They're both probably smaller than me

I think reluctantly Scottland. TNFland would be okay, but the high crime rate is a turn-off and having to be a union member in order to vote is absolutely intolerable. It's undemocratic and wrong for any group to have that much power concentrated in its hands.

Though, in Scottland, I would fight tooth and nail on school prayer.

Miles has a touch too much of moderate heroism for my liking, but I suppose it's lucky to find a southern Democrat at all. I'm sure we profoundly disagree on most issues though.

Tony Benn.

Mine: Joe Clark (Former Canadian PM)

Well... He did buy Jim Crockett Promotions to create WCW, which at its zenith was one half of the legendary Monday Night Wars. Such a happy 4 year or so period that was for me as a wrestling fan, so no matter what, he can't be all bad.

Dissent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldberg_v._Kelly

[Christmas 1975]

Christmas 1975

Lawrence Watson is sitting in a DC club with his buddies Scott Westman and Joe Biden. Westman and Watson both flirt with young girls. Biden does not, although he is laughing and talking as ever. Watson, younger, still more muscle than fat, leans in and kisses the girl's neck as he speaks to her.

Watson: I've got a nice place... Wanna get outta here and I can give you the grand tour?
Heidi: Stop! Larry!
Watson: Oh come on, Morgan. It's Christmas. Don't you wanna sit on Santa's lap?
Westman: Ha! Beard and everything! Ain't that right, Joe... Larry'd make a good Santa Claus, wouldn't he?
Biden: Nah. He's still a damn kid...
Westman: Too damn cold for me to fly back to Montana. I'm getting back to my apartment and I'm gonna open a few bottles of wine for my lady friend...
Watson: Just don't make me have to check on you in the morning. C'mon, Heidi, let's go....
Biden: Wait, it's Christmas Eve, let's all get a picture...

Later....

Lawrence and Heidi, both very drunk, make their way back to his apartment. It's spacious and sparsely decorated. Only a few portraits, a leather couch, a bedroom and a TV.

Heidi: This is it? I thought you said this place was nice...
Watson: Well, I'm never here. It's pretty damn nice for someone who drinks all night.
Heidi: How many women do you see here?
Watson: What would you think if I said dozens?
Heidi: I'd say you chose well tonight...

She drops her top.

Heidi: Merry Christmas, Lawrence...


Present Day, 1988

Older now, Lawrence sits on a bus putting photos in his personal album. Most of them are from the current campaign, but he leafs through the book, coming across the picture that was taken more than a decade ago. Joe Biden had taken it and Scott Westman, looking disheveled but happy, holding up a champagne bottle as he holds his date close. Lawrence sits with Heidi on his lap kissing him. Another young girl had happened to get in the picture and put her arms around him as well.

Laura: This was you and Scott?
Watson: (Breaking out of his stroll down memory lane) Yeah.
Laura: I don't think I've ever seen this one.
Watson: This was Christmas Eve '75, I think. I had only just got to Congress.
Laura: How many women were you with?
Watson: Oh, just Heidi. I don't know this girl behind me...
Laura: I know her and so do you. It's Emily Joffrey. She's younger there and her hair color's changed, but it's the same woman.
Watson: Really?
Laura: Did you ever sleep with her?
Watson: No, don't be stupid... Honest! I didn't even know her until '83!
Laura: You don't recognize a woman who's been on your staff for six goddamn years?! You son of a bitch!
Watson: No, stop! You knew what I was then. I told you and I was honest with you. But I am not sleeping with any other woman on the damn staff!
Laura: You've lied before.
Watson: About what?
Laura: You're a politician. You lie. You lied about quitting cigars because I can still smell the smoke on your jackets. How do I know you're not lying now?

Lawrence takes the picture out of the album and rips it up.

Watson: You just have to trust me. These are bad memories for me, anyway... What little I can remember...

The trailer isn't funny. In fact, it looks like they've made into more of an action film than anything else.

Its quality will probably be directly correlated with how much John Goodman is in it.

Right: Probably Chris Christie if it really came down to it.
Left: Rocky Anderson.

Wellstone.

Dubya. Both politically and temperamentally.

Well done! I'll hit a decade next summer.

Highest was 11.6 per day. Now just under 3.

Well, I'm glad Pope Frankie Five Angels is being so nice about it. I suppose he isn't as bad as I thought.

If I recall... I followed the link on Politics1.com to Leip's Election Atlas and happened to see a forum.

I miss board games. I wish they'd make a comeback.

I liked Clue the most. I never played Life, though.

4 because we match on social issues.

This made me realize that I first got here when Bush was in his first term...

Well, I've known Fritz on the forums for a LONG time... Maybe it seems longer than it has been in real time because forum time often moves slowly for me. Anyway, Fritz is a good guy. I was his SOIA in Atlasia and I did try hard to do right by him although we didn't communicate as often as I'd have liked to, but still, he did give me an office I tried to work in. Overall, I think he's an institution here. I don't see his posts all that often anymore.

Forgive me for not keeping it going. I've had some issues with depression since this and I don't usually do any writing or anything when I'm going through one of the down periods.

Angry version: An epic FF in the 50's and early 60's.  HP as the VP, and especially in 968 (kudos for privately opposing the war in Vietnam, don't pretend to support it then!). Oh, and the tactics that he used to win the nomination in 68 were inexcusable.  I mean, he would've won anyway, but it was still despicable.  Bossism, not even running in the primaries, it all wreaks of being usurped by the establishment.  And he didn't even condemn the Chicago Police's tactics during the DNC.  He was okay during the 70's, but his record as VP and as the 68 candidate are a stain on his reputation.  

Intelligent, balanced version: An epic FF during his pre-Vice Presidency Senate years.  One who failed to see LBJ for the warmongering, power-hungry sleaze-bag that he was, and unfortunately proved too mentally/morally weak to stand up to him, failing to notice that the entire Democratic establishment was sucking him up via LBJ, until he had learned how to put his own views aside and tow the party line.  Too weak to openly break with Johnson as VP and in 68, and found himself suddenly relying on the same corrupt tactics of the establishment against which he ran in 1960.  Turned back somewhat into his old self in the 70's without fully repenting for his 65-69 years.  Should've given a stronger apology, but I still respect him greatly for his work both before and after his vice-presidency.

On the occasions he did stand up to Johnson, LBJ's petty reactions were to freeze him out. LBJ forbade Humphrey's staff from even speaking to him. What was he supposed to do to stand up to him? He could've resigned, I guess, but he wanted to be able to influence domestic policy. The worst decision the man ever made was to agree to be Johnson's runningmate.

There's a group on Facebook that we all set up after Randy shut the site down the first time. Seth (Chronicler) who now controls the site has said he made some sort of error while attempting to fix some bugs. Should be back up within the week.

I truly despise Romney down to his very core. He is the antithesis of everything I believe a person should be. Huckabee's politics really suck, so McCain wins on the strength that I think he's a decent human being on the whole.

In-N-Out (normal)

I don't think I've even ever seen one.

It's only available on the West Coast IIRC.

Well, that would be why, then. I've only ever been on the west coast for flight layovers.

Slapshot

I remember listening to DVE one day and they had one of the Hanson Brothers on for like an hour and a half.