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51  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: FBI source: Russia is interferring but Comey thinks timing is bad on: October 31, 2016, 06:38:08 pm
Anyone going to own up to the ridiculous pearl clutching in the Reid thread?

He was, as usual, correct.  Comey is a disgrace to public service.  He and Trump are peas in a pod.  Won't surprise me when it's revealed in a few years time that Comey abused his position in other ways, too.

I think Comey is onto something. There is something in those emails which is relevant to the previous investigation.

The issue is that if he waited until after the election to release it, the Republicans would have kittens.
He was in a position where there were no good options and he was damned if he did and damned if he didn't. Still, he went about it in basically the worst way possible, especially since this latest investigation has been ongoing for weeks and he waited until 11 days before the election to disclose it.
52  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: BREAKING: Trump Server Connected to Russia on: October 31, 2016, 06:23:53 pm

Too hard to follow. Too convoluted and complex.

Why can't it be something as simple as Hillary's emails? That might get attention.
It doesn't have to be, and the Clinton email scandal isn't particularly simple either. A headline with "Trump" Server" "Russia" is damaging enough
53  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump: Putin can't stand Hillary, so vote for me! on: October 31, 2016, 06:14:21 pm
I sort of like the idea of the U.S. having a better relationship with Russia, but Trump's bromance with Putin is terrible for the country.

Nuclear war is even worse for the country, my friend. We'd best avoid that.

Yes, because a country which literally threatens to nuke us (okay fine it was one fairly marginal guy but still) if we don't vote the way they want is not and isn't going to be our friend.
54  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: FBI source: Russia is interferring but Comey thinks timing is bad on: October 31, 2016, 03:09:05 pm
RUSSIAN AGENT COMEY MUST RESIGN!!!!
55  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Comey blowback megathread - Latest: may have violated Hatch act? on: October 31, 2016, 12:42:16 pm
The party that "respects our insitutions", folks.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/harry-reid-james-comey-clinton_us_58166a08e4b0990edc31d618


Deplorable. Utterly Deplorable

You got owned by a sick old Mormon. Deal with it.
56  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Jill Stein Accused of Investing in Dirty Coal, Big Pharma on: October 28, 2016, 08:36:55 am
Atlas picking on someone at 1-2% in the polls instead of the people in power? SAD!
Considering that the sole purpose of Jill Stein's presidential campaign is to get Donald Trump elected president so he can do the bidding of Russia, the Coal Industry, and Big Oil, I have no problems with this.


57  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: For all who say it's over., look back to 2000 on: October 25, 2016, 01:30:30 pm
I doubt the polls can swing that much this year: the electorate is much more polarized, voter engagement is higher, preferences are more baked-in, and the ideological difference between the candidates is greater.
58  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Which state has the best chance of being insta-called. on: October 25, 2016, 01:29:07 pm
Georgia, because none of the others will happen, other than perhaps Nevada.

Georgia wasn't insta-called in 2012 when Romney won by 9.

IIRC, Georgia hasn't been insta-called in any election I've followed (it might have been in 2004, but I distinctly remember it wasn't in 2000, 2008, or 2012), so it's doubtful it will be this time.
59  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Donald Trump Might Surprise Us on: October 23, 2016, 05:14:23 pm
"people you know" is never an accurate or representative sample. I learned that the hard way back in 2004.
60  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump wants a fourth debate (or at least it was floated out there) on: October 23, 2016, 02:17:52 pm
LET'S DO IT:

- Trump is a terrible debater
- Hillary takes debate prep seriously, so she'll take a week off the campaign trail to prep, meaning that the Obamas, Biden, and Sanders can replace her and she can't make any gaffes
61  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Does Wikileaks have anything more on DNC/HRC/etc megethread on: October 21, 2016, 10:15:10 am
it's the same as if you are running for mayor in a small village and some people broke into your house and stole your school diaries.

every day between then and the election day, some not very harming and surely not criminal but embrarassing details about your teenagehood is going to be published all over your village, going to make you look - on the long run - like a "loser"/weirdo, cause everybody is able to compare your own private thoughts with the shop-window lies of everyone else.

leaking hillary's wall street speeches is at least partially comparable to the "47%"-speech.

leaking bickering, arguing and complaining each day for weeks is not in any way useful to anyone....and just a desperate attack to change this election with gossip.

I hope that this episode teaches both the Left and Right that the concept that there should absolutely never be any secrecy at all (advocated by Assange and to a more limited degree by some in Silicon Valley) is utterly horrifying.
62  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: HuffPo: Trump Was Seething After 3rd Debate on: October 20, 2016, 02:58:03 pm
Clinton Was Crying After 3rd Debate

Clinton knew that she blew it big time, and DJT got under her skin in the most effective way possible. She was caught on camera holding back tears right as the debate ended. Here are some video captures on it.


You can't tell anger from happiness? That's pretty concerning. In any case, the videos speak for themselves. If you think Trump won this or even got remotely close to getting under her skin, you're deluded Smiley

She knew she'd done it and that there was now a 99% chance that she would be president.
63  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: In 2013 Trump wished for open borders, free trade and praised Europe on: October 19, 2016, 09:48:48 am
Wait, are you saying Trump is a (((Globalist)))!?!?!
64  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump says election 'rigged' - Ryan/Pence say it isn't - Trump doubles down megathread on: October 19, 2016, 09:17:43 am
Does Trump not realize the very real dangers of calling an election rigged before it even takes place?
1) It's quite possible that Trump doesn't actually know what the word "rigged" means in this context
2) Trump cares much more about preserving his ego than he does about the Republican House and Senate majorities, or even his own campaign.
65  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Do threats of violence from Trump supporters scare you? on: October 18, 2016, 10:43:51 am
I work 15 min walk away from Trump Tower. So in a way, yes.

I was in your neighborhood last weekend!



Welcome to NYC!

I was around there less than a month ago too Smiley

Welcome to you too! Unfortunately, if Trump loses, I may have to dig for cover.

I'm back home again in Indiana now.

Observations:
1. Argentinian Consulate a block away might be a good place for The Donald to run to.
2. Dainobu on 56th Street has better pre-packaged sushi than we can get freshly prepared in Indianapolis.  This has nothing to do with anything, just that I will miss that as a lunch option.

come on, if he takes refuge in a consulate, we all know which one it's going to be: http://www.ruscon.org/main_eng.html.
66  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump says election 'rigged' - Ryan/Pence say it isn't - Trump doubles down megathread on: October 18, 2016, 10:39:07 am
You have to remember that this is really just an extension of the voter suppression and intimidation that Republicans try every election. Also, 65+ racist white people going to black neighborhoods to cause problems at polling places is a recipe for disaster, and not necessarily for black voters. Trump clearly has no regard for the personal safety or well-being of his supporters.
67  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Who wins the 3rd and final debate? on: October 18, 2016, 09:19:32 am
Foreign policy, correct?

Trump doesn't know anything about foreign policy so it should be an easy victory for Clinton (even though I'm sure I'll disagree with her quite a bit personally).

No, it's actually going to cover a bunch of different topics: immigration, entitlements and debt, the Supreme Court, the economy, foreign policy, and each candidate's fitness to serve as president.

Good, I hope we finally get an abortion question. Trump is terrible at answering those for obvious reasons.

I also hope we get a transgender bathroom question just so Trump can throw Pence under the bus again and piss off SoCons even more in the process.
68  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump says election 'rigged' - Ryan/Pence say it isn't - Trump doubles down megathread on: October 18, 2016, 09:18:24 am
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One of Trump's GOP primary rivals, Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, rejected Trump's claims that the election is being "rigged."
"This election is not being rigged," Rubio, who is now seeking re-election to his Senate seat, said in a debate Monday against Democratic challenger Rep. Patrick Murphy. "There is no evidence behind any of this, so this should not continue to be said."


Link: http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/18/politics/donald-trump-rigged-election/index.html
Yet Little Marco will continue to support Trump no matter what Trump does, so...
69  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Prediction: states where Hillary will get 70%+ of the votes on: October 17, 2016, 09:40:24 am
Hawaii is the only possibility.
70  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Will we see one last swing to Trump? on: October 17, 2016, 09:40:02 am
This should be a poll, and yes.
71  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump TV could be real on: October 17, 2016, 09:39:34 am
Good news is that it would be bound to failure like the rest of his projects. I have no doubt that he'll do this and that he is trying to capitalize on his racist white nationalist support base, but I am really curious as to what it will look like.

1. What tv personalities will he steal from other networks? Who is going to sell his/her soul?
2. How does this effect Fox News? Are they brought down to CNN/MSNBC ratings levels?
3. How does he combine white nationalistic news coverage with the trashy reality he is used to making?
4. What does he say the purpose of this network will be?

1) Tomi Lahren, Milo Yiannopolous, Alex Jones, Sean Hannity, and Trump himself. Ben Carson can have a late-night show for those suffering from insomnia.
2) It'll wither and die
3) Easy: sensationalist coverage to highlight the grievances of older, white working class Americans, telling them how they're being oppressed by an athlete not standing during the national anthem or by Mexicans and Muslims pouring into the country to take their manual labor jobs
4) It literally doesn't matter what he says, but the purpose will be to complete the transformation of the Republican party into an authoritarian, anti-democratic Putinist party.   
72  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Should the US start arming and funding Chechen seperatists? on: October 17, 2016, 09:26:18 am
No, because they hate us too. What we should do is build massive DMZ-type border defenses on the border between Russia & Latvia/Estonia (and probably on the Lithuanian/Polish border with Belarus for good measure), permanently base 20-30,000 US troops in those countries, bring Sweden into NATO, and arm Ukraine & Georgia.
73  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Report: Trump called deaf actress "retarded" on: October 14, 2016, 10:20:18 am
1) This won't matter unless there's a tape
2) Trump's Alt-Right supporters and much of the Far Right like him better BECAUSE of his hatred and mockery of the disabled. As the Alt-Right and Trumpists ascend within the GOP, the Pro-Life window dressing will be removed and eugenics will make a comeback. You can already see hints of it.
74  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Faithless Elector watch: EC member in Washington won't vote for Hillary. on: October 13, 2016, 10:55:04 pm
I know the GA faithless elector was removed from the position.  But was the TX faithless elector ever removed?  Clinton is running a tight campaign, so I'm pretty sure the party will come down hard on this one and he'll be removed from the position.

Again; if you're planning on this, why let anyone know beforehand?  That's a good way to lose your position as an elector.  If you want to do it, then do it silently and claim responsibility afterwards.

Is there a deadline to replace electors though?
75  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: What country does Trump fit? on: October 13, 2016, 09:41:36 pm
Why is China even on the list? Somebody as crude, vulgar, and self-serving as Trump would never be able to rise through the ranks of the modern bureaucratic CCP.
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