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11851  General Discussion / History / Re: How would you have treated confederate leaders? on: August 23, 2007, 06:26:29 pm
complete pardon.
11852  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Illegal Alien, Hid in Church for Year, is Deported, Finally on: August 23, 2007, 06:03:56 pm
Anyway, our opinion isn't that illegal aliens should stay here unidentified and "illegally."  They should be given amnesty and free citizenship instead.

^^^^

You seriously support that crap Bacon? When that belief comes mainstream it will then be time to vote from the rooftops.

Honestly, I fail to see why we shouldn't make legal immigration much easier. And if legal immigration is to be made easier, it only makes sense that the same new laws apply to people who already reside in the country.
After penalization because they broke our laws.

Why punish someone for breaking laws that shouldn't exist in the first place?
11853  Election Archive / 2008 U.S. Presidential Election Campaign / Re: Obama on the Daily Show on: August 23, 2007, 05:27:43 pm
Stewart did a good job highlighting how the media has a bit of a bias against Obama.
11854  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Who are most the liberal, moderate and conservative members on the Atlas forum? on: August 23, 2007, 12:19:08 pm
Liberal: Ebowed, Speed of Sound, TexasGurl, Opebo
Moderate: Joe Republic, Jas, Ernest, Yates (lol)
Conservative: Inks, States Rights, PBrunsel, Keystone Phil
11855  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: 2008 candidate selector on: August 23, 2007, 12:11:56 pm
1.  Theoretical Ideal Candidate   (100%)
 2.  Barack Obama   (68%) 
 3.  Dennis Kucinich   (67%) 
 4.  Alan Augustson (campaign suspended)   (64%)
 5.  Kent McManigal (campaign suspended)   (64%) 
 6.  Ron Paul   (62%) 
 7.  Mike Gravel   (61%) 
 8.  Christopher Dodd   (59%) 
 9.  Michael Bloomberg (not announced)   (59%) 
 10.  Al Gore (not announced)   (57%) 
 11.  Wesley Clark (not announced)   (56%) 
 12.  Hillary Clinton   (55%) 
 13.  Joseph Biden   (55%) 
 14.  Bill Richardson   (53%) 
 15.  John Edwards   (49%) 
 16.  Elaine Brown   (37%) 
 17.  John McCain   (37%) 
 18.  Mike Huckabee   (36%) 
 19.  Mitt Romney   (35%) 
 20.  Rudolph Giuliani   (35%) 
 21.  Chuck Hagel (not announced)   (32%) 
 22.  Sam Brownback   (31%) 
 23.  Tommy Thompson (withdrawn)   (31%) 
 24.  Fred Thompson (not announced)   (29%) 
 25.  Newt Gingrich (not announced)   (29%) 
 26.  Tom Tancredo   (25%)  
 27.  Jim Gilmore (withdrawn)   (21%) 
 28.  Duncan Hunter   (20%)


Pretty close to how I would have ranked each candidate.

I'd switch Kucinich and Bloomberg though.
11856  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Notice to the Governors: An Amendment Has Passed on: August 23, 2007, 12:05:44 pm
bumping tit

lol.
11857  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Illegal Alien, Hid in Church for Year, is Deported, Finally on: August 23, 2007, 11:30:24 am
Anyway, our opinion isn't that illegal aliens should stay here unidentified and "illegally."  They should be given amnesty and free citizenship instead.

^^^^

You seriously support that crap Bacon? When that belief comes mainstream it will then be time to vote from the rooftops.

Honestly, I fail to see why we shouldn't make legal immigration much easier. And if legal immigration is to be made easier, it only makes sense that the same new laws apply to people who already reside in the country.
11858  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Atlasian Pro-Life Caucus on: August 23, 2007, 11:06:42 am
I'll join.
11859  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Illegal Alien, Hid in Church for Year, is Deported, Finally on: August 23, 2007, 10:24:02 am
Anyway, our opinion isn't that illegal aliens should stay here unidentified and "illegally."  They should be given amnesty and free citizenship instead.

^^^^
11860  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: Southeast Voting Booth: Expansion of Presidential Line Item Veto Power Amendment on: August 23, 2007, 10:02:28 am
aye.
11861  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: President Forever Policy Planks on: August 22, 2007, 09:47:50 pm
Let me re-do it.

//Abortion
Legal abortions in the first trimester for the mother's health. (C)

//Affirmative Action
[ ] Affirmative action programs only in certain cases. (CR)

//Balanced Budget
[ ] A Balanced Budget amendment to eliminate the deficit. (CR)

//Business Tax
[ ] Reduce business taxation. (CR)

//Campaign Finance Reform
[ ] Elections are rigged for the two parties - we need major reform! (L)

//Ecology
[ ] Good environmental policies are good economic policies. (CL)

//Education
[ ] Lower-income school vouchers, increase federal funding. (C)

//Free Trade
[ ] Most markets should be open. (CR)

//Gun Control
[ ] Guns control is a state issue. (C)

//Same-Sex Marriage
[ ] Same-sex marriage, even if not in name. (CL)

//Immigration
[ ] Immigration is great, illegal immigrants granted amnesty. (L)

//Military Funding
[ ] We should decrease military funding. (CL)

//Military Intervention
[ ] Military intervention is another way of saying 'empire building'. (L)

//Personal Tax
[ ] Reduce income tax for lower- and middle-class tax brackets. (C)

//Public Health Care
[ ] Universal health care, whether public or private. (CL)

//Renewable Energy
[ ] Renewable energy all the way! (L)

//Social Security
[ ] Let workers privately invest some of their social security payments. (CR)

//Terrorism
[ ] We need to fight the cause of terrorism, economic and social injustice. (CL)
11862  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Counties you have been to that no other Atlasian has on: August 22, 2007, 09:40:45 pm
In Georgia, I'll list Baldwin, Ben Hill, Burke, Colquitt, Dougherty, Glascock, Hancock, Irwin, Jefferson, Johnson, Putnam, Telfair, Worth (and possibly Screven save for those old enough to have traveled before I-95).

Baldwin- I've been to Millidgeville several times.
Dougherty- I went to Albany once when I was young, I think.
Johnson- I've got an uncle in Wrightsville.
Putnam- I travel through whenever I go to my grandparents.
Telfair- I've got cousins in McRae. In addition, we pass through Telfair on the route my family usually takes to the beach.

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I've been to every South Carolina county, but I'll only list Saluda, since that's the one I consider least likely for people to have visited, as it's off the Interstate and has nothing touristy there.

I've passed through once, taking US 378 to Colombia.

Ive been to all of the counties in Florida.  There has to be one that nobody's been to, maybe Alachua?

I actually just got home from a trip to Gainesville.


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I don't know where all in the state Clay and Dibble have travelled, but I'll guess Gilmer, Murray, Oconee, Oglethorpe, Walton and Wheeler.
11863  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Belief-O-Matic on: August 22, 2007, 09:05:58 pm
1.  Unitarian Universalism (100%) 
2.  Liberal Quakers (93%) 
3.  Theravada Buddhism (84%) 
4.  Secular Humanism (84%) 
5.  Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (80%) 
11864  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Question for universal health care advocates on: August 22, 2007, 08:51:57 pm
With government running healthcare, there is no competition.  Competition drives down costs.

You do know that Canadians pay less, per person, for healthcare, right?
11865  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: August '07 Election Prediction Competition on: August 19, 2007, 10:37:01 am
District 1
Verily

District 2
Mr. Moderate

District 3
afleitch

District 4
BrandonH

District 5
Ebowed

Tiebreak
PBrunsel
11866  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: draft gporter 4 prez in straw poll on: August 19, 2007, 10:24:54 am
X Bacon King.
11867  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Should I challenge Keystone Phil for the Northeast Regional Senate Seat? on: August 18, 2007, 11:08:27 pm
Competition is always good. I, for example, am currently running for the senate even though it's quite likely I won't win. However, it does provide a second option to the district four voters, which is the real reason I'm running.

Though it would be awesome to be back in the Senate. Grin
11868  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: Huckabee likes Ron Paul on: August 18, 2007, 10:56:26 pm
Dude, Colbert is awesome.
11869  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Which of the two preceding posters is more likely to make a gaffe during a... on: August 18, 2007, 10:27:36 pm
flynn.
11870  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Question for universal health care advocates on: August 18, 2007, 10:19:17 pm
Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't Canadians choose to pay for immediate elective surgeries and such in the private sector, rather than waiting on the government lists?
11871  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Emirates News District 4 Senatorial Debate on: August 18, 2007, 07:06:40 pm
Yes. If we're going to have laws against discrimination, it only makes sense to extend these laws to discrimination based on sexual preference.
11872  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Which of the two preceding posters is more likely to make a gaffe during a... on: August 17, 2007, 02:51:37 pm
jdb. though i'd reckon that both would be at least somewhat prone.
11873  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: 77% of Americans approve of interracial marriage on: August 17, 2007, 02:48:34 pm
Hmmm, just 77%. I would have thought that number would have been higher.

^^ I concur.
11874  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of the preceding poster's first post on: August 17, 2007, 02:38:38 pm
(skip) actually, blue was the avatar of each person who had already posted in that thread.
11875  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of the preceding poster's first post on: August 17, 2007, 02:32:35 pm
an interesting post, actually.


has to do with this thread.
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