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11851  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Actual Amendment to the National Energy Act (Amendment at Vote) on: October 07, 2008, 07:06:03 pm
What does Clause 2 do?

Lol, Xahar, this was your bill...
11852  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Welfare Reform (Placeholder) Act (Debate Open) on: October 07, 2008, 07:04:56 pm
Eagerly awaiting the finished project.
11853  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Post random maps here on: October 07, 2008, 06:54:21 pm
I actually really liked those maps, States, just had no idea of a guess before.
11854  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Past Election What-ifs (US) / Re: 1992 - Richard Shelby vs. Arlen Specter on: October 07, 2008, 06:51:00 pm
To really understand how this hypothetical would turn out you'd need to draw the line as to whether a given state votes on partisan grounds and/or ideological grounds. That is, the difference between a "conservative state" and a "Republican state" (or Democratic/liberal)

In this elections you'd see conservatives + partisan Dems for Shelby and liberals + partisan GOPers for Specter. An electoral map would be quite messy.
11855  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: Dueling Pair of ads today gets rough. What do y'all think? on: October 07, 2008, 06:34:57 pm
I love this new atmosphere of positive politics that these two wonderful candidates have brought with them!

I do remember when this was initially shaping up to be a positive campaign Sad
11856  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: West Virginia on: October 07, 2008, 06:28:56 pm
oh yes we do love ourselves some diversity

but west virginians lack diversity

because all they do is have sex with their daughters and sisters and cousins

which is not diverse

Stereotype much?

Simply not true.   Incest is illegal in West Virginia.  But you can marry your first cousin in "progressive" states like California, Massachusetts and New York.  But not West Virginia.  Go figure.

That's because allowing first cousin marriage is the more progressive position. Not starting that debate though, because its not something I really care about either way and it's not really anything relevant to this thread at all. Smiley
11857  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: Obama destroys combined RNC/McCain on airwaves, RNC to spend in ME, NC, FL, +IN on: October 07, 2008, 04:32:44 pm
Debunked?  By whom?

You have to agree to the following when you donate to the Obama campaign, so no. And he never promised to take federal funding. Stop being a bitter.

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   1.  I am a United States citizen or a lawfully-admitted permanent resident.
   2. I am at least 16 years old.
   3. This contribution is not made from the general treasury funds of a corporation, labor organization or national bank.
   4. This contribution is not made from the funds of a political action committee.
   5. This contribution is not made from the treasury of an entity or person who is a federal contractor.
   6. This contribution is not made from the funds of an individual registered as a federal lobbyist or a foreign agent, or an entity that is a federally registered lobbying firm or foreign agent.
   7. The funds I am donating are not being provided to me by another person or entity for the purpose of making this contribution.
11858  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Post A Picture of Yourself Thread VIII on: October 07, 2008, 04:27:17 pm
Is that your dorm room? It looks like twice as big as mine Sad
11859  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Dirty South Initiative Proposals and Debate on: October 07, 2008, 04:21:39 pm
How about this one?

11860  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: Obama, by himself, *dominating* combined RNC/McCain efforts on ad spending on: October 07, 2008, 04:16:58 pm
lol, talking about spinning. Are you just going to ignore how your line about "foreigners giving money to Obama" was debunked?
11861  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Forum names and the way YOU see them? on: October 07, 2008, 03:55:27 pm
Some more.

opebo: Oh-pee-boh
hughento: hew-gent-oh (with a G as in guard)
Xahar (seriously this time): Zah-har
11862  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / West Virginia on: October 07, 2008, 03:18:29 pm
Closest McCain state right now on the fivethirtyeight projection thing.

Is either campaign applying any effort here at all? I've never thought of WV as a possible Obama state, but what would it take for it to flip over?
11863  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Confirmation Hearing: Hashemite (Secretary of External Affairs) on: October 07, 2008, 03:14:29 pm
Good enough for me. Smiley
11864  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Dirty South Initiative Proposals and Debate on: October 07, 2008, 03:09:54 pm
You mean a CFO or something? The Governor is already the chief executive.
11865  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: Obama leaked U.S. military secrets to Al-Qaeda on: October 07, 2008, 03:03:32 pm
Would have been funny as a rickroll. Well, nevermind, we had that ysterday.
11866  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Actual Amendment to the National Energy Act (Amendment at Vote) on: October 07, 2008, 02:36:16 pm
aye
11867  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Forum names and the way YOU see them? on: October 07, 2008, 02:34:16 pm
How do you read or pronounce certain forum names?

I know H.A.A.R.P is prolly pronounced letter by letter, but I just call him "Harp". GM3PRP I say as either "GM3" or "GM3PRO".
Somewhere in an obstinate corner in the back of my mind, I Like Verin is still Eelie Kev'rin, as I read it.
^^^^^
These both apply for me. Also,

MODU= moh-dyoo
jmfcst= jamfest
phknrocket1k = fernrocket
Xahar = chode
11868  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: If McCain doesn't win tonight, is it over? on: October 07, 2008, 02:21:40 pm
The problem is...McCain is more "real" than Obama. Obama has a perfect tall stance, a deep booming voice, and that instantly off-sets points, ala Kerry-Bush debate 2004.

Huh?

Obama's voice could hardly be described as "booming"; in fact, his voice is actually kind of soft.

Also, you can't make any remarks about height comparisons in 2004 because the Bush campaign forced them to angle the cameras and/or let Bush stand on a box so that they appeared to be the same height at all times.
11869  Election Archive / 2008 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: PA: Survey USA: Obama up 15 in PA on: October 07, 2008, 01:20:28 pm
McCain loses 21% of Republicans? Yeah right. Plus exit polls had the state as D+2, this D+11 party ID doesn't pass the smell test.

I wouldn't be so sure about it:

In 2004, Democrats had a 7% registration advantage and the exit polls showed a 2% advantage for them.

In 2006, Democrats also had a 7% registration advantage in PA, and exit polls showed them with a 5% lead.

In 2008, the registraion advantage grew to 14% ...

So, if the additional 7% are added to the 2006 numbers, what is the result ?

And how many of them are fake registrations by ACORN in inner city Philadelphia? In many Philly neighborhoods there are more registered voters than acutal people living there, just to let you in on a little secret.

lol proof?
11870  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: Sarah Palin for VP on: October 07, 2008, 01:17:28 pm
Godly foresight on agcatter's part!
11871  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Post A Picture of Yourself Thread VIII on: October 07, 2008, 01:10:00 pm
jamespol doesn't think I'm cute Cry
11872  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Only 26% of Americans trust C-SPAN to provide accurate reporting on: October 07, 2008, 01:07:52 pm
Well... C-Span is controlled and edited by congress. I sure as  don't trust the congressmen and women, or their staffers to tell me what they're up to. Come on.

Completely, utterly incorrect. C-SPAN is directly managed by the National Cable Satellite Corporation, which is controlled by the appointees of cable companies. There is no government oversight at all.
11873  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Post A Picture of Yourself Thread VIII on: October 07, 2008, 12:53:23 pm
She is, I guess you could say, my lady-friend. There's something there. Just not "official."
11874  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: Controversial letter in my local paper on: October 07, 2008, 12:47:37 pm
The only relevance that this piece has to me is that kind of shows how much stricter the media's been with Obama. Reportings like the "Obama went to an Muslim daycare" or "Can a smoker be president?" are just as irrelevant as "McCain crashed his plane five times" and "he has a hundred good luck charms!"
11875  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: McCain already running internet ads claiming he won tonight's debate on: October 07, 2008, 12:16:14 pm
Okay, so far the McCain campaign has fcked up online ads about both of the debates. Think they'll do it again today?

Tongue
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