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1  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update Season XIV: The new chapter on: Today at 12:23:22 am
Bushie I seriously doubt you have skin cancer, you never go outside...

This spot has been there for a couple years so it may be something that developed from my childhood.  It may not be skin cancer, but it still needs to be looked at.

Wait, what?  If you have a spot on your elbow that's been there for several years, why are you suddenly worried about it now?  Is it growing or something?


It hasn't gone away.  I mean it comes and goes, but it never goes away completely.  It shrinks down to a spot the size of a nail head, but then I just look at it and it starts itching again and it turns into the size of a dime.

Is it white and tough/hard?  It sounds like it could be psoriasis.

It was white, and then too much scratching turned it into a big blister-looking object that scabbed over.  The scab came off on Wednesday, but it did not bleed.  So, I'm thinking it may be on its way back down again because it is not quite as big as it was a couple days ago.  Again, though, it will probably go down for a while and then without fail it will start itching again and it will ramp back up again.

Yeah, it's probably psoriasis then.
2  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update Season XIV: The new chapter on: April 17, 2014, 10:45:20 pm
Bushie I seriously doubt you have skin cancer, you never go outside...

This spot has been there for a couple years so it may be something that developed from my childhood.  It may not be skin cancer, but it still needs to be looked at.

Wait, what?  If you have a spot on your elbow that's been there for several years, why are you suddenly worried about it now?  Is it growing or something?


It hasn't gone away.  I mean it comes and goes, but it never goes away completely.  It shrinks down to a spot the size of a nail head, but then I just look at it and it starts itching again and it turns into the size of a dime.

Is it white and tough/hard?  It sounds like it could be psoriasis.
3  Atlas Fantasy Elections / Regional Governments / Re: MA: Mideast Health Cost Containment Act of 2014 (Failed) on: April 17, 2014, 10:26:09 pm
Voting is now closed.  The AYEs are 1, and the NAYs are 3, with 1 not voting.  The NAYs have it, and the bill has failed.
4  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Petition to unban Barfbag on: April 17, 2014, 09:39:37 pm
Why is everybody talking about "barfbag" as if he's a unique poster? He's Derek... barfbag is Derek. He's a sock, not a legitimate poster.
5  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update Season XIV: The new chapter on: April 17, 2014, 07:23:18 pm
This may be a good opportunity to go back and finish up what Russ wanted you to finish up and improve your standing with them.  You could also do that other CAD program.  You have the time while you're looking.

As far as the Civil CAD. It is tempting, but there are two problems.  1) The program takes 8-9 weeks, but as of next Monday, there are only 6 1/2 weeks left in the semester and 2) Mom doesn't have $700 to spend on that.  I need that $700 for bills.

You don't see anything wrong with that comment?

I see what you're getting at.  I meant by that comment that Mom gives me the money to distribute to the debtors.  I never meant to take credit away from her.

I think he was more getting at the fact that your parents now only have $700 to spend on you.  You seem to have depleted their savings if they can't afford more than $700.
6  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Petition to unban Barfbag on: April 17, 2014, 07:18:57 pm
X Oldiesfreak1854

Why?  He's the sock puppet of someone who's created multiple socks.  Why on earth would you want him back?  And if we were to unban anybody, it'd be Derek, not barfbag.
7  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update Season XIV: The new chapter on: April 17, 2014, 05:28:32 pm
What??? Who deleted them?! I hope someone has saved them! Whoever deleted them needs to be severely punished.

Bushie requested Inks do it.  Presumably... HE had come.

No, Bushie deleted his own threads.
8  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Bloomberg plans a $50 million challenge to the NRA on: April 17, 2014, 12:19:03 am
"All other gun crimes... are perpetrated by people who would not be stopped by universal background checks."

Care to give some type of citation for that sweeping statement?  All other gun crimes?  So you're telling me that you honestly think that background checks wouldn't stop one domestic violence gun crime or heat-of-the-moment gun crime?  I'd love to hear your rationale there.

It's in one of those long-winded 200 page FBI crime reports. I think it was something like 5% of all guns violence was perpetrated by firearms acquired at gun shows or online. How many of those people couldn't have bought legally was not listed. It's small potatoes regardless.

If you want to stop heat-of-the-moment crimes you need waiting periods, but that's a completely different discussion.

I'm not talking about going out and buying a gun in the heat-of-the-moment (that's not really heat-of-the-moment most of the time).  I'm talking about someone (often domestic violence offenders) who have a gun accessible and use it.

And I'm not just talking about gun shows and online.  Let's enforce background checks on all private sales of guns.  Frankly, I don't think it matters if it's 5% or 50%.  You're pulling numbers out of thin air without any sources here.
9  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Federal judge strikes down harshest abortion ban in the nation on: April 17, 2014, 12:12:22 am
Not surprising.  It's pretty clear that the court would've had to have challenged the validity of Roe v. Wade and Planned Parenthood v. Casey had it wanted to uphold the law.
10  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: How can I get cash? on: April 17, 2014, 12:06:35 am
...go to the bank?

My bank is a mostly North Dakota one. It has only one branch in the state which is out in Golden Valley.

You clearly need to switch banks.

Or just borrow some cash off a friend or something. How much can you possibly need for "merch"?

Convenience. My mom works at the bank so if I ever have problems (like this fraud) I just text hwr and let her take care of it. I rarely so anything aside maybe sign sone papers I get mailed.

As for merch prices LPs and shirts are usually like $15.

Clearly it's not that convenient, because you're now posting on an Internet forum about how to get cash.  Why not open up more than one bank account?  Also, why can't you take care of your own bank account?  I've had someone attempt to use my card before, and I was able to cancel it on my own and get a new one.  Why is this something you have to have your mom do for you?

Believe me, having family working in the bank where you have an account is very useful.

I realize that, but not useful enough to justify having only one bank account that's in a different state from one's current residence.
11  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Oklahoma Strips Cities of the Right to Pass Higher Wages, Sick Leave on: April 16, 2014, 09:45:34 pm
Let's go through Logic 101.

Federal Minimum Wage sets the floor for wages. If wages are X, then X ≥ 7.25

All minimum wages subject to federal standards (i.e. state or local minimum wages) must meet that standard - it is necessary.

If New York sets its minimum wage to 10, you have

X ≥ 10

If X ≥ 10, then X must be greater than or equal to 7.25 as well. There is no contradiction.

If Oklahoma tries to set its minimum wage to 5, you have

X ≥ 5

This doesn't work because if X were, say, 6, then it would not meet the necessary condition of X being greater than or equal to 7.25

X ≥ 5 ∩ X ≥ 7.25 renders a result of X ≥ 7.25.  I'm not sure what your point is.
12  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Recent bans on: April 16, 2014, 06:08:20 pm
...Giving us even more reason to laugh at anyone who believed Link was Einzige.

No; you have the same amount of reason to laugh, because Meursault already disclosed that he wasn't Link and was Einzige.  Seriously, dude... you've gotta stop spazzing out about this Grumps/Link thing.  You were more amusing when you talked about Sneakers and Ingress all the time.

Let's recap a bit:

-Grumps stated that Link was an Einzige sock in a pretty matter of factly way like it wasn't even open for dispute, not simply speculating or theorizing that he was one.
Actually, he never stated anything.  He said, "Wasn't Link and Einzege sock?"  I never saw a post where Grumps acted like he was sure of his hypothesis.

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-I ask for evidence of this.
-Grumps responds with basically a shrug and attitude of "No I don't have any evidence, you just hav to believe my superior intellect and intuition. Link is Einzige." Of course we're later told there was some super-secret evidence but it wasn't shared with anyone besides yourself, including other mods.
It was a private conversation that had no place being made public.

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-I bring up counter-evidence which Grumps still shrugs off, and once again with no evidence whatsover. I should note part of my outrage is that while I was never too fond of Einzige I don't think he deserved to be labeled a misogynistic creep like Link. That's basically slander.
No, per my rebuttal above.  It's not slander to question if someone is the same person.

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-We get confirmation and Grumps shrugs it off. Essentially the equivalent of if some hack in 2012 predicted Obama would win Kansas and Wyoming. We all know if that happened there would be some mockery, oh and the classic of mypalfish.
What did you want him to do?  Start a poll asking whether he should buy a t-shirt saying, "BRTD was right"?  Come on, dude... once he found out he was wrong, he didn't push the subject.

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As stated before, that's essentially Truther/Birther level reasoning and irrationality. Especially the "Yes there is proof but I can't share it with you." bit, as I have heard basically the same thing from such conspiracy theorists before.
No, because it as based off of a private conversation that shouldn't have been posted publicly per forum rules.
13  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: How can I get cash? on: April 16, 2014, 06:02:58 pm
...go to the bank?

My bank is a mostly North Dakota one. It has only one branch in the state which is out in Golden Valley.

You clearly need to switch banks.

Or just borrow some cash off a friend or something. How much can you possibly need for "merch"?

Convenience. My mom works at the bank so if I ever have problems (like this fraud) I just text hwr and let her take care of it. I rarely so anything aside maybe sign sone papers I get mailed.

As for merch prices LPs and shirts are usually like $15.

Clearly it's not that convenient, because you're now posting on an Internet forum about how to get cash.  Why not open up more than one bank account?  Also, why can't you take care of your own bank account?  I've had someone attempt to use my card before, and I was able to cancel it on my own and get a new one.  Why is this something you have to have your mom do for you?
14  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Let's talk (really) about RosettaStoned on: April 16, 2014, 05:59:45 pm
Since January 1 (I didn't look any earlier), there have only been 2 reported posts of his, excluding signature-related reports (which the mods dealt with) and Game of Thrones.

So, if this guy is so bad (I honestly don't see much of his posts), why aren't any of you who are now calling for his banning reporting them?
15  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: AggregateDemand on: April 16, 2014, 05:52:01 pm
Rightwing bias.

Because I have a blue avatar?  No, kid... I realize you're new here, but if there's one thing I'm not, it's a mod who makes moderator decisions based on what color avatar the subject is.

My suggestion is for you to cool down, delete this thread, and put the guy on ignore.  You're not going to get anywhere by calling this guy names, and nothing that he said is banworthy.
I'm not insinuating that he should be banned; I'm just pointing out what he does to others on the forum on a regular basis.

And by the way, Mister Moderator Sir, I can't delete my own topics on this thread.

That's what the report button is for. Report the post; don't just come here complaining. Regarding thread deletion, I didn't realize this was one of those boards, so disregard that.
16  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Are you able to boil pasta? on: April 16, 2014, 05:24:30 pm
At my age I need assistance for most things, so yes.

If your water is still boiling after 4 hours, you know you need to see a doctor, right Gramps? Tongue
17  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Keep on digging, Louisiana. Keep on digging. on: April 16, 2014, 05:18:38 pm

Well, I mean, the Court could overturn Lawrence v. Texas, right, at which point, it's very important that states have laws like these on the books!

But seriously, this stuff is settled law.  It's amazing that cops are actually enforcing this stuff.  Get the dumb laws off the books and worry about things that actually matter.  This should've been able to pass with a voice vote; what a shame.
18  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Bloomberg plans a $50 million challenge to the NRA on: April 16, 2014, 04:11:26 pm
Just because these background checks wouldn't have stopped Sandy Hook or Aurora doesn't mean they shouldn't be done.  Why are you focusing solely on mass shooting events?

An overwhelming majority of gun violence statistics are generated by suicide (unstoppable) and gang violence or organized narcotics violence. Those problems exist in their own microcosm, and we have special task forces to deal with organized crime. Law enforcement would be happy to explain the futility of piling regulations on the rest of society.

All other gun crimes, including mass shootings, are perpetrated by people who would not be stopped by universal background checks. Mass shootings, in particular, show the failure of DC to enforce the laws that have been on the books for over 40 years, and mass shootings affect a wide variety of US demographics.

Universal backgrounds checks are proposed to right some sort of wrong, but they have no effect. It's like passing a city ordinance to make the owner of a condemned house mow his lawn. Okay, now he must mow his lawn like everyone else. Problem solved? Town beautified?

"All other gun crimes... are perpetrated by people who would not be stopped by universal background checks."

Care to give some type of citation for that sweeping statement?  All other gun crimes?  So you're telling me that you honestly think that background checks wouldn't stop one domestic violence gun crime or heat-of-the-moment gun crime?  I'd love to hear your rationale there.
19  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Aggregate Demand on: April 16, 2014, 01:34:46 am
Ah, got it.  I'll keep that in mind if anybody ever actually stabs me.  "It's okay Officer, he obviously wasn't trying to kill me!"

Joe, if you are so confident that he actually threatened to kill you, why didn't you say that back when it happened?
20  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Aggregate Demand on: April 16, 2014, 01:22:46 am
Oh that's right, I remember now that he "wasn't sure" if he'd actually stab me or not.  Roll Eyes

To my knowledge, none of the mods, including you, ever claimed that he threatened to kill you.  The words used were "stab" and "assault".
21  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Aggregate Demand on: April 16, 2014, 01:07:48 am
Yeah, don't care for him.
Off topic, but did Teddy actually threaten to kill somebody?? Yikes!!!

Terribly off topic, and no, he did not.

Uh, yes he did.

He threatened to assault you, not kill you.  He certainly deserved a ban, but let's keep things accurate.
22  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: What is your alignment? on: April 16, 2014, 12:17:36 am
Also, Inks, how the you are you not Lawful Evil?  Tongue

Honestly, the test was a bit hard for me, because a fair number of the situations were situations I would never be in, or the options were those which I wouldn't have normally taken, so I gave my best guess of how I thought I might react.
23  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Bloomberg plans a $50 million challenge to the NRA on: April 16, 2014, 12:10:35 am
Nobody is arguing that it will stop all killings.  I fail to see why our goal should simply be to stop mass killings.  There is no harm, in my view, in enacting a universal background check requirement.

I don't understand the obsession with implementing feel-good policy that has virtually no chance of success.

It's not just about reducing violence; it's about enforcing the laws on the books, and background checks would be a mechanism to help ensure enforcement.

We already know that background checks are working to keep guns out of the hands of people who legally can't purchase them.  See the statistics from Colorado.  Is there any way to prove that any of those denials led to the stoppage of a future crime?  No, but that's impossible to prove.  If we can keep guns out of the hands of some (not all) people who have shown they have a propensity to commit violent acts, and we can ensure enforcement of the laws on the books, why shouldn't we do it?

Or look at the numbers from the federal gun background checks.  Just because these background checks wouldn't have stopped Sandy Hook or Aurora doesn't mean they shouldn't be done.  Why are you focusing solely on mass shooting events?
24  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Recent bans on: April 15, 2014, 11:53:06 pm
We're unbanning Einzige?

W.

T.

F.

Clearly there has been a palace coup amongst the moderation.

There was actually stronger support to unban him than there was to unban you.

How delightful. Was he not also banned for repeat sockpuppetry?

That was not the reason for his initial ban.  I just think the forum (especially you, considering your past) should not be too quick to pass judgment.  He was able to convince a large majority of the participating mods that he has changed, and he was able to convince Nym.  Give him a chance.
25  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update Season XIV: The new chapter on: April 15, 2014, 11:50:37 pm
Aren't you the one that's had "three heart attacks"?

Three that I thought may have been silent heart attacks, but none were officially diagnosed or even seen by a doctor.  I'm going to go on the assumption that I have not had a heart attack.

Yes, we know that you played them up for dramatic effect here (no big surprise there), but Jeff, your health is clearly in a severely poor state.  You are literally killing yourself through your bad habits.
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