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11851  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Space on: January 14, 2009, 09:46:02 am
Or George W. Bush after Florida was called for Al Gore.

So you're saying that hypothetically, if I want to live forever alls I have to do is get the supreme court on my side? Awesome.
11852  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Socially, which Christian denominations are the most liberal and conservative? on: January 14, 2009, 09:42:27 am
I'm not an expert on the various denominations, but from personal experience here is my list:

Liberal

Quaker
UCC
ELCA
PCUSA
Methodist
LCMS
Roman Catholic
LDS
Baptist
WELS
Jehovah's whiteness

Conservative

Not enough exposure to other branches.

My Lutheran additions put in.

Based on my experiences with the Presbyterian Church (PCUSA) it'd probably go somewhere between ECLA and Roman Catholic. Here, I put it where I think it best fits.
11853  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Rank the Freshmen Senators by.... on: January 14, 2009, 09:38:59 am
Most Likely


Mark Udall(D-CO)
Jeff Merkley(D-OR)
Mark Begich(D-AK)
Mike Johanns(R-NE)
Kay Hagan(D-NC)
Mark Warner(D-VA)
Al Franken(D-MN)
Tom Udall(D-NM)
Jeanne Shaheen(D-NH)


Least Likely



(based off of nothing really in particular except gut instinct)
11854  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Tennessee: Williams elected speaker in upset on: January 14, 2009, 09:17:34 am
What I want to know is... how the hell do you pronounce "Naifeh"?

NAY-feh would be my guess.
11855  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Gubernatorial/Statewide Elections / Re: Tennessee: Williams elected speaker in upset on: January 14, 2009, 12:52:18 am
Sounds like probably the Dems are just hurting themselves in the long run.
11856  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Secretary-General Hillary Clinton? on: January 14, 2009, 12:24:41 am
My two cents in the Purple/Phil debate here-

experience is neccesary in an appointment to a much greater extent than for someone running for election, as the campaign itself basically serves as an extended vetting process that an appointment lacks. See Lunar's opinion on Caroline Kennedy, for example.

I've never understood this argument. How does vetting someone give them experience?

It doesn't; it serves as a substitute. A campaign shows how good the candidate is at running something, how they handle pressure, how stable their ideology is, etc. Kind of, but not exactly, the sorts of reasons people look at someone's past experiences.
11857  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: New semester, new thread on: January 14, 2009, 12:20:07 am
Monday, Wednesday, Friday:

POLC-332 Poverty & Development
ECON 101 Microeconomics
POLC-335 Latin American Governments

Tuesday, Thursday:

IDEV-101 Intro to Development
COLQ-401 Rumba to Reggueton


Also, I'll be taking a low level Spanish class once I figure out which level exactly to be placed in.

VERY IMPORTANT UPDAET.

Instead of the Spanish class I'm taking Latin American Studies II (LAST 102) on tuesdays.
11858  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Will Hillary Clinton seek the Democratic Presidential nomination in 2016? on: January 14, 2009, 12:08:04 am
The Democratic nominee in 2016 will actually be Rebecca Otto, of course.

source:

2016-2024: Rebecca Otto
2024-2032: Mike Fleck
2032-2036: Michael Naso, Jr.
11859  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Secretary-General Hillary Clinton? on: January 13, 2009, 11:57:26 pm
My two cents in the Purple/Phil debate here-

experience is neccesary in an appointment to a much greater extent than for someone running for election, as the campaign itself basically serves as an extended vetting process that an appointment lacks. See Lunar's opinion on Caroline Kennedy, for example, that he'd love to support her in the case of a special election but can't stand to have her just appointed to the Senate.
11860  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Re: Liberalitarian 3-way cage match: Mint! vs Einzige vs FezzyFestoon on: January 13, 2009, 11:14:03 pm
Fezzy, though Mint's alright though. Einzige is mostly just caustic and annoying.
11861  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: Treasury Secretary: Tim Geithner on: January 13, 2009, 07:17:49 pm
Pretty much expected. Clever timing on the announcement though. Now the endangered banks have 60-70 hours to figure out a game plan for next week.

huh?

As president of the New York Federal Reserve Bank since Oct 2003, it was Tim Geithner's job to regulate the banks, and we can see how that went.  Then, in mid Sept 2008, it was HIS decision to let Lehman fail even though it was too big to fail without bringing down the whole banking system.

And now this guy is going to be Treasury Secretary?!

ooops!  Now it comes out that Geithner failed to pay taxes totally $34k from 2001 thru 2004, and has recently had to pay other sums of unpaid taxes immediately prior to his nomination...and this guy is going to run the Treasury?!

D:

how does someone get away with not paying their taxes when they're the head of a freakin' regional fed bank?



edit. okay, it was while he was working for the IMF, he was technically self-employed somehow, so he had to pay payroll taxes on himself both as an employee and employer (which seems kind of silly- I didn't know people had to do that) but he didn't do both. Apparently as soon as the IRS pointed it out he paid them back with interest.

So, not quite as bad as it first sounded. Possibly even a misunderstanding?

source:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123187503629378119.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
Quote
The second issue involved taxes due while Mr. Geithner worked for the International Monetary Fund between 2001 and 2004. As an employee, Mr. Geithner was technically considered self-employed and was required to pay Social Security and Medicare taxes for himself as both an employer and an employee.

He apparently failed to do so, resulting in Internal Revenue Service audits his last two years at the IMF. As soon as the IRS brought the issue to his attention, he paid the taxes with interest, these people said.
11862  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Peter Schiff to Challenge Chris Dodd? on: January 13, 2009, 03:36:32 pm
oh noes, rally the dodd squad!
11863  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Burris in 2016? on: January 13, 2009, 03:27:23 pm
I'm probably one of the few people who likes Burris.  He doesn't give me the impression that he's crazy or eccentric.  It was odd that he accepted Blago's offer, but he now looks like the smartest guy in Illinois.  If Reid gives him some good assignments and he stays away from divisive talk about race like he has, he has a good chance of winning in '10.

Agree. Watching him on CSPAN gave me a pretty favorable impression.
11864  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Poster who is ideological opposite of the previous poster. on: January 13, 2009, 03:19:27 pm
Inks
11865  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Most electable 2012 Republican? on: January 13, 2009, 03:15:21 pm
Nope. Jindal is the best candidate for backwoods fundies.

Ideologically, sure. But stuck with a choice between a black and a Punjab, they aren't going to turn out and Jindal will lose.

Not saying this is quite a direct comparison, but Louisiana does have the Punjab as its governor even though they voted against the black.
11866  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Re: Make an Electoral Map of an election between three preceding posters on: January 13, 2009, 02:22:23 pm


Happy Warrior: 246 EVs
Mike Naso 184 EVs
NiK 108 Evs
11867  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Poster who is ideological opposite of the previous poster. on: January 13, 2009, 02:14:31 pm
DWTL
11868  Election Archive / 2012 Elections / Re: Most electable 2012 Republican? on: January 13, 2009, 12:52:57 pm
I'm not sure he's the most electable on this list, but don't just quickly write off Jindal, guys. He's intelligent and a capable leader; if his organizational talent displays itself in his (hypothetical) presidential campaign then he could give Obama a run for his money.
11869  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Is opebo the best poster you have ever met on any message board ever? on: January 13, 2009, 03:52:34 am
Not recognizing BRTD's new username, when I first saw this thread I assumed someone was making a satiric BRTD-esque poll.
11870  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Televised government on: January 13, 2009, 03:50:44 am
There's CSPAN of course. Georgia Legislative Network airs online, I doubt it but it might be on public tv or something. I think the county government's meetings air on local public access. And, I don't live in a city.

As for college, I have no idea about the status of Louisiana or New Orleans parish/city.
11871  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: Breaking News! Barack Obama asks Mitt Romney to meet with him in DC! on: January 13, 2009, 01:01:04 am
You stole this from someone else
11872  Forum Community / Forum Community Election Match-ups / Re: Make an Electoral Map of an election between three preceding posters on: January 12, 2009, 04:29:54 pm


Franzl: 277 EVs
Naso: 260 EVs
Hashemite: 1 EV

Although votesplitting between Franzl and Hashemite allows Naso to win several close states with a plurality, it isn't enough for him to win. Although Hashemite mostly serves as a spoiler, upstate Maine goes for him since they're practically Canada anyway.
11873  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Most important or significant year of the decade? (Part Two) on: January 12, 2009, 04:18:21 pm
2007- Tweed's perspective is the only one that actually exists.
11874  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: New semester, new thread on: January 12, 2009, 04:05:09 pm
Monday, Wednesday, Friday:

POLC-332 Poverty & Development
ECON 101 Microeconomics
POLC-335 Latin American Governments

Tuesday, Thursday:

IDEV-101 Intro to Development
COLQ-401 Rumba to Reggueton


Also, I'll be taking a low level Spanish class once I figure out which level exactly to be placed in.
11875  Election Archive / 2008 Senatorial Election Polls / Re: NH-2010/ARG: Sen. Gregg (R) leads Hodes by 7, Shea-Porter by 19 on: January 12, 2009, 12:26:53 pm
Note, everyone, the normal caveat that Alternate Reality Group polls usually mean absolutely nothing. Grin
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