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51  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What would it take to end Trumps chances? on: August 22, 2016, 10:38:33 am
Slapping a White Blonde Southern Baptist Military Orphan across the face while calling her a c[inks]t  might do it.
52  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Jerry Falwell Jr.: Trump is the next Winston Churchill on: August 22, 2016, 10:13:22 am
I imagine if many Atlas posters (particularly the #nevertrump crowd) had been around in the UK in 1940, they would have proudly been tweeting #imwithhalifax on account of Churchill's 'unsuitable temperament', 'unaccepable remarks' and 'lack of qualifications for the Prime Ministership', in contrast to the 'statesmanlike' and 'qualified' Earl of Halifax.

The StormTrumpers would have been supporting Hitler and the Regressive Leftists would have been supporting Stalin. Whatever his other flaws, Churchill passed the pivotal moral test of his time.
53  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What % of the African American vote will Trump receive? on: August 19, 2016, 12:12:00 pm
4%, but I feel like that's being generous and there's a good chance he'll come in 3rd.
54  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: How will Pokémon Go players vote? on: August 18, 2016, 01:45:03 pm
Trump will probably come in 3rd among Pokemon Go Players.
55  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Kaine in 2002: Clinton should have resigned over Lewinsky scandal on: August 17, 2016, 10:30:33 am
56  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump to receive first classified briefing tomorrow on: August 16, 2016, 01:47:03 pm
As it should be happening. I am sure Trump knows how to keep a secret. He wouldn't have gotten to where he was in business if he started blabbing about his plans to acquire certain parcels of real estate.

Trump is a showman. There's a reason why his biggest success was The Apprentice, while Trump Steaks, Trump Vodka, and Trump World Magazine are no longer in business.
57  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Hillary begins debate prep: Lewinsky, Flowers, rape, emails and foundation on: August 16, 2016, 09:38:35 am
She can prepare all that she wants. She'll sound even more rehearsed and robotic while Trump is more unpredictable and can divert from the script.

Yep, we know the outcome of his speeches without a teleprompter.

If managed properly, he could pull it off by being unpredictable and catching Hillary off-guard. Trump's biggest weakness in the debate is that he won't have a stage full of cringing betas cowering in terror that he'll pick on them next.
58  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Hillary begins debate prep: Lewinsky, Flowers, rape, emails and foundation on: August 16, 2016, 09:11:51 am
Wow, thank goodness Team Clinton is preparing for all options. Who knows what type of loose canon Trump will be, but I'm glad that she begins prep thinking of all the sordid details that Trump brings up.

If Trump attacks her regarding Lewinsky or Flowers, what do you think her response should be? I'm curious about how she would respond if Trump tries to bring up these intensely personal issues.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/hillary-clinton-prepare-trump-debate-lewinsky-227033

She won't dignify those types of attacks with a response that would hurt her, that's for sure.  Trump would be foolish to bring up Bill's past in the debate.  Those comments would backfire immediately and all Hillary would have to do is remain professional and let Trump lose more credibility with the millions of Americans watching.  The media would then proceed to destroy him.

Hillary knows Trump can't resist taking the bait on this, so they're going to set a trap to make sure it backfires on Trump in a way that makes him look as cruel and misogynistic as possible.
59  General Politics / Individual Politics / Re: Which of the following are undercover Russian operatives? on: August 16, 2016, 08:50:46 am
Only Stein, Flynn, and Johnson are actual FSB assets. Trump himself isn't, but Paul Manafort is, and it's obvious that Manafort is pulling the strings on his puppet Trump. Gabbard's staff has probably been similarly infiltrated. Farage, Corbyn, and Le Pen are all useful idiots.
60  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Are the Republicans locked out of the Electoral College? on: August 16, 2016, 08:16:14 am
A slaughtering of Trump maybe gets the party back on course. That said there is still a chance the far right conservatives demand one of their own in 2020.

When Trump loses, three things will happen on different corners of the Right:

1) Establishment conservatives will write him off as a fluke and continue with business as usual
2) His supporters will claim he was stabbed in the back, especially if the RNC effectively renounces him and Republican officials continue to disavow him or at least tamper down their support. This will lead to them becoming even more bitter and angry, likely leading him to being the early frontrunner for 2020
3) The Tea Party/Religious Right/Radio Right will, as always, claim that he lost because he wasn't conservative enough, leading them to push for an even more hard right conservative. Ted Cruz is already positioning himself for his 2020 campaign.
61  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Hillary scrubs sexual assault pledge after allegations against Bill resurface on: August 16, 2016, 08:12:04 am
Believing the alleged victim in all circumstances is superficially silly and meaningfully detrimental to justice, so good for Hillary.

At the risk of sounding like an MRA, I agree with you. Alleged victims have the right to have their allegations taken seriously, not necessarily the right to be believed.
62  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Griff's Megathread for Evolving State Presidential GIFs on: August 11, 2016, 08:55:22 am
Could you please do one with Virginia? Definitely featuring George Allen, whose defeat was the harbinger of the state's evolution. Confederate Virginia has evolved into Northern Virginia!
63  General Politics / International General Discussion / Re: Akihito is abdicating on: August 11, 2016, 08:52:02 am
Could the Diet just get rid of the Household Agency if it wanted to, or at least vastly curtail it's power? It really just sounds needlessly cruel and outdated, not to mention a huge waste of money.
64  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / Presidential Election Trends / Re: Which demographic change should Republicans fear most? on: August 08, 2016, 10:08:21 am
2 & 5 are closely related: a lot of millennials were permanently turned off from both the GOP and organized religion by the social authoritarianism of the Religious Right and the Bush Era Republican Party.
65  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / U.S. Presidential Election Results / Re: Describe a Goldwater 1964, McGovern 1972, Romney 2012 voter on: August 08, 2016, 10:06:28 am
Most likely a rural white Southerner or a libertarian.
A rural white southerner would be very unlikely to vote for McGovern.
A rural white southerner would have also been very unlikely to vote for a Republican at that time.
Look at the 1972 county map.
66  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Who will militant left-wing Black Panthers/black separatists vote for? on: August 08, 2016, 10:05:58 am
Most of the original Black Panthers have moderated their views, no longer support Black Separatism, and are now on the left wing of the Democratic Party. Most of them will probably be voting Hillary, with smaller numbers voting for Jill Stein or sitting out the election.

Actual Black Supremacists don't take part in American party politics because doing so would be legitimizing the United Snakes of AmeriKKKa.
67  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Before you say the election is over and Clinton is the next President... on: August 07, 2016, 08:44:11 am
Can you guys imagine how insufferable JSojurner's hand-wringing over Trump would be?
68  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Politico: Melania may have committed visa fraud, illegally immigrated to US on: August 04, 2016, 11:32:38 pm
I DEMAND TO SEE THE LONG FORM OF MELANIA TRUMP'S SLOVENIAN PASSPORT!!! THIS IS THE ONLY WAY THIS CAN BE CLEARED UP!!!
69  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Who will Kaine pick for VP? on: August 04, 2016, 10:46:21 pm
For his 2024 campaign, probably someone who's not even in national office yet.
70  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Site that 'unbiases' polls shows Trump is actually ahead on: August 04, 2016, 09:48:28 pm
Wow so Trump really is going to lose.
71  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Is the feud with the Kahn family Trump's 47 %? on: August 04, 2016, 09:40:51 am
I initially thought he would coast through this, the way he has with everything else, but I've changed my view over the last few days, because this really does seem to have hurt him.

Having a Brown Pakistani-American Muslim Immigrant with a thick accent who knows more about being an American than Trump ever will bitch-slap him with the Constitution was a brilliant act of political theater, and would have been bad enough for him. But he made it much, much worse by personally attacking the Khan family, which was totally unnecessary. If he had just responded the way that Mike Pence did to the Air Force Mom at his rally the other day, the whole thing would have subsided and the media would have moved on to something else. But Trump's reply showed his pettiness, his callousness, his cruelty, his lack of empathy, his ingratitude, and his lack of understanding of true sacrifice. He could still pull it out if Hillary really messes up or if there's a major Wikileaks doc-drop the week before the election, but his chances of winning probably just went from around 40% to around 5-10%.
72  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Is the feud with the Kahn family Trump's 47 %? on: August 04, 2016, 09:06:26 am
No. This is much worse.

Concur. This fatally scratched the Teflon

This I don't see.  It's a long way to November.  I still assert that what the Khans did was a partisan political act, and that responding to it, however inelegantly, is not out of bounds.

Mr. Khan has already removed his immigration website from the internet.  Now I've seen that website; there's nothing wrong with it, but the only reason for him to remove it is to counter the politicization of his own comments, which were, truthfully, political on their face.

The internet is abuzz with information about Mr. Khan and Sharia Law.  A goodly amount of that comes from trashy right-wing websites that would give my computer a virus if I clicked them on, but Mr. Khan has injected himself into the campaign whole hog.  What DOES Mr. Khan believe about Sharia Law?  More importantly, if Mr. Khan DOES believe in the application of Sharia Law, what implications does this have for Hillary Clinton, who has gone to bat for the Khans?  Or for the Democratic Party, who put the Khans on their podium?  Or for the Feminist Left, which has made "sexism" a feature in the campaign against Trump?  None of this makes Mr. Khan a bad guy, but some of this, if there turned out to be anything at all to it, would deflate the air in this particular balloon.

Ordinarily, Mr. Khan's opinions about Sharia Law wouldn't be relevant.  But he's injected himself into the campaign, and he's not going away; he's appeared on TV after saying he was done with the whole thing.  And he's invoked the Constitution.  I certainly cannot see how Sharia Law is compatible with both the Constitution and the liberal principles on gender/LGBT and religious issues that the Democratic Party has asserted, particularly when their targets are conservative Christians.  The Democrats are not shy when it comes to voicing where they stand on conservative Christians and the church/state thing.  Let them clarify their true position on Sharia Law while they're at it.



Khan does not believe in imposing Sharia Law. This from Breitbart of all places:

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COOPER: Let me ask you, just yesterday an official adviser on Veteran’s Affairs just the guy who was referencing before and the Trump campaign Al Baldasaro tweeted out this. He said, he tweeted out a link to a blog post which essentially accuses you of being a Muslim brotherhood agent who wants to advance Sharia Law in the United States adding that you used your son as a political pawn. I want you to be able to respond to that.

KHAN: Yeah. And I hope his surrogates are listening so they can take note of it what I’m about to say. I have no concern, I have no link, I have never been of that thought of that. I assure you I am an educated person. There is and I hope that other not so thoughtful Republican leaders are listening, there is constitutional amendment in the constitution of United States and that is called equal protection of law under 14th Amendment. Sharia Law as we have titled, there is no such thing as Sharia Law.

These are laws of various Muslim countries which are hodgepodge of British laws, French laws, Portuguese laws. In there, there is tremendous discrimination of genders which disqualifies them under the constitution of the United States, cannot be implemented, cannot be brought. How can I be a person that has read this, I preach that, that I do not stand for any Sharia Law because there is no such thing.
73  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: If Trump declines to debate and Johnson isn't polling at 15%... on: August 04, 2016, 07:30:48 am
Yes, the debates should go on anyway, and questions for Trump should be asked to an empty podium just to rub in the salt.
74  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Who will Donald Trump attack next? on: August 03, 2016, 03:03:54 pm
I'm actually surprised he hasn't attacked the LDS Church yet. Someone should bait him with a question about his polling numbers in Utah.
75  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Republicans planning Trump intervention on: August 03, 2016, 03:01:51 pm
Also, I think this is too late. Trump has crossed lines he shouldn't have in the last several days.

Yep, the toothpaste is out of the tube now. The convention was the time to rehabilitate him and he has completely nuked any good that came out of Cleveland.

He's done it before though. He actually led in the polls after the Judge Curiel thing happened and while the Star of David controversy was going on.
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