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1  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Is it better to have an exciting or an uninspiring personality in life? on: Today at 07:05:50 am
Why do I get the nagging feeling this poll is being asked by someone insecure about being the second option?

I have good news for you! Your personality is not entirely some hard wired thing you're stuck with. If you don't like something about your personality either learn to accept it or decide you are going to change it. I'm not saying you should be EXCITING dynamic outgoing optimistic if you prefer not to be. But change what you don't like. I believe in you! You!
2  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: How long after a President leaves office does it take for his policies to take? on: April 23, 2014, 04:26:02 am
People here are totally that pedantic - your Emancipation Proclamation example is a poor one as it didn't really do anything at the time - it was a big eye-roll for people back then. When they heard about it from the town crier most people made jack off motions with their left hand.

Don't take offense, now, I enjoy reading your thoughts and contributions. But we have to be specific - a law takes effect when it is actively enforced. And that varies a lot. It seems you're pointing more in the direction of economic policies or how unrelated policies change the economy over time. An excellent question - I think that larger trends take about five years to come to fruition. I have no basis for that, and of course government policy doesn't influence everything. But five years feels right.
3  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Opinion of this photo (Warning: Not for the faint of heart) on: April 22, 2014, 07:02:46 am
I'm not really bothered by it. I am more curious about any side effects that it might lead to. Does food fall out? Can he still play the bassoon? If he changes the shape of the hole, can he like whistle or make fart noises?
4  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Do You have Trypophobia? on: April 22, 2014, 06:49:17 am
That was mildly disconcerting for a moment. If they hadn't have put the idea into my head that I would find it unsettling I doubt I would have cared.
5  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Man who peed on Alamo outrageously given only 18 months in jail on: April 20, 2014, 06:02:17 am
He was white, too.

His parents must've been really, really poor.

Am I a terrible person for laughing really hard at this?
6  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Cold turkey on: April 19, 2014, 08:19:55 am
Has anybody tried eCigs?

I'm not a smoker but curious about them.

When they first came out and no one knew about them it was fun to troll restaurants and businesses by using them indoors. Otherwise, useless IMO.

I managed to ditch cigarettes for about six months by using them, but ultimately fell off the bandwagon. There was no real excuse for why I did that. Sad

I did the same. Electronic cigarettes inspired my first longer term quit attempt. I was so excited when I bought my first kit that I smoked the remainder of my "analog" cigarettes just so I could move on to electronic cigarettes.

At first, the uncomfortable wave of lacking a "real" cigarette was easily bypassed by using the electronic one. I was confident and happy, although I cannot deny it was a psychological adjustment.

And then the Victorian government cracked down on e-cigs. Before smoke shops and small market stalls were selling genuine nicotine-containing cartridges that had enough nicotine that I was able to survive cheaply using e-cigs and completely avoid cigarettes. After they cracked down I had a lot of anxiety finding cartridges that had nicotine. Sometimes they would be marked as containing the drug but then, the more I had to search, the taste and performance of the cheap plastic cartridges would disappoint in every possible way. All that the government cracking down on them did was put me in a desperate state I wasn't prepared for that normal cigarettes were the only way out of. I could have quit normally, yes - but I should not have had to at that point. I was already healthier. I could have done it in time. The failure is all mine but the motivation and opportunity for that failure could have been avoided easily.

The lack of a reliable alternative in e-cigs led me to try smoking normally again. From there it was a gentle but predictable slide into the habits that made me try e-cigs in the first place.

The last time I went stateside I bought some newer packages that didn't exist here and I was very much impressed by them. But, well, since I had already failed and gone back to normal cigarettes, they never quite cut the mustard. And it wasn't until now that I tried nothing at all.

Anyway, if you're an American and have the means, e-cigs are fun and interesting and not as dangerous as normal cigarettes.. Just don't ever go from electronic cigs to anything else. Real tobacco is a pain in the ass.

As for my quit attempt: I've nearly completed two days. Day two has been easier than day one even though the frequency of intense cravings is supposedly higher. If I can power through tomorrow then the supposed worst is over and gradually normalcy will occur. The smells I've been missing out on have completely blindsided me. I remember my sense of smell being much stronger after my last quit attempt but this time, for whatever reason, the intricate odours that I was missing in everyday air before have completely floored me. Clean air is amazing.
7  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Do women have lower incomes (on average) because of discrimination? on: April 18, 2014, 09:41:46 pm
Yeah, Antonio. You should care less about this, mate. Can't you?
8  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Cold turkey on: April 18, 2014, 07:13:59 am
Thanks Gramps Smiley I know about the perils of alcohol when it comes to quitting - most of my serious setbacks happened after drinking.

..But, uh, nevertheless I've had a few glasses of wine tonight. My partner quit as well so there are literally no cigarettes around to smoke anyway so I feel safe enough. And tired.

As for changing my routine, I'm getting there. One important step I'd read of was to confront your triggers head-on in an effort to defuse their association with nicotine. I'm trying to do what I normally would sans nicotine.. more or less. In a short time the links are severed.

But that's long term. For now, sweat it out I shall Smiley
9  Forum Community / Forum Community / Cold turkey on: April 18, 2014, 06:28:17 am
This is my third attempt to quit smoking. I very much plan on it being my final attempt. So far I've gone 21 hours.

For those of you who don't know, peak withdrawal symptoms typically appear during the third day. Nicotine takes up to 72 hours to completely be eliminated from your system.

Thusfar, I'm not terribly impressed. Sure, I've been agitated and I've wanted a cigarette, but I'm keeping myself in check. The hardest part so far has been keeping myself occupied.

Anyone have any experience with this personally or through family or friends? Advice on stuff to do until peak withdrawal has passed is appreciated. Even ridiculous things. I will do them. Maybe.
10  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Torie's zoning variance hearing on: April 17, 2014, 07:43:39 am
Gibson said the board needed to determine if the application was complete. Member Geetie Cheddie said it was “one of the most complete applications we’ve received,” and the members unanimously declared it complete.

We all know Geetie Cheddie is in your pocket, Torie. Nicely done. On second thought, I'm not even sure "Geetie Cheddie" is a real name a real person would choose to continue having. It sounds like the name of some kind of sharp, crumbly cheddar in a foreign language. More of the geetie cheddie, monsieur? Surely this is an imposter you've planted to convince everyone else to grant you what you want. I suppose if you know the law and have the connections, the world is yours for the taking! ..Not that I think what you're doing is that bad, at all. Best of luck Wink
11  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Lawn poll on: April 17, 2014, 04:46:14 am
I haven't mowed my own lawn in months. Cursed green tendrils clawing at the sky.. I am slowly planting things so that there's no longer any grass. I've only got a small bangalow palm so far, and an Australian native something or other in the far corner. Eventually it still be a multi-textural wonderland of plants and flowers. For now, we've got a guy who mows it. Too infrequently for my tastes, but the old school push mower I got went to sh**t real quick, and busting out the whipper snipper and sending grass flying everywhere is silly.
12  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Bacon King Institute of Comedy on: April 17, 2014, 01:23:34 am

Read the posts from our friend.


Comment by artiewhitefox, wtf

This guy has either been taken over by some bizarre bot that combines random thoughts with bible verses or he's completely lost the plot (more, somehow).

13  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Aggregate Demand on: April 16, 2014, 03:55:35 am
For anyone like me who skipped straight to this page, they're not talking about Aggregate Demand.
14  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: How many kids do you want? on: April 16, 2014, 03:32:21 am
I don't have any and fully intend to keep it that way.
15  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Favourite latest post by previous poster on: April 16, 2014, 03:24:19 am
Gary Johnson Campaign Schedule:

Dec. 7th:
Rally/Fundraiser in Nashua, NH
Barnstorm and Rally in Manchester, NH
Barnstorm and Town Hall in Portsmouth, NH

Dec. 8th:
Barnstorming and GOTV in Dover, NH
Barnstorming and Town Hall in Somersworth, NH
Rally and Barnstorming in Rochester, NH

Dec. 9th:
Meet and Greet in Berlin, NH
Rally in Lebanon, NH
Barnstorming and Town Hall in Claremont, NH

Dec. 10th:
Rally and Speech in Concord, NH
Barnstorming and Rally in Franklin, NH
Barnstorming and Town Hall in Laconia, NH

Dec. 11th:
Rally and Fundraiser in Davenport, IA
Town Hall in Iowa City, IA
Rally and Campaign Speech in Cedar Rapids, IA

Dec. 12th:
Town Hall in Dubuque, IA
Rally and Barnstorm in Waterloo, IA
Rally and Campaign Speech in Ames, IA

Dec. 13th:
Town Hall in Fort Dodge, IA
Rally in Sioux City
Rally/Fundraiser in Council Bluffs, IA


Rep. Ron Paul:

Dec. 7th: Fundraising in New Hampshire
Dec. 8th: Congressional Duties
Dec. 9th: Barnstorming Iowa
Dec. 10th: Fundraising in Iowa
Dec. 12th: Meeting with Congressmen to support Gary Johnson
Dec. 13th: Attend Rallies with Johnson in Iowa

Fmr. Gov. Jesse Ventura:

Dec. 7th-Dec. 9th: Touring Iowa small towns for Johnson
Dec. 10th-Dec. 13th: Fundraising in Iowa

Fmr. Rep. Barry Goldwater Jr:

Dec. 7th-9th: Fundraising in Arizona
Dec. 10th-13th: Rallies for Johnson in Arizona

Fmr. Gov. Buddy Roemer:

Dec. 7th-Dec. 13th: Barnstorming and Rallies in Missouri

Clint Eastwood:

Dec. 7th-Dec. 10th: Fundraisers for Johnson in California
Dec. 11th-Dec. 13th: Rallies for Johnson in Iowa
Gary Johnson is the only guy in this race who has the guts to be president, a real Republican. You other candidates feeling lucky?

Fmr. Rep. Bob Barr:

Dec. 7th-Dec. 13th: Barnstorming and Rallies in South Carolina
Governor Johnson is the true conservative, who stands for economic freedom and is the champion of small business!

Fmr. Gov. William Weld:

Dec. 7th-Dec. 13th: Rallies and Barnstorm New Hampshire
Governor Johnson is the true candidate, one with conviction and experience. He is the right man to be president.

Drew Carey:

Dec. 7th-Dec. 13th: Fundraisers in California
Now, I'm not one for speeches, or the Republican party. But Governor Johnson is the only candidate that stands for true freedom in the United States.

Fmr. Rep. Joe Scarborough:

Dec. 7th-Dec. 13th: Barnstorming and Rallies in South Carolina
Governor Johnson is the only candidate our Republican party needs right now, he is the candidate that will lead the party to national success. Gary Johnson knows how to govern, and is the true future of the party, lets support Gary Johnson!

Economist and Reagan Adviser Paul Craig Roberts:

Dec. 7th-Dec. 9th: Rallies for Johnson in Iowa
Dec. 10th-Dec. 13th: Fundraising in Iowa
As adviser to Ronald Reagan, I was a strong proponent for the fiscal conservatism that led us through the 1980's. Governor Johnson is the only candidate with that drive, vision, leadership and principles to take us back to true fiscal conservatism!

TV and Radio Ad to run in the following states:

A candidate with proven leadership, a candidate that has proven that he is will to stand apart and do right. Not beholding to anyone but the people, ready to take on the real problems America faces. Gary Johnson is not just a Republican candidate for president, but the people's candidate for president. With endorsements from Independents and Republicans alike, he is the candidate that shows conviction, and will be a man of the people.
16  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Do women have lower incomes (on average) because of discrimination? on: April 13, 2014, 02:08:33 am
I thought it was pretty well-established that the answer to the OP question is yes? Huh

Yes. The only people who disagree are Tea Party-types with their heads in the sand and Internet teenagers who've never lived in the real world.

And not that there's anything wrong with being type #2 per se. We've all been there.
Nice job insulting those who disagree with you. Anyway as I have said before, women mke less because they choose less dangerous jobs. How many women do you see studying to be a nuclear engineer?

Oh. Oh dear.

Perhaps we don't see as many females choosing "dangerous jobs" such as nuclear engineer (note to self: is nuclear engineer a dangerous job? Engineers are usually busy behind desks are they not? Maybe it's dangerous because it involves math?) because being in that field inevitably leads them to interacting with insufferably ignorant, sexist behavior perfectly exemplified by your comment. I had a job for six months working in the steel industry. It was bloody hot in the factory due to the furnaces, you were expected to do lots of heavy lifting, and every day you'd walk out covered in soot. As you might expect, there were basically no women there - and during the group interview process where they described the working conditions all of the girls walked out not wanting to even try. I don't blame them - there are only two results when a woman chooses to work in a factory like that. She's either automatically a lesbian and can expect to be treated with disdain or, if not, can expect to be constantly sexually demeaned behind her back. She'd also likely given the less difficult roles and resented by those of us expected to do the heavy lifting. Any advancement she made would have people questioning whether or not she deserved it or if she was doing something shady. But I'm sure none of that had anything to do with it. It was probably just icky and too hard (that is: her fault).

Anyway, that doesn't have much to do with your overall nonsensical point. These equal pay for equal work debates are built on the common understanding that we are talking about men and women doing the same job with the same experience and qualifications who still, nevertheless, get paid less. As jfern noted, this isn't as true when we're talking about women and men fresh out of university who are childless and inexperienced. It can, in fact, be the opposite. Great.

That's the starting point. As life goes on, women face considerably more disruptions than men because we expect them (and, of course, often they happily choose) to take time off from careers to focus on having children or caring for family members. When women return to the workforce, they've lost ground. Are you ready? I'm going to throw a graph at you.

Then there's the fun fact that, strictly because of often unintentional sexism (I hope), women who ask for raises are not given them as often as men (cite). A man who asks for a raise is assertive and strong as men ought to be. Women? Not so much. That's (again, sometimes unintentionally) viewed as uncomely behavior for a lady.

Perhaps what you meant was that women are more likely to work at jobs that aren't professional or managerial and therefore pay less. This is true. Why this is so could be that these lower paying jobs offer women more flexibility with their busy schedules when they have to juggle caring duties at home. Most people, upon learning that, will breathe a sigh of relief. It's their own fault! Phew! I knew it would be okay and we won't have to change anything. But the solution to that problem involves rather frightening things like requiring businesses and government to provide leave for women (and men) when they start to have families. Women shouldn't have to choose between caring for their children and keeping that high-salary, personally fulfilling job. We should be letting them take time off for a while and welcoming them back to the same work and pay as before.

But businesses wouldn't like that sort of inefficiency being introduced. You know what? Tough sh**t. When someone takes an extended leave from their job, someone has to fill in. That work either gets spread around or several people have to be hired to come in a fill in. That's good for the economy. Hurray! I'm glad I've changed your mind.
17  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: NSA exploited 'Heartbleed' to steal passwords for two years on: April 11, 2014, 10:17:27 pm
I'm not sure this is true. I have a couple unnamed sources who agree with me.
18  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Hypothetical for anti-death penalty advocates on: April 11, 2014, 10:13:28 pm
I'd stay steadfast in my opposition. You can still send the message to society that racism is no longer acceptable while using the two defendants as the example by locking them up.

On the other hand, I wouldn't really care about their deaths. It's like that with awful people sometimes.  I'd be more disgusted with the characters and political situation that played parts in the fiasco. That's the thing about being anti-capital punishment; you don't typically feel empathy for the worst offenders who receive it, you care about the families of the prisoner, the possibility of innocence, the permanence of it and the hypocrisy.
19  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Which of these two is more deserving of a ban? on: April 11, 2014, 10:02:31 pm
Mr. Demand is a far more interesting read than krazen, if I had to choose. Ideally neither, of course (likes a diverse, inflammatory Atlas experience).
20  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: are trees budding in your area yet? on: April 11, 2014, 10:00:04 pm
Yes, the leaves are just starting to turn but not nearly as spectacularly as in Ohio. My dahlias are in bloom, and it's rained non-stop for the past five days. Yes, autumn is nigh.
21  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion / 2016 U.S. Presidential Election / Re: Woman throws an object (possibly a shoe) at Hillary Clinton. on: April 11, 2014, 06:26:44 am
Video of event: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16T6UJW5oWY

At least she made a good joke.

Ah, the comments to that video..
22  General Discussion / Religion & Philosophy / Re: Fundamentalist Belief Inventory Quiz on: April 11, 2014, 06:00:12 am
I answered as though I were still a Christian. I believed myself at the time to be a more progressive believer; nevertheless I scored 22 out of 40. I suppose compared to my peers I was a heretic, still - I didn't believe in creationism (although I did for a while when I was younger), thought it was silly that the Bible was the only divinely inspired text or that there weren't contradictions within itself. Still, that coupled with some other dramatic life experiences laid the foundations for my exodus. Maybe my fundie friends were justified in rejecting my views.
23  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Which kitchen would you prefer? on: April 11, 2014, 05:17:12 am
I'm the sort of person who looks askance at people who treat the kitchen as a social space (my family included) and would rather eat in the dining room. I cringe at seeing exceptionally fancy and open kitchens- if I were to design a house the kitchen would be stuffed into some back corner or side wing. I might actually go for the second, then, but the catch is the dining room looks like this:

While I can, on some level, appreciate the fine details and craftsmanship and feel of a space like this, I mostly find it way too busy for the eyes. It's distracting and ..gaudy. Certainly you'd feel like a dapper gentleman sitting there sipping fine wine and nibbling on whatever, but after a few months I'd probably be content to have a beer and kebab on the balcony of a hotel room.
24  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Which kitchen would you prefer? on: April 11, 2014, 04:47:40 am
Option 1, of course. There's nothing "wrong" with number 2 - it's closer to my own kitchen (that I'm used to but don't like particularly because there's not enough storage area or bench space). And there's nothing wrong with liking option 1, either. It's appealing to me aesthetically and I think the judgments about its worse functionality are silly. If you've got that much space, you've got room to change things.

And look, I would feel more comfortable and at ease in a spacious, sleek kitchen. Not because it's fancy or looks expensive - the feel of the area is more open and natural to me. The latter kitchen makes me feel trapped and bogged in. At least put a window somewhere..

Actually, checking out the images again, 1 isn't really ideal either. I'd rather...

25  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Who are the Most Notorious Posters in Atlas Forum History? on: April 08, 2014, 06:36:47 am
Poor Eraserhead, copying and pasting each one of these posters again in a new thread because we can't edit polls. I feel for you. I wonder who will win this poll, though. Keep it open so we can compare to the final thread!

And yeah, dead0, these guys were a lot of hassle - that's why they're notorious and not, say, noteworthy.
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