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11901  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: Please sell Obama to me on: October 08, 2008, 12:26:55 pm
First off, I'm not going to try to "sell you" on Obama. Your vote is yours to make. I'm just going to argue here why I support the guy and maybe that will help you come to your own understanding about whether you like him or not. Either way, best of luck.

Also, apologies in advance for any sort of incoherency. I just woke up from my nap Smiley

First of all, why is he qualified to be President?  What has he done other than be a mostly absentee first-term senator?  He's a man of pretty words but very little action.

In my eyes, the single most important qualification to the presidency is not what's on a candidate's resume but is rather his/her ability to lead. Look at America's last successful president who was a charismatic yet inexperienced guy from Illinois: Abe Lincoln. Lincoln, though lacking in many of the standard "qualifications", was one of the strongest leader's America's ever had. Obama is similar in that his ability to communicate with the American public is a strong leadership asset for a president to have and it can honestly help the country a great deal when the president's able to make that link with the American people.

How is he going to balance our budget?  I've heard nothing from him but a litany of things he wants to spend money on, while cutting the taxes of the "middle class."

He proposes to gain new revenue sources by letting the Bush tax cuts expire (IIRC), ending the financial blackhole of Iraq, and removing loopholes from the corporate tax structure.

Why is his decades-long involvement in a radical church that preached racial hatred no big deal?  Why is his friendship with domestic terrorists no big deal?

The "racial hatred" spoken by Wright was, in my understanding, two/three singular events where he got a bit excited on the pulpit. For the most part he was known as a kind man with a generally positive message. If that means anything to you.

I wouldn't really say he had any sort of serious association with Ayers; working together on a philanthropy board isn't exactly a "tie to terrorism." Besides, Obama was only six years old when Ayers was doing his stuff.

These two connections have been heavily overstated by the sensationalist media and IMO aren't really that relevant at all.


That's just my two cents anyway. Good luck making up your mind.
11902  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Ethical Trade Policy Bill (At Final Vote) on: October 08, 2008, 11:25:19 am
Nay. I like the second section but I don't think we should be unilaterally withdrawing from these free trade bills. I think the requirements specified in their respective third sections are sufficient and hopefully with a more active SOEA we can hold these nations under scrutiny and then take the proper action from there.
11903  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Actual Amendment to the National Energy Act (Amendment at Vote) on: October 08, 2008, 11:11:28 am
Change to nay too. It would appear I'm not the only one who got confused by the removal of a removal. Tongue
11904  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Post A Picture of Yourself Thread VIII on: October 08, 2008, 08:42:14 am
lol Hassan, I like the American fish shirt.
11905  Election Archive / 2008 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: Rasmussen Tracking Poll [Obama vs McCain] on: October 08, 2008, 08:36:53 am
Wednesday - October 8, 2008:

Obama - 51% (-1)
McCain - 45% (+1)

at this rate, the race will be tied by saturday! Tongue
11906  Election Archive / 2008 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: PA: Survey USA: Obama up 15 in PA on: October 08, 2008, 12:33:06 am
McCain loses 21% of Republicans? Yeah right. Plus exit polls had the state as D+2, this D+11 party ID doesn't pass the smell test.

I wouldn't be so sure about it:

In 2004, Democrats had a 7% registration advantage and the exit polls showed a 2% advantage for them.

In 2006, Democrats also had a 7% registration advantage in PA, and exit polls showed them with a 5% lead.

In 2008, the registraion advantage grew to 14% ...

So, if the additional 7% are added to the 2006 numbers, what is the result ?

And how many of them are fake registrations by ACORN in inner city Philadelphia? In many Philly neighborhoods there are more registered voters than acutal people living there, just to let you in on a little secret.

lol proof?

Dude, it's true. We have a reputation for that type of nonsense.

I've actually not heard of that. I know people sometimes make fraud allegations about New Mexico, Wisconsin, etc, but this is the first time I've actually heard about it in Philly specifically. I was critical with Rowan because it sounded like something he was just pulling out his arse.
11907  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Could Barkley actually win in MN? on: October 08, 2008, 12:23:32 am
Ugh. Barkley is such a joke. I'd vote for Bush for Senate over him. But he may well win.

What's so bad about him? - I ask because I legimately am entirely uninformed on the guy.
11908  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: what-if: Obama vs Huckabee on: October 07, 2008, 11:54:24 pm
He'd be better than McCain on the economy, probably. Not really saying much.
11909  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: Creepier Mccain moment in debate? on: October 07, 2008, 11:18:51 pm
Write-in: The part where he asked "how much is this fine?"
11910  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Dirty South Initiative Proposals and Debate on: October 07, 2008, 07:43:37 pm
Like it. We don't want it too similar to the SC flag because then people would get them confused.
11911  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Who, in politics, isn't intelligent? on: October 07, 2008, 07:17:15 pm
11912  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Actual Amendment to the National Energy Act (Amendment at Vote) on: October 07, 2008, 07:06:03 pm
What does Clause 2 do?

Lol, Xahar, this was your bill...
11913  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Welfare Reform (Placeholder) Act (Debate Open) on: October 07, 2008, 07:04:56 pm
Eagerly awaiting the finished project.
11914  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Election What-ifs? / Re: Post random maps here on: October 07, 2008, 06:54:21 pm
I actually really liked those maps, States, just had no idea of a guess before.
11915  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Past Election What-ifs (US) / Re: 1992 - Richard Shelby vs. Arlen Specter on: October 07, 2008, 06:51:00 pm
To really understand how this hypothetical would turn out you'd need to draw the line as to whether a given state votes on partisan grounds and/or ideological grounds. That is, the difference between a "conservative state" and a "Republican state" (or Democratic/liberal)

In this elections you'd see conservatives + partisan Dems for Shelby and liberals + partisan GOPers for Specter. An electoral map would be quite messy.
11916  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: Dueling Pair of ads today gets rough. What do y'all think? on: October 07, 2008, 06:34:57 pm
I love this new atmosphere of positive politics that these two wonderful candidates have brought with them!

I do remember when this was initially shaping up to be a positive campaign Sad
11917  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: West Virginia on: October 07, 2008, 06:28:56 pm
oh yes we do love ourselves some diversity

but west virginians lack diversity

because all they do is have sex with their daughters and sisters and cousins

which is not diverse

Stereotype much?

Simply not true.   Incest is illegal in West Virginia.  But you can marry your first cousin in "progressive" states like California, Massachusetts and New York.  But not West Virginia.  Go figure.

That's because allowing first cousin marriage is the more progressive position. Not starting that debate though, because its not something I really care about either way and it's not really anything relevant to this thread at all. Smiley
11918  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: Obama destroys combined RNC/McCain on airwaves, RNC to spend in ME, NC, FL, +IN on: October 07, 2008, 04:32:44 pm
Debunked?  By whom?

You have to agree to the following when you donate to the Obama campaign, so no. And he never promised to take federal funding. Stop being a bitter.

   1.  I am a United States citizen or a lawfully-admitted permanent resident.
   2. I am at least 16 years old.
   3. This contribution is not made from the general treasury funds of a corporation, labor organization or national bank.
   4. This contribution is not made from the funds of a political action committee.
   5. This contribution is not made from the treasury of an entity or person who is a federal contractor.
   6. This contribution is not made from the funds of an individual registered as a federal lobbyist or a foreign agent, or an entity that is a federally registered lobbying firm or foreign agent.
   7. The funds I am donating are not being provided to me by another person or entity for the purpose of making this contribution.
11919  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Post A Picture of Yourself Thread VIII on: October 07, 2008, 04:27:17 pm
Is that your dorm room? It looks like twice as big as mine Sad
11920  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Dirty South Initiative Proposals and Debate on: October 07, 2008, 04:21:39 pm
How about this one?

11921  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / Re: Obama, by himself, *dominating* combined RNC/McCain efforts on ad spending on: October 07, 2008, 04:16:58 pm
lol, talking about spinning. Are you just going to ignore how your line about "foreigners giving money to Obama" was debunked?
11922  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Forum names and the way YOU see them? on: October 07, 2008, 03:55:27 pm
Some more.

opebo: Oh-pee-boh
hughento: hew-gent-oh (with a G as in guard)
Xahar (seriously this time): Zah-har
11923  Election Archive / 2008 Elections / West Virginia on: October 07, 2008, 03:18:29 pm
Closest McCain state right now on the fivethirtyeight projection thing.

Is either campaign applying any effort here at all? I've never thought of WV as a possible Obama state, but what would it take for it to flip over?
11924  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Government / Re: Confirmation Hearing: Hashemite (Secretary of External Affairs) on: October 07, 2008, 03:14:29 pm
Good enough for me. Smiley
11925  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Atlas Fantasy Elections / Re: Dirty South Initiative Proposals and Debate on: October 07, 2008, 03:09:54 pm
You mean a CFO or something? The Governor is already the chief executive.
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