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1  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Dave's Mock Election 2016 is now open!!! on: September 23, 2016, 11:13:13 pm
So why is that Evan McMullin guy green instead of Jill Stein?

Independent has always been green
2  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Has anyone seen this bizarre video of Hillary? on: September 23, 2016, 10:12:15 pm
Yeah, it is bizarre because she was video conferencing into a LIUNA assembly and was shouting over the crowd. Playing it without that context makes it sound like a Dean scream moment, but, well, who cares?

Well, In a world where voters (and increasingly, even the media) doesn't care to look into the context of something, the video won't play well for her. I'm sure those on the right will start talking about some sort of medical condition causing this.
3  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: If you're a Clinton supporter, how would you describe your mood about the polls? on: September 07, 2016, 10:32:04 pm
They should be at least nervous. I think Trump is going to vastly outperform the polls; I think we'll see that there are a lot of Trump voters out there who weren't willing to admit to supporting Trump to pollsters but will do so in the secrecy of the voting booth.

thus far there has been no evidence of that. Only evidence of the opposite: people who are saying they'll vote for Trump, but as soon as they get in that voting booth, reconsider that choice. And admittedly, even evidence of that is scant.

Well there can't be any definitive evidence for it (or against it for that matter) until the results of the election are in. But we do have some circumstantial evidence that supports my concern, and that is that Trump does better I online polls than in live polls.

do you mean legit online polls or online polls where it's like "vote 15 times for Trump"?

Because the NBC Survey Monkey poll does show Clinton up 6 as opposed to CNN (which I believe is live) showing Trump up by 2.

I mean legit online polls.
4  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: If you're a Clinton supporter, how would you describe your mood about the polls? on: September 07, 2016, 10:08:04 pm
They should be at least nervous. I think Trump is going to vastly outperform the polls; I think we'll see that there are a lot of Trump voters out there who weren't willing to admit to supporting Trump to pollsters but will do so in the secrecy of the voting booth.

thus far there has been no evidence of that. Only evidence of the opposite: people who are saying they'll vote for Trump, but as soon as they get in that voting booth, reconsider that choice. And admittedly, even evidence of that is scant.

Well there can't be any definitive evidence for it (or against it for that matter) until the results of the election are in. But we do have some circumstantial evidence that supports my concern, and that is that Trump does better I online polls than in live polls.
5  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: If you're a Clinton supporter, how would you describe your mood about the polls? on: September 07, 2016, 09:50:53 pm
They should be at least nervous. I think Trump is going to vastly outperform the polls; I think we'll see that there are a lot of Trump voters out there who weren't willing to admit to supporting Trump to pollsters but will do so in the secrecy of the voting booth.
6  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Romney all but endorses Johnson on: September 07, 2016, 09:47:18 pm
I wish he would've outright endorsed him. That major of an endorsement could push Johnson over the 15% support threshold he needs to reach.
7  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Dave's Mock Election 2016 is now open!!! on: September 07, 2016, 09:40:41 pm
Done... Johnson.
8  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Trump supporters react to satirical campaign ads on: August 17, 2016, 09:35:34 pm
It's gotta be fake... nobody is that gullible.  Right?Huh
9  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Gary Johnson's #15for15 Money Bomb Exceeds $1.5 Million goal on: August 15, 2016, 05:43:36 pm
A bit surprised that we don't have a thread on this, but maybe I'm just paying more attention to Johnson's campaign because I'm supporting him.

The campaign had hoped to raise $1.5 million, asking donors to give $15 to help him reach 15% in the polls to get into the debate.  Obviously $1.5 million is just a drop in the bucket, but they've raised more in a day (or actually a few days, because money donated through links sent out in the past week has counted toward the goal) than any prior Libertarian candidate has raised in a month.
10  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: At this point, which would be the smarter move for Republicans? on: August 15, 2016, 05:36:46 pm
Dump Trump and lose the base; otherwise, this will become the norm, and the party will lose whole generations of voters for decades to come.
11  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Democratic National Convention days 3 and 4 **live commentary thread** on: July 27, 2016, 09:29:45 pm
He's doing a good job of pointing out Trump's lack of details.
12  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Democratic National Convention days 3 and 4 **live commentary thread** on: July 27, 2016, 09:26:53 pm
Tim Kaine needs to fire whoever did his makeup. Yikes.
13  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Democratic National Convention **live commentary thread** on: July 25, 2016, 10:36:53 pm
I am ashamed of the 43% of the democratic party that literally voted for a movement that is the beginning of America becoming China or Russia.

Bernie's proposed policies = China = Russia?

China and Russia are vastly different, and both are different than what he proposed.

Both are communist nations, Socialism is merely a step on the way to communism.

Apart from the fact that Russia isn't a communist nation (and ignoring the fact that a true communist nation has never existed), you can't say that adopting socialist policies means you're on the road to communism.  That's like saying electing a libertarian would be putting us on the road to anarchy.
14  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Democratic National Convention **live commentary thread** on: July 25, 2016, 10:13:58 pm
I am ashamed of the 43% of the democratic party that literally voted for a movement that is the beginning of America becoming China or Russia.

Bernie's proposed policies = China = Russia?

China and Russia are vastly different, and both are different than what he proposed.
15  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Democratic National Convention **live commentary thread** on: July 25, 2016, 09:36:53 pm
Is there a chance this backfires on the Bernie or Busters? This is incredibly rude.

Backfires how? They don't really have anything to lose once this convention is over.
16  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Democratic National Convention **live commentary thread** on: July 25, 2016, 09:18:59 pm
She's giving a great speech.
17  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Democratic National Convention **live commentary thread** on: July 25, 2016, 08:25:05 pm
That was kinda painful....
18  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Democratic National Convention **live commentary thread** on: July 25, 2016, 08:21:28 pm
Who is little miss sarcasm up there?  Missed the intro, she's really annoying.

Sarah Silverman
19  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Democratic National Convention **live commentary thread** on: July 25, 2016, 07:29:30 pm
The exploitation of the Hispanic girl's story was a bit much. Trump is terrible on immigration, but that doesn't justify stuff like that.

Her story is real, and it's not unique to her.  There's thousands of families in the same situation.

It would be exploitation, if we had reason to believe that Hillary has no intention of doing anything to help them, or worse, actually wanting to deport them.  AFAIK, there's no evidence of that though.  There's real differences between the campaigns on immigration.  I don't see why it's bad to acknowledge that with actual stories from real people.

Presenting a story about real people and writing a script for an 11-year-old to say onstage are two vastly different things.  You could tell the girl didn't even understand what was going on with her parents' situation. She just said what the campaign/party told her to say, and that's what I have an issue with.
20  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Democratic National Convention **live commentary thread** on: July 25, 2016, 07:24:27 pm
The exploitation of the Hispanic girl's story was a bit much. Trump is terrible on immigration, but that doesn't justify stuff like that.
Compared to the mother of a man killed at Benghazi, that's hardly exploitation.

Why do you need to compare this to the RNC? Exploitation is exploitation.
I'm comparing exploitation to exploitation. If you want, I could use Superfly as an example instead.

But why compare it at all? Just don't exploit people. The decision to do so shouldn't be based on whether the Republicans did it first.
21  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Democratic National Convention **live commentary thread** on: July 25, 2016, 07:19:17 pm
The exploitation of the Hispanic girl's story was a bit much. Trump is terrible on immigration, but that doesn't justify stuff like that.
Compared to the mother of a man killed at Benghazi, that's hardly exploitation.

Why do you need to compare this to the RNC? Exploitation is exploitation.
22  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Democratic National Convention **live commentary thread** on: July 25, 2016, 07:14:31 pm
The exploitation of the Hispanic girl's story was a bit much. Trump is terrible on immigration, but that doesn't justify stuff like that.
23  About this Site / The Atlas / Re: A Farewell to the Mod Cave on: July 23, 2016, 09:39:54 pm
Thanks for everything you've done for the forum. You were a great mod, and you were always pleasant to work with.
24  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: How much Magikarp candy do you have? on: July 20, 2016, 11:09:11 pm
what is 'mageekurp candee'?

I think it has something to do with the Pokyman.
25  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / North Miami Police Shoot and Wound Unarmed Black Caretaker on: July 20, 2016, 10:46:25 pm
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article90905442.html

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When a 23-year-old autistic man carrying a toy truck wandered from a mental health center out into the street Monday, a worker there named Charles Kinsey went to retrieve him.

A few minutes later the autistic man was still sitting cross-legged blocking the roadway while playing with the small, rectangular white toy. And Kinsey was prone on the ground next to him — a bullet from an assault rifle fired by a police officer having struck his leg.

“He throws his hands up in the air and says, ‘Don’t shoot me.’ They say lie on the ground, so he does,” Kinsey’s attorney Hilton Napoleon said Wednesday. “He’s on his back with his hands in the air trying to convince the other guy to lie down. It doesn’t make any sense.”

Absolutely ridiculous.  He's unarmed, with his hands up, telling the officers that he's unarmed.  Thank God he wasn't more seriously injured or killed.
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