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1  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Study: Marijuana use dangerous to young peoples' brains on: April 17, 2014, 02:29:28 pm
The study was of people from 18-25. That's interesting. I guess maybe if I had not smoked pot then, I would have been a justice of the Supreme Court or something. I am not challenging the study. It just doesn't comport with my personal experience really. During that time I got 3 advanced degrees.
2  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Do you like eating mushrooms? on: April 17, 2014, 02:23:49 pm
I love mushrooms.
3  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Torie's zoning variance hearing on: April 17, 2014, 07:52:12 am
Gibson said the board needed to determine if the application was complete. Member Geetie Cheddie said it was “one of the most complete applications we’ve received,” and the members unanimously declared it complete.

We all know Geetie Cheddie is in your pocket, Torie. Nicely done. On second thought, I'm not even sure "Geetie Cheddie" is a real name a real person would choose to continue having. It sounds like the name of some kind of sharp, crumbly cheddar in a foreign language. More of the geetie cheddie, monsieur? Surely this is an imposter you've planted to convince everyone else to grant you what you want. I suppose if you know the law and have the connections, the world is yours for the taking! ..Not that I think what you're doing is that bad, at all. Best of luck Wink

There is a large Bengali population in Hudson, both from Calcutta and environs and Bangledesh. The lady to whom you refer is from one of those places, and was clearly the sharpest tack in the drawer among the Board.
4  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Torie's zoning variance hearing on: April 17, 2014, 07:41:54 am
Is that the standard for an area variance or a use variance, or both?  In New York, the standards are very different, with an area variance being much easier to obtain, and a use variance next to impossible.
The standards you outlined will not work if the code does not comport with what is actually on the ground. For New York, the Sasso v Osgood case is the way out of the box when that obtains. 
5  Forum Community / Forum Community / Torie's zoning variance hearing on: April 17, 2014, 06:41:54 am
Last night was phase 1. In a month is phase two, when there is a public hearing, and then a vote. There is a lot of confusion about what the zoning code means and says, and if applied literally, almost everything proposed to be built would require a variance. One of the collateral effects of all of this contretemps, is that in about two or three months, I suspect the code will be totally rewritten. I am about half way through doing just that. It is like writing a very complex contract. I will get my variance irrespective, but not everyone can cope for this Byzantine maze the way I can, and push just the right legal buttons, due to being used to doing just that for 35 years.

Not mentioned in the article, is that I handed out a case from New York's highest court, that made clear, that the test is really about balancing benefits to the applicant, and detriments to the neighborhood, and not the size of the variance requested per se. Three other applicants last week bit the dust, in substantial part perhaps because their attorneys did not bring up that case, and the city is getting less than stellar legal advice - to put it mildly. I'm here to help them with some of this. And we are going to get the job done - trust me. Smiley
6  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Petition to free King on: April 15, 2014, 12:28:32 pm
You know, since each and every Mod, including myself, wants the Mod Review to end, and in fact, most of us didn't want it to happen in the first instance, but it simply did because the point count slipped over 50, and given that we as Mods have no power to turn it off before requisite 5 days in the cooler, I think it perfectly appropriate and right to sign this petition, and do so with pleasure. Dave, turn it off!  Thanks bro.

x Torie
7  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: SurveyUSA: Minnesota voters strongly opposed to recreational marijuana on: April 15, 2014, 06:45:59 am
State full of white people doesn't see the need to repeal laws that are only enforced against brown people, more at eleven.

Not the most "responsible" comment ever written, but nevertheless your post made me laugh. Smiley
8  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: For all of you who have living parents... on: April 15, 2014, 12:07:31 am
Tell them you love them at least one time tomorrow. I never met my father, I was estranged from my son for years...you never know what the last thing you will say to a loved on is- let it be"I love you"



That is by the far the best advice that has ever been posted on this forum, or will ever be posted on this forum. I hope the kids on this forum, read it, and remember it.

God the things I wish I had told my Dad about what I thought of him, in the way I do now after he cannot take cognizance of it, because I just didn't have the courage to do it, in the sense that that I thought it would seem too saccharine, or some BS (kind of some reticent upper middle class WASP syndrome, long since I would like to think exorcised from my soul). That was just so wrong. Yes, it is true, that my Dad knew I adored him (mostly by deed I think rather than words), but still.
9  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: In what decade were your parents born? on: April 14, 2014, 11:42:49 pm
What do you think vis a vis this old fossil? And my Dad sired me at age 45, so he was born in 1906. I doubt anyone on the Forum has a father born earlier. Smiley My trophy second wife mother, his second marriage, after his first wife died after wasting away for 10 years in a tuberculosis sanatorium (whom he visited most days over those 10 years (and had no sex over that period as a virile young man), and to pass the time, they wrote True Confessions stories together which were published in that Mag to pass the time), was born in 1920. I think my Dad was close to the most amazing man on Earth really. I have never meant anyone else remotely like him, and certainly no one more estimable (he is still my functional equivalent of a personal God), ever.
Torie... I feel the same about my father even though I never got the chance to meet him

Tell your story, Clarence. Fantastic parents, fantastic human beings, deserve mention of their stories!
I call him Clarence- pronounced "Big Clarence" while I spell my name with a lower case in honor of him... he was a sailor and a hero who died fighting for me at Guadalcanal

Wow. That is all I can say.
10  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: In what decade were your parents born? on: April 14, 2014, 11:37:59 pm
What do you think vis a vis this old fossil? And my Dad sired me at age 45, so he was born in 1906. I doubt anyone on the Forum has a father born earlier. Smiley My trophy second wife mother, his second marriage, after his first wife died after wasting away for 10 years in a tuberculosis sanatorium (whom he visited most days over those 10 years (and had no sex over that period as a virile young man), and to pass the time, they wrote True Confessions stories together which were published in that Mag to pass the time), was born in 1920. I think my Dad was close to the most amazing man on Earth really. I have never meant anyone else remotely like him, and certainly no one more estimable (he is still my functional equivalent of a personal God), ever.
Torie... I feel the same about my father even though I never got the chance to meet him

Tell your story, Clarence. Fantastic parents, fantastic human beings, deserve mention of their stories!
11  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: In what decade were your parents born? on: April 14, 2014, 11:29:55 pm
What do you think vis a vis this old fossil? And my Dad sired me at age 45, so he was born in 1906. I doubt anyone on the Forum has a father born earlier. Smiley My trophy second wife mother, his second marriage, after his first wife died after wasting away for 10 years in a tuberculosis sanatorium (whom he visited most days over those 10 years (and had no sex over that period as a virile young man), and to pass the time, they wrote True Confessions stories together which were published in that Mag to pass the time), was born in 1920. I think my Dad was close to the most amazing man on Earth really. I have never meant anyone else remotely like him, and certainly no one more estimable (he is still my functional equivalent of a personal God), ever.

And then about the time I was born, my mother got a rare eye disease, the slowly blinded her over the ensuing 15 years, such that she could not read. Tough cards my Dad was dealt. He dealt with it all with courage and honor and loyalty. Thus he for those reasons, among so many others,  is God to me. All I can do is endeavor to get closer to his high standards of personal conduct, before I hit the bucket, and revert to dust, and am forgotten.
12  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Petition to free King on: April 13, 2014, 08:21:08 pm
But hey, being drunk is not a get out of jail free card.

Stop being a lawyer for a moment and just be human!

That would be like asking me to stop being gay. It's hard wiring man, an irresistible impulse if you will, and if you saw that great movie with Jimmy Stewart as the criminal defense lawyer (he typically spent his days fishing, but finally landed himself a client), with George C. Scott as the prosecutor, the rabbit Jimmy pulled out of the hat for his client accused of murder, was the defense of irresistible impulse. (Of course, it turned out that Jimmy was stiffed on is legal fees, when his found not guilty client split immediately after being found not guilty.) There actually was a case to that effect in Michigan, and the screen play for that movie, or the book from which it sprang, was written by a Michigan judge. So I rest my case. I have my defense. Thanks. Smiley
13  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update Season XIV: The new chapter on: April 13, 2014, 08:11:49 pm
Yes, I still don't get why Jeff  didn't keep going to get his Civil certificate while looking for a job. One can walk and chew gum at the same time. I would want to do it just out of intellectual curiosity, and self esteem myself, and then go on to architectural, which is where the real psychic income would be for me. It's good sometimes to have a voracious appetite for knowledge, sometimes even almost to an obsessive extent, particularly if such obsession has the potential to be remunerative. But that is just me I guess.
14  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Post something that would annoy the preceding poster. on: April 13, 2014, 08:03:58 pm
Plea bargaining in criminal cases is out of control because prosecutors are lazy asses, who in general are incompetent to try cases anyway. Tongue

Actually, somebody told me in Columbia County, New York, almost no criminal cases go to trial. They are all plea bargained away, which may be a good thing, since the judges have a reputation of being political hacks, of questionable ethics, some of whom allegedly are not even lawyers. That seems facially noisome to me. You ever done a trial Badger?  Tongue

Oh, and did I ever tell you how the institution of government employed prosecutors in the US came into being? Hint: It started in A, then went to B, and then to C, and then to D, and then to E, with E being the US. Smiley
15  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Post something that would please the previous poster. on: April 13, 2014, 05:25:42 pm
I think for those blessed with the gift of a leap of faith into matters metaphysical, endeavoring to seek ways to give their religion purpose and meaning in the modern, empirical, data based, scientific method world is at once noble and worthy, and serves well the interests of the public square. How's that? Smiley
16  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Do you consider Texas part of the South? on: April 13, 2014, 03:52:17 pm
Dallas is pretty darn Southern to me. San Antonio presumably isn't, although I have not been there. Houston in some ways is less Southern to me than Dallas.  In some ways, it even has kind of an LA ambiance. To me, where the primary minority is blacks, it's Southern, where Hispanic, and the cattle start running in lieu of crops, it's Western, and in the Panhandle and the flat as a pancake wheat growing belt, it's Midwestern plains.
17  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Had an idea on: April 13, 2014, 12:28:44 pm
No thank you. It has the potential to be something a train wreck, as the interlocutors talk past each other, one reverting to Biblical text, and the other to other sources of "authority."
18  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: opinion of clarence on: April 13, 2014, 12:26:42 pm
19  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Petition to free King on: April 13, 2014, 12:04:43 pm
He's posting again. But hey, being drunk is not a get out of jail free card. The total point count I admit was a bit much. I already cut one down to 5 points from the 10 that had been put up by another Mod, and think I will cut the other two five pointers down to 2 and 3 respectively, so that my "contribution" to the death point count for his trio on my Boards is limited to 10 overall points for the drunk spree. Inks' and Ernest's points are on top of that, and I can't do anything about what they do on their Boards. So there you have it. Sorry.
20  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Do you consider Texas part of the South? on: April 13, 2014, 10:40:28 am
In 2012 the white vote in TX was as close to SC as it was to AZ, KS, and NE (DKE). The Deep South (LA, MS, AL, GA, SC) average Obama white vote was 13.6%. The central and southern Great Plains (OK, KS, NE) was OWV of 25.1%. The Southwest (AZ, NM) was OWV of 36.8%. The average of those three are 25.1% and TX was 23.4%. That certainly suggests a model where TX is only about 1/3 consistent with the South.

I don't know that I entirely trust that DKE data. (For example, that shows Obama's share of Oklahoma whites being cut roughly in half from 2008 to 2012, which doesn't add up to me.) I was only looking at the 2008 exit polls (since they exit polled all 50 states that year). That showed both Texas and South Carolina whites giving Obama 26%. The nearest states to those were Georgia at 23% and Oklahoma at 29%. I suppose it's not really fair to describe the Deep South white vote as a voting bloc. Whites in Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama are really in a realm of their own, separate from all other states. However, it's still the case that Texas whites did vote very similar compared to South Carolina and Georgia whites in 2008.

What you are doing is trying to find a single state fit based solely on voting behavior. Many posters here and most geographers recognize that TX is split between different regions. My point is that you can just as easily get the TX value by averaging voting patterns from different adjacent regions.

Yes, Texas has three different cultural strains, but if one had to pick a region to put the state in, the South to me is clearly the most appropriate choice. LBJ incidentally when he had presidential ambitions in the late 1950's agitated to have TX labeled a Western state, to get away from the baggage associated with the South as the Civil Rights movement was reaching critical mass.
21  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Petition to ban Krazen on: April 13, 2014, 09:51:11 am
Torie, don't you feel pretty bad about not being here to save opebo?

I feel it unfortunate that I was not around to participate in the discussion. Whether matters would have evolved differently will remain forever unknown. The thing is, I say something, somebody else says something, and opinions form as a consequence of the interchange, so it is kind of useless to speculate as to what might have happened. Opebo however was on very thin ice, and then matters moved quickly while I was gone due to the Dave intervention. What is a fair statement, is that opebo enjoyed living on the edge. He just ended up flying a bit too close to the sun as it turned out. I certainly feel no joy over it all.
22  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of King on: April 13, 2014, 12:44:34 am
Oh, he's been muted now by the point rack up (not all given by me). Too late. Nice note from him to me anyway. Tomorrow is another, and hopefully sober, day.

To clarify: he's on mod review, not muted.


By virtue of going over 50 points now, right, as opposed to one 50 point push of the button?  Anyway, that is what I meant, as a consequence of the incremental point rack up, he got muted by virtue of being on mod review. Anyway, it was King who told me he was "muted" so blame him! Smiley
23  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of King on: April 13, 2014, 12:08:27 am
Those of you who purport to like and care about him, like I do, should do what I did, and PM to beg him to stop. Thanks. This is a human being out, not some clown for your entertainment. He's about to get hurt.

Oh, he's been muted now by the point rack up (not all given by me). Too late. Nice note from him to me anyway. Tomorrow is another, and hopefully sober, day.
24  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of King on: April 12, 2014, 11:59:17 pm
He's having a rough night death point wise. 10 by me so far. Somebody with whom he poses trust needs to tell him to stop ASAP. It's sad really. I like the guy. Sad
25  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: do you support any abortion restrictions? on: April 12, 2014, 08:55:38 pm
To people who are basing restrictions on trimesters: Why? Is there anything specific about the beginning of a specific trimester that causes you to oppose abortion once that point is passed? Wouldn't it just be better to tie restrictions to specific fetal developments than to tie it to the beginning of a trimester? If you support trimester-based restrictions because fetal developments that are tied to the beginning of a certain trimester, what development?

The break point of the first trimester is a reasonably proxy for when brain waves start, and the fetus begins to look human.
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