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1  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Puff Pass Circle Thread... on: April 20, 2015, 03:40:30 am
If the United States were a massive bee hive, you could argue that the President would be the Queen Bee. Then, if Hillary wins, her first several days in office would be spent frantically running around having sex with random working class citizens. She would store all of their sperm in her abdomen and use it to fertilize her eggs on her own, producing all of the children for the entire country.

2  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Anybody else seeing green England avatars all over the place? on: April 20, 2015, 02:54:50 am
Just a minute ago I turned on the tap and green England avatars came flying out everywhere. Nothing a bit of bug spray couldn't fix.
3  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Cold turkey on: April 19, 2015, 05:31:54 am

If I can do it, so can you. Smiley

(sorry about the necromancy, I wanted to attention whore)
4  Questions and Answers / The Atlas / Re: Anybody else seeing green England avatars all over the place? on: April 19, 2015, 02:30:30 am
This morning when I got out of the shower I was savagely attacked by a green England avatar. I scared it away by spraying a can of condensed air. I'm not sure why it works, must be some frequency humans can't hear but green England avatars can, like a dog whistle.
5  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: Oklahoma approves exciting new method of killing inmates on: April 19, 2015, 02:09:18 am
Oklahoma was the first state to adopt lethal injection. So I'm not surprised they're desperate to remain first in something.

It's just that Oklahoma is such an awful place to live that the most novel thing they can do is think of new ways to die.
6  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Germanwings crash: obsequies taking place right now → one controversy ... on: April 19, 2015, 02:03:10 am
Joe's correct, as usual.
7  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Where Do You Rank on the Male Social Hierarchy? on: April 18, 2015, 09:26:28 pm
Who the hell would Gustaf be white knighting for right now?
8  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Can't you touch type? on: April 18, 2015, 09:24:56 pm
Only for a time, though, as the more you program the more using those keys becomes tied to muscle memory.
9  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Where Do You Rank on the Male Social Hierarchy? on: April 18, 2015, 09:19:15 pm
ITT people taking this seriously

Oh Christ oakvale. Of course everyone in this thread knows it's a silly diversion. That doesn't mean we can't overanalyse it and tear it to shreds for an audience of hardly anyone for no good reason except to feel smug. This is Atlas!

And everyone knows if you venture into seedier parts of the internet you can find lots of sad delusional males who take ideas like "alphas" and "betas" seriously to help them understand the world around them and then change their behaviour accordingly.
10  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Update for Everyone III - The Whinge Binge on: April 18, 2015, 09:14:33 pm
I've lost seven kilos (15 pounds) now in two months, and I am happy about that. The last time I did this I didn't measure my progress. I'm glad I decided to track how well I'm doing this time, it's keeping me motivated. I've also come out as seriously questioning my gender to a handful of people (including everyone who reads this I guess) and so far everyone has been, well.. at least not negative. I don't really care, anyway.. assholes will be assholes, at least I'm being honest with myself.

I'm sitting outside trying to enjoy the weather and some horrid person is smoking an e-cigarette. Yes, I can smell it. It doesn't smell like a conventional cigarette but it smells like something - I just can't quite tell what.

Propylene glycol is usually what is used to give the vapour its smokey appearance in electronic cigarettes. It is the same chemical used in fog machines. And, as anyone who has been in a room with a fog machine running can attest, it does have an slight odour. Flavourings and nicotine itself also have smells, although, of course, they are only slight. If someone spilled nicotine liquid, though, you'd smell it. Stuff is stanky.
11  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of Mr. Morden on: April 18, 2015, 07:13:55 pm
Mr. Morden is a forum staple. He's like.. Atlas's self raising flour.
12  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Should Dzhokhar Tsarnaev be put to death for the Boston Massacre? on: April 18, 2015, 07:12:02 pm
Warning: I intended this to be a short response but quickly began rambling on and on.

Life in Prison (Parole)

I am beginning to think both capital punishment and life without parole are immoral.

Yeah exactly, life without parole is certainly "immoral" ... Roll Eyes

Immoral was probably a poor word choice. I don't have any authority to declare anything about morality. I will say that putting someone in prison without even the possibility of ever getting out doesn't seem to do anything positive.

Without the possibility of parole prisoners are more likely to commit more crimes in prison, having little left to lose.

The possibility of parole may help prevent crime within prison. If their behaviour continues to be negative, obviously they wouldn't be granted parole. But just because their behaviour may be positive, that doesn't mean they would necessarily ever be granted parole. This is important to keep in mind. And the public can rest easy knowing that truly horrible people will likely never be granted parole anyway. In the case of Breivik, I don't think he would ever be granted parole.

I also think it is wise to have another layer of oversight to correct for the overzealous actions of judges who may be campaigning to appear tough on crime (ugh) and juries that dish out ridiculous sentences.

Finally, keep in mind that I love shoes. I like to try on the shoes of the prisoner - I would certainly want to have the possibility of parole available. After all, what if I'm innocent? I need that hope that my life isn't over. The shoes of victims are also worth trying on. If I was killed by a terrorist, serial killer, or someone else, what punishment do I feel evens out the loss of the rest of my life? These shoes are closely related to those of the victim's family, friends, and community. What punishment would make me feel okay about the loss?

Where I arrive after I try on these shoes eventually leads me to believe that it doesn't matter what these people feel, because whatever punishment you choose will never truly satisfy. You cannot quantify someone's life into a number of years in prison. Putting someone else to death or taking away the rest of their life does not undo or equate to the original crime. Unfortunately the only way to make the friends, family, and community feel okay is time and grieving. It feels like it would satisfy them to take away the perpetrator's life, but it inevitably doesn't. No one wins.

What I'm left with is rather cold. It's just the question of what society ought to do with someone who has broken a rule. I think that this is a fairer way to look at things. It's informed by the realities of what happens in prisons. The goal now isn't necessarily rehabilitation as much as simply finding a calculated punishment that fits a crime, with systems in place to correct for any imbalances (such as parole, which also might serve to prevent more crime).

80% of people on the planet have a worse life than a murderer in prison in a Western country.

Uh, I don't quite get what your point is here. Shall we make prisoner's lives worse so that we feel better about poor people in developing countries? Wouldn't this make more sense as an argument for raising the amount foreign aid we offer? Or perhaps you think we should ship prisoners overseas to dry dusty islands on the ass end of the globe... Wink

Breivik even wants to play the latest X-box games ... (at least, they didn't allow him - but his prison is basically a 1st class hotel).

You need to understand something about why things like this happen: distracted inmates mean fewer behavioural problems. Bored prisoners make their own entertainment, and when you mix together a toxic brew of personalities, a lot of that entertainment comes at the expense of other people.

I'm sure lots of people wake up every day exhilerated by the unfathomable potential that the freedom to play the latest video games offers.. when they're 14. Prisoners still are stuck in the same building, with the same people, bland food, strict schedule, lack of privacy and agency, and little contact with their loved ones.

I'm not saying you should feel sorry for them and so give them toys to play with. I'm saying that video games mean nothing substantial and make the lives of the prison staff easier.
13  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Where Do You Rank on the Male Social Hierarchy? on: April 18, 2015, 08:19:54 am
What's sad though is that real people fall for this kind of BS and damage their lives over it.

It's sad but inevitable. They will latch onto whatever bullsh**t seems to describe their disappointing life experience while offering a satisfactory explanation and solution. If it's not this, it's something else. It's much easier to compartmentalize everything than it is to face an organic, faceless system that doesn't grant you any value on the basis of your existence.

14  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The AD Madlibs Game: Week 1 on: April 18, 2015, 12:47:52 am
I'm actively getting my friend to update the vocabulary and he's aware of this thread, so if you have any suggestions for him feel free to say.
15  General Politics / Political Debate / Re: Should Dzhokhar Tsarnaev be put to death for the Boston Massacre? on: April 17, 2015, 08:47:58 pm
Life in Prison (Parole)

I am beginning to think both capital punishment and life without parole are immoral.
16  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Opinion of eCigs (vaping) on: April 17, 2015, 01:24:32 pm
I personally cannot stand them, though, because ... I am forced to walk into and unavoidable cloud of vapor.

You must turn into the Hulk on a foggy morning.
17  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Re: Can't you touch type? on: April 17, 2015, 01:19:01 pm
angus, you are the best Smiley

Mostly. I don't understand how some people have reflexive memory of every single letter/symbol.

I only do because many uncommon symbols are used when programming.
18  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The AD Madlibs Game: Week 1 on: April 17, 2015, 10:49:53 am
The guy who wrote it is a long-time friend of mine who based it off of a script I wrote ages ago with much larger word banks. I'll see if I can cajole him into expanding the vocabulary.
19  General Politics / U.S. General Discussion / Re: US uninsured rate continues to plummet, youth signing up most on: April 17, 2015, 10:48:11 am
The above is quite a mouthful, and you lost me with the loss of dependents thing, but moving right along, do you believe any form of taxation, the proceeds of which are used for redistributive purposes, is immoral?

Why would you retreat to an obscure political talking point?

The middle class just got hammered with a 1% of AGI or $95 per month (whichever is higher) surtax for non-coverage. Rather than pay the tax, they removed dependents from their tax return. Those dependency exemptions were granted according to the ability to pay concept. Other taxpayers, who aren't covered by their employers, thus, don't receive the same tax benefits for healthcare, were forced to eat the higher tax bill.

Meanwhile the upper middle and upper classes are left to their own devices because they receive tax-free healthcare compensation from their employers.

Wealth is being distributed from the middle fifth to the bottom fifth. Does that seem like an effective method of spreading the wealth around? Only the brain-dead American electorate could cheerlead something so patently stupid. Only clueless Americans could allow elected officials to plea federal poverty, when we have more than enough money to solve the problem, if only we'll stop binge spending of counter-productive programs that make us less filthy-rich.

Obamacare is surely one of the greatest failures in our history. We could buy healthcare for everyone, but we don't. We could easily empower everyone to buy their own healthcare, but we don't. Instead, we vote for civic malfeasance and moral debauchery on an increasingly grand scale. 

Well you have a point about employee based plans, and the system should certainly be more means tested, but I think you missed the moral hazard aspect - that those who are not insured, when they have a real need, burden the system typically as freeloaders, at taxpayer and the expense of those who have insurance, because some of the premiums are then diverted to offset some of the free loader expense that the care giver organizations are saddled with. What is conservative or moral about that, in anyone's universe?

Just because someone does something amoral doesn't mean a non-judgmental response by society is amoral. That is to say, two wrongs don't make a right. If someone can afford health insurance but doesn't purchase it, then falls ill and we all have to pay for it, well, the moral principle of helping someone survive is more important than their irresponsible, immoral behaviour. I suppose this idea completely boils down to ideology, but, you know..
20  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The AD Madlibs Game: Week 1 on: April 17, 2015, 09:55:13 am
Now is as good a time as any to link to: http://www.matthewkloster.com/rsg/

Now that <j> season has concluded, and I have more time to reflect on the <n> generated by my <n>, the <j> rate can only be construed as the silver lining in a dark cloud.

This "achievement" has been <v-ed> by taking the <j> class to the <n> and by threatening them with further <j> drubbing, if they refuse to comply. The <j> mandate is a diabolical new form of <j> <n> and <j> <n>. People have lost the <j> benefit of their dependents, which is a clear violation of ability to <v>, but no one seems bothered with the rights of <n-s>.

Proponents <v-ed> by claiming that, for every bad, <j> person who is horsewhipped by the <n>, a good person enjoys a better quality of <n> with subsidized <n>. Compliance by everyone makes the <n> a better place.

In reality, this is a blatant disregards for the <j> rights of American citizens, and the malevolence of this administration is compounded by its decision not to "spread the <n> around", but to hammer down dissent with onerous <n>.
21  Forum Community / Off-topic Board / Can't you touch type? on: April 17, 2015, 09:33:12 am
An explanation for (normal) people:

"Completely" means you don't have to look to accurately located nearly everything: All text (including numbers and symbols), navigation keys (Tab, Home, End, Page Up, etc), and function keys (F1-F12).

"Mostly" means you don't have to look to accurately locate all letters and numbers, but you have trouble with navigation keys, function keys, or some symbols. You still use most of your fingers and don't need to dart your eyes back from the screen to your keyboard.

"Sometimes" means you don't have to look to accurately locate most letters and numbers, but have to dart your eyes juuuuust to make sure. Sometimes you resort to index fingers. You have to double check with your eyes often.

"Hardly" means you are proficient at looking at the keyboard and puh-cheowing your index fingers onto where you find the button you desire. Numbers, symbols, and everything else requires extra focus.

"ALAS" means you are could reply to this thread, given enough time, but you prefer to just use the mouse and avoid that other monstrosity, thank you very much.

REMEMBER: The better you are, the worse you are. I voted "Mostly" because I still struggle to find F8 when I need it, which is almost never, and I kinda suck at using the number pad because I'm not an accountant.

EDIT: Given the criteria, I should have voted "Completely," but I didn't check the change your vote option because Friday night and vodka and loneliness.
22  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Inappropriate content on the forum on: April 17, 2015, 09:13:55 am
By the way, I like thinking of the topic title literally. Can't we turn this thread's content into that which is inappropriate on the forum?
23  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Inappropriate content on the forum on: April 17, 2015, 09:10:21 am
I still think that most of these parts of the Atlas should only be visible after logging in (and, say, after having made a certain number of posts).

You mean strangers can't see the naughty bit, Tik?  What fun is that?

I don't need to feel satisfied by having strangers watch, personally. But I don't judge!
24  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: The Queens of the Soup Kingdom on: April 17, 2015, 08:54:27 am
The only soup I bother with anymore is pumpkin soup. Which.. usually contains coconut milk and/or sour cream so, I'll go with the beer cheese because that sounds absolutely delicious and I want to try it where's a recipe?
25  Forum Community / Forum Community / Re: Opinion of threesomes on: April 17, 2015, 08:51:01 am
Whatever he's doing, it's at least good to know that Our Lord and Saviour can touch type.
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