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1  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Obama to announce sweeping changes in Cuba policy today! on: Today at 03:29:36 pm
Anyways, word is that the top choice for the first ambassador to Cuba in over 50 years is a former Florida governor who discussed visiting Cuba during his campaign and was seen visiting the White House five days ago.

Crist?

Crist was at the White House on the 12th apparently
2  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Georgia's Very Own Megathread! on: Today at 08:36:30 am
It shows how far the GOP went in order to eliminate Barrow when his seat voted more Republican than the seat of the state's longest serving Republican Congressman
3  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Greece General Discussion on: Today at 08:27:40 am
^ that poll would give a parliament as follows (take it with a grain of salt though because the undecideds aren't factored in):

SYRIZA: 143
ND: 81
XA: 18
KKE: 17
Potami: 17
PASOK: 15
ANEL: 9
4  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: UPDATE-OPOLY on: Today at 05:29:20 am
RIP JJ
5  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Joe Republic Bureau of Funny Post Archival on: Today at 02:22:51 am
6  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Greece General Discussion on: Today at 02:21:11 am
Haha wow so they're literally already undermining the Tsipras Government before it begins
7  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Greece General Discussion on: Today at 12:38:04 am
relevant bit of Greek Constitution:

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4. Should the third ballot fail to produce the said qualified majority, Parliament shall be dissolved within ten days of the ballot, and elections for a new Parliament shall be called.
As soon as the Parliament thus elected shall have constituted itself as a body, it shall proceed through vote by roll call to elect the president of the Republic by a three-fifths majority of the total number of Members of Parliament.
Should the said majority not be attained, the ballot shall be repeated within five days and the person receiving an absolute majority of the votes of the total number of Members of Parliament shall be elected President of the Republic. Should this majority also not be attained, the ballot shall once more be repeated after five days between the two persons with the highest number of votes, and the person receiving a relative majority shall be deemed elected President of the Republic.

8  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Recall Amendment (Debating) on: December 17, 2014, 09:45:44 pm
edit- I left the page open for a while before posting so I didn't see polnut posted above me so he might also have concerns like mine

I like the idea, but my concerns:

A. Some (all?) regions already have a way to recall their elected officials. This amendment should explicitly state either that existing regional recall procedures are replaced by this process, or that this process shall only occur on the regional level in regions that don't have recall elections. Otherwise it'd be very confusing to have two competing recall procedures in existence at the regional level.
B. I don't like the requirements in Section 2 because it allows for the possibility of someone getting recalled even if a majority vote against the recall. Also the way it's set up there's no reason to vote against a recall: if you're opposed to a recall it's better to just not vote, in an attempt to keep turnout below 25%, because the election itself is just determined if there are enough voters in favor of the recall.
C. I don't like the requirement that it has to be on a specific day of the month. Why not just have the recall occur the weekend after the SOFE certifies the petition?
D. I'd prefer if this was specifically added to some portion of the Constitution proper, because standalone amendments are really difficult to notice given the constitution's setup on the wiki

9  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: General Senatorial Discussion on: December 17, 2014, 06:53:01 pm
BUMP

Friendly reminder that the current Senate is still in session for 15 more days, so lame ducks plz don't be quite so lame yet
10  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Fun fact: NCYankee has been in the Senate for over half of its existence on: December 17, 2014, 06:47:03 pm
http://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Senate_History

He was first elected to the 32nd Senate, and we're now wrapping up the 64th. Congrats NCYankee!
11  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Atlas Forum IRC Channel, Thread 2 on: December 17, 2014, 05:06:39 pm
getin.gif
12  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Civil Rights Act of 2014 (Voting on Amendment) on: December 17, 2014, 04:55:36 pm
My concern with that clause is that it takes an exclusively female space away from women. I'm especially concerned with like, bar bathrooms and other such places where sexual assaults might rise from this
13  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Article of Impeachment Against Senator Bacon King on: December 17, 2014, 03:47:27 pm
Bump
14  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of "SJW and porn" blogs on Tumblr on: December 17, 2014, 01:45:27 pm
HB's

Being the opposite end of the average Klansmen (today where they practically a joke obviously) or Westboro does not a good person make.

Fighting misogyny by becoming a misandrist, racism with some more racism, anti-secularism with anti-theism (but especially anti-Christianity) is not something more enlightened, and ultimately a distraction from actual social justice.

And that's not going into my views of porn.

Huh? How on Earth are things like drawing attention to the terrible victim-blaming that occurs to rape victims or bringing light of the testimony of a North Korean refugee (see the link above) anything like what you describe?

But why does that North Korean refugee's testimony have to be in a series of pointless GIFs that distract from the text? Why not just a video or a transcript of her speech?

Let's be real here nobody on tumblr is going to read through a transcript or actually click something to go see a video. A series of GIFs is the most effective way to inform your generation about anything

Perhaps they should? That people, even politically-minded people, are so averse to complex information, in-depth analysis, and very often morally grey issues, and so keen on communicating their views through posterboard scrawlings and Beyonce gifs, is both puzzling and infuriating. Have we really gotten so shallow?

I think it's just an information burnout brought about by modern advertising and clickbait culture. When people care about something they still really care it's just hard to get someone to take that first step into caring enough to learn about something in the first place, just because of all the background noise.
15  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of "SJW and porn" blogs on Tumblr on: December 17, 2014, 01:36:06 pm
HB's

Being the opposite end of the average Klansmen (today where they practically a joke obviously) or Westboro does not a good person make.

Fighting misogyny by becoming a misandrist, racism with some more racism, anti-secularism with anti-theism (but especially anti-Christianity) is not something more enlightened, and ultimately a distraction from actual social justice.

And that's not going into my views of porn.

Huh? How on Earth are things like drawing attention to the terrible victim-blaming that occurs to rape victims or bringing light of the testimony of a North Korean refugee (see the link above) anything like what you describe?

But why does that North Korean refugee's testimony have to be in a series of pointless GIFs that distract from the text? Why not just a video or a transcript of her speech?

Let's be real here nobody on tumblr is going to read through a transcript or actually click something to go see a video. A series of GIFs is the most effective way to inform your generation about anything
16  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: BRTD's Obessions on: December 17, 2014, 01:34:05 pm
His trolling of IMDB asking he should take his 10 year old daughter to see R/NC-17 rated movies.

omg yes BRTD's ten year old daughter is the very best thing
17  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Greece General Discussion on: December 17, 2014, 01:32:30 pm
RIP Samaras Government
18  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of "SJW and porn" blogs on Tumblr on: December 17, 2014, 01:12:24 pm
SOMEONE SAID MISANDRY

*takes a shot and crosses out the corresponding square on his RedPiller Fedora BINGO board*
19  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Hey BRTD on: December 17, 2014, 01:08:51 pm
You get stuff by hacking portals of both colors

You defend portals by putting resonators on them and also mods

You capture portals by destroying enemy resonators with XMPs. To fire an XMP you don't click on the portal you just hold down on the map screen and then the button to fire XMP will show up just above your finger

You link up your side's portals in triangles to get points for your side

Best way to level up is to asplode (lower level) enemy portals and capture them and link them if you can, you will only have low level stuff so they'll get taken back over quickly but that's good because then you can turn around and capture them again for more experience

When you use your energy from recharging a portal or lose it from being attacked, you get the energy back from hacking portals or walking around and picking up the blue dots (XM aka exotic matter)

That's basically all I've figured out so far Lief
20  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: BRTD's Obessions on: December 17, 2014, 12:42:52 pm
Write-in: sexy communist guerilllas
21  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Sanity in Foreign Policy Act (Voting on Amendment) on: December 16, 2014, 08:47:32 pm
TNF what about lend lease to the USSR?
22  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Civil Rights Act of 2014 (Voting on Amendment) on: December 16, 2014, 05:05:54 pm
Hang on. How does one propose to make foreign governments pay any kind of reparations to African Atlasians? I can't think of any way in which this can be achieved.

I would assume a lawsuit at the World Court would be an option, failing any diplomatic agreement. It's just a request for a plan from the Secretary of the Interior, and he can determine the feasibility of something like that at his discretion.
23  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Civil Rights Act of 2014 (Voting on Amendment) on: December 16, 2014, 02:47:54 pm
Amendment to replace this:

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Section 2. Combating Racism and Safeguarding Minority Rights

1. The Republic of Atlasia shall institute a program of reparations for African Atlasian descendents of slavery upon the passage of this Act. All persons able to prove slave ancestry (and document it as such to the Department of Internal Affairs, which shall establish guidelines for the process upon the passage of this bill) shall receive $600 per week (adjusted annually for inflation) from the federal government as restitution for a period of 100 years (beginning upon the passage of this legislation), at which point the program shall be terminated.
2. The Republic of Atlasia shall honor all treaty obligations with Native Atlasians, and shall provide restitution for land and resources stolen from them over the course of the past four centuries. The amount of restitution provided shall be determined via negotiations between Native Atlasian nations and the Department of External Affairs, which shall begin no later than six months following the passage of this legislation. In addition, the Republic of Atlasia shall provide a reparations program identical to that described in Subsection 7 of Section 2 of this Act for Native Atlasians able to prove at least 1/4th Native Atlasian ancestry.

With this:

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1. Within thirty days of the passage of this Act, the Secretary of the Interior shall provide the Senate with a report on how to most effectively implement a program of reparations for African Atlasian descendents of slavery. This report shall allocate the estimated amount of reparations owed by the Atlasian government, Atlasia's regional and state governments, corporations historically complicit in the institution of slavery, and foreign governments that allowed slavery to occur in their colonial territories that eventually formed Atlasia. The report shall also propose guidelines on the most effective method(s) of collecting and disbursing these reparations.
2. The Republic of Atlasia shall honor all treaty obligations with Native Atlasians, and shall provide restitution for land and resources stolen from them over the course of the past four centuries. The nature and the amount of restitution provided shall be determined via negotiations between Native Atlasian nations and the Department of State, which shall begin no later than six months following the passage of this legislation. Whenever any restitution agreement provides for direct reparations to individual members of a Native Atlasian nation, the Republic of Atlasia shall provide identical reparations to all other Native Atlasians who are not registered members of the relevant Native Atlasian nation but can prove their eligibility for membership within it.
24  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Free Exchange Act (Voting) on: December 16, 2014, 01:00:37 pm
Nay
25  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Sanity in Foreign Policy Act (Voting on Amendment) on: December 16, 2014, 12:59:11 pm
Nay

There's nothing wrong with the bill as is, unless of course you're a warmonger.

I think there are circumstances where arms sales are appropriate, which is why my amendment allows them to be conducted with Senate oversight. To use a historical example, the "Actual End to Imperialism" Act would have prohibited us from sending lend-lease shipments to support the defense of the United Kingdom and the Soviet Union defence against Nazi Germany in WW2. It also prevents us from selling our older naval vessels to other countries (no matter how peaceful the other country is) which IRL is a decent way to recoup some of the cost spent to build them
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