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Singapore September 11th 2015 elections on: August 30, 2015, 10:26:21 am
Is this not more of an electoral-type event?
Probably not. The PAP enjoys genuine support of a clear majority and won't need to stuff any ballot boxes to win a landslide. It's more an election than event.

Yeah, but they turn off the electricity in areas that don't support them.

The PAP is too suave to do that. The Party provides scholarships to the highest achievers in school, to study at the world's best universities so that they would return to Singapore and enter the civil service. Hence, it can legitimately claim to be the most competent choice. Its vast patronage network also means, of course, that only by joining the PAP can anyone realistically effect change.

On the other hand, it uses its courts to disqualify opposition candidates on technicalities, harass critics with libel suits, and uses the media to highlight the opposition's unreadiness to assume power.

Once it's safely in power, it's surprisingly open to debate on actual policy matters. As long as you don't threaten their hegemony of course.

One of my strongest impressions from Singapore was how identical different anglophone papers were (given, that almost all of them share ownership, I presume the same is true in other languages). They were bland, of course: but the business paper and the Straights Times could have almost been accused of plagiarism.  And, of course, book costs: they practice censorship through pricing, it seems.
4  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Turkey General election - Fall 2015 on: August 29, 2015, 11:03:36 am
But what if he intends to poison his tea?

Even then Smiley

I doubt Davutoglu would be the first choice of Erdoganista AK rank-and-file.
5  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Turkey General election - Fall 2015 on: August 29, 2015, 10:01:13 am
Well he might... but I wouldn't if I were in his shoes. Instead I would brief that things were worryingly close: rally to the polls to defeat the old guard people!

Is it obvious that Davutoglu wants a strong victory? A result like the last one, which, finally, installs him as a coalition PM, makes him the Turkish leader. An outright victory keeps him Erdogan's second fiddle.
6  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Europe-Middle East-Africa Refugee Crisis General Thread on: August 28, 2015, 03:07:34 pm
I find the notion that ag is ruining any thread incredible.

Why?

Because it seems to be Xahar's learned opinion that Europeans have nothing to contribute on any subject unless it is perfect concordance with the wishes of those of, ah, entirely or partially non-European heritage, whatever those wishes might be. He's made this rather clear on numerous occasions, and, I guess, he's entitled to that view.

I know that, but even if you agree 100% with ag I fail to see how you can enjoy his wild detours and deliberate misunderstandings of opposing arguments and facts. It is a style that forces his opponents to keep repeating arguments over and over again, which ruins any meaningful exchange of ideas. He is generally among the least funny and most tiresome trolls here (so even if you enjoy "funny" in this tragic context, which I do not, there is little to gain).

Well, at least you acknowledge I am not being funny.

You, of course, believe my "detours" are beside the point. The problem is, your arguments are not so much "opposing" from where I come at it, as equally beside the point. I do not misunderstand you: I understand every single word you are saying - and find it awful. I know that you mean what you are saying, and that it is somehow important to you: hence, I do not claim you are trolling. I do find a lot, of what you are saying, quite immoral.
7  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Serious question: When will the US start taking in asylum seekers ? on: August 28, 2015, 02:54:59 pm
The US has now agreed to take in 8.000 Syrian aslum seekers next year.

8 friggin' thousand.



The US took 1.3 mln. Indochinese refugees. How many did Austria take?
8  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Europe-Middle East-Africa Refugee Crisis General Thread on: August 28, 2015, 10:58:33 am
I find the notion that ag is ruining any thread incredible.

Am I? If this is the consensus, I will stop.
9  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Europe-Middle East-Africa Refugee Crisis General Thread on: August 28, 2015, 09:39:36 am
But rize of nationalist parties may tear down th EU

NATO gets the credit for that.

And, of course, Finland is NOT a NATO member Smiley
10  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Europe-Middle East-Africa Refugee Crisis General Thread on: August 28, 2015, 07:51:50 am

I am not trying to get your sympathy. You as a person are completely irrelevant in this discussion. I am trying to explain the political realities in Europe and what I think will happen.

I will tell you what will happen. WWIII will happen. And sooner than you expect. Pandering to racial resentment rarely ends well.

And what shall this war be? Eritrea and Syria vs the EU?

As usual: Germany invading Denmark, of course.

Why? So they can send the refugees on the vast unpeopled expanses of Greenland?

again, I am jesting. But rize of nationalist parties may tear down th EU, and...
11  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Europe-Middle East-Africa Refugee Crisis General Thread on: August 28, 2015, 06:16:20 am
You might want to discuss a change of meds with your doc.  These, aren't, working.

I will think about it Smiley
12  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Europe-Middle East-Africa Refugee Crisis General Thread on: August 28, 2015, 06:13:28 am

I am not trying to get your sympathy. You as a person are completely irrelevant in this discussion. I am trying to explain the political realities in Europe and what I think will happen.

I will tell you what will happen. WWIII will happen. And sooner than you expect. Pandering to racial resentment rarely ends well.

And what shall this war be? Eritrea and Syria vs the EU?

As usual: Germany invading Denmark, of course.

I may be jesting here, but it is sad jesting.
13  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Mexico June 7th 2015 elections on: August 28, 2015, 02:24:31 am
Just to clarify one thing. Ags. 1 elections were not annulled because of some irregularities on election day. The Tribunal ruled that there was unfair interference by the governor (a priista) during the campaign. It would seem that this should imply a new campaign, including the new nominations, but I am not certain.
14  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: How similar are Germany and Austria? How different are they? on: August 28, 2015, 01:28:08 am
So what is next? How similar are France and Belgium? How different are they?

Smiley
15  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Mexico warns Texas not to refuse its immigrants' babies U.S. birth certificates on: August 27, 2015, 11:42:24 pm
On one hand, Mexican government is merely trying to figure out what forms of ID the US agencies in question would accept. The consulate is doing one of its basic jobs: assisting its own citizens in relationship with the host government.

Then, of course, we are not saints here either. For decades Chiapas authorities have been doing the same thing as the Texans - only to Guatemalans, etc. I believe, this has changed recently, but it used to be very difficult for a child of Guatemalan citizens without legal Mexican papers to obtain a Chiapas birth certificate. And, of course, Mexico, like the US, has the birthright citizenship.
16  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Europe-Middle East-Africa Refugee Crisis General Thread on: August 27, 2015, 11:00:03 pm
so we can start having these factual debates.

Factual debates about what? What is it exactly that you would like to debate? I have asked you that very question. I hoped that the answer would be "what can we do to minimize death and suffering among the migrants?". Perhaps, subject to realistic political constraints - no problem there. But I hoped that it is minimizing death and suffering that would be the subject you would want to discuss. Ufortunately, that is, in fact, something you want to avoid discussing.
17  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Europe-Middle East-Africa Refugee Crisis General Thread on: August 27, 2015, 10:55:57 pm
or deliberately misunderstanding what I write.


I am afraid, I am simply understanding you too well for your own comfort.
18  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Europe-Middle East-Africa Refugee Crisis General Thread on: August 27, 2015, 10:55:05 pm
I just want to be clear. I am perfectly aware of the fact that my personal preferences about migration are not very representative, to say the least. I am, in fact, perfectly aware of the fact that most people dislike foreigners. And, of course, I am more than aware of the European and US politics involved. I am, in fact, perfectly willing to discuss political implications: who wins, who looses, how Mr. Wump exploits this and how the Worrik party plays that: this is all good fun.

And, of course, I am always willing to talk about how one can implement policies that would result in improvement of human welfare. A discussion of how the current situation can be reformed to avoid people drowining in the sea and suffocating on buses is, most definitely, in order. And political constraints are very much valid constraints that any policy-maker has to take into account.

But... Is it that hard to understand why I start screaming?


Can't you do it elsewhere instead of ruining immigration threads on Atlas?


Trust me, I do not merely do this on Atlas. The key word here is "immigration", though. Where exactly should I be screaming about immigration?
19  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Europe-Middle East-Africa Refugee Crisis General Thread on: August 27, 2015, 10:52:50 pm


Also, I probably write more about African and other non-European politics than any other poster here (although Simfan might be catching up), so the can not see beyond Europe line is a low blow.



Why would it be a low blow if it were not true? Half the Jewish posters here have called me an anti-semite, and I am not losing my sleep over that.
20  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Europe-Middle East-Africa Refugee Crisis General Thread on: August 27, 2015, 10:50:25 pm
2) You can not meaningfully compare Europe to Canada, Australia, USA because those countries are not defined as national homes for a particular ethnicity. Comparing with Japan, Korea etc. makes a lot more sense.
The idea that Australia in the 1970s did not see it self as being for a particular ethnicity is a misreading of history. Granted the "White Australia" policy was on its last legs then, but it wasn't quite yet gone. Even in Canada and the US, our immigration policies had not foreseen the vast increase in Asian immigration that happened.

Actually, yep. I have missed that whoopsie. Australia has, probably, had the biggest ethnic and racial change over the last 50 years than any other country that did not go through a major ethnic-cleansing-accompanied war.

But, you know, for a Dane there is no politics outside Europe Smiley

Of course there is, but settler societies were able to make that transformation without losing their core identity (for some partly because they were still in the later stages of an ongoing nation building phase when it happened). Australia had already made the transformation from being Anglo-Celtic to being all-round "White" before the Asian immigration started and was obviously never considered the national home/core territory of the British nation. Populate or perish was a more decisive moment because it redefined what Australia was supposed to be (and even then Australia incorporated many different groups).

Another factor is that Australia, Canada, USA are large continental countries that are natural entities in many ways (large enough to encompass diverse economies and form the basis of strong states) , whereas European countries today exists to house a particular people and their culture (even if many have old historical roots). There is no need for a Hungary if not to act as the home land of Hungarians and to act as base for Hungarian culture and language. Just as there is no need for a Samoa if not to act as the home land for Samoans and a for the Samoan culture and way of life.

This is, really, the reason why you think I am trolling Smiley Fundamentally, for me there is no need for any country in particular, if it is to be defined in these terms. My own identity is a Russian speaker is not dependent on the existence of Russia. And, of course, my own Jewish identity is independent of the existence of Israel. Romantic European nationalism has exactly no attraction to me. In fact, it is very much incomprehensible.

BTW, what is the need for Austria? Or Belgium? And why is then there is not need for Prussia or Silesia? And where is the space for the entire EU project in all that?
21  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Europe-Middle East-Africa Refugee Crisis General Thread on: August 27, 2015, 10:44:06 pm


And you are wasting my time when you refuse to acknowledge things like the influence of the different composition of refugees groups (a pretty basic and important fact)

Influence on what? On Danish domestic politics? No question about that, never raised any doubts about that. But I thought this was not a Danish politics thread.
22  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Europe-Middle East-Africa Refugee Crisis General Thread on: August 27, 2015, 10:26:12 pm
I just want to be clear. I am perfectly aware of the fact that my personal preferences about migration are not very representative, to say the least. I am, in fact, perfectly aware of the fact that most people dislike foreigners. And, of course, I am more than aware of the European and US politics involved. I am, in fact, perfectly willing to discuss political implications: who wins, who looses, how Mr. Wump exploits this and how the Worrik party plays that: this is all good fun.

And, of course, I am always willing to talk about how one can implement policies that would result in improvement of human welfare. A discussion of how the current situation can be reformed to avoid people drowining in the sea and suffocating on buses is, most definitely, in order. And political constraints are very much valid constraints that any policy-maker has to take into account.

But... Is it that hard to understand why I start screaming?
23  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / International Elections / Re: Mexico June 7th 2015 elections on: August 27, 2015, 10:10:50 pm
Well, there is, obviously, no valid objection. PRIistas are just a lot better at creating and exploiting loopholes than others. This is why I shudder every time our wonderful opposition parties go for another electoral reform. So far, unerringly, they have each time been making the law worse.

Anyway, the crucial thing now is the Ags. 1 election. This is almost the last chance for PT to get in. They did have over 3% in the district the first time - though barely. They would need, probably, to double that to cross the 3% nationwide (so far, they are off by about 3,000 votes - which is pretty much 3% of a district turnout). Given the stakes involved, I could see that happening. The possibilities range from PT getting in and PAN winning the district (which would give PT 6 PR seats, of which, I believe, 3 would come out of PRI/PVEM total, bringing it down to 247 - against 109 for PAN in that case) to PRI winning this with a "legally PVEM" candidate - which would give the PRI/PVEM combine 251 seats out of 500.

Wait, for this re-vote are parties allowed to switch candidates, form or dissolve alliances from the first vote, or to withdraw their candidates.  In AGUASCALIENTES  PRI and PVEM did not have an alliance or else PRI-PVEM would have easily won 2 out of 3 seats.  So are PRI PVEM allowed to form an alliance for this revote?  If so then "obviously" the PRI-PVEM candidates will be a "PVEM member."  But in the first vote PRI and PVEM ran separately.    On the issue of PT, should PRD not just withdraw their candidate and call on all PRD voters to vote PT, who is an ally after all.  An ally who is going to get dissolved is not a useful ally.  The PRD vote share, if they mostly turn out and mostly vote PR should be enough for PT to get the 3000+ votes it needs.  Will PRD will be allowed to do this? And if so, will they?

Good question. I do not, really, know. If I see Lorenzo, I should ask.
24  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Europe-Middle East-Africa Refugee Crisis General Thread on: August 27, 2015, 10:08:29 pm


I am not trying to get your sympathy. You as a person are completely irrelevant in this discussion. I am trying to explain the political realities in Europe and what I think will happen.

I will tell you what will happen. WWIII will happen. And sooner than you expect. Pandering to racial resentment rarely ends well.

BS

May be yes, may be no.
25  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Europe-Middle East-Africa Refugee Crisis General Thread on: August 27, 2015, 10:07:10 pm


Now you are just trolling. It is the move from political refugees to a more broadly defined group where economic motives mix with general oppression and ethnic persecution that is central, not race. (See the flight to America comparison).




It is, of course, very important to distinguish between racial and ethnic persecution, because.... Sorry, havenīt been able to figure out the continuation.

Huh

Cmon. That is besides the point. I refuse to believe you do not get my argument here.

I get them too well. As I told you: I can understand, but not forgive.
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