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51  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Bill Kristol announces someone will run 3rd party UPDATE: It's David French on: June 01, 2016, 09:39:23 am
What are the odds French is releasing a book about himself this fall and Kristol gets a substantial portion of the gross receipts?

People would have to actually buy it...
52  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: How would the Florida Senate race rate if Rubio runs for Re-Election? on: May 31, 2016, 03:51:41 pm
Lean D. I think you guys are underestimating how badly he was damaged by his embarrassing, terrible presidential campaign.
53  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Does Donald Trump respect the constitution? on: May 31, 2016, 11:04:18 am
No. Trump's contempt for the Constitution and willingness to govern outside of it, and ability to appoint judges who share his views, are by far the most terrifying things about him.
54  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Who is Bill Kristol's mystery man? on: May 31, 2016, 08:53:58 am
Unless Kristol actually has Romney or an incumbent Senator/Governor (and the fact that we're down to random House people being bantered about shows this probably isn't the case), he needs to face that Gary Johnson, while not as interventionist as him, is much closer to his views than Clinton or Trump and is eminently qualified to be President. Recruiting a fourth candidate who isn't meaningfully better known just reinforces the duopoly.
This is probably the best shot at actually winning electoral votes that the Libertarian party has ever had.  This is the kind of year that 3rd parties dream of.
And a third party will still shrink to 2-3% at the end of the day.

Not if the media covers the candidate.

Even the most slobbering, shameful media lovefest isn't enough:

55  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Who is Bill Kristol's mystery man? on: May 30, 2016, 10:29:46 pm
In descending order of likelihood:

1) No one
2) Random conservative activist who has never held elected office
3) Random back-bencher congressman no one outside of Atlas has heard of
4) Kristol himself
5) Discredited General (McChrystal, Petraeus, etc.)
56  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Who is Bill Kristol's mystery man? on: May 30, 2016, 09:45:27 pm


No, and I never will, even if Trump gets elected.
57  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Was choosing Philadelphia for the Democratic National Convention a masterstroke? on: May 16, 2016, 02:27:37 pm
I'm not convinced holding the convention in a state helps win that state. It's not even backed up historical precedent.

Yes, I never understood why people think snarling up traffic in a large city for a week in the middle of the summer and holding an event that draws in crazies from all over the country who come to protest is supposed to make people MORE likely to vote for you.
58  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: How would an ISIL-related terrorist attack affect the race? on: May 16, 2016, 01:22:48 pm
Pro-Trump media outlets are now putting out openly Anti-Semitic headlines.
59  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: How would an ISIL-related terrorist attack affect the race? on: May 16, 2016, 01:08:32 pm
60  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Breitbart disgraceful headline regarding Bill Kristol and his third party effort on: May 16, 2016, 01:05:42 pm
This is no surprise.  Trump's done an excellent job swinging the "libertarian" right over to the dark side.

And this is a Horowitz piece, so there you go.

The alt right doesn't claim to be libertarian. In fact, they actively dislike libertarians.

Most of those who were Right-Libertarians 5-10 years ago are on the Alt-Right now: the high water mark of Right-Libertarianism in America was probably the Tea Party Wave of 2010, but the actions of Right-Libertarians in the positions of power and influence that they've managed to achieve have made it abundantly clear why Right-Libertarianism is the ideological preserve of angsty teenage white boys rather than a credible theory for organizing society.
61  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Hillary Unleashes Hounds of War on Donald Trump on: May 13, 2016, 09:02:08 am
I think a combination of "con man," "bull in a china shop," and "big baby" are the way to go, personally.

Cruz bombarded Indiana with "con man" and "this is how he talks about our mothers, our sisters, our daughters."  It helped a lot. /sarcasm.

The problem is that Republican primary voters, by and large, agree with Trump on these things. They've also been conditioned to accept and not think critically about what trusted sources (meaning Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, and their Pastor in roughly that order) say. That's much less the case with the general election electorate, which is also less angry and fearful.
62  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Will Donald and Melania Trump be happy living in the White House.......... on: May 12, 2016, 11:00:02 pm
The Hay Adams and Willard Hotels are across the street and would be much more to The Donald's liking.
63  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Who won the RT America Libertarian Party debate? on: May 12, 2016, 10:57:58 pm
Any debate hosted by RT is a victory for the Kremlin and it's goal of getting Donald Trump elected president.
64  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Devastating Documentary coming soon. on: May 12, 2016, 11:11:42 am
Remember how Michael Moore's magnum opus, that great masterpiece Farenheit 9/11, was released the summer before the 2004 Election, resulting in George W. Bush's defeat and President Kerry's election... oh wait
65  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Hillary Unleashes Hounds of War on Donald Trump on: May 12, 2016, 11:09:58 am
I actually thought the Trump University stuff had some legs, especially with stories run parallel to it about the working people who were defrauded by the scam. It's a repeat of the Romney Bain style attack of showing that he doesn't actually care about working people and it's probably a lot more effective that highlighting yet again all his sexist, racist etc statements - I think by this stage everyone's already aware of those and have made their minds whether to keep supporting him based on them. It's a shame that the judge postponed the Trump University trial until after the election because that would have certainly kept it front and centre in the news during the general election cycle.

And the tax returns. Every single day some Clinton surrogate needs to openly speculate on air on what's so troubling in them that he refuses to release them.


What could be in Trump's tax returns:

  • He's paying little or nothing in taxes
  • He's not as rich as he claims to be
  • Investments in unpopular or politically damaging companies
  • Donations to liberal democrats
  • More investments in China than he's previously admitted
66  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: FL/OH/PA Quinnipiac: Close races everywhere (Trump +4 in OH, Clinton +1 in FL/PA on: May 11, 2016, 06:25:01 pm
There's no way 20% of the electorate is undecided. They didn't push leaners hard enough (or, it would seem, at all).
67  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Who won the RT America Green Party debate? on: May 11, 2016, 06:22:24 pm
The Kremlin, for convincing a bunch of super delusional people to give them programming time.

Jesus Christ, is the Green Party trying to be a self-parody?
68  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Bigoted Judge Finally Gets What's Coming To Him on: May 11, 2016, 06:20:58 pm
Roy Moore is the judicial activist tyrant that behaves the way conservatives accuse liberal justices of acting.

In the past 30 years, Conservatives have been legislating from the bench much, much more than liberals have.
69  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls / Re: FL/OH/PA Quinnipiac: Close races everywhere (Trump +4 in OH, Clinton +1 in FL/PA on: May 10, 2016, 02:52:23 pm
Also, I'm surprised people are freaking out so badly over this. Even if you assume this poll is accurate, it's not a big deal. Polls bounce around. In fact, Trump is probably going to objectively be in the lead at some point. Perhaps during the RNC bounce, or if Hillary makes some gaffe, or if the media goes into a tizzy about a manufactured faux scandal. Even Dukakis and McCain led at certain points, so it's very likely Trump will as well. The media wants a horserace. Brace yourselves for it.

That's what they were saying a year ago...
70  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Sanders suggests that the Democratic Party fund a left-wing Fox News equivalent on: May 09, 2016, 09:29:21 pm
Bu.....but I though MSNBC was the left's Fox!
It is, they just suck at it.
71  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: What party would this hypothetical person belong to? on: May 08, 2016, 04:27:42 pm
I consider myself to be a center-right on foreign policy issues overall. I would consider myself to be a neoconservative.


Serious question: would anybody outside of Atlas and Downtown DC ever actually say this, especially in 2016?
72  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: The next white male Democratic president on: May 08, 2016, 04:24:51 pm
Put in another pitch for Seth Moulton, assuming he gets a Senate seat soon enough.
Moulton is only 37. I think it would actually be better for him to serve a few terms in congress and then serve a term or two in Markey's seat once he retires.
73  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What % of the Asian American vote will Hillary receive? on: May 08, 2016, 04:22:47 pm
75-79%. Trump is nearly as toxic to Asians as he is to Latinos
74  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: The Purple Haired Witch has died. on: May 08, 2016, 11:46:09 am
I like her husband better, anyways RIP.

How anyone in their right mind could like Erich Honecker of all people is far beyond me - even if one supposedly were a fan of the DDR and its business, why exactly Honecker, who is simply the most typically German, spießbürgerliche, boring, bland figure of power in most of history. That guy just has nothing - no charisma, not one bit of interesting-ness or likeability, not one trait of character that makes him remotely anything.

Anyway, it wasn't to early for ol' Margot either.

Which is why Atlas posters would like him.
75  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Congressional Elections / Re: Biggest Recruitment Failure of the Cycle on: May 08, 2016, 11:24:21 am
The biggest GOP recruitment failure was FL when Marco retired to run for prez. It was assumed that GOP was gonna lock down FL. But FL is Tilting Dem and is a state that will count towards 50 seats.

I'm not so sure about that. Rubio was badly damaged by his disastrous, embarrassing presidential run.

IMO: Democrats failure to recruit frmr Gov. Mike Beebe in a run against Sen. Boozman in Arkansas.

Beebe still would have lost, especially with Trump at the top of the ticket.
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