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1  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Hipsters vs. Yuppies? on: Today at 09:52:27 am
Yuppies have worked hard to have productive careers, so them. Hipsters is about style. Yawn.
2  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Are you gay? on: Today at 08:33:09 am
Yeah. I had this little journey from Q to B to G. I'm so glad that journey is over actually. It transformed my life, and made me so much happier and a more productive (and I would like to think, kinder) person.
3  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: YAF threaten to sue UC Berkeley in Ann Coulter First Amendment Case on: April 28, 2017, 01:30:23 pm
I'm locking this thread. This Nazi stuff needs to be lost.
4  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Are Trump voters ruining America for all of us? on: April 28, 2017, 11:24:28 am
Torie, just curious why you edited my original post saying it was a copyright violation?

I've seen other people post articles, and copy/paste it in their post, but not be edited for a copyright violation. What gives?

The posts that did that were probably not reported, and thus not noticed. Dave Leip set a standard that no more than 20% of so of an article may be copied and pasted, and if a long article, the percentage is lower, particularly if it copies and pastes the most salient bits. Copyright infringement is not allowed on this site. This site gets a lot of traffic, and Dave does not want to get into legal trouble. So please respect this rule. Thanks.
5  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: How Big is Your Metro Area? on: April 28, 2017, 11:04:12 am
I live in what is called a "micropolitan area," which comprises the entire county of Columbia, NY. That is a misnomer, since the county contains large swaths of rural areas, or unpopulated mountainous areas. More apropos is that other creature called an "urban cluster." The map of mine (quite elongated), is the Hudson, NY urban cluster, and it has 11,512 people per the 2010 census. It is probably around 11,000 people now. Columbia County in the 2010 census had around 63,000, closing in on 60,000 as time goes by. Given the large number of second homes in the area, the number of folks actually wandering around who frequent the place might be around 20% higher.

6  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Poll: Grade trump on his first 100 days in office on: April 28, 2017, 06:29:55 am
About as expected ... basically a train wreck. I give him a D rather than an F in recognition that he backs off some from his most insane ideas.  If his actions were co-extensive with what comes out of his mouth (before he backs off some), it would be an F-.
7  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Do you live in a bubble? on: April 27, 2017, 11:32:59 am
25 points. I hitchhiked (in Europe for the romance of it all), ridden on a Greyhound Bus, and live in a small town. Oh, and I knew what Branson was. Smiley
8  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Would you ever become a member of a nudist resort? on: April 27, 2017, 11:25:58 am
A member? Heavens no. Certain gay resorts are the functional equivalent of a nudist camp, but I digress.
9  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Oregon Man Fined $500 for Practicing Engineering Without a License on: April 27, 2017, 06:27:20 am
Isn't the problem here that he called himself an engineer when he was not licensed to be an engineer, as opposed to what he wrote or said?
10  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Which New Jersey municipality would the previous poster's ideology resemble? on: April 25, 2017, 11:35:23 am
Gloucester Township in Camden County, NJ. It swung hard to Trump, but is still Democratic. It's far far away from the ambiance of the hip latte liberal crowd.
11  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Would you rather live in Austria or Hudson, New York? on: April 25, 2017, 06:05:56 am
Both have a problem with nasty immigrants changing their culture.

How interesting. Please elaborate.
12  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Trump escalates trade war with Canada: imposes tariffs on Canadian milk, lumber on: April 24, 2017, 07:12:33 pm
How is legislation like this any different than pro-union legislation? It benefits workers in a particular industry the expense of consumers who bear higher costs.
How in any way are they similar.  Unless in the warped mind of Republicans trade wars are beneficial to Americans.

Tariffs raise the cost of goods or services. Unions to the extent they have the power to increase wages (they don't really except in highly oligopolistic industries, or monopolistic ones, the premier example of which is government), also increase the cost of goods or services. Just how much in either case is a subject of fierce debate (how much is a cost on capital and how much on the consumer?), but it is clearly more than zero or a de minimus amount.
13  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of "leftists" who think Le Pen is the lesser of two evils on: April 24, 2017, 07:08:25 pm
They're a populist sub-sprecies of "leftists" who have a hatred of the elites and the establishment that burns bright enough, that it "trumps" sometimes the value of civil liberties and diversity.
14  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Conjoined twins decide not to be separated on: April 24, 2017, 04:19:19 pm
You cannot copy and paste whole articles (20% of them max is the limit). And I am not sure copying images is OK either, but certainly it is not appropriate to copy a whole portfolio of them. I cut it down to one image. Please don't do it again. Next time instead of culling a post/article, I will just delete the whole thing, since this becomes labor intensive.
15  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Why Aren't Pennsylvania Politicians More Known? on: April 22, 2017, 11:53:03 am
PA does tend to elect hacks, but Toomey and Meehan and Dent are pretty high profile, and competent. So it is not uniformly dreary.
16  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Upshot: Supply-Side Economics, but for Liberals on: April 22, 2017, 11:44:42 am
The most compelling reason for vouchers for poor families is to give such families a choice, where their school system is a fail. If such systems start to lose students, and have empty seats, and teachers need to be fired, the internal resistance to reform will wane if for no reason other then their own survival. Teachers unions are toxic, because pay is based on seniority, rather than merit and performance, and incompetent teachers cannot be fired. In this environment, what we find is that "C" students tend to become teachers (many with marginal reading and writing skills), rather than "A" students. I find that totally unacceptable and disgusting. There is also this obsession about bricks and mortar, rather than about having talented personnel, that I find extremely irritating. Way back in the dark ages, I got a good education in Quonset huts build during WWII that were now used a classrooms. Discipline is a huge problem too, and it is hard to expel problem students.
17  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: Fremont Voting Booth: April 2017 Elections on: April 22, 2017, 11:01:42 am
ONE (1) to be elected.
[2] LongLiveRock of Colorado
Liberal Democracy Party - Labor Party
[1] TedBessell of California
Free Soil Party - Federalist Party
[ ] Write-in:
FIVE (5) to be elected.
[ ] Anthony1691 of California
Unaffiliated - Labor Party
[ ] Dr_Novella of California
Ecosocialist Party - Labor Party
[ ] evergreen of Washington
Ecosocialist Party - Uncultured Marxist Party of Atlasia
[1] RFayette of California
Unaffiliated - Atlas Conservative Party
[2] Roy Barnes 2010 of Washington
Democratic Alliance - Labor Party
[ ] Tirnam of California
Liberal Democracy Party - Labor Party
[   ] Write-in:
18  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Upshot: Supply-Side Economics, but for Liberals on: April 22, 2017, 10:56:58 am
The biggest challenge is the nexus between the social safety net (and yes, when it comes to kids, the case of it is particularly compelling not only because of efficacy, but as a matter of conscience), and the inducement for folks to work in those dead end minimum wage jobs. Locally, as the economy improves a bit, it is becoming difficult to fill those jobs, because the amount of additional take home income is so small as compared to what is available by not working (or working off the books), or because of substance abuse (which is now destroying the stability of large numbers of working class families).  The only way out of that box, is to improve people's skills, and the educational system that serves them, and far too many school districts in poorer zip codes still suck horribly. Thus we still turn out hordes of high school graduates that are functionally illiterate, and consigned to a lifetime of poverty or near poverty. I don't understand why all of this is tolerated.

Thanks for the links Virginia. That was most interesting.
19  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Voting Booth / Re: April 2017 House Election on: April 22, 2017, 10:42:40 am

[] Clyde1998 of Massachusetts
Labor Party

[4] Dereich of Colorado

[] drewmike87 of Wisconsin
Labor Party

[2] Leinad of Georgia
Federalist Party

[1] North Carolina Yankee of North Carolina
Federalist Party

[] OneJ_ of Mississippi
Labor Party

[5] Peebs of North Carolina
Labor Party

[3] Pessimistic Antineutrino of New Jersey
Federalist Party

[] Santander of Alabama
Atlas Conservative Party

[] simossad of Minnesota
Labor Party
20  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of this shirt on: April 22, 2017, 06:35:17 am
21  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: krazen on: April 20, 2017, 01:20:00 pm
It will bother me.  It will be more evidence that this place is biased against conservatives, and that political leanings are taken into account when banning posters.

Are you saying conservative mods and a conservative Modadmin are voting to ban other conservatives to purposefully persecute conservative users?

What conservative mods?  Blue Avatar doesn't equal conservative.

I'm saying the recent bans have traditionally been one way - banning conservative voices from this site.  There are plenty of users here with red avatars that are far more abusive and abrasive than Krazen or even Eharding, but they rarely get banned.  And, no, I'm not going to name names - as I think banning anyone should be exceedingly rare, regardless of their political views.

This may shock you, but on the thread where the Cave muses about the Atlasian problem children, red avatars in the dock are well represented. We also give out warnings privately that are not publicly disclosed. Finally, even more shocking, sometimes red avatar Mods go after red avatar problem children, and blue avatar Mods go after blue avatar problem children. The Cave is a complicated place I guess. Or maybe, it is more about trying to have a judicial temperament, and applying the TOS fairly and even handedly, Heck anything is possible.
22  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Beet on: April 20, 2017, 12:28:13 pm
He'd fit into Hudson perfectly.

I don't know what's worse, Tender hijacking every thread to talk about Austria or Torie doing the same in regard of Hudson Tongue

We need to see a Torie-Tender debate on some issue that has nothing to do with either, just to marvel at the creative roads they take to shoehorning in talk of Hudson and Austria respectively.

I'd kick Tender's ass in that contest honey.
23  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Beet on: April 20, 2017, 12:17:52 pm
Beet has a huge cock and huge balls.  Enormous.  Despite the fact that he's always predicting gloom and doom, I rather respect his opinions.  I don't often agree with them, but he's rational and thoughtful and, most of all, courageous enough to make bizarre and unpopular proposals

He'd fit into Hudson perfectly.
24  General Politics / Political Geography & Demographics / Re: What are the most over and under rated demographic trends today? on: April 20, 2017, 12:15:31 pm
Rising share of population that is non-religious or functionally non-religious. Our political culture does not incorporate this view yet but the numbers are getting quite high, especially among the young.

Adding to the mix, I read somewhere that 20% of millennials identify as LGBTQ. We're taking over! Tongue
25  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Source: Trumpcare is back an worse then ever on: April 20, 2017, 12:13:41 pm
Apparently an amendment called "MacArthur Amendment" that has won 18-20 new votes from the Freedom Caucus. So what about this amendment is bad well the idea is high risk pools for people with preexisting conditions. For example people with lung cancer are going to pay an extra 73k a year. http://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/20/conservative-republicans-reportedly-pleased-with-changes-to-health-care-proposal.html,  https://twitter.com/alexkotch/status/855068500406280192

Where does the 73K figure come from? I can't find it on the link. Assuming it is true, I think added into coverage mix should be an assisted suicide benefit, so when say one gets lung cancer, instead of going bankrupt, leaving your family bereft, you could just get an MD to inject you wish a massive dose of heroin, so you can fly high to heaven in style. Make sense?
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